Well, IGN and Gamespot tend to do a rather good job compared to most other sites. Least my tastes tend to fit within the majority of theirs far as games I like or don't like. I do think the game was probably treated a bit harsher than if the same product was released by someone other than SE. I got the sense that the reviewer expected better from a company of SE's stature and rated it a bit harsher because of this. Not saying it was wrong to do so just the feeling I got from the article. It's a shame really. It just seems to me like they released the game way sooner than they should have.
I think at this point I'm just going to hold off on this game. Maybe revisit it 6 to 12 months from now to see what they have added and improved.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
So Gamespot gives 4.0 to FFXIV, I think 4.0 for the contents because if its something about interface and account setting, it shouldnt be more than 3.0
The UI lag is especially noticable when compared to FFXI as seen in this video.
I'm curious to what went wrong, it feels as if it was a different company that worked on XIV and reused ideas from XI.
Well, you are close actually...
(I really need to find that interview again...) But it was stated in an interview with Tanaka that the FFXIV team believed they had 'the better mmo design' than what the FFXI team had done. Tanaka was the producer for FFXIV, the game was under the direction of someone else this time.
To me it looks like the new team bit off way more than they could chew.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
This guy spent 15 hours on the game. They also give many games unjust reviews. Now IGN is doing a very in depth review on FFXIV spanning several weeks, if IGN chooses to give FFXIV a 4 I will accept that review and respect it. I don't really like Gamespots reviewing style on any game really, they always glorify turds if the public is praising them, and they always shoot down games if the public is doing the same. They just follow the public in my opinion. IGN > Gamespot
This guy spent 15 hours on the game. They also give many games unjust reviews. Now IGN is doing avery in depth review on FFXIV spanning several weeks, if IGN chooses to give FFXIV a 4 I will accept that review and respect it. I don't really like Gamespots reviewing style on any game really, they always glorify turds if the public is praising them, and they always shoot down games if the public is doing the same. They just follow the public in my opinion. IGN > Gamespot
LOL, Ok, I'll buy that for now...with a grain of salt due to similar such remarks regarding other games. So, let us wait for the other reviews and see how it stacks up. Then again boss, by your own statement the public is making such reviews and if they public is making such remarks and the review is making the same remarks than one has to take the perverbial moment of pause and ask, "are these facts they are reporting or are all these people, for whatever reason, just making up things to make a great game look bad?"
In the end it really does not matter does it? I mean, if you like the game you will play it anyway so what is the point of defending it against the public and game review sites who are telling lies about the game?
This guy spent 15 hours on the game. They also give many games unjust reviews. Now IGN is doing avery in depth review on FFXIV spanning several weeks, if IGN chooses to give FFXIV a 4 I will accept that review and respect it. I don't really like Gamespots reviewing style on any game really, they always glorify turds if the public is praising them, and they always shoot down games if the public is doing the same. They just follow the public in my opinion. IGN > Gamespot
LOL, Ok, I'll buy that for now...with a grain of salt due to similar such remarks regarding other games. So, let us wait for the other reviews and see how it stacks up. Then again boss, by your own statement the public is making such reviews and if they public is making such remarks and the review is making the same remarks than one has to take the perverbial moment of pause and ask, "are these facts they are reporting or are all these people, for whatever reason, just making up things to make a great game look bad?"
In the end it really does not matter does it? I mean, if you like the game you will play it anyway so what is the point of defending it against the public and game review sites who are telling lies about the game?
There is a thing called sound bites and the bandwagon, the public is a highly influenced autonomous being. A majority of the people commenting have little or no time on the game but join the bandwagon anyways. I am just saying if the review has merit, I will accept it. Gamespot's review has little merit and is ill-devised. IGNs review, whether it ends up being a good or bad conclusion is solid and with great merit, and thus is worth taking a look at. So if IGN calls this game the biggest piece of crap to ever exist, I will accept it, because they took their time to explore all aspects of the game thoroughly. Understand?
