2 new Sal Vitas Screenshot had been released today in their new Dev Journal Blog
www.mpogd.com/news/?ID=6885
i am not sure if they upgraded their Engine or not, but their latest Screenshot that they have been releasing looked nicer than the older ones (from 2009)
its that blur effect taht they are using, the game wont have it most likely.
Why not? They dont post process the screenshots, except removing the names...
Whats up with you beeing so negative about ER? Where did it touch you?
your just joined the party to late to know whats up
Right. I think I am around longer then you.. You don't even post on the main forums.
Nor do you post really constructive. You mainly try to bash and attack MHS. Nothing wrong with that, I just want to know why.
If you need to know why, then you havent been longer than me. I dont post on ER forums anymore.
Oh you dont post anymore.
But you are compaining on MMORPG.COM.
Arent you a great guy.
umm yea im complaining here, where i can have alteast some sort of freedom to express my opinions, where my posts dont get locked or deleted by Moll, for having "not" or "dont" and "Earthrise" in the same sentence, or when some forum dwelling fanboy trolls in my thread. That fat woman with no life just gets on my nerves, she bans users or deletes threads for any slight negativity. And I dont post baseless opinions or complaints, i complain about a legitimate issue that is voiced on all ER related forums, even the Bulgarian one.
How can you say that, and write a post like that?
You should take a example of Cavadus. He isnt glad with how things go, and he is keeping it polite, constructive and you can have a discussion with him.
You, on the other hand, look like a spoiled girl who doesnt get a Barbie from their parents.
What are you talking about? Why dont you quote me on something specific instead of underlining irrelevant statements?
My issues with the game:
1. Delay that seems to be due to the overstretch of resources with another project. 2. Lack of information and constant statements about development that have turned out to be false. 3. Forum Mod who shuffles threads and posts like a Chinese prison guard.
Im not the only one concerned about these issues, i may voice them at a different tone, but it stil doesnt change the fact that many MMO players are displeased with this project in one way or another and it will certainly reflect on the future of this game.
and im not going discuss or explain anymore.
PS and im pretty sure Cavadus has been banned on ER forums before and had his constructive posts removed!
2 new Sal Vitas Screenshot had been released today in their new Dev Journal Blog
www.mpogd.com/news/?ID=6885
i am not sure if they upgraded their Engine or not, but their latest Screenshot that they have been releasing looked nicer than the older ones (from 2009)
its that blur effect taht they are using, the game wont have it most likely.
Why not? They dont post process the screenshots, except removing the names...
Whats up with you beeing so negative about ER? Where did it touch you?
your just joined the party to late to know whats up
Right. I think I am around longer then you.. You don't even post on the main forums.
Nor do you post really constructive. You mainly try to bash and attack MHS. Nothing wrong with that, I just want to know why.
If you need to know why, then you havent been longer than me. I dont post on ER forums anymore.
Oh you dont post anymore.
But you are compaining on MMORPG.COM.
Arent you a great guy.
umm yea im complaining here, where i can have alteast some sort of freedom to express my opinions, where my posts dont get locked or deleted by Moll, for having "not" or "dont" and "Earthrise" in the same sentence, or when some forum dwelling fanboy trolls in my thread. That fat woman with no life just gets on my nerves, she bans users or deletes threads for any slight negativity. And I dont post baseless opinions or complaints, i complain about a legitimate issue that is voiced on all ER related forums, even the Bulgarian one.
How can you say that, and write a post like that?
You should take a example of Cavadus. He isnt glad with how things go, and he is keeping it polite, constructive and you can have a discussion with him.
You, on the other hand, look like a spoiled girl who doesnt get a Barbie from their parents.
What are you talking about? Why dont you quote me on something specific instead of underlining irrelevant statements?
My issues with the game:
1. Delay that seems to be due to the overstretch of resources with another project. 2. Lack of information and constant statements about development that have turned out to be false. 3. Forum Mod who shuffles threads and posts like a Chinese prison guard.
Im not the only concerned about these issues, i may voice them at a different tone, but it stil doesnt change the fact that many MMO players are displeased with this project in one way or another and it will certainly reflect on the future of this game.
and im not going discuss or explain anymore.
1. WRONG! The delays are not from over stretching of resources cause of an other project. Lets put that myth to rest. They have said it multiple times and they have been consistent with how they stand. So I don't believe that delays are due to an other project.
2. WHO CARES! It is in development. IF they do not feel right about releasing a video cause the gameplay is not adequate enough then let them delay it. They should only release a video if they are REALLY HAPPY with the gameplay at the current stage. The lack of information is NUTS! They release information about the game every week. Yes it might be very vague but it is still some sort of information and it comes directly from the devs. We also must remember this is not some big company like EA or Blizzard or some other companies that have that extra money to put into PR and marketing.
