TERA is another asian grinder attemtpting to profit from the "gamers" that hop from game to game looking for the next big thing. For Pete's sake... the game world isn't seamless, girls fighting monsters in their panties and TERA is claming to be a next generation MMORPG?
Okay - this isn't relevant to the subject at hand, find another thread or make your own if you want to discuss that (though it doesn't really sound like you want to 'discuss' anything).
On topic - I don't see what the big deal is. WoW has the same thing, as do other games and they don't effect anything. It's highly unlikely that they are going to add anything into the cash shop that would imbalance gameplay, which as far as I can see is the only reason to dislike cash shops. If you're saying "oh that's it, not playing this game" after this news - you weren't going to play in the first place.
[Edit: Senior Community Manager of En Masse Entertainment has responded to some of the player concerns: "A few folks have expressed concerns that TERA users are going to have to pay micro-transaction fees in order to play TERA; that's not the case. We'd like to clarify that TERA is a subscription-based game, not a micro-transaction-based game. As gamers ourselves, we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience."]
TERA is another asian grinder attemtpting to profit from the "gamers" that hop from game to game looking for the next big thing. For Pete's sake... the game world isn't seamless, girls fighting monsters in their panties and TERA is claming to be a next generation MMORPG?
For pete's sake, don't make up things and assume loads of crap just because you have some sort of personal vendetta against games from a certain continent.
I've played TERA myself twice for periods of days and I can tell you that it's 100% seamless in the way that WoW is seamless. In other words you can walk from the beginning of a continent to the tip on the other side.
Secondly, the game WILL NOT have an item shop or so called microtransactions. If you read the article you will see that it's been updated with the following;
[Edit: Senior Community Manager of En Masse Entertainment has responded to some of the player concerns: "A few folks have expressed concerns that TERA users are going to have to pay micro-transaction fees in order to play TERA; that's not the case. We'd like to clarify that TERA is a subscription-based game, not a micro-transaction-based game. As gamers ourselves, we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience."]
In other words the fact that TERA would have microtransactions was merely a crafted rumor based on too fast conclusions.
Now if you want to criticize a game then present some factual arguments instead of raging on about how superior games from a different continent is and making up lies to try to slander it. You sir, are a grade A moron.
[Edit: Senior Community Manager of En Masse Entertainment has responded to some of the player concerns: "A few folks have expressed concerns that TERA users are going to have to pay micro-transaction fees in order to play TERA; that's not the case. We'd like to clarify that TERA is a subscription-based game, not a micro-transaction-based game. As gamers ourselves, we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience."]
“We looked at a variety of e-commerce scenarios and quickly determined that Digital River had the most scalable solution,” said Patrick Wyatt, En Masse Entertainment’s chief operating officer. “Digital River has the global e-commerce experience, and powerful online and in-game features that we demand for our flagship product.”
Read that last phrase about IN-GAME features and wonder why they took Frogster in Europe... They know how to implement item shops (overprices as I might add) into games. Only for NA they had the lack of knowledge. Looks like Digital River
[Edit: Senior Community Manager of En Masse Entertainment has responded to some of the player concerns: "A few folks have expressed concerns that TERA users are going to have to pay micro-transaction fees in order to play TERA; that's not the case. We'd like to clarify that TERA is a subscription-based game, not a micro-transaction-based game. As gamers ourselves, we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience."]
“We looked at a variety of e-commerce scenarios and quickly determined that Digital River had the most scalable solution,” said Patrick Wyatt, En Masse Entertainment’s chief operating officer. “Digital River has the global e-commerce experience, and powerful online and in-game features that we demand for our flagship product.”
Read that last phrase about IN-GAME features and wonder why they took Frogster in Europe... They know how to implement item shops (overprices as I might add) into games. Only for NA they had the lack of knowledge. Looks like Digital River
Hmm, guess we'll have to wait and see what comes of this. Personally, while I prefer no cash shop at all, I can live with vanity items/pets etc. but if they start making extra cash = a better toon I may have to take this off the want list.
Not good if they really get both. But I am not surprised, it seems like several games are doing this right now, the same rumor goes around about TOR.
If games like TERA and TOR go both ways they will however be slaughtered by GW2. I don't think many people will pay for both if a game is as good and not really have either, just expansions and similar things.
If the items in the shop is just appearance stuff it will not impact the game at all but if they actually sell useful stuff the game will never be a big one.
I don't see how it will make any effect whatsoever if the items are purely cosmetic. Ofcourse, there may be -jealous- people...
