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Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cpt_Picard
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I just went to lotro.com and almost puked.... Some one please tell me this is a joke. My weekend has just been ruined.
Make it so...
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April 1st is -----------------> that way.
This seems to be true, and I am thankful for it. Soon you will see me loitering around with a lute in hand, and hoping not paying a dime to do so.
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So will at least 30,000 other chucklefucks playing elves named "Rikky Martian" smashing the "1" button FURIOUSLY while teabagging a hobbit in just about every starter area. Hope you enjoyed the community while it lasted guys!
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Of course.. because we all know it requires a $15 a month subscription to form the basis of any good community, because every P2P game has such amazing communities and no F2P does....
What community? Sure it was mature but Please.. this is a good thing. It was hard to find a decent kinship or even fellowship... and it's just not bringing/keeping the players it needs. Plus LotRO is a bit more complex than WoW (at least in my mind) so a lot of the childish players with ADD probably wont stick around that long.
Yeah, I was actually considering resubbing to LoTRO the last couple days, I haven't checked it out since just before Moria, but I'm definitely not going to resub now. I guess I'll check it out when it goes f2p, but I just can't see how this means good things for LoTRO. I mean, DDO I can understand b/c it was doing really poorly, but I was under the impression that LoTRO was still pulling at least somewhat decent numbers.
I get that it has done amazing things for DDO, but DDO was shit and would've died completely had it not gone f2p. Was LoTRO that close to death as well? I guess we can assume that Turbine is expecting to do much better buisness converting LoTRO to f2p, but I don't see it. DDO, while interesting, never seemed to have been designed to the same level of quality that LoTRO was. DDO was all instanced, there just wasn't much of a world, it really was very much like the tabletop game in MMO form. I can totally see how a game w/ that structure can do very well f2p, I mean they can sell "modules", and tools for dungeon running, and all kinds of neat stuff. But what exactly is going to drive people to spend money on LoTRO? Unless they try to break it down like that, and it does sound like that's what they plan on doing I guess, w/ the whole "quest packs" and such.
I don't know, I won't write it off yet, I'm willing to see how they manage it and what all this will actually mean for the game, but I'm not holding my breath for this to be a positive for LoTRO.
"Nooooooooooooooo!" was my first reaction too when I found out about the change, it's not just a weekend that they've ruined...
My favorite thing about lotro was it's mature community. It was my on off game for wow... I guess I'll have to learn to play eve or something.
Make it so...
I doubt they do either. How ever, I still feel pained.
Anyways, is it true that eve has a 20 day free trial? I can only find the 14 day one.
Make it so...
No its not. Not even the slightest. If anything its combat system is less complex and more mundane. On top of that, childish players aren't weeded out unless you start reaching Eve complexity..
I don't really see what the problem is. From what I understand, current subscribers will be relatively unaffected.
F2P players are the absolute bottom rung scum of the MMO pond. They consist of kids who are too young to have a job or own a credit card, grown-ups who are too cheap or lazy(ie unemployed) to spend a whole $15 dollars a month on a quality game, players who will spend hundreds of dollars a month for in-game superiority, and a variety of players who can't commit to a game for more than a week... the rest end up being macroers/gold-sellers/hackers/exploiters or players that join just to piss people off in chat channels. Ultimately, they end up degrading the integrity of the game.
I'm not saying they are all bad, but the vast majority of them are. And you'll definitely see the average maturity level of the Lotro community drop down severely.
The one thing I could always say about LOTRO was that it had an absolutely outstanding community. That won't be the case much longer.
21-day trial if you get referred by an active player, there's a thread for this here http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/thread/275094/page/1
I find amazing some people care that the companies don't care about us voicing our opinions, don't you think if we wanted to express it to the developers it would be on the LOTRO official forums? Like the folks voicing their opinion here http://forums.lotro.com/forumdisplay.php?f=459
Anyway, what they want are online concurrent users, total revenue and registered users count, that's what the people high above want from a MMO to see it's doing good, it's a pretty good way to "rig" it, by not charging entry costs, monthly fees and giving the player an option to spend way more than $15/mo based on item desires.