3. I am really happy that Moll shuffles threads and locks certain threads or else we would have multiple topics about the same damn thing all over the place so instead she puts them into one thread. I am also REALLY happy she locks some threads cause some of them are just plain troll bait and will end up in a flame war.
Be displeased all you want. You have no right to the game and I am sick of tried of hearing people like you thinking you have some sort of right to get what they are asking for. Let it be and stop flaming. If you have nothing constructive to say with no form of proof then do us all a favor and not post because two of the three reasons you state are just plain silly. There is one point you do make but that is up to opinion.
Also if you think Moll is bad try SV or some of the other forums. Moll is not the only community manager that does things like this. I can't even believe you are actually using that as a way to dis MHS/Earthrise.
p.s. Thatim do not even reply to this or Mako. If he wants to be unhappy and flame Earthrise then let it be.
sigh, joker why dont you do us a favor and show proof of the opposite of what i said. I mean can you get any more sadder to use a statement from developers, who have numerously proved to not be trustworthy, as proof? why dont you get out of your stup1d fan-boat and show real proof? Can you be anymore blind and ignorant?
I dont mind a Mod controlling some conversations, but she goes overboard, she doesnt lock or delete YOUR topics because you never say anything negative with your blind faith. Does that mean that there is nothing wrong with the project? no it doesnt! Will deletion of negative comments give a false perception that the game is going smoothly - YES IT WILL! And when theres a brewing flame war in a thread i believe that all involved should be temp banned and not just one person who doesnt show the traits of fanboyism.
sigh, joker why dont you do us a favor and show proof of the opposite of what i said. I mean can you get any more sadder to use a statement from developers, who have numerously proved to not be trustworthy, as proof? why dont you get out of your stup1d fan-boat and show real proof?
Okay... I could turn this around on you and ask you where is your proof of the developers being untrustworthy? Also remember that the game is ACTUALLY in closed beta with community members in it. Don't bring up the video because that is an old lame excuse and is the only excuse that I am sure you can bring up.
My proof is that Ostiak has actually stated a few times that FO is not the reason for the delays. What better proof do you need? A video of them working on Earthrise or something?
I dont mind a Mod controlling some conversations, but she goes overboard, she doesnt lock or delete YOUR topics because you never say anything negative with your blind faith. Does that mean that there is nothing wrong with the project? no it doesnt! Will deletion of negative comments give a false perception that the game is going smoothly - YES IT WILL! And when theres a brewing flame war in a thread i believe that all involved should be temp banned and not just one person who doesnt show the traits of fanboyism.
You are kidding right... Look at this:http://forums.play-earthrise.com/index.php?topic=6946.msg99624#new That is pretty negative to me and yet she has not locked it. For one reason because it is actually constructive criticism! Maybe try going onto the boards and create a thread that is constructive and is not some way of baiting trolls or fans(that means not talk about the development of the game and actually talk about the game itself). BTW I have posted my fair shares of negative comments. Especially towards things that the devs have stated and other forums members have also. Those threads are still open.
sigh, joker why dont you do us a favor and show proof of the opposite of what i said. I mean can you get any more sadder to use a statement from developers, who have numerously proved to not be trustworthy, as proof? why dont you get out of your stup1d fan-boat and show real proof?
Okay... I could turn this around on you and ask you where is your proof of the developers being untrustworthy? Also remember that the game is ACTUALLY in closed beta with community members in it. Don't bring up the video because that is an old lame excuse and is the only excuse that I am sure you can bring up.
My proof is that Ostiak has actually stated a few times that FO is not the reason for the delays. What better proof do you need? A video of them working on Earthrise or something?
Yea game is in beta we all know now, although this REAL closed beta started not too long ago, the anounced closed beta was way earlier. Release for the game was announced to be a year earlier than the current announced date, which will most likely be pushed again, why was there very little physical info about game provided so far,? all this leads to a SUSPICION that the they have been working on something else, it is not a proof but a suspicion, and when people around all boards start to voice it to the point where mods have to come out and publicly say "no, this and that is not true, everything is fine" says that theres something wrong.
Ostiak is believed to be Atanasov himself but thats not the point, you again start using devs statements as proof. - ignorant.
Here are some real life examples to show how ignorant you are to take their word.
Did Supreme Soviets lie to their people that Soviet Union was doing better than ever until it fell?
Did major companies lie to their investors about the income until they went bankrupt, since early 2000?
yes!
Do you understand that as the head of a failing or damaged project/company you WILL lie to your potential investors to keep them interested.
