The point is - having a cash shop is not a valid point to hold against the game. It effects nothing in the game and just gives the devs more cash to put into new content.
It gives them more cash to put in their pockets, lol. they dont use THAT much on development. And im sure frosgster get a good cut from the item shop, so they would wanna make as much money as possible, they dont have anything to do with development.. so yea, well see.
Can you prove what you are saying?
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
You/we still don''t know if the cash shop will be purely cosmetic or sell gears that increase power and w/e
And the game automatically ends up "far south off" your radar?
Come on now...
"We got rid of the trinity." How'd you do that? "Now everyone can heal." Sounds like you just took the mechanic and spread it thin. "Well no, there's one class that can do it better than others." I see, so they're healers. "No. They're.." -mind asplode-
[quote] Localized korean grinder + sub + item shop = lol x2 [/quote]
Sigh, why do I bother...?
Dont be so serious..these are typical MMORPG.com reactions. As if players who complain here day and night make any difference in success or failure of MMOS.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
[quote] Localized korean grinder + sub + item shop = lol x2 [/quote]
Sigh, why do I bother...?
Dont be so serious..these are typical MMORPG.com reactions. As if players who complain here day and night make any difference in success or failure of MMOS.
Lol, I know - it's just frustrating that so many don't think...
I'm studying to become a logic/critical thinking professor so I have a personal drive to dispel fallacies like these .
Localized korean grinder + sub + item shop = lol x2
Yeah because only Koreans make grinders...you are absolutely right.
tell me one mmo from korea that isnt a grind fest ?
Fail come back is fail.
"We got rid of the trinity." How'd you do that? "Now everyone can heal." Sounds like you just took the mechanic and spread it thin. "Well no, there's one class that can do it better than others." I see, so they're healers. "No. They're.." -mind asplode-
You/we still don''t know if the cash shop will be purely cosmetic or sell gears that increase power and w/e
And the game automatically ends up "far south off" your radar?
Come on now...
In other words he was never planning on getting the game anyways:P As i said before the pure haters do not even count for 1% of the population in a game like Tera. Tera is not a forum mmo like Darkfall so it doesent realy matter.
Localized korean grinder + sub + item shop = lol x2
Yeah because only Koreans make grinders...you are absolutely right.
tell me one mmo from korea that isnt a grind fest ?
tell me one wester nnorpg that is not a grind?
just because they mask it with a quest it is still grind.
What the hell?? Sgtfrog this is a forum you cant use logic and reasoning here no matter how much evidence backs you up. Its random half bias/ half made up information said in a highly arrogant way or nothing at all. Now spew some random information you made up while eatting breakfast or leave the boards!
I challenged my reflection to a staring contest....4 days later i won
Awesome, looking for ward to it. I don't care for fluff items as i never buy those anyways. Too much ado about nothing as usual on forums.
It's not about having fluff items or power items in the cash shop...
You buy the box to play a game for $50, then you pay a monthly subscription of $15. That should be enough to get 100% of the content of the game. Nooo... They're greedy and want to give you "extra services" on top of the box you bought and monthly subscription and you can buy extra in-game items for real money..?
WTF are we paying that subscription for anyway..? I thought paying subscription means you'd get the WHOLE content..?
Another one checked off the list. Im wondering if there will be any new games to play in 2011.
Keeping my hopes up for Rift. If that fails, I'll stick with Allods till something new comes.
...now I hear ppl yel CASH SHOP
Yup... You pay $30 to get some starting gear (bank, bag & mount) and after that you pay less than $10 for the incense & mount feed in the item shop. Looks like subscription to me ;-)
Awesome, looking for ward to it. I don't care for fluff items as i never buy those anyways. Too much ado about nothing as usual on forums.
It's not about having fluff items or power items in the cash shop...
You buy the box to play a game for $50, then you pay a monthly subscription of $15. That should be enough to get 100% of the content of the game. Nooo... They're greedy and want to give you "extra services" on top of the box you bought and monthly subscription and you can buy extra in-game items for real money..?
WTF are we paying that subscription for anyway..? I thought paying subscription means you'd get the WHOLE content..?
