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Nvidia graphic card buying help for you, for running FFXIV
fistorm
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I think the biggest problem I see with gamers is not knowning what card runs better then what card, and the common mistake of thinking a higher model number is better. So compare these cards before you shop, cause the last thing you want to do is get home and think your card is better then what you thought and find out the hard way.
Here is the system requirements for FFXIV:
Minimum PC System Requirements
PC Processor Type
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processor, AMD Athlon™ X2 processor
PC Processor Speed
2.4GHz
PC Operating System
Windows XP with Service Pack 3, Windows Vista with Service Pack 2, Windows 7
PC System Memory
2GB RAM
PC Hard Drive Space
10GB
PC Video
512MB 32-bit 1280 x 720 DirectX 9.0c-compatible NVIDIA GeForce 8800, Radeon HD 2900 or higher video card
PC Sound Card
DirectSound-compatible sound card
PC Drive Type and Speed
DVD-ROM
PC Additional Requirements
Broadband Internet service is required to play this game
PC Optional Requirements
A gamepad is recommended, but not required to play this game
Based off of the 8800 requirment, Your going to need a 30+ billion texture fill rate
Heres a list of the texture fill rates for all the nvidia cards I could find. You can also find them all at www.nvidia.com
Texture fill rate/sec in billions, I would get the highest fill rate you can with as much ram on the card as you can for your budget.
Warning: Some of these have two graphic processor unit's (gpu's) in them so the texture fill rate would be half the texture fill rate listed here if the game made doesnt take advantage of two graphic processor unit's gpu's), most of the ones from 4.4 billion to 42 billion rates are single gpu's, so youll get the full texture fill rate on all games, simply go to http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_family.html to see if its a dual gpu card or not, I'm not sure if FFXIV takes advantage of dual GPU's or not, is a good question to ask them, as the higher fill rates would be a huge benifit if it does take advantage of it.
Also keep in mind the over all preformance of a card gets better as new techology comes out, so your 400 series is going to have a better overall preformance then your series 200, 9, or 8 cards.
9 series
GeForce 9800 GX2 76.8
GeForce 9800 GTX+ 47.2
GeForce 9800 GTX 43.2
GeForce 9800 GT 33.6
GeForce 9600 GT 20.8
GeForce 9600 GSO 512 15.6 billion
GeForce 9600 GSO 26.4 billion
GeForce 9500 GT 8.8 billion
GeForce 9400 GT 4.4 billion
GeForce 9400 mGPU
GeForce 9300 mGPU
8 series
GeForce 8800 GTS
GeForce 8800 GT 33.6
GeForce 8600 GTS
GeForce 8600 GT
GeForce 8500 GT
GeForce 8400 GS
200 Series
GeForce GTX 295 92.2
GeForce GTX 285 51.8
GeForce GTX 285 for Mac 51.8
GeForce GTX 280 48.2
GeForce GTX 275 50.6
GeForce GTX 260 36.9
GeForce GTS 250 47.2
GeForce GT 240 not sure look it up
GeForce GT 220 not sure look it up
GeForce 210 not sure look it up
400 Series
GeForce GTX 480 42
GeForce GTX 470 34
GeForce GTX 465 26.7
GeForce GTX 460 37.8
Comments
That post is very misleading. For example, the GeForce 9800 GX2 and GTX 295 may have higher fill rates than the other cards, but since they have dual GPU's on a single card and thus uses SLI they will actually be slower in some games and have the other quirks SLI has. In addition to this, the 9800 GX2 is slower than a single GTX 480 or 470 for sure, and perhaps slower than some of the other single cards (GTX 280/285?).
The list is really not accurate at all. If you went purely by those numbers, you'd assume the 9800 GTX is faster than the GTX 480, but the GTX 480 is much much faster, as are the GTX 470, GTX 285, 280, 260, etc; while it is about the same speed as the 250 and faster than the 240, 220, etc...
A better option would be to go to a site like www.tomshardware.com and look at the graphics card charts they have there.
I was suprised when I saw that it requires an 8800 or better. If you haven't gotten a gaming computer in the last 3 or so years looks like you can't play it. I never understood why companies now won't support graphics cards at least 5 years back. If the trend keeps up, you'll have to have a graphics card from within the past 6 months to play a new game soon lol
I have 6 computers, and only 1 of them can play this game. 3 of them are within 5 years old. 1 is 10 years old. And the other 2 are before even hyperthreading was out lol (one is an apple 2!, it still works!). I guess what I'm getting at is the only computer that will run this is the one I got for christmas last year. No dual boxing for me...I really hate playing a single character! I play FFXI with a full party of just me.
Looks like my 295s are still kickn ass.
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Yeah, MMO's are notoriously bad for having really high system specs (at least for the ones that have higher end graphics instead of a stylized approach)!
yeah, but even Age of Conan (which imo has the 2nd best graphics right now) I can 4-box it. From the videos I've seen, FFIV doesn't have better looking graphics than AoC, but only 1 computer will run it. I guess I'll have to go find a couple cheap 8800s or better and install them.
Why doesn't it require DirectX 10. I thought that 8800 was the first DX10 card, maybe i'm confused, happens when you get old lol
Theres more to it then just simple graphics comparing aoc to ff xiv cba to explain. Im glad they arent making it look from year 2000 cause some people are to poor to spend 40 dollars on a new card.