This guy spent 15 hours on the game. They also give many games unjust reviews. Now IGN is doing a very in depth review on FFXIV spanning several weeks, if IGN chooses to give FFXIV a 4 I will accept that review and respect it. I don't really like Gamespots reviewing style on any game really, they always glorify turds if the public is praising them, and they always shoot down games if the public is doing the same. They just follow the public in my opinion. IGN > Gamespot
Isn't that a good thing?
Their reviews reflect how the majority of the people think about a game, so it can be used as a precise mesuring tool.
I'm confused as what you are trying to say here tbh.
As you probably know, MMOs are not small games. They take a long time to learn and play since they are, by nature, meant to last for years, not just seven to ten hours. That's why it often takes a number of weeks for reviews of these types of games to appear on IGN. It's not that we've forgotten about or are ignoring the product, but we need to put in the appropriate amount of hours to be able to deliver a review.
Instead of having only a few updates appear on the site until the review is ready, for Final Fantasy XIV we're trying something a little different. In this article you'll find daily updates about various aspects of the game. If you're curious about questing, dungeons, classes, the general structure of the world, or other details that potentially wouldn't make it into the final review, read on. And if you're on the fence about whether or not to pick up the game and the information you're looking for isn't covered in the updates, let us know in the comments below and we'll try to check into it.
This guy spent 15 hours on the game. They also give many games unjust reviews. Now IGN is doing a very in depth review on FFXIV spanning several weeks, if IGN chooses to give FFXIV a 4 I will accept that review and respect it. I don't really like Gamespots reviewing style on any game really, they always glorify turds if the public is praising them, and they always shoot down games if the public is doing the same. They just follow the public in my opinion. IGN > Gamespot
Isn't that a good thing?
Their reviews reflect how the majority of the people think about a game, so it can be used as a precise mesuring tool.
I'm confused as what you are trying to say here tbh.
A reviewer is supposed to give a non-biased opinion of a game. Without any influence of the public or own tastes.
This guy spent 15 hours on the game. They also give many games unjust reviews. Now IGN is doing a very in depth review on FFXIV spanning several weeks, if IGN chooses to give FFXIV a 4 I will accept that review and respect it. I don't really like Gamespots reviewing style on any game really, they always glorify turds if the public is praising them, and they always shoot down games if the public is doing the same. They just follow the public in my opinion. IGN > Gamespot
Isn't that a good thing?
Their reviews reflect how the majority of the people think about a game, so it can be used as a precise mesuring tool.
I'm confused as what you are trying to say here tbh.
A reviewer is supposed to give a non-biased opinion of a game. Without any influence of the public or own tastes.
Aha, so MisterSr means with his sentence that the reviewer based his review on how the public perceives the game?
This guy spent 15 hours on the game. They also give many games unjust reviews. Now IGN is doing a very in depth review on FFXIV spanning several weeks, if IGN chooses to give FFXIV a 4 I will accept that review and respect it. I don't really like Gamespots reviewing style on any game really, they always glorify turds if the public is praising them, and they always shoot down games if the public is doing the same. They just follow the public in my opinion. IGN > Gamespot
Isn't that a good thing?
Their reviews reflect how the majority of the people think about a game, so it can be used as a precise mesuring tool.
I'm confused as what you are trying to say here tbh.
A reviewer is supposed to give a non-biased opinion of a game. Without any influence of the public or own tastes.
Aha, so MisterSr means with his sentence that the reviewer based his review on how the public perceives the game?
If so, this would indeed be a bad thing for sure.
But is this fact?!
Good luck to him proving that xD. It's just his opinion of the site and it's staff.
I, personally, never look at one reviewer as "the whole truth". I usually read multiple reviews on sites and in magazines and form an opinion based on that.
Surely the point of reveiws is to rate the game BEFORE its released, so people know whether its worth buying. Agreeing with popular opinion serves no purpose.
Just wish i'd read the gamespot verdict and saved myself 20 quid.