I hardly consider a few .DAT files "content". If they made you pay to access certain areas or modes of play, that would be roping off content. If you care that much about a few mount skins and cosmetic pets, I suppose you go absolutely nuts when they try to sell expansion packs?
Awesome, looking for ward to it. I don't care for fluff items as i never buy those anyways. Too much ado about nothing as usual on forums.
It's not about having fluff items or power items in the cash shop...
You buy the box to play a game for $50, then you pay a monthly subscription of $15. That should be enough to get 100% of the content of the game. Nooo... They're greedy and want to give you "extra services" on top of the box you bought and monthly subscription and you can buy extra in-game items for real money..?
WTF are we paying that subscription for anyway..? I thought paying subscription means you'd get the WHOLE content..?
I hardly consider a few .DAT files "content". If they made you pay to access certain areas or modes of play, that would be roping off content. If you care that much about a few mount skins and cosmetic pets, I suppose you go absolutely nuts when they try to sell expansion packs?
the skins & pets are in the .DIT files as well, so it's content... And yes, I go nuts about expansions I have to pay for, especially if the developer said all will be free *looks at LotRo Siege of Mirkwood* Afterall, that $15 a month is not only subscription. You pay for the servers, bug fixes, and it could easily cover the expences of content expansions. Just look at Blizzard. They make so much money from their subscriptions, and still want their players to pay for the expansions... WTF???
Awesome, looking for ward to it. I don't care for fluff items as i never buy those anyways. Too much ado about nothing as usual on forums.
It's not about having fluff items or power items in the cash shop...
You buy the box to play a game for $50, then you pay a monthly subscription of $15. That should be enough to get 100% of the content of the game. Nooo... They're greedy and want to give you "extra services" on top of the box you bought and monthly subscription and you can buy extra in-game items for real money..?
WTF are we paying that subscription for anyway..? I thought paying subscription means you'd get the WHOLE content..?
I hardly consider a few .DAT files "content". If they made you pay to access certain areas or modes of play, that would be roping off content. If you care that much about a few mount skins and cosmetic pets, I suppose you go absolutely nuts when they try to sell expansion packs?
the skins & pets are in the .DIT files as well, so it's content... And yes, I go nuts about expansions I have to pay for, especially if the developer said all will be free *looks at LotRo Siege of Mirkwood* Afterall, that $15 a month is not only subscription. You pay for the servers, bug fixes, and it could easily cover the expences of content expansions. Just look at Blizzard. They make so much money from their subscriptions, and still want their players to pay for the expansions... WTF???
Is not being able to have that celestial pony yourself really changing your whole gaming experience? I don't think so.
Those sub fees do cover the cost for them to develop expansions, but they are trying to keep the game profitable, not just break even and continue endlessly generating content. It's not like they just line their pockets with whatever extra money they pull in - they can use it to roll out with content patches and expansions faster than they'd otherwise be able to, and work on new projects. It benefits the customer ultimately.
Awesome, looking for ward to it. I don't care for fluff items as i never buy those anyways. Too much ado about nothing as usual on forums.
It's not about having fluff items or power items in the cash shop...
You buy the box to play a game for $50, then you pay a monthly subscription of $15. That should be enough to get 100% of the content of the game. Nooo... They're greedy and want to give you "extra services" on top of the box you bought and monthly subscription and you can buy extra in-game items for real money..?
WTF are we paying that subscription for anyway..? I thought paying subscription means you'd get the WHOLE content..?
Don't use the extra service, problem solved. they are not holding a gun against your head to use fluff items.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
Well, I certainly won't be buying it for launch as I detest any form of "item shop".
Most start with 'non essential' items and later kick those in after everyone got used to spending real cash on pixels.
I will wait until the hardcore people purchase it and SS what is in these shops but usually, these things aren't a good idea for most players.
Stuff is usually bought off the item shop, "resold" in game and that money makes powerhouse players.
In Aion, people bought "subscriptions" to a magazine (which they had no intent on reading) to get these armor 'True White/True Black' dyes. They then sold them in game for 500k-1 million which was a lot of money at the time, and then they bought gear/items to twink their toons to kill you better.