"We got rid of the trinity." How'd you do that? "Now everyone can heal." Sounds like you just took the mechanic and spread it thin. "Well no, there's one class that can do it better than others." I see, so they're healers. "No. They're.." -mind asplode-
This just keeps getting better and better.. First WAR40K now this. Oh well.
Atleast we still have guild wars 2 and hopefully Mortal Online will be abit more polished and added some content in the next half year. Do we have any other hopes atm? i cant think of any.. The secret world looks interesting but fucking instances and loading screens ftl, also AoC lacked alot of content at release and was abit too buggy.
Have there been a lot of AAA mmos that have cash shops selling game-changing items recently and I just haven't heard about them? Where did everyone get this idea that developers for a subscription model mmo wouldn't know to avoid that?
It also explains why Frogster will be publishing TERA for EUrope. Frogster knows item shops and it'll be easy to implement it for them.
Personally, my TERA dream just died. Lets hope Rift won't screw us like this...
Learn to read....
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[Edit: Senior Community Manager of En Masse Entertainment has responded to some of the player concerns: "A few folks have expressed concerns that TERA users are going to have to pay micro-transaction fees in order to play TERA; that's not the case. We'd like to clarify that TERA is a subscription-based game, not a micro-transaction-based game. As gamers ourselves, we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience."]
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
It also explains why Frogster will be publishing TERA for EUrope. Frogster knows item shops and it'll be easy to implement it for them.
Personally, my TERA dream just died. Lets hope Rift won't screw us like this...
Learn to read....
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[Edit: Senior Community Manager of En Masse Entertainment has responded to some of the player concerns: "A few folks have expressed concerns that TERA users are going to have to pay micro-transaction fees in order to play TERA; that's not the case. We'd like to clarify that TERA is a subscription-based game, not a micro-transaction-based game. As gamers ourselves, we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience."]
It also explains why Frogster will be publishing TERA for EUrope. Frogster knows item shops and it'll be easy to implement it for them.
Personally, my TERA dream just died. Lets hope Rift won't screw us like this...
Learn to read....
Quote:
[Edit: Senior Community Manager of En Masse Entertainment has responded to some of the player concerns: "A few folks have expressed concerns that TERA users are going to have to pay micro-transaction fees in order to play TERA; that's not the case. We'd like to clarify that TERA is a subscription-based game, not a micro-transaction-based game. As gamers ourselves, we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience."]
He doesnt say that they wont have microtransactions... It will be subsciption based and then sell stuff in cash shop but its not based on microtransactions like a F2P would be.
Hard to understand?
If WoW = The Beatles and WAR = Led Zeppelin Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
The point is - having a cash shop is not a valid point to hold against the game. It effects nothing in the game and just gives the devs more cash to put into new content.
The point is - having a cash shop is not a valid point to hold against the game. It effects nothing in the game and just gives the devs more cash to put into new content.
It gives them more cash to put in their pockets, lol. they dont use THAT much on development. And im sure frosgster get a good cut from the item shop, so they would wanna make as much money as possible, they dont have anything to do with development.. so yea, well see.
People who are so bitchy about every small detail of a game and will quit over anything if they even played the game at all dont even count for 1% of most mmos that arent forum only mmos like darkfall so it doesent realy matter if there is or not they wont make a diffrence when it comes to population of a game like Tera.
I know I'm bitching about small details, but you ever hear about full stops..?
The point is - having a cash shop is not a valid point to hold against the game. It effects nothing in the game and just gives the devs more cash to put into new content.
see this is where your mistaken.
It can affect things in the game
I believe there are two kinds of cash shops
1. irrelevant trinkets, mounts ,aesthetic apparel, stuff that has no impact on end game PVE or PVP
2.Gear, enhancements, stuff that is critical to endgame PVE and PVP
neither has to be bought to play the game.
To the caterpillar it is the end of the world, to the master, it is a butterfly.
It also explains why Frogster will be publishing TERA for EUrope. Frogster knows item shops and it'll be easy to implement it for them.
Personally, my TERA dream just died. Lets hope Rift won't screw us like this...
Learn to read....
Quote:
[Edit: Senior Community Manager of En Masse Entertainment has responded to some of the player concerns: "A few folks have expressed concerns that TERA users are going to have to pay micro-transaction fees in order to play TERA; that's not the case. We'd like to clarify that TERA is a subscription-based game, not a micro-transaction-based game. As gamers ourselves, we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience."]
He doesnt say that they wont have microtransactions... It will be subsciption based and then sell stuff in cash shop but its not based on microtransactions like a F2P would be.