Everything mentioned above doesnt mean that ER is failing but it raises suspicion about the state of its developement, and you can easily expect a surprise of another canceled MMO after it's release.
Can MHS let ER fail? yea it can because they are also working on Interplay's Fallout MMO.
sigh, joker why dont you do us a favor and show proof of the opposite of what i said. I mean can you get any more sadder to use a statement from developers, who have numerously proved to not be trustworthy, as proof? why dont you get out of your stup1d fan-boat and show real proof?
Okay... I could turn this around on you and ask you where is your proof of the developers being untrustworthy? Also remember that the game is ACTUALLY in closed beta with community members in it. Don't bring up the video because that is an old lame excuse and is the only excuse that I am sure you can bring up.
My proof is that Ostiak has actually stated a few times that FO is not the reason for the delays. What better proof do you need? A video of them working on Earthrise or something?
Yea game is in beta we all know now, although this REAL closed beta started not too long ago, the anounced closed beta was way earlier. Release for the game was announced to be a year earlier than the current announced date, which will most likely be pushed again, why was there very little physical info about game provided so far,? all this leads to a SUSPICION that the they have been working on something else, it is not a proof but a suspicion, and when people around all boards start to voice it to the point where mods have to come out and publicly say "no, this and that is not true, everything is fine" says that theres something wrong.
This is all I am going to say:
They are not developing FO! Even interplay has stated that! MHS is only there for support with the engine and also sending in some art work. MHS has VERY little in say of FO next to none the main people who are developing FO is interplay. I mean... come on... you got both Interplay and MHS saying the same things!
I dont mind a Mod controlling some conversations, but she goes overboard, she doesnt lock or delete YOUR topics because you never say anything negative with your blind faith. Does that mean that there is nothing wrong with the project? no it doesnt! Will deletion of negative comments give a false perception that the game is going smoothly - YES IT WILL! And when theres a brewing flame war in a thread i believe that all involved should be temp banned and not just one person who doesnt show the traits of fanboyism.
You are kidding right... Look at this:http://forums.play-earthrise.com/index.php?topic=6946.msg99624#new That is pretty negative to me and yet she has not locked it. For one reason because it is actually constructive criticism! Maybe try going onto the boards and create a thread that is constructive and is not some way of baiting trolls or fans(that means not talk about the development of the game and actually talk about the game itself). BTW I have posted my fair shares of negative comments. Especially towards things that the devs have stated and other forums members have also. Those threads are still open.
I wonder why that specific thread ended up in Off-Topic section for a while, just like many other undesiriable topics? And after i posted a sarcastic comment about it, i got an indefinite read-only ban and a lame explanation from MOll why that topic does not belong in General Discussion. But what do you know, next day after I pmed Moll it came back to General Section with a few deleted posts.
ANd i did post Harabeck's quote that he got from interplay, all in another thread. WHere INterplay says that they have given them more than just support!< Even Harbeck himself made the thread raising his suspicion, before he got into beta.But somehow you manage to read it your own way.
I dont mind a Mod controlling some conversations, but she goes overboard, she doesnt lock or delete YOUR topics because you never say anything negative with your blind faith. Does that mean that there is nothing wrong with the project? no it doesnt! Will deletion of negative comments give a false perception that the game is going smoothly - YES IT WILL! And when theres a brewing flame war in a thread i believe that all involved should be temp banned and not just one person who doesnt show the traits of fanboyism.
You are kidding right... Look at this:http://forums.play-earthrise.com/index.php?topic=6946.msg99624#new That is pretty negative to me and yet she has not locked it. For one reason because it is actually constructive criticism! Maybe try going onto the boards and create a thread that is constructive and is not some way of baiting trolls or fans(that means not talk about the development of the game and actually talk about the game itself). BTW I have posted my fair shares of negative comments. Especially towards things that the devs have stated and other forums members have also. Those threads are still open.
I wonder why that specific thread ended up in Off-Topic section for a while, just like many other undesiriable topics? And after i posted a sarcastic comment about it, i got an indefinite read-only ban and a lame explanation from MOll why that topic does not belong in General Discussion. But what do you know, next day after I pmed Moll it came back to General Section with a few deleted posts.
ANd i did post Harabeck's quote that he got from interplay, all in another thread. WHere INterplay says that they have given them more than just support!< Even Harbeck himself made the thread raising his suspicion, before he got into beta.But somehow you manage to read it your own way.
Did you note where I also said art... Which is the only other thing that Interplay has stated that MHS is helping them with. I would also like to state that they said art concept. Does Earthrise need artists to develop the game? I thought you would need programmers.