Its entertaining how ignorant every one of those statements is. I play F2P games as well, ive got a better job than most people i know, i pay my own bills and take care of myself, and on top of that spend well beyond $15 a month in a game I feel is worth my money. Granted I do hop around on different games quite a bit, but thats generally just to see what else is out there, while also playing certain games consistently both P2P and F2P (some ive played for several months, some for over a year), including LOTRO, and i also hop around on alts within those games a lot too to try different things. I dont macro, gold sell, or hack/exploit in anyway wether its F2P or P2P.
Now im just 1 person, but ive also been friends/guildies with a rather large number of people across several games who are all in a pretty similar position to me, and about 75% of the people ive ever been in guilds with are in the 20-30 age bracket with a few older and a few younger. I also communicate alot with other guilds in some of those games and its generally the same for them too. To assume that the majority of F2P players are kids, lazy, cheaters, etc is just ridiculous. It may be true for certain games (such as korean grinders, and animated games such as Maple Story and its cousins), but the genre as a whole is not that way. How would you even know if you don't play them? People constantly claim they know exactly what the F2P community is like, but then claim they hate F2P and stay away from them. You may have had past experiences like that, but that doesnt mean it remains that way.
Seriously, look at what the MMO community used to consist of, and the stereotypes against the people who played MMOs 5-10 years ago compared to how many people play them now. People who assume MMORPG players are still nothing but nerds who live for RPGs are just as wrong as your dated assumptions that the F2P community is still what it used to be. Its like i pointed out to someone before, making assumptions like this based on what type of payment model they play is about as ignorant as being a racist bigot.
"well this black guy stole from me, so im going to assume you will all do it" VS "well someone in this F2P was an immature asshat/lazy/cheater, so im going to assume you all are"
I dunno. In my experience, the community of every free to play game I've tried was at least better than WoW, and the communities of games like Runes of Magic, Allods Online, Mabinogi, and DDO were actually fairly mature.
So you admit that you fit into the game hopping crowd, and you'll also spend excessive amounts of money on a game "if you feel its worth it." Thus you're one of the people I mentioned. What was your point again?
WoW and Aion are cesspools community wise. An unfortunate consequence of being popular with the younger crowds.
Relax man, just read the FAQ and the interview. F2P is a big word, they call it that way to get a lot of attention. But it's is actually just a bigger free trial version. Nothing changes for the people who have a sub.
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Look at the bright side, your saving $15 bucks a month now.
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People are so scared of change, it amuses me everytime i see it.
I am glad I played Lotro while it was a truely great MMO. Nothing lasts forever.
I doubt I will be there when the noobs invade, but my memories of when it was a fine MMO will always be a treasure.
Gotta love the ignoring of the rest of what i said about also consistently playing other games. Perhaps you only have time to invest in 1 game at a time, i dont, i generally play at least 2-3 games (unless 1 manages to be good enough to draw me in a smy only game for several months) at a time fairly actively because im able to also play from work :-) As far as game hopping goes... should I insist on sticking with a game no matter how bad it is simply to avoid being a "game hopper"? If im not enjoying a game, and i see something else that looks mor einteresting to me, yeah i gof or the new game rather than not enjoying myself.
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what pisses me off is that about a month ago I picked up the game with all expansions.
I kinda want a refund at this point....it reminds me HEAVILY of the whole "Trials Of Obi-Wan" thing that SOE pulled with SWG.
They must have KNOWN that they were going F2P shortly. So I bought something under false premise.
I'm not the kind of too-much-time-on-my-hands person who's going to throw a huge fuss over it, but it was a bit on the under-handed side, and Turbine can join SOE on the "Shit List", as far as I'm concerned.
DDO went f2p and it's more popular now than it ever was. The population shot through the roof. Wait and see how fun monster play will be when the population quadruples over night.
More popular does not mean better. DDO is still crap.
I also believe they have said monster play will not be available to F2P.
F2P works for the companies to squeeze each little penny they can get out of people without having to do anything...
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
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