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Is you fun ruined by filthy rich ingame brats?
chrisel
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I am a bit curious about this. I try to focus on my own ways of having fun, and give a damn about how or why other are having fun ingame.
Personally I could care less about other people buying whatsoever ingame, as long as it doesn't affect my gaming experience. Are people just jealous, is that it boils down to in the end?
Seriously, if people are having trouble about other people buying vanity items, it says alot more about them than those filthy rich ones. Long time ago I accepted that some are being born in the real life with a silverspoon up where the sun never shines. That is the reality. In fact, most of the people on this earth do think that the monthly subscription fees are too high, and cannot afford it. I am not sure they are having a problem with that anyways...
My fun, is very little dependant on that other strangers vanity pet. How about you? Or is your heart filled with envy?
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im not a brat
...i make my own money
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As long as they cannot buy money or anything which would harm the in-game economy I couldn't care less. I don't even mind XP potions and the like, as long as leveling without them isn't TOO painful. Of course, I tend to avoid games that have a level grind anymore, XP potions or not.
I like the way you insult those type of players in your title while saying it doesn't bother you.
What someone does with their money shouldn't effect you, like it did before you ever met them. I think jealousy is a major part here. They are offering vanity items in WOW. But I hear many going up the roof about it.
Why? Well many said they should have a right to have acces to them wihtout paying for it.
Well I should have the right to stay home all the time and have free room and board, but I don't.
I work a 60+ hour week job to maintain my lifestyle and my family. It's what I chose.
If I want to buy something in an MMO, so be it. I don't have 12 hours a day to play like children or those who chose to eek by on minimum wage.
I work hard for what I get, and I will decide on how I spend it. If it effects others emotionally. Then they need to seek help or stop playing an MMO and work harder to earn a decent living in this world.
I make my own my money too. I can buy gold if I want to, I could buy vanity pets as well. And mounts. If I did so, I do that to up my personal gaming experience. I have met 'brats' who bought the Spectral Tiger (World of Warcraft), and when some asked what mount that was, the "brat" replied; 'Something you never will have'.
I found that person a moron, and so did rest of the server. Did that ruin my gaming experience? No. I could buy that mount too, and considered doing that when it cost 800$ on Ebay. But I did not. I did not consider it worth it. Undoublty, that brat did enjoy it though. The rest of the server did avoid that person like the plague.
Let us not make this into a discussion about WoW brats, this was just an example. The coolest 'pet' I ever had, is actually in Anarchy Online, where I have this massive walking robot I am sitting inside! Call me childish, but I like showing it off to noobs, as I actually really wanted it when I first saw someone riding/driving it!
Make us care MORE about our faction & world pvp!
My heart isn't filled with envy and I don't care about what people buy in these games as long as they aren't buying items that aren't sanctioned by the devs.
so any secondary market items, gold, power leveling, etc.
Well, unless it's a pve game. Then I don't care at all.
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I am not trying intentionally to insult someone, I used that 'term' to get attention.
Brat is not anyone want to be called, and I did not hand that to anyone specifically. Being a brat is something that exists, we know what it means, whterh it is someone from Hollywood, or the west part of Oslo. To me, a brat is someone who gets what he/she points at, with little or no effort. So be it. I do not blame them. You become as you are raised.
Where I live, some children are handed their parents black master card, spending millions if they want to. In the shopping mall. Ok. Fair enoough. If they do that ingame, Good too. More money into the game I play, the better game I expect. I have no problem with people having a pet that is beyond what I would consider a healthy buy.
Just take a look at Project Entropia. An egg there was sold for 60.000$. And didnt an island go for 160.000$? (Bought by an unknown superstar actor?). Anyways. Good for them. In the end. Good for me.
Again. I am not after insulting anyone. Some are being born with royal blood. I cannot prevent that. Accepted. Good luck for them. Or...
Does that ruin my gamin experience? No. I would be a very sorry person if I let that ruin my gaming experience, wouldnt I?
Make us care MORE about our faction & world pvp!
If wallet warriors don't negatively impact my game play (by ruining the ingame economy, or making pvp or group pve impossible), then I don't care how much real money they dump into a game above and beyond the sub cost.