I have no idea why people don't understand that even "fluff" trinkets and the like are bought for real dollars, then flipped around and resold to get substantial things off the broker using that new gold they just got from the sale.
Well, I certainly won't be buying it for launch as I detest any form of "item shop".
Most start with 'non essential' items and later kick those in after everyone got used to spending real cash on pixels.
I will wait until the hardcore people purchase it and SS what is in these shops but usually, these things aren't a good idea for most players.
Stuff is usually bought off the item shop, "resold" in game and that money makes powerhouse players.
In Aion, people bought "subscriptions" to a magazine (which they had no intent on reading) to get these armor 'True White/True Black' dyes. They then sold them in game for 500k-1 million which was a lot of money at the time, and then they bought gear/items to twink their toons to kill you better.
I have no idea why people don't understand that even "fluff" trinkets and the like are bought for real dollars, then flipped around and resold to get substantial things off the broker using that new gold they just got from the sale.
Awesome, looking for ward to it. I don't care for fluff items as i never buy those anyways. Too much ado about nothing as usual on forums.
It's not about having fluff items or power items in the cash shop...
You buy the box to play a game for $50, then you pay a monthly subscription of $15. That should be enough to get 100% of the content of the game. Nooo... They're greedy and want to give you "extra services" on top of the box you bought and monthly subscription and you can buy extra in-game items for real money..?
WTF are we paying that subscription for anyway..? I thought paying subscription means you'd get the WHOLE content..?
I hardly consider a few .DAT files "content". If they made you pay to access certain areas or modes of play, that would be roping off content. If you care that much about a few mount skins and cosmetic pets, I suppose you go absolutely nuts when they try to sell expansion packs?
the skins & pets are in the .DIT files as well, so it's content... And yes, I go nuts about expansions I have to pay for, especially if the developer said all will be free *looks at LotRo Siege of Mirkwood* Afterall, that $15 a month is not only subscription. You pay for the servers, bug fixes, and it could easily cover the expences of content expansions. Just look at Blizzard. They make so much money from their subscriptions, and still want their players to pay for the expansions... WTF???
Is not being able to have that celestial pony yourself really changing your whole gaming experience? I don't think so.
Those sub fees do cover the cost for them to develop expansions, but they are trying to keep the game profitable, not just break even and continue endlessly generating content. It's not like they just line their pockets with whatever extra money they pull in - they can use it to roll out with content patches and expansions faster than they'd otherwise be able to, and work on new projects. It benefits the customer ultimately.
He he, for someone that is studiyng to be a professsor you're quite gullable
Now for the case about itemshop yes/no.
I think it's all about where people set the barrier. Some people don't mind either way, some people think fluff items are the limit and some people don't agree with itemshops whatsoever.
To each his own, and try to respect peoples choices.
I for one am not going in Terra if there is an itemshop.
Subscription + itemshop is a nono, even if it just contains fluffies. It opens up a door to much more ...
In my book subscription should cover everything!
But like I said, this is my barrier, and I'm not gonna force it down your throat.
Comments
Can you prove what you are saying?
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
Localized korean grinder + sub + item shop = lol x2
Yeah because only Koreans make grinders...you are absolutely right.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
So you find out the game will have a cash shop.
You/we still don''t know if the cash shop will be purely cosmetic or sell gears that increase power and w/e
And the game automatically ends up "far south off" your radar?
Come on now...
"We got rid of the trinity." How'd you do that? "Now everyone can heal." Sounds like you just took the mechanic and spread it thin. "Well no, there's one class that can do it better than others." I see, so they're healers. "No. They're.." -mind asplode-
Sigh, why do I bother...?
Another one checked off the list. Im wondering if there will be any new games to play in 2011.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
Dont be so serious..these are typical MMORPG.com reactions. As if players who complain here day and night make any difference in success or failure of MMOS.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
tell me one mmo from korea that isnt a grind fest ?
Tell me one game from western developers recently which is not a grinder?
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
Lol, I know - it's just frustrating that so many don't think...
I'm studying to become a logic/critical thinking professor so I have a personal drive to dispel fallacies like these
.
Fail come back is fail.
