with that i end my statment , again , your wrong.take it to the ffxi forums.
Originally posted by Skieve
I dont think we played the same FFXI aparently , since i can account for exactly the opposite your saying about 11.You couldnt solo shit on 11. I maxed most of my jobs and rest past 66 since i had maat´s cap and i can tell you it took me around 7 years of playing it.So no not everyone had all jobs maxed like you say.
The strong oint of 11 was the endgame content , aparently u didnt get that far, so is normal you didnt get to like the game.The bad side of 11 was that was not solo friendly,( i dont get were you get that your able to solo everythin ,wtf?of course , there was a lot of thins that with a decent player with the addecuated class you could solo some thins , but this was rare cases) and extremely grindy/dificult at end game.Also the game hardware/graphics was really old so couldnt atract new players.
The lv grind was boring as hell.
All i ask of 14 at this point is that they give the same quality end game content they did on 11.Everythin else they have showed so far , already got me convinced ill play it.
I really found it hillarious how - not only that combat is among slowest i ever seen in a mmo in this century, and that both you and enemy stand facing eachother without even moving a inch , and how your enemy just stands there idle and waits to deliver an attack every 10-20 seconds.
But how every time you enter this geriatric combat game plays extremely dramatic japanes action game music
LOL
I am not judging the game. Because i am certan there are many nice things about it.
I just found that extremely funny
Thanks for the video, i am 100% getting this game.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
It's more strategic really, you need some time to figure out what your gonna be hit with. This is by no means a button masher, nor was it intended to be.
Other thing is mauraders are generaly slow big hitters, they use an axe which isn't a really fast weapon, and it doesn't do multi-hits, so they take a while to build up TP (needed for about half the abilities on his bar). Casters play a little slow too, that's due to not only cast times (which are a bit faster than shown here generaly, cure takes a while though cause it's a powerful AOE heal), but it's smart MP management. If you want faster combat look towards a pugilist or lancer.
Also being level 10 doesn't give you a lot of points to play with when you choose your abilities so you have to take that into acount as well. You get a better picture around level 14 or so when you have some sway to play with in the points.
You are of course entitled to your opinion, I just thought I'd give a different take on it, thanks for reading.
I really found it hillarious how - not only that combat is among slowest i ever seen in a mmo in this century, and that both you and enemy stand facing eachother without even moving a inch , and how your enemy just stands there idle and waits to deliver an attack every 10-20 seconds.
But how every time you enter this geriatric combat game plays extremely dramatic japanes action game music
LOL
I am not judging the game. Because i am certan there are many nice things about it.
I just found that extremely funny
That sounds just like a Final Fantasy game to me, wouldn't want it any other way. Not that I plan on playing this or anything, but I would think the series demands it to be that way, it's kind of what makes FF - FF to me lol.
That character is level 10, what do you really think it should look like?
a level 10 warrior in WoW has alot more action than i see in this FFXIV video, really
disregard this comment please. there is no WoW, its just a fabrication of 11million peoples mind. its the biggest group think screwover next to religion.
Wow = skill spamming and gear > actual skill imo ( played the game for 2 years so im not just speaking randomly) The time where u neeeded the most skill was when you were doing raid bosses or maybe some pvp.
ffxi and ffxiv = actual skill > skill spamming and gear (the reason gear is in this second category is because it was important, but not to the point where it could break your char. ive seen lvl 75's do fine in thier lvl 60 relic armor, but wearing lvl 10 gear will break your char though lol). in ff series you need skill 90% of the times even against regular mobs.
so long story short, WoW was based on fast combat action, and ff series is based on slower combat with more thought into combat. please dont compare the two when it comes to combat.
lol what the hell dude, i don't compare anything. i just say that a level 10 warrior in WoW delivers more action then the character i see in the video. excuse me <.<
Yes it is. I'm not saying SE didn't listen to the feedback, simply that if the only feedback had come from the fanbois they'd have changed nothing. As by them the game was perfect anyway.
Its getting quite laughable that a few feel they need to defend something that needs drastic improvements, simply because they had high hopes and don't want to admit to being let down.
Killing time for an average mob at this rate is what? One minute ? Even more ?
Since the game will not have PvP, the slow PVE combat could lead to a terrible grind feeling. "Go kill 30 species of X", with each X representing 1 minute of axing the target...
Like sports, the faster the execution the more people will watch (watch pro League footbal and compare it with your local team).
What's up with these designers these days? Apparently they live on Mars.
Killing time for an average mob at this rate is what? One minute ? Even more ?
Since the game will not have PvP, the slow PVE combat could lead to a terrible grind feeling. "Go kill 30 species of X", with each X representing 1 minute of axing the target...
Like sports, the faster the execution the more people will watch (watch pro League footbal and compare it with your local team).
What's up with these designers these days? Apparently they live on Mars.
Really do you not realize that this is the rpg part of the mmo?
Any graphical, audio, or gameplay restrictions not seen in other mmos but found in FFXIV can be blamed on one thing. PS3
Killing time for an average mob at this rate is what? One minute ? Even more ?