This guy spent 15 hours on the game. They also give many games unjust reviews. Now IGN is doing a very in depth review on FFXIV spanning several weeks, if IGN chooses to give FFXIV a 4 I will accept that review and respect it. I don't really like Gamespots reviewing style on any game really, they always glorify turds if the public is praising them, and they always shoot down games if the public is doing the same. They just follow the public in my opinion. IGN > Gamespot
I don't agree with this. Gamespot never follow the trends. A recent example was the latest transformers game, everyone praised it and if you look at the user reviews most of them disagree with gamespots review. They even had adverts for the game on their site when they gave it a 6.5. The latest dragon age expansion is another example.
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Surely the point of reveiws is to rate the game BEFORE its released, so people know whether its worth buying. Agreeing with popular opinion serves no purpose.
Just wish i'd read the gamespot verdict and saved myself 20 quid.
Actually you got it backwards. A REVIEW is a feature on a released title, while a PREVIEW is about an unreleased one.
They don't charge any more than most mmo's. it's 12.99 a month and $50 since a brand new game. Am i missing something here?
Wasn't it like 9 bucks subscription for the game and then 3 bucks for each character slot? Meaning that if just playing with 1 character, you'd be paying 12 bucks, but 15 with 2 character slots?
Yes and some games do charge $15 a month. And, unlike most games you really only need character to play every aspect of the game.
Need? Gaming has nothing to do with need, I dont need to play any games at all. However I want to play games and I want more than one character slot. Why? I dont know, want to have a different look? Different name? Different race? Whatever, who cares?
Charging extra for anything more than 1 character slot and also not a one time fee but a monthly one is beyond greedy.
Glad to see I've made a lot of the haters here very happy with my initial misunderstanding based off the wierd issue with the way GameSpot does their content distribution leading to that initial misconception.
Anywho, you guys have your first negative professional review. Seems I jumped the gun to assume the average was going to be 8.0 or higher after seeing the Cheat Code Central review's 8.4. Go pop a champaign cork, vindication is yours at last, it's party time for you.
Here are the exact words from the review you use as an example:
We can’t recommend that you spend $50, and then $12.99 a month after the first 30 days, on a title that has as many flaws as FFXIV does.
With a comment like that at the end of the review and a score like that it makes me suspect that that score is bought and paid for.
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Well, IGN and Gamespot tend to do a rather good job compared to most other sites. Least my tastes tend to fit within the majority of theirs far as games I like or don't like. I do think the game was probably treated a bit harsher than if the same product was released by someone other than SE. I got the sense that the reviewer expected better from a company of SE's stature and rated it a bit harsher because of this. Not saying it was wrong to do so just the feeling I got from the article. It's a shame really. It just seems to me like they released the game way sooner than they should have.
I think at this point I'm just going to hold off on this game. Maybe revisit it 6 to 12 months from now to see what they have added and improved.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
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So Gamespot gives 4.0 to FFXIV, I think 4.0 for the contents because if its something about interface and account setting, it shouldnt be more than 3.0
I think its a fair review. I'll still play to see what the next couple patches bring but if they don't change their direction then I'll go elsewhere.
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So funny, you can see the UI lag in the video review !
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The UI lag is especially noticable when compared to FFXI as seen in this video.
I'm curious to what went wrong, it feels as if it was a different company that worked on XIV and reused ideas from XI.
Well, you are close actually...
(I really need to find that interview again...) But it was stated in an interview with Tanaka that the FFXIV team believed they had 'the better mmo design' than what the FFXI team had done. Tanaka was the producer for FFXIV, the game was under the direction of someone else this time.