"We got rid of the trinity." How'd you do that? "Now everyone can heal." Sounds like you just took the mechanic and spread it thin. "Well no, there's one class that can do it better than others." I see, so they're healers. "No. They're.." -mind asplode-
In other words he was never planning on getting the game anyways:P As i said before the pure haters do not even count for 1% of the population in a game like Tera. Tera is not a forum mmo like Darkfall so it doesent realy matter.
tell me one wester nnorpg that is not a grind?
just because they mask it with a quest it is still grind.
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
Anyone think the cash shop will have xp potions to alleviate the grind?
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
I am 99% sure it will not.
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
What the hell?? Sgtfrog this is a forum you cant use logic and reasoning here no matter how much evidence backs you up. Its random half bias/ half made up information said in a highly arrogant way or nothing at all. Now spew some random information you made up while eatting breakfast or leave the boards!
I challenged my reflection to a staring contest....4 days later i won
It's not about having fluff items or power items in the cash shop...
You buy the box to play a game for $50, then you pay a monthly subscription of $15. That should be enough to get 100% of the content of the game. Nooo... They're greedy and want to give you "extra services" on top of the box you bought and monthly subscription and you can buy extra in-game items for real money..?
WTF are we paying that subscription for anyway..? I thought paying subscription means you'd get the WHOLE content..?
Keeping my hopes up for Rift. If that fails, I'll stick with Allods till something new comes.
...now I hear ppl yel CASH SHOP
Yup... You pay $30 to get some starting gear (bank, bag & mount) and after that you pay less than $10 for the incense & mount feed in the item shop. Looks like subscription to me ;-)
I hardly consider a few .DAT files "content". If they made you pay to access certain areas or modes of play, that would be roping off content. If you care that much about a few mount skins and cosmetic pets, I suppose you go absolutely nuts when they try to sell expansion packs?
the skins & pets are in the .DIT files as well, so it's content... And yes, I go nuts about expansions I have to pay for, especially if the developer said all will be free *looks at LotRo Siege of Mirkwood* Afterall, that $15 a month is not only subscription. You pay for the servers, bug fixes, and it could easily cover the expences of content expansions. Just look at Blizzard. They make so much money from their subscriptions, and still want their players to pay for the expansions... WTF???
Is not being able to have that celestial pony yourself really changing your whole gaming experience? I don't think so.
Those sub fees do cover the cost for them to develop expansions, but they are trying to keep the game profitable, not just break even and continue endlessly generating content. It's not like they just line their pockets with whatever extra money they pull in - they can use it to roll out with content patches and expansions faster than they'd otherwise be able to, and work on new projects. It benefits the customer ultimately.
Don't use the extra service, problem solved. they are not holding a gun against your head to use fluff items.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
Well, I certainly won't be buying it for launch as I detest any form of "item shop".
Most start with 'non essential' items and later kick those in after everyone got used to spending real cash on pixels.
I will wait until the hardcore people purchase it and SS what is in these shops but usually, these things aren't a good idea for most players.
Stuff is usually bought off the item shop, "resold" in game and that money makes powerhouse players.
In Aion, people bought "subscriptions" to a magazine (which they had no intent on reading) to get these armor 'True White/True Black' dyes. They then sold them in game for 500k-1 million which was a lot of money at the time, and then they bought gear/items to twink their toons to kill you better.
I have no idea why people don't understand that even "fluff" trinkets and the like are bought for real dollars, then flipped around and resold to get substantial things off the broker using that new gold they just got from the sale.
It's nothing but RMT by any other name.
"TO MICHAEL!"
So make all the items bind to account.
He he, for someone that is studiyng to be a professsor you're quite gullable
Now for the case about itemshop yes/no.
I think it's all about where people set the barrier. Some people don't mind either way, some people think fluff items are the limit and some people don't agree with itemshops whatsoever.
To each his own, and try to respect peoples choices.
I for one am not going in Terra if there is an itemshop.
Subscription + itemshop is a nono, even if it just contains fluffies. It opens up a door to much more ...
In my book subscription should cover everything!
But like I said, this is my barrier, and I'm not gonna force it down your throat.