P.S. This is silly we both do not know exactly what is going on inside of MHS so it is ridiculous to continue this argument because either one of us could be right or wrong. All I am going to ask you is just take a chill pill and let stuff play out. You are going overboard on something that is just suspicions and I understand you might be unhappy with getting indefinitely banned from posting. However how is Earthrise being moderated different then any of the other companies? Go to AoC, SV, EA, or any other forum they will do the same thing moll does. Except some of them do not care about how many threads of the exact same thing is posted.
Please, you are such a hypocrit. Flaming on Joker and me that we have no proof.
While you have no proof either. Only your "suspicions". Why don't you let it rest? I mean, isnt it funner to follow a game you like and be constructive about it?
You don't like ER or the way it is beeing developed. Okay, to bad for you. But why are you filling the MMORPG forums with hate on ER? It is not like you disagree only.. You seem to have started a crusade.
Especially when you think soviet russia is the same as a gamedeveloper. As lieing to stockholders is the same. No it isnt. Masthead has no reason to lie. They have no stocks. And I dont think they give a rats ass about your opinion. Why? Because you wont pay for the game when it is released. When you pay for them, then they should listen to you.
I dont mind a Mod controlling some conversations, but she goes overboard, she doesnt lock or delete YOUR topics because you never say anything negative with your blind faith. Does that mean that there is nothing wrong with the project? no it doesnt! Will deletion of negative comments give a false perception that the game is going smoothly - YES IT WILL! And when theres a brewing flame war in a thread i believe that all involved should be temp banned and not just one person who doesnt show the traits of fanboyism.
You are kidding right... Look at this:http://forums.play-earthrise.com/index.php?topic=6946.msg99624#new That is pretty negative to me and yet she has not locked it. For one reason because it is actually constructive criticism! Maybe try going onto the boards and create a thread that is constructive and is not some way of baiting trolls or fans(that means not talk about the development of the game and actually talk about the game itself). BTW I have posted my fair shares of negative comments. Especially towards things that the devs have stated and other forums members have also. Those threads are still open.
I wonder why that specific thread ended up in Off-Topic section for a while, just like many other undesiriable topics? And after i posted a sarcastic comment about it, i got an indefinite read-only ban and a lame explanation from MOll why that topic does not belong in General Discussion. But what do you know, next day after I pmed Moll it came back to General Section with a few deleted posts.
ANd i did post Harabeck's quote that he got from interplay, all in another thread. WHere INterplay says that they have given them more than just support!< Even Harbeck himself made the thread raising his suspicion, before he got into beta.But somehow you manage to read it your own way.
Did you note where I also said art... Which is the only other thing that Interplay has stated that MHS is helping them with. I would also like to state that they said art concept. Does Earthrise need artists to develop the game? I thought you would need programmers.
how many .times do i have to reference the ACTUAL quote from Interplay have you even read it urself? instead of quoting other fanboys from ER forum?
Masthead has been sending us all sorts of character models, animations and other bits of art for our comments. They are able to produce an amazing amount of work in a short period of time.
Please, you are such a hypocrit. Flaming on Joker and me that we have no proof.
While you have no proof either. Only your "suspicions". Why don't you let it rest? I mean, isnt it funner to follow a game you like and be constructive about it?
You don't like ER or the way it is beeing developed. Okay, to bad for you. But why are you filling the MMORPG forums with hate on ER? It is not like you disagree only.. You seem to have started a crusade.
Especially when you think soviet russia is the same as a gamedeveloper. As lieing to stockholders is the same. No it isnt. Masthead has no reason to lie. They have no stocks. And I dont think they give a rats ass about your opinion. Why? Because you wont pay for the game when it is released. When you pay for them, then they should listen to you.
Anyways, happy crusading!
thatim im sorry but you are an ******* and a **** !
A system taht depends on support of others is always the same. youre such a *******. and im the hypocrite while i never claimed to have proof while Joker did? please stop making me reply to you by ceasing your unthoughtful posting. There are not enough stars in the whole interweb to describe how ******* you are.
If it doesn't release by their estimated release date, I'm not going to be surprised. A lot of releases get pushed back due to bugs. That's what beta testing is for.
Do I hope it releases in the next couple of months? Of course. This is the only game coming out anytime soon that really has my attention. Am I going to go rampaging all over this forum and theirs if it gets delayed again? No. I can cope with a bug here and there at release, but if there's something major that needs fixing, then they need to fix it before release so it doesn't drive players away from the game.
Funcom released Anarchy Online and Age of Conan before they ironed out some major issues, and they've paid dearly for it. Hopefully a lot of other companies have learned from Funcom's mistakes.