Since the game will not have PvP, the slow PVE combat could lead to a terrible grind feeling. "Go kill 30 species of X", with each X representing 1 minute of axing the target...
Like sports, the faster the execution the more people will watch (watch pro League footbal and compare it with your local team).
What's up with these designers these days? Apparently they live on Mars.
A lot of people like slower based combat in their rpg's brah
You and your friends might not, and thats all well and good, but plenty of others do.
Dunno if their is any other interesting AI like that, would be neat though.
Moles go underground, then attack from below x_X
lol... first time that happened to me, I thought "Oh weak.. he ran away".
About 5 seconds later... 160 damage...
That was pretty neat :-p
That said, I can attest playing a Pugilist in FFXIV and having been a fan of Monk in FFXI, that the attack speed is a lot faster.. Substantially. I'd say it's on par with many other MMOs I've played.... but it all comes down to how you're playing the character.
If you notice, he's also switching between different attacks/skills on his hotbar between attacks, which is taking time. His stamina bar is also full, or close to it, through a lot of that video. When I'mfighting, my stamina bar remains a about 1 or 2 attacks away from empty at all times... though I can wait a few moments in between and let it fill up more first.
The combat is a lot more in the hands of the players this time around. I, personally,love it.
Only thing I think is an inevitability that I'm not looking forward to is, despite all the combinations of skills you train and equip to have available to you while you play, guaranteed, before long there are going to be "required" cookie-cutter builds. If you're going Lancer, you will be expected to have leveled "X, Y and Z" class to get specific skills, or "you're gimped". The same will go for other classes. I'm not looking forward to it... just facing reality.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Yo Final Fantasy 14, I'm happy for you, and Imma let you finish but Starcraft 2 is the best MMO of 2010.
... and so the term "MMORPG" has lost its meaning, as any game that comes out with multiplayer mode will now automatically be considered a "MMORPG" by some.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Yo Final Fantasy 14, I'm happy for you, and Imma let you finish but Starcraft 2 is the best MMO of 2010.
... and so the term "MMORPG" has lost its meaning, as any game that comes out with multiplayer mode will now automatically be considered a "MMORPG" by some.
YO DOG, that's why I used the term "MMO". Instead of "MMORPG". You need to learn to read, bro, you blind or something?
Yo Final Fantasy 14, I'm happy for you, and Imma let you finish but Starcraft 2 is the best MMO of 2010.
... and so the term "MMORPG" has lost its meaning, as any game that comes out with multiplayer mode will now automatically be considered a "MMORPG" by some.
YO DOG, that's why I used the term "MMO". Instead of "MMORPG". You need to learn to read, bro, you blind or something?
Yo Final Fantasy 14, I'm happy for you, and Imma let you finish but Starcraft 2 is the best MMO of 2010.
... and so the term "MMORPG" has lost its meaning, as any game that comes out with multiplayer mode will now automatically be considered a "MMORPG" by some.
YO DOG, that's why I used the term "MMO". Instead of "MMORPG". You need to learn to read, bro, you blind or something?
YO DOG, SC is not even an "MMO"
Yes having 3 others online is not an mmo
Any graphical, audio, or gameplay restrictions not seen in other mmos but found in FFXIV can be blamed on one thing. PS3
Yo Final Fantasy 14, I'm happy for you, and Imma let you finish but Starcraft 2 is the best MMO of 2010.
... and so the term "MMORPG" has lost its meaning, as any game that comes out with multiplayer mode will now automatically be considered a "MMORPG" by some.
YO DOG, that's why I used the term "MMO". Instead of "MMORPG". You need to learn to read, bro, you blind or something?
Massively Multiplayer Online -- I see no "massive" SC2 games going on. Pretty small. I actually get larger Counter-Strike games going.
As stated, online doesn't = MMO. The term MMO doesn't even make sense without following what type of game it is; mmoFPS, RPG, etc.
Massively Multiplayer Online => A BIG ONLINE WHAT THO!?
What are you talking about? They have up to 1-12 players in a game. They have custom games, where you can do scripting to create your own game mode. You guys need to do a bit of research, before you post. It just makes your intelligence as comparable to a retard.
Yo Final Fantasy 14, I'm happy for you, and Imma let you finish but Starcraft 2 is the best MMO of 2010.
... and so the term "MMORPG" has lost its meaning, as any game that comes out with multiplayer mode will now automatically be considered a "MMORPG" by some.
YO DOG, that's why I used the term "MMO". Instead of "MMORPG". You need to learn to read, bro, you blind or something?
Massively Multiplayer Online -- I see no "massive" SC2 games going on. Pretty small. I actually get larger Counter-Strike games going.
As stated, online doesn't = MMO. The term MMO doesn't even make sense without following what type of game it is; mmoFPS, RPG, etc.
Massively Multiplayer Online => A BIG ONLINE WHAT THO!?
Next time just say "online game."
That's in fact your own opinion. SC2 has "massive" games going on, but that's just me. Maybe it's because my penis is only 2 inches ,that's why I think three players are a lot,
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I don't see the hilarious part...I guess I don't quite have the level of stupidity required...rofl
It was just a wow lover was all.
