So..? Over 300k total standing in a couple weeks of very casual play isn't "slow grind" to me. I should be able to get to rank 4 with one faction in 2-3 months, which suits me fine as my main target for playing is having fun, not being rank 4 with all factions. Guess I just have a tad more patience...
Thats not what makes it a grind. Its the lack of content to get that standing. To get rank 2 you have to run the same quests over and over, or the same dungeons over and over. Or kill enemy faction, over and over. Are you really having fun killing ten rats a thousand times to get enough tokens?
Yes that different from farming ICC for last 3 months ..
Anyway based on funcon Financial reports one of posters in another forum broke it down to 70-100k subscribers for AoC in Q1 2010 and that number increased to 200-250k post expansion.
I dont know what ICC is. I quit for the last 3 months till Godslayer came out, because I didnt want to run BRC over and over.
So..? Over 300k total standing in a couple weeks of very casual play isn't "slow grind" to me. I should be able to get to rank 4 with one faction in 2-3 months, which suits me fine as my main target for playing is having fun, not being rank 4 with all factions. Guess I just have a tad more patience...
Thats not what makes it a grind. Its the lack of content to get that standing. To get rank 2 you have to run the same quests over and over, or the same dungeons over and over. Or kill enemy faction, over and over. Are you really having fun killing ten rats a thousand times to get enough tokens?
I don't do repeatables and the only grinding I've done was about 30 minutes which gave a a couple dozen tokens and about 10k standing (bumped me from 45 to 55k). The rest comes from running dungeons and non-repeatable quests. I am a big fan of grouping and I usually spend my time grouped up and figuring out dungeons.
Which is unrealistic given that 80% of the game is designed to be run solo. I dont see why you have to keep defending bad game design. The proof is in the pudding. AOC overall is not fun, and people quitting is proof. Once I get a get through the new content, I will quit as well and go back to a sandbox game.
End game is very limited solo wise, leveling can be done solo though. If you miss out on all the group content the expansion offers, of course you will be grinding your ass off. That's not bad game design, it's a personal choice. Seeing as "fun" is subjective, claiming that a game is more or less "fun" than another game as a rule is just plain silly. If you are a die hard sandbox fan, of course you will not enjoy a themepark and find it limiting, and thus your points are moot.
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I dont know what ICC is. I quit for the last 3 months till Godslayer came out, because I didnt want to run BRC over and over.
End game is very limited solo wise, leveling can be done solo though. If you miss out on all the group content the expansion offers, of course you will be grinding your ass off. That's not bad game design, it's a personal choice. Seeing as "fun" is subjective, claiming that a game is more or less "fun" than another game as a rule is just plain silly. If you are a die hard sandbox fan, of course you will not enjoy a themepark and find it limiting, and thus your points are moot.
I like grinding. Was rather disappointed with how easy leveling was in AOC. Bring on the grind baby!