Ironing bugs is what beta testers, and just becuase other devs push their dates further doesnt mean that its acceptable. Some games have done it too many times due to problems, and shutdown their projects soonafter, Darkand LIght.. AO stil has subscribers and was one of the best gamse of the time, AOC had no noticeble bugs but the gmae itself was pure garbage with no freedom.
Point i was trying to make wit this post is that devs are feeding us bullshit time after time.
Who are you to say whats acceptable. Its asshats like you that make NA a graveyard for potentially strong mmo's. Release dates are not set in stone dates they are approximate timelines the devs hope to have THEIR product finished by. If the game is not finished they can't release it.......how hard is that ot understand? Just because you have your panties all tied up in wait for the release date doesn't make it wrong to polish what needs polishing.
I gave up waiting for this a long time ago. When it comes out I will consider then if it holds any interest for me. Till then, I don't even bother worrying/thinking about it.
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i just hope that MHS would just release an info regarding their release date status
im fine with them delaying ER again, i truly am, as this is the only game left that i will truly play and like, so whatever happens, i will always wait
but their statement about releasing it Q4 2010 is to be due soon
and i am sure, that by this time they ALREADY know if ER is going to be release truly before New Year or they are going to delay it, im sure they already know
and its just a matter of why isn't MHS wanting to say something about the release or even OB
all that said, i still have hopes for them to clinch this one before 2011
I just hope they get it out before TOR and GW2, and TERA and Rift as well, because all those games have the potential to steal playerbase. Not because its a similar sci-fi theme or shooter, but simply because most of the people not playing WoW or FF games are dieing for a new mmo, and could easily get hooked on any of the above.
i just hope that MHS would just release an info regarding their release date status
im fine with them delaying ER again, i truly am, as this is the only game left that i will truly play and like, so whatever happens, i will always wait
but their statement about releasing it Q4 2010 is to be due soon
and i am sure, that by this time they ALREADY know if ER is going to be release truly before New Year or they are going to delay it, im sure they already know
and its just a matter of why isn't MHS wanting to say something about the release or even OB
all that said, i still have hopes for them to clinch this one before 2011
agree completely, i don't care how far back they push the launch, it's their game and they're going to do whats best for them. What I can't stand and I do hold against the mmo companies is unrealistic launch dates that they wait until the last minute tochange. That DOES affect me, as I may push off another game that interests me in the meantime, only to find out that Q4 launch date isn't going to happen on Dec 1st
i just hope that MHS would just release an info regarding their release date status
im fine with them delaying ER again, i truly am, as this is the only game left that i will truly play and like, so whatever happens, i will always wait
but their statement about releasing it Q4 2010 is to be due soon
and i am sure, that by this time they ALREADY know if ER is going to be release truly before New Year or they are going to delay it, im sure they already know
and its just a matter of why isn't MHS wanting to say something about the release or even OB
all that said, i still have hopes for them to clinch this one before 2011
agree completely, i don't care how far back they push the launch, it's their game and they're going to do whats best for them. What I can't stand and I do hold against the mmo companies is unrealistic launch dates that they wait until the last minute tochange. That DOES affect me, as I may push off another game that interests me in the meantime, only to find out that Q4 launch date isn't going to happen on Dec 1st
p.s. no way in hell this launches in 2010 now.
well, in some way ( even the smalles possible ) they can still release before entering 2011
if:
1) During sometime in November, they announce OB which may last 2 week and a mid December release
2) They are statisfied with the CB feedback and gameplay and go for straight to Commercial without going OB
3) Last Minute OB and release on December 31
this is what i hope
or they can just put some consideration on putting some news for their faithful fans to not wait this 2 months for a product that isn't going to be released as stated, and hoping not to lose out a potential player / ( income ) for them
because it's sad that most people are slowly not even following this game anymore
i just hope that MHS would just release an info regarding their release date status
im fine with them delaying ER again, i truly am, as this is the only game left that i will truly play and like, so whatever happens, i will always wait
but their statement about releasing it Q4 2010 is to be due soon
and i am sure, that by this time they ALREADY know if ER is going to be release truly before New Year or they are going to delay it, im sure they already know
and its just a matter of why isn't MHS wanting to say something about the release or even OB
all that said, i still have hopes for them to clinch this one before 2011
agree completely, i don't care how far back they push the launch, it's their game and they're going to do whats best for them. What I can't stand and I do hold against the mmo companies is unrealistic launch dates that they wait until the last minute tochange. That DOES affect me, as I may push off another game that interests me in the meantime, only to find out that Q4 launch date isn't going to happen on Dec 1st
p.s. no way in hell this launches in 2010 now.
well, in some way ( even the smalles possible ) they can still release before entering 2011
if:
1) During sometime in November, they announce OB which may last 2 week and a mid December release
2) They are statisfied with the CB feedback and gameplay and go for straight to Commercial without going OB
3) Last Minute OB and release on December 31
this is what i hope
or they can just put some consideration on putting some news for their faithful fans to not wait this 2 months for a product that isn't going to be released as stated, and hoping not to lose out a potential player / ( income ) for them
because it's sad that most people are slowly not even following this game anymore
So true, with all the bright, shiny new titles on the near horizon most everyone's focus is turned away from ER.