Any graphical, audio, or gameplay restrictions not seen in other mmos but found in FFXIV can be blamed on one thing.
PS3
"TO MICHAEL!"
Thanks for the video, i am 100% getting this game.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
It's more strategic really, you need some time to figure out what your gonna be hit with. This is by no means a button masher, nor was it intended to be.
Other thing is mauraders are generaly slow big hitters, they use an axe which isn't a really fast weapon, and it doesn't do multi-hits, so they take a while to build up TP (needed for about half the abilities on his bar). Casters play a little slow too, that's due to not only cast times (which are a bit faster than shown here generaly, cure takes a while though cause it's a powerful AOE heal), but it's smart MP management. If you want faster combat look towards a pugilist or lancer.
Also being level 10 doesn't give you a lot of points to play with when you choose your abilities so you have to take that into acount as well. You get a better picture around level 14 or so when you have some sway to play with in the points.
You are of course entitled to your opinion, I just thought I'd give a different take on it, thanks for reading.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
It is not strategic, at all. At its core the combat is no different to any typical mmo, just slower.
good, don't play, go away.
You are most likely one of those people that would contribute to the degradation of the community of the game anways.
You aren't wanted... /shoo
That sounds just like a Final Fantasy game to me, wouldn't want it any other way. Not that I plan on playing this or anything, but I would think the series demands it to be that way, it's kind of what makes FF - FF to me lol.
lol what the hell dude, i don't compare anything. i just say that a level 10 warrior in WoW delivers more action then the character i see in the video. excuse me <.<
Don't like the truth, I assume.
If it were left to fanboi's we'd not have seen the improvements they have made in beta 3.
that isnt true
Yes it is. I'm not saying SE didn't listen to the feedback, simply that if the only feedback had come from the fanbois they'd have changed nothing. As by them the game was perfect anyway.
Its getting quite laughable that a few feel they need to defend something that needs drastic improvements, simply because they had high hopes and don't want to admit to being let down.
I wanted to play this game. I really did.
I just don't have the time to spend that long killing single enemies.
Killing time for an average mob at this rate is what? One minute ? Even more ?
Since the game will not have PvP, the slow PVE combat could lead to a terrible grind feeling. "Go kill 30 species of X", with each X representing 1 minute of axing the target...
Like sports, the faster the execution the more people will watch (watch pro League footbal and compare it with your local team).
What's up with these designers these days? Apparently they live on Mars.
Really do you not realize that this is the rpg part of the mmo?
Any graphical, audio, or gameplay restrictions not seen in other mmos but found in FFXIV can be blamed on one thing.
PS3
Yo Final Fantasy 14, I'm happy for you, and Imma let you finish but Starcraft 2 is the best MMO of 2010.
A lot of people like slower based combat in their rpg's brah
You and your friends might not, and thats all well and good, but plenty of others do.
lol... first time that happened to me, I thought "Oh weak.. he ran away".
About 5 seconds later... 160 damage...
That was pretty neat :-p
That said, I can attest playing a Pugilist in FFXIV and having been a fan of Monk in FFXI, that the attack speed is a lot faster.. Substantially. I'd say it's on par with many other MMOs I've played.... but it all comes down to how you're playing the character.
If you notice, he's also switching between different attacks/skills on his hotbar between attacks, which is taking time. His stamina bar is also full, or close to it, through a lot of that video. When I'mfighting, my stamina bar remains a about 1 or 2 attacks away from empty at all times... though I can wait a few moments in between and let it fill up more first.
The combat is a lot more in the hands of the players this time around. I, personally,love it.
Only thing I think is an inevitability that I'm not looking forward to is, despite all the combinations of skills you train and equip to have available to you while you play, guaranteed, before long there are going to be "required" cookie-cutter builds. If you're going Lancer, you will be expected to have leveled "X, Y and Z" class to get specific skills, or "you're gimped". The same will go for other classes. I'm not looking forward to it... just facing reality.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
... and so the term "MMORPG" has lost its meaning, as any game that comes out with multiplayer mode will now automatically be considered a "MMORPG" by some.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
YO DOG, that's why I used the term "MMO". Instead of "MMORPG". You need to learn to read, bro, you blind or something?
YO DOG, SC is not even an "MMO"
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
Yes having 3 others online is not an mmo
Any graphical, audio, or gameplay restrictions not seen in other mmos but found in FFXIV can be blamed on one thing.
PS3
Massively Multiplayer Online -- I see no "massive" SC2 games going on. Pretty small. I actually get larger Counter-Strike games going.
As stated, online doesn't = MMO. The term MMO doesn't even make sense without following what type of game it is; mmoFPS, RPG, etc.
Massively Multiplayer Online => A BIG ONLINE WHAT THO!?
Next time just say "online game."
What are you talking about? They have up to 1-12 players in a game. They have custom games, where you can do scripting to create your own game mode. You guys need to do a bit of research, before you post. It just makes your intelligence as comparable to a retard.
That's in fact your own opinion. SC2 has "massive" games going on, but that's just me. Maybe it's because my penis is only 2 inches ,that's why I think three players are a lot,