To me it looks like the new team bit off way more than they could chew.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
This guy spent 15 hours on the game. They also give many games unjust reviews. Now IGN is doing a very in depth review on FFXIV spanning several weeks, if IGN chooses to give FFXIV a 4 I will accept that review and respect it. I don't really like Gamespots reviewing style on any game really, they always glorify turds if the public is praising them, and they always shoot down games if the public is doing the same. They just follow the public in my opinion. IGN > Gamespot
LOL, Ok, I'll buy that for now...with a grain of salt due to similar such remarks regarding other games. So, let us wait for the other reviews and see how it stacks up. Then again boss, by your own statement the public is making such reviews and if they public is making such remarks and the review is making the same remarks than one has to take the perverbial moment of pause and ask, "are these facts they are reporting or are all these people, for whatever reason, just making up things to make a great game look bad?"
In the end it really does not matter does it? I mean, if you like the game you will play it anyway so what is the point of defending it against the public and game review sites who are telling lies about the game?
There is a thing called sound bites and the bandwagon, the public is a highly influenced autonomous being. A majority of the people commenting have little or no time on the game but join the bandwagon anyways. I am just saying if the review has merit, I will accept it. Gamespot's review has little merit and is ill-devised. IGNs review, whether it ends up being a good or bad conclusion is solid and with great merit, and thus is worth taking a look at. So if IGN calls this game the biggest piece of crap to ever exist, I will accept it, because they took their time to explore all aspects of the game thoroughly. Understand?
ok, but gamespot have bad reputation that only put good calification when the company pay them for good score
like halo have 10 or outher easy game with 10
anyway the troll just dance
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Isn't that a good thing?
Their reviews reflect how the majority of the people think about a game, so it can be used as a precise mesuring tool.
I'm confused as what you are trying to say here tbh.
check this out:
This is what IGN has to think of it. http://pc.ign.com
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As you probably know, MMOs are not small games. They take a long time to learn and play since they are, by nature, meant to last for years, not just seven to ten hours. That's why it often takes a number of weeks for reviews of these types of games to appear on IGN. It's not that we've forgotten about or are ignoring the product, but we need to put in the appropriate amount of hours to be able to deliver a review.
Instead of having only a few updates appear on the site until the review is ready, for Final Fantasy XIV we're trying something a little different. In this article you'll find daily updates about various aspects of the game. If you're curious about questing, dungeons, classes, the general structure of the world, or other details that potentially wouldn't make it into the final review, read on. And if you're on the fence about whether or not to pick up the game and the information you're looking for isn't covered in the updates, let us know in the comments below and we'll try to check into it.
Read more: http://pc.ign.com/articles/112/1123824p1.html#ixzz11khehLoL
A reviewer is supposed to give a non-biased opinion of a game. Without any influence of the public or own tastes.
Aha, so MisterSr means with his sentence that the reviewer based his review on how the public perceives the game?
If so, this would indeed be a bad thing for sure.
But is this fact?!
Good luck to him proving that xD. It's just his opinion of the site and it's staff.
I, personally, never look at one reviewer as "the whole truth". I usually read multiple reviews on sites and in magazines and form an opinion based on that.
Surely the point of reveiws is to rate the game BEFORE its released, so people know whether its worth buying. Agreeing with popular opinion serves no purpose.
Just wish i'd read the gamespot verdict and saved myself 20 quid.
4/10 Sound's about right for this game at the moment.
I don't agree with this. Gamespot never follow the trends. A recent example was the latest transformers game, everyone praised it and if you look at the user reviews most of them disagree with gamespots review. They even had adverts for the game on their site when they gave it a 6.5. The latest dragon age expansion is another example.
Actually you got it backwards. A REVIEW is a feature on a released title, while a PREVIEW is about an unreleased one.
This baby needs to stay on the front page so that everyone that hasn't already bought the game, can see what they might be getting themselves into
Need? Gaming has nothing to do with need, I dont need to play any games at all. However I want to play games and I want more than one character slot. Why? I dont know, want to have a different look? Different name? Different race? Whatever, who cares?
Charging extra for anything more than 1 character slot and also not a one time fee but a monthly one is beyond greedy.
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With a comment like that at the end of the review and a score like that it makes me suspect that that score is bought and paid for.