But if they do release a good game, people will eventually notice it again.
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If it doesn't release by their estimated release date, I'm not going to be surprised. A lot of releases get pushed back due to bugs. That's what beta testing is for.
Do I hope it releases in the next couple of months? Of course. This is the only game coming out anytime soon that really has my attention. Am I going to go rampaging all over this forum and theirs if it gets delayed again? No. I can cope with a bug here and there at release, but if there's something major that needs fixing, then they need to fix it before release so it doesn't drive players away from the game.
Funcom released Anarchy Online and Age of Conan before they ironed out some major issues, and they've paid dearly for it. Hopefully a lot of other companies have learned from Funcom's mistakes.
Ironing bugs is what beta testers, and just becuase other devs push their dates further doesnt mean that its acceptable. Some games have done it too many times due to problems, and shutdown their projects soonafter, Darkand LIght.. AO stil has subscribers and was one of the best gamse of the time, AOC had no noticeble bugs but the gmae itself was pure garbage with no freedom.
Point i was trying to make wit this post is that devs are feeding us bullshit time after time.
Who are you to say whats acceptable. Its asshats like you that make NA a graveyard for potentially strong mmo's. Release dates are not set in stone dates they are approximate timelines the devs hope to have THEIR product finished by. If the game is not finished they can't release it.......how hard is that ot understand? Just because you have your panties all tied up in wait for the release date doesn't make it wrong to polish what needs polishing.
I gave up waiting for this a long time ago. When it comes out I will consider then if it holds any interest for me. Till then, I don't even bother worrying/thinking about it.
The best you could do. Many like you have done the same, original forums members dont even post anymore, but dont tell that to fanboys theyll tell you taht forums are full of original members. Anyway i wouldve done same thing and just forgot about it, but this seems to be the only MMO i would like to play in the future and dont feel like just letting it slip into the back of my mind just yet.
I just hope they get it out before TOR and GW2, and TERA and Rift as well, because all those games have the potential to steal playerbase. Not because its a similar sci-fi theme or shooter, but simply because most of the people not playing WoW or FF games are dieing for a new mmo, and could easily get hooked on any of the above.
I totally agree, that is another reason why ER could lose a good chunk of player base, ive said it before.
I would also play a buggy game that is PLAYABLE, and wouldnt mind having patches here and there after release, no MMO is immune to bugs anyway. As long as the game mechanics are enjoyable and are truely sandbox, people wont mind bugs. Im really tired of hearing lame excuse such as " you wouldnt want to play a buggy game" yea I fkn would and so would you.
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What are you talking about? Why dont you quote me on something specific instead of underlining irrelevant statements?
My issues with the game:
1. Delay that seems to be due to the overstretch of resources with another project. 2. Lack of information and constant statements about development that have turned out to be false. 3. Forum Mod who shuffles threads and posts like a Chinese prison guard.
Im not the only one concerned about these issues, i may voice them at a different tone, but it stil doesnt change the fact that many MMO players are displeased with this project in one way or another and it will certainly reflect on the future of this game.
and im not going discuss or explain anymore.
PS and im pretty sure Cavadus has been banned on ER forums before and had his constructive posts removed!
1. WRONG! The delays are not from over stretching of resources cause of an other project. Lets put that myth to rest. They have said it multiple times and they have been consistent with how they stand. So I don't believe that delays are due to an other project.
2. WHO CARES! It is in development. IF they do not feel right about releasing a video cause the gameplay is not adequate enough then let them delay it. They should only release a video if they are REALLY HAPPY with the gameplay at the current stage. The lack of information is NUTS! They release information about the game every week. Yes it might be very vague but it is still some sort of information and it comes directly from the devs. We also must remember this is not some big company like EA or Blizzard or some other companies that have that extra money to put into PR and marketing.
3. I am really happy that Moll shuffles threads and locks certain threads or else we would have multiple topics about the same damn thing all over the place so instead she puts them into one thread. I am also REALLY happy she locks some threads cause some of them are just plain troll bait and will end up in a flame war.