Hard to understand?
Can you not read also...Senior Community Manager say's we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience.
Unitl they say other wise expect subscription base only.
Massively F'ed up and had to put a EDIT in that post of theirs.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
The point is - having a cash shop is not a valid point to hold against the game. It effects nothing in the game and just gives the devs more cash to put into new content.
see this is where your mistaken.
It can affect things in the game
I believe there are two kinds of cash shops
1. irrelevant trinkets, mounts ,aesthetic apparel, stuff that has no impact on end game PVE or PVP
2.Gear, enhancements, stuff that is critical to endgame PVE and PVP
neither has to be bought to play the game.
Yes, but if you say "well, I'm not playing this game anymore" based on this announcement - you are making an unfounded assumption that it is type 2. Has there even been a recent AAA title that's done type 2? What makes you think a game developer would knowingly imbalance their own game if a cash shop wasn't their primary source of revenue? That makes zero sense.
The point is - having a cash shop is not a valid point to hold against the game. It effects nothing in the game and just gives the devs more cash to put into new content.
see this is where your mistaken.
It can affect things in the game
I believe there are two kinds of cash shops
1. irrelevant trinkets, mounts ,aesthetic apparel, stuff that has no impact on end game PVE or PVP
2.Gear, enhancements, stuff that is critical to endgame PVE and PVP
neither has to be bought to play the game.
Yes, but if you say "well, I'm not playing this game anymore" based on this announcement - you are making an unfounded assumption that it is type 2. Has there even been a recent AAA title that's done type 2? What makes you think a game developer would knowingly imbalance their own game if a cash shop wasn't their primary source of revenue? That makes zero sense.
Indeed.
"We got rid of the trinity." How'd you do that? "Now everyone can heal." Sounds like you just took the mechanic and spread it thin. "Well no, there's one class that can do it better than others." I see, so they're healers. "No. They're.." -mind asplode-
The point is - having a cash shop is not a valid point to hold against the game. It effects nothing in the game and just gives the devs more cash to put into new content.
see this is where your mistaken.
It can affect things in the game
I believe there are two kinds of cash shops
1. irrelevant trinkets, mounts ,aesthetic apparel, stuff that has no impact on end game PVE or PVP
2.Gear, enhancements, stuff that is critical to endgame PVE and PVP
neither has to be bought to play the game.
Yes, but if you say "well, I'm not playing this game anymore" based on this announcement - you are making an unfounded assumption that it is type 2. Has there even been a recent AAA title that's done type 2? What makes you think a game developer would knowingly imbalance their own game if a cash shop wasn't their primary source of revenue? That makes zero sense.
I agree. The game looks cool enough for me to try it either way.
To the caterpillar it is the end of the world, to the master, it is a butterfly.
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Okay - this isn't relevant to the subject at hand, find another thread or make your own if you want to discuss that (though it doesn't really sound like you want to 'discuss' anything).
On topic - I don't see what the big deal is. WoW has the same thing, as do other games and they don't effect anything. It's highly unlikely that they are going to add anything into the cash shop that would imbalance gameplay, which as far as I can see is the only reason to dislike cash shops. If you're saying "oh that's it, not playing this game" after this news - you weren't going to play in the first place.
From the original link:
[Edit: Senior Community Manager of En Masse Entertainment has responded to some of the player concerns: "A few folks have expressed concerns that TERA users are going to have to pay micro-transaction fees in order to play TERA; that's not the case. We'd like to clarify that TERA is a subscription-based game, not a micro-transaction-based game. As gamers ourselves, we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience."]
For pete's sake, don't make up things and assume loads of crap just because you have some sort of personal vendetta against games from a certain continent.
I've played TERA myself twice for periods of days and I can tell you that it's 100% seamless in the way that WoW is seamless. In other words you can walk from the beginning of a continent to the tip on the other side.
Secondly, the game WILL NOT have an item shop or so called microtransactions. If you read the article you will see that it's been updated with the following;
[Edit: Senior Community Manager of En Masse Entertainment has responded to some of the player concerns: "A few folks have expressed concerns that TERA users are going to have to pay micro-transaction fees in order to play TERA; that's not the case. We'd like to clarify that TERA is a subscription-based game, not a micro-transaction-based game. As gamers ourselves, we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience."]
In other words the fact that TERA would have microtransactions was merely a crafted rumor based on too fast conclusions.
Now if you want to criticize a game then present some factual arguments instead of raging on about how superior games from a different continent is and making up lies to try to slander it. You sir, are a grade A moron.
