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EvE Trial Blindfold
Uzleb
Member Posts: 162
Ya Ya, I know it's a trial what do you want.
Well, what i want, is a trial for 14days so I can make an informed decission about subing into a P2P game that turns out to be something other than what the trial advertized. After not even 2 days I started running into restrictions, I could by million dollar ships but i couldn't fly them. I could by skills but couldn't learn them. I mean, after 14 days if I like the game i'll sub in, but why limit my advancment in the game, is it because there are aspects of the game you think will infuence my decission about giving you money.
I guess the point im trying to make is, whatever Eve's logic was to limit my ability for advancement in the game during the trial period, has made my decission easy.
No thanx EvE, drop me an E-mail when your F2P
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Yeah as you can see that game is not for you. Just like it was not for me, and this topic has been murdered to death on the EvE forums.
The trial gives you a good idea how the game plays. They aren't hiding flaws with the restrictions at all. The restrictions are perhaps to avoid people benefiting off creating trial accounts some how. Maybe.
Sent me an email if you want me to mail you some pizza rolls.
Most of the things they limit stop a lot of RMT.
There is a purpose to everything limited, it's to stop RMT and exploitation of the Trial system.
It is as simple as that. It annoyed me during the trial too, but I decided I liked the game, so i parted with the 20 bucks and played. Didn't actually bother me, I figured there was a real reason other than to piss me off.
Ya i understand, but somebody who want's my money shouldn't start out by hiding things. If they can't police their own server for trial exploits maybe your right they are not somebody i want to have my CC info. lol
thanx for the imput, it seems im not the only one who doesn't likes restriction, and it seems that it's been like this for awhile.
Yeah how hard can it be to catch every single cheater? All other games do it /sarcasm
Protecting the paying customers is definately more important than giving trial accounts all possibilities. It's not like the restrictions are that bad. I barely noticed it when I started.
oh i forget that all the cheaters in the world work at hacking your little game. /sarcasm
that's just something to hide behind, make you believe your getting something for your money.
NcSoft can police and ban thousands of EULA breached accounts every week on a F2P model.
Your telling me a P2P model doesn't have the resources to stop cheaters. Your funny.!
If your point is that other games dont need this restriction then the reason is that they aren't comparable. Eve is a full loot sandbox game. Abuse has significantly more consequences on other players unlike most games.
Vets getting trials and jumping into swarms of ships that could be trained on trials, ganking people, making lots of money w/o any consequences......... is the reason for the restrictions.
You don't like it? Tough s***. Like somene else already said, protecting the subscription holders and the integrity of the game, is much more important than giving some random people trials. Those who like the game and are actually going to get real accounts, don't usually have a problem with the restrictions of the trial.
A Trial is to Try the game. You could afford the cheap ships, so you got to try the basic principles of the game. Flying one ship is really no much different than flying another.
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Hmmm, so your complaining about having restrictions about a trial.
Those restrictions are there to try to prevent exploitation of the trial, to give you a feeling how this game works, and even if you had full access to everthing ingame, then you wouls simply not know enough because players who are plaing since beta are even still learning today.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
hmm the reason for not letting you train some skills is that they can actually be used to exploit the game. Sadly we have a chines farmers and even players trying to Exploit games. And if the could train some skills they would just run and endless chain of trail accounts to abuse and take advantage of the system. SO trail accounts cant be allowed to train some skills. As they could potentially be missused... that is the reason why you cant train some skills
Trial limits are also a nice way to scare off the type of players EVE doesn't need, the type the cry over the most tiny details. The limits on EVE trial are simple.
You can not train t2 ships.
You can not train corp skills.
You can not train adv mining skills. <--- without this hi sec would have nothing but empty belts thanks to RMT bots.
You can not train adv planetary skills. <-- again without this RMT out of control.
You CAN train most gunnery skils.
You CAN train most electronic skills.
You CAN train.... ok in short you can train the vast majority of skills.
Trial limits are in place for the benefit of everyone playing EVE and yes this does include those playing the trial as well.
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I can understand, your frustration, but honestly it all comes down to one thing:
If you don't like the game WITH the restrictions, you won't like it without them. If you have more problems than the restrictions than you will not enjoy the game at all because it will still be the same, except with more ships to choose from. That's all you need to make an informed decision.
Even with the restrictions, you have more than enough skills to take up that 14 day trial and enough ships to do something useful.