Be displeased all you want. You have no right to the game and I am sick of tried of hearing people like you thinking you have some sort of right to get what they are asking for. Let it be and stop flaming. If you have nothing constructive to say with no form of proof then do us all a favor and not post because two of the three reasons you state are just plain silly. There is one point you do make but that is up to opinion.
Also if you think Moll is bad try SV or some of the other forums. Moll is not the only community manager that does things like this. I can't even believe you are actually using that as a way to dis MHS/Earthrise.
p.s. Thatim do not even reply to this or Mako. If he wants to be unhappy and flame Earthrise then let it be.
sigh, joker why dont you do us a favor and show proof of the opposite of what i said. I mean can you get any more sadder to use a statement from developers, who have numerously proved to not be trustworthy, as proof? why dont you get out of your stup1d fan-boat and show real proof? Can you be anymore blind and ignorant?
I dont mind a Mod controlling some conversations, but she goes overboard, she doesnt lock or delete YOUR topics because you never say anything negative with your blind faith. Does that mean that there is nothing wrong with the project? no it doesnt! Will deletion of negative comments give a false perception that the game is going smoothly - YES IT WILL! And when theres a brewing flame war in a thread i believe that all involved should be temp banned and not just one person who doesnt show the traits of fanboyism.
Okay... I could turn this around on you and ask you where is your proof of the developers being untrustworthy? Also remember that the game is ACTUALLY in closed beta with community members in it. Don't bring up the video because that is an old lame excuse and is the only excuse that I am sure you can bring up.
My proof is that Ostiak has actually stated a few times that FO is not the reason for the delays. What better proof do you need? A video of them working on Earthrise or something?
You are kidding right... Look at this:http://forums.play-earthrise.com/index.php?topic=6946.msg99624#new That is pretty negative to me and yet she has not locked it. For one reason because it is actually constructive criticism! Maybe try going onto the boards and create a thread that is constructive and is not some way of baiting trolls or fans(that means not talk about the development of the game and actually talk about the game itself). BTW I have posted my fair shares of negative comments. Especially towards things that the devs have stated and other forums members have also. Those threads are still open.
Yea game is in beta we all know now, although this REAL closed beta started not too long ago, the anounced closed beta was way earlier. Release for the game was announced to be a year earlier than the current announced date, which will most likely be pushed again, why was there very little physical info about game provided so far,? all this leads to a SUSPICION that the they have been working on something else, it is not a proof but a suspicion, and when people around all boards start to voice it to the point where mods have to come out and publicly say "no, this and that is not true, everything is fine" says that theres something wrong.
Ostiak is believed to be Atanasov himself but thats not the point, you again start using devs statements as proof. - ignorant.
Here are some real life examples to show how ignorant you are to take their word.
Did Supreme Soviets lie to their people that Soviet Union was doing better than ever until it fell?
Did major companies lie to their investors about the income until they went bankrupt, since early 2000?
yes!
Do you understand that as the head of a failing or damaged project/company you WILL lie to your potential investors to keep them interested.
Everything mentioned above doesnt mean that ER is failing but it raises suspicion about the state of its developement, and you can easily expect a surprise of another canceled MMO after it's release.
Can MHS let ER fail? yea it can because they are also working on Interplay's Fallout MMO.
This is all I am going to say:
They are not developing FO! Even interplay has stated that! MHS is only there for support with the engine and also sending in some art work. MHS has VERY little in say of FO next to none the main people who are developing FO is interplay. I mean... come on... you got both Interplay and MHS saying the same things!
I wonder why that specific thread ended up in Off-Topic section for a while, just like many other undesiriable topics? And after i posted a sarcastic comment about it, i got an indefinite read-only ban and a lame explanation from MOll why that topic does not belong in General Discussion. But what do you know, next day after I pmed Moll it came back to General Section with a few deleted posts.
ANd i did post Harabeck's quote that he got from interplay, all in another thread. WHere INterplay says that they have given them more than just support!< Even Harbeck himself made the thread raising his suspicion, before he got into beta.But somehow you manage to read it your own way.
Did you note where I also said art... Which is the only other thing that Interplay has stated that MHS is helping them with. I would also like to state that they said art concept. Does Earthrise need artists to develop the game? I thought you would need programmers.
P.S. This is silly we both do not know exactly what is going on inside of MHS so it is ridiculous to continue this argument because either one of us could be right or wrong. All I am going to ask you is just take a chill pill and let stuff play out. You are going overboard on something that is just suspicions and I understand you might be unhappy with getting indefinitely banned from posting. However how is Earthrise being moderated different then any of the other companies? Go to AoC, SV, EA, or any other forum they will do the same thing moll does. Except some of them do not care about how many threads of the exact same thing is posted.
Mako.