Yeah, that's what TERA tells me on twitter as well. But if you read the statement of Digital River there's a complete different story...
“We looked at a variety of e-commerce scenarios and quickly determined that Digital River had the most scalable solution,” said Patrick Wyatt, En Masse Entertainment’s chief operating officer. “Digital River has the global e-commerce experience, and powerful online and in-game features that we demand for our flagship product.”
Read that last phrase about IN-GAME features and wonder why they took Frogster in Europe... They know how to implement item shops (overprices as I might add) into games. Only for NA they had the lack of knowledge. Looks like Digital River
I'll never play a MMO where my success is measured by how deep my pockets are in real life.
I'll reserve judgement until I see how it'll be implemented. If it's like WoW's setup, I don't see the big deal.
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Hmm, guess we'll have to wait and see what comes of this. Personally, while I prefer no cash shop at all, I can live with vanity items/pets etc. but if they start making extra cash = a better toon I may have to take this off the want list.
I don't see how it will make any effect whatsoever if the items are purely cosmetic. Ofcourse, there may be -jealous- people...
"We got rid of the trinity." How'd you do that? "Now everyone can heal." Sounds like you just took the mechanic and spread it thin. "Well no, there's one class that can do it better than others." I see, so they're healers. "No. They're.." -mind asplode-
This just keeps getting better and better.. First WAR40K now this. Oh well.
Atleast we still have guild wars 2 and hopefully Mortal Online will be abit more polished and added some content in the next half year. Do we have any other hopes atm? i cant think of any.. The secret world looks interesting but fucking instances and loading screens ftl, also AoC lacked alot of content at release and was abit too buggy.
Currently Playing Path of Exile
Nothing wrong with a lil bit of LSD ever once in awhile. Not my thing, but hey you can't knock it.
LMAO! I am sure they will wind up in this game aswell. Never really knew how many younger people played that game until I went on the aion forums.
Awesome, looking for ward to it. I don't care for fluff items as i never buy those anyways. Too much ado about nothing as usual on forums.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
Have there been a lot of AAA mmos that have cash shops selling game-changing items recently and I just haven't heard about them? Where did everyone get this idea that developers for a subscription model mmo wouldn't know to avoid that?
Learn to read....
Quote:
[Edit: Senior Community Manager of En Masse Entertainment has responded to some of the player concerns: "A few folks have expressed concerns that TERA users are going to have to pay micro-transaction fees in order to play TERA; that's not the case. We'd like to clarify that TERA is a subscription-based game, not a micro-transaction-based game. As gamers ourselves, we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience."]
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
THIS
PIRATE LORDS
He doesnt say that they wont have microtransactions... It will be subsciption based and then sell stuff in cash shop but its not based on microtransactions like a F2P would be.
Hard to understand?
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
The point is - having a cash shop is not a valid point to hold against the game. It effects nothing in the game and just gives the devs more cash to put into new content.
It gives them more cash to put in their pockets, lol. they dont use THAT much on development. And im sure frosgster get a good cut from the item shop, so they would wanna make as much money as possible, they dont have anything to do with development.. so yea, well see.
Currently Playing Path of Exile
I know I'm bitching about small details, but you ever hear about full stops..?
see this is where your mistaken.
It can affect things in the game
I believe there are two kinds of cash shops
1. irrelevant trinkets, mounts ,aesthetic apparel, stuff that has no impact on end game PVE or PVP
2.Gear, enhancements, stuff that is critical to endgame PVE and PVP
neither has to be bought to play the game.
To the caterpillar it is the end of the world, to the master, it is a butterfly.
Can you not read also...Senior Community Manager say's we believe that our fellow players shouldn't be required to pay micro-transaction fees in order to have a great gaming experience.
Unitl they say other wise expect subscription base only.
Massively F'ed up and had to put a EDIT in that post of theirs.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Yes, but if you say "well, I'm not playing this game anymore" based on this announcement - you are making an unfounded assumption that it is type 2. Has there even been a recent AAA title that's done type 2? What makes you think a game developer would knowingly imbalance their own game if a cash shop wasn't their primary source of revenue? That makes zero sense.
Indeed.
"We got rid of the trinity." How'd you do that? "Now everyone can heal." Sounds like you just took the mechanic and spread it thin. "Well no, there's one class that can do it better than others." I see, so they're healers. "No. They're.." -mind asplode-
I agree. The game looks cool enough for me to try it either way.
To the caterpillar it is the end of the world, to the master, it is a butterfly.
and this just went far south off my radar...