As you are new to EvE you dont understand why it has to be like this. If I could train everything on a trail account I would probably have about 6 of them all the time doing things to make me even more wealthy. There are some real game breaking things people would get up to if allowed to do everything on a trail account. First off they are free, and you can only train one charecter per account. And some skills are usefull ass hell if you need to get alot of things done at the same time. And being able to have about 6-10 charecters trained in diffrent ways I could probably exploit the hell out of the sytem if I wanted to.
This goes for everyone ells in EVE also, its a highly competetive game you know. So evryone and there mother would be running trails to exploit the hell out of the game... trust me... This game is not like WoW where we all sit around the fire and sing kumbaya okey.......
Ok easy to solve, 14 day Limited trial offer advertizment (so i don't waste all your time)
and your right if EvE doens't have the skill to police or seperate trial from pay account then they are weak and don't deserve my money .
edit*
always hiding behind the old exploiters and hackers thing, they ruin the game for paying customers doesn't say ANYTHING good about your game.
Ultimately it says the game has fundamental flaws with balance and fare play. If a development team can't prevent /police, or code out, those exploits then they are just riding the gravytrain that you jumped on with your CC in hand.
Not my type of TEAM!
again, thankyou all for the imput.
You wouldn't have liked the game anyway.
They do have the skills the police trial accounts and paid accounts. The way they do it is the reason you're here bitching for some reason.
So, what's the problem?
CCP doesn't care about you. They care about their game. They don't care about subs, they care about their game. Their subs come from this and the fact they know what it takes to make a good game. But if you don't like it, they don't care and they don't want you. EVE is still the biggest indy game in the world and will still be the longest lasting MMO of all time.
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Do you know how many people play eve on trials? Dude theres like 5 thousand trials online right now.
Blizzard couldnt police that kind of activity.
The macro bots and isk sellers would use that to fuck up the market.
Eve isnt your run of the mill mmo, it lives and dies on the market. I understand your opinion on the matter but its like this for a reason.
I would rather you not play that have eves market become destroyed and exploited.
But preventing cheating is exactly what they ARE doing with this solution. And it's even restrictions that have very little influence on the people who wish to play normally. But you refuse to realize this and come up with no viable alternatives.
Who said that EvE was fair? its not a balanced mmo you know? its not what it is about? Is IRL fair? do we all make as mush money as Bill Gates?? Is it fair when a Western country exploits the hell out of the third world?? Do colombian drug cartels care who they hurt to make money?
EvE is the closest we can get to a real life economic game, Where you can foot stomp weaker entities into the ground. Where you can fight as a Reble, or Pirate other people, or scam them legaly... EvE is a harsh mistress and she has never been about fairplay or even plainfields.... That is what makes the game so great.....
But exploiting game mechanics and not pay a cent to CCP is a hole nother mather.. sure you can have 10 accounts or even a 100 accounts and to as mush exploiting as you like But its going to cost you IRL money or game money to keep this up.... there are to FREE HANDOUTS IN EVE
so your saying don fix the fundamental balance, gameplay or fare play flaws, just restrict potentialy new customers to enusre your growth is limited. /duh And that way we won't scare away any of the zombies that are giving us money now.
What flaws?
You haven't even played past the trial dude, you don't even understand what you're talking about. lol. There are no flaws. (at least in what you're talking about in this thread anyway)
The game mechanics that require the trials to be limited, are the core fundamental game mechanics that make EVE head and shoulders above everyone else in the MMO market in terms of PVP and Economy.
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It is already fixed. By putting in trial restrictions. A very good solution with very few downsides.
ah ha, that's the part they don't want you to see, all the necommers get stomped, by vets.
good thing they don't show us that part, then the decission to NOT join is even easyier.
tahnkyou all for the imput, your making my point stronger and stronger. love you
Uzleb, from your post history you dont like pay to play games anyway, so what tempted you into giving the eve trial a go?
Edit: Are you another one of these F2P evangelists who are trying to convert the whole genre to your viewpoint?
F2P/P2P excellent thread.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/282517/F2P-An-Engineers-perspective.html
Here's something else that will drive you away.
You will never ever EVER, until the day EVE servers shut down forever, catch up to the SP of the players who have been around since '03, '04, '05.
But it's ok, you don't need to. You can take those players out on trial accounts. Which hopefully should drive you away too. If you play for the next 6yrs and keep all your skills training all the time, you can still be taken out by a player on a trial account.
Cya.
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