Please, you are such a hypocrit. Flaming on Joker and me that we have no proof.
While you have no proof either. Only your "suspicions". Why don't you let it rest? I mean, isnt it funner to follow a game you like and be constructive about it?
You don't like ER or the way it is beeing developed. Okay, to bad for you. But why are you filling the MMORPG forums with hate on ER? It is not like you disagree only.. You seem to have started a crusade.
Especially when you think soviet russia is the same as a gamedeveloper. As lieing to stockholders is the same. No it isnt. Masthead has no reason to lie. They have no stocks. And I dont think they give a rats ass about your opinion. Why? Because you wont pay for the game when it is released. When you pay for them, then they should listen to you.
Anyways, happy crusading!
how many .times do i have to reference the ACTUAL quote from Interplay have you even read it urself? instead of quoting other fanboys from ER forum?
Masthead has been sending us all sorts of character models, animations and other bits of art for our comments. They are able to produce an amazing amount of work in a short period of time.
http://interplay.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5321
thatim im sorry but you are an ******* and a **** !
A system taht depends on support of others is always the same. youre such a *******. and im the hypocrite while i never claimed to have proof while Joker did? please stop making me reply to you by ceasing your unthoughtful posting. There are not enough stars in the whole interweb to describe how ******* you are.
Who are you to say whats acceptable. Its asshats like you that make NA a graveyard for potentially strong mmo's. Release dates are not set in stone dates they are approximate timelines the devs hope to have THEIR product finished by. If the game is not finished they can't release it.......how hard is that ot understand? Just because you have your panties all tied up in wait for the release date doesn't make it wrong to polish what needs polishing.
I gave up waiting for this a long time ago. When it comes out I will consider then if it holds any interest for me. Till then, I don't even bother worrying/thinking about it.
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i just hope that MHS would just release an info regarding their release date status
im fine with them delaying ER again, i truly am, as this is the only game left that i will truly play and like, so whatever happens, i will always wait
but their statement about releasing it Q4 2010 is to be due soon
and i am sure, that by this time they ALREADY know if ER is going to be release truly before New Year or they are going to delay it, im sure they already know
and its just a matter of why isn't MHS wanting to say something about the release or even OB
all that said, i still have hopes for them to clinch this one before 2011
So What Now?
Not bothered about the wait, not that bothered about the game.
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I just hope they get it out before TOR and GW2, and TERA and Rift as well, because all those games have the potential to steal playerbase. Not because its a similar sci-fi theme or shooter, but simply because most of the people not playing WoW or FF games are dieing for a new mmo, and could easily get hooked on any of the above.
agree completely, i don't care how far back they push the launch, it's their game and they're going to do whats best for them. What I can't stand and I do hold against the mmo companies is unrealistic launch dates that they wait until the last minute tochange. That DOES affect me, as I may push off another game that interests me in the meantime, only to find out that Q4 launch date isn't going to happen on Dec 1st
p.s. no way in hell this launches in 2010 now.
well, in some way ( even the smalles possible ) they can still release before entering 2011
if:
1) During sometime in November, they announce OB which may last 2 week and a mid December release
2) They are statisfied with the CB feedback and gameplay and go for straight to Commercial without going OB
3) Last Minute OB and release on December 31
this is what i hope
or they can just put some consideration on putting some news for their faithful fans to not wait this 2 months for a product that isn't going to be released as stated, and hoping not to lose out a potential player / ( income ) for them
because it's sad that most people are slowly not even following this game anymore
So What Now?
So true, with all the bright, shiny new titles on the near horizon most everyone's focus is turned away from ER.
But if they do release a good game, people will eventually notice it again.
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me and all my buddies cant wait!
hope this game will be nice and complex sandbox yay
r3tard
The best you could do. Many like you have done the same, original forums members dont even post anymore, but dont tell that to fanboys theyll tell you taht forums are full of original members. Anyway i wouldve done same thing and just forgot about it, but this seems to be the only MMO i would like to play in the future and dont feel like just letting it slip into the back of my mind just yet.
I totally agree, that is another reason why ER could lose a good chunk of player base, ive said it before.
I would also play a buggy game that is PLAYABLE, and wouldnt mind having patches here and there after release, no MMO is immune to bugs anyway. As long as the game mechanics are enjoyable and are truely sandbox, people wont mind bugs. Im really tired of hearing lame excuse such as " you wouldnt want to play a buggy game" yea I fkn would and so would you.
M4ko, if you look back at you post history in MMORPG.COM..
Dont you find yourself a little bit sad? Just askin'.
And dont start crying about that I am making it personal again. You are writing posts to me full of profiant and you are calling people r3tard.