I think Age of Conan has a wider range of settings that it allows you to choose from, so while the game may look amazing on high settings, it actually isn't impressive at its lowest settings.
It's entirely possible too that FFXIV just isn't coded as efficiently, but I do know that AoC runs better now than it did at launch and it's probable that FFXIV will have the same thing happen to it.
I would say anything lower than a gtx260 isn't going to run this very well. That includes the 9800x2 cards. You also will need a core2duo processor at least 2.2ghz, and at least 2gb of ram. That's in windows xp. In windows 7 you probably want at least 3gb of ram and a 2.6ghz c2duo.
While the game may only be DirectX 9 (probably due to the PS3 only being DX9), the 8800's do run DX9 faster than the 7000 series cards and apparently that speed is the minimum needed for the game. :-p
Then i would say you are wrong.
I'd say that depends on your definition of "running the game well"... :-p
I think the point your getting at is WILL FFXIV be using SLI technology, If it does, then youll get the full fill rate, if it doesnt then youll only get half of what its listed, but I will list on the main post if its dual core gpu or not for that fact, as it will be half the fill texture of what its stated as.
I must admit I am pretty ignorant when it comes to computer jargon and what's better than what. If I have question I detest trying to find info from pc forums cause it seems like the talk there turns into an epeen contest of whos is better than whos. I just ask my best friend and usually get in the ballpark of the answer I am looking for. I was sad to learn that my pc wasn't gonna be able to handle FFXIV. I was debating getting it on my PS3 and playen it with the wife on her pc but then we found out her 3 month old rig, which costed us around $1,000 dollars and ran Aion great in pvp, wasn't able to handle FF's requirements either so I cancelled my pre-order. I come from a heavy console background and never really understood why games developed for pc's couldn't work in boundaries like games developed for consoles are. I know they are pushing graphics on my X Box 360 since I see games do look better and better so telling me that they can't make games better if they dont make you have to go out and upgrade your pc to keep up is rubbish imo. Xbox is same as it was 4 years ago when I bought it and games are looking better I wont go upgraden my pc just yet to play a game. And the only game my comp hasn't been able to play soo far is looking like its FFXIV. I guess I'll be skipping this title all together. BTW b4 flaming me it's not about money either my pc is lil over a year and like i said my wifes is about 3 months old so we drop cash when its worth it..
RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.
1000 dollars on a 3 month old and cant run ff xiv that realy doesent require anything special then you seriously got ripped off big time just saying hehe. The game doesent realy require much it just forces people who has not upgraded there computers since they first got wow. Dont buy your computer at wal mart next time.
That is part of my point, the other part is that some of the older parts like the 9800 GTX are listed as having higher fill rates than the newer parts like the GTX 480 but in reality are quite a bit slower, so fill rate by itself is not necessarily an accurate indication of speed.
If your computer is that new then what part is holding you back from being able to run the game??
RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
I posted this in another thread but this site is good at comparing the different cards and is based on benchmarks. For FFXIV you want to stick with a score of 900(bare minimum) or better.
Sorry for prev post . Learning to talk on forums also -.-.....
Anyways my pc apparently can't run because of my processor Intel Core 2 Quad 2.33GHZ
And my graphics card is also to low and I am needing to upgrade power supply to upgrade that any further.
My wifes PC is newer
Win 7 Home Premium Gateway DX4300
Processors are AMD Phenom II x4 810 2.60 GHz
ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
8 gig ram
not sure what other info my buddy asked for really
As to the post that we were ripped off ... not really her older pc was crap and we were running Aion at the time and her pc handles that great so it wasn't a waste of anything. She also plays wow when she has time and it runs that verry well also.
RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.
The Core 2 Quad is more than powerful enough to run this game.
Your wife's video card is pretty bad and would have trouble running most recent games with high settings (and it seems like the only options FFXIV has are "high" and "really high" lol...), I'm not sure if the video card in your computer is better or not.
I know it isn't the end all and is not that accurate, but we also came to the descision to look further into the issue when we ran the FFIXV benchmark and got horrid scores. I was reading into it, and I don't think I saw scores as low as we had anywhere so it caused me to investigate. Both our scores didn't break 500 and from what I was getting 2k is roughly the norm of average pc's. With other games coming out and us both incredibly bored or wow, we were hopen this one would occupy us till GW2 came out or even further. I was a fan of FFXI so was looking forward to this.
RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.
There we go I got a quote to work so you know who i am talking to.... My graphics card is
ATI Radeon HD 3450 I am aware its not great since I ran Aion like crap and went with bargain over performance at the time since I was in the military and didn't get to play much anyways. Now that I am haven a lot more time (and really looking forward to some of the titles on the horizon) I am almost willing to throw some money at my pc but not for 1 game ya know.
RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.
No one is telling you to buy a 200 dollar card. You can get a decent one for 60-80 and then you can pretty much play anything with normal settings
I hear ya, it is painful to just buy a computer and find out that a part in it isn't good enough to run a game you want.
To be fair though, with those two video cards, you'll run into a lot more games that your computer can't run in not too long. Unless of course the games you want to play are easier on the graphics requirements...
Just keep in mind, you can find video cards that will run this game perfectly fine for around $100.
If it was me I wouldn't get anything lower than a GTX 250 or a Radeon 4850, and those sell for around $100. Below that, there's so little drop in price for a huge drop in performance that it isn't really worth it...