If wallet warriors do negatively impact my game play, then either the game design is flawed, or the game isn't being properly monitored with an eye to perma-banning RMT rulebreakers. Players are going to act like any group of people act, most will put their own interests above the interests of others as a whole, and will behave accordingly if permitted. Therefore, it is the game designers and maintainers who are responsible for ensuring that wallet wars (either sanctioned or illicit) don't ruin gameplay. The WoW sparkle pony had no impact on my gameplay whatsoever and I couldn't have cared less about it. Gold buyers and sellers were another matter.
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No it is not.
I don't play games where character strength is determined by wallet size.
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I don't play games with cash shops, so no, whatever you want to buy on a cash shop game is fine with me. Has zero effect on me. I'll be playing something else.
This.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
For me envy has nothing to do with it. I'll give you the same answer I gave when you asked this in my thread. Yeah sorry I know that's being pretty lazy.
If a games cash shop negatively effects the way a game company produces content for the players who don't use it ( at least in games with a set monthly fee), then yes.
If players being able to buy items, even vanity items, means less game interaction between players since people don't have to do quests or raids for such items, then again yes.
And in the extreme case, if a game has a cash shop that allows players to purchase items that directly effect their characters power, such as weapons and armor and such, and non-cash shop users have no alterative way to gain items of the same value, then most emphatically YES.
And SgtFrog, you make your own money? Isn't that called counterfeiting?
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There lies the flaw with the f2p model.. The rich (or insane) essentially pay for your subscription, giving you your oh so precious free game. Are they getting their money's worth?
Lots of people go on about the awesomeness of the f2p model.. but in reality those people just care about having a free game to play, and not anything to do with the economics of the situation.
In game fluff items like sparkle ponies I actually like, so I can giggle at the people who waste money on them. Pay-to-win Items in game like potion that increase your damage 10% mean I will not play that game. So no I guess is the answer there.
You do seem to have an issue with rich kids though.
Thing is, many of these unstable people who get scammed into paying a craptop in some cash shop are not "rich kids".
There are people with psychological issues that these f2p games are depending on for their income.
And that's kind of sick.
Could you be anymore wrong in your analysis? i mean really? what a load of bull.
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I dont know. Ive seen some pretty wild figures thrown around that some have spent in these F2P games.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
And? you assume they have psychological issues? i have seen people spend crazy amount of money on cars, bikes, clothes etc, i don't call them crazy. Some people just have money to burn on things they like.
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There's an article somewhere, either on mmorpg.com or slashdot, from a few days ago, where one of these mmos are bragging about how they can get 50 bucks a month out of a player on average, in f2p, compared to the 15 of subscription models.
edit: oh, it's not an mmo company, it's a game consultant talking about info obtained from mmo companies:
He claims to have access to ARPPU ('average revenue per paying user' per month) rates among several game developers and states that 'more aggressive monetization model and a loyal, niche userbase can hope to generate $50 per paying user per month, on average,' while 'a F2P game that limits itself to flat subscription revenue and/or non-functional items is generally more likely to fall somewhere between $5 and $10 per paying user per month.'
http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/08/15/1535221/Monetizing-Free-To-Play-Gaming-Models
Honestly, I have more of a problem with the elitist pricks than I do with vanity shoppers. You know, the kind of person that will berate you for experimenting, then put you on ignore when you can articulate a coherent response.
I'm not here to complete my forum PVP dailies.
oh god, i Would never spend $800 on a mount, as much as i love vanity items i will never go past $20-30 for something.
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Whatever, I think these F2P companies need to be strongly regulated by the government to ensure that they are not extorting excessive amounts of money off those players who are unable to control their spending.
Isn't it true for entire consumer industry? why should government regulate only F2P? why not fashion, food, clothing and all those industries which deal in luxury items?
Why should government care how much an indivdual wants to spend on certain item? once again you are making no sense at all.
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What? You can over spend on shoes, or base ball cards. You want the government to regulate your shoe shopping or base ball card collecting? Seriously?
You have to take some responsibility for your spending habits, unless you want to just give all your money to the government and let them decide what you should and shouldn't buy.