I have no idea why Eve has such loyal followers. I tried it and it seemed like its awesome if you like to farm ore and craft things, but other than that it was boring.
And saying WOW is a hyundai and that eve is a porsche is so skewed. Have you actaully played wow? It is a great game, the mechanics work and the movement is fluid and things are decently clear and easy to understand.
I'm not a WoW fanboi by any means...I am constantly looking for something worth paying a subscription fee and haven't came across much. I'll get hyped for a game and then I'll buy it or get into beta and it isn't nearly as well made and I get bummed.
With all that said I am an ex SWG vet (My very first MMO), and I loved SWG till NGE and quit. I am super hyped about SW:TOR and I'm gonna buy it when it comes out. I just hope it plays as smoothly in game as wow ( Like the movement and ability to freeroam).
Anyone saying that the hype-o-meter of this site is broken is a total dumbass. There are haters and fanbois to like/dislike every game out there. The balance on fanbois/gamers/haters depends on the game itself and on the marketing strategy of the company. If GW2 is almost reaching 9.0 rating there is a reason for it:
The game is solid, being in development for a long time now.
ArenaNET is a known developer, and it's releasing info in an insane pace compared to other mmos.
The Guild Wars IP had already ton of followers (10% fanbois, 90% satisfied customers).
The bold statements (and the delivering of it until now) made by the team will keep atracting more unaware gamers.
Say what you want, Guild Wars 2 is this hyped because it is almost impossible to hate it: there is almost no aspect of the game that is not good in the papers. We will know more about in the future. On the bad side though, i've never seen such amount of people turning into blind fanbois over a game, even with the previous experiences on hyped games.
Now with SW:TOR, there are plenty of reasons to hate it, and the main reason is: people want another type of Star Wars game, and Bioware already stated they aren't following that path. Horrid animations and graphics aside, until people get over the fact that they won't have anoter swg pre-cu, the hype on this game will be going down the hill because of the excessive amount of haters. I'm not saying that the game won't be good though, i'm probably buying it along with GW2 and Cata.
At last, just remember, hype is what it is: HYPE! It doesn't measures if the game will be good or not, it measures the excitement of people around a yet unreleased game. And when it comes to HUMAN EXCITEMENT, being rational is not on the table (for most people, that's why its called excitement), it's about emotion. If people are feeling angry because they are not getting what they want, then too bad for Bioware (although i believe they knew what they were getting into when they picked the SW IP): you now have plenty of work to do and things to show us if you want to turn this situation around.
No offense, I enjoyed reading your post but honestly.. f**k the hype meter on this website. How many games have been hyped on this website only to be complete epic failures upon release? I can name 3-4 myself. Tabula Rasa, so horrible it was shut down after what? a year? Aion, hyped to hell on here.... I played it for a month before cancelling. WAR - ultra hyped and where is it now?
This is my opinion but MMORPG is a place where lots of nerdy hardcore MMO'ers come to voice their opinions and support the non-AAA games. Like indie music fan sites who hate the mainstream music and support the bands who don't sell out. This site has a wretched track record for hyping games that crash and burn. It's also anti-wow quite a bit more than it's pro-wow even though WoW is the most successful MMO in history as far as paying subs go.
That's why i say the hype meter of mmorpg.com is not broken, the concept of hype is being misunderstood here. As it is right now, any regular gamer can rate certain MMO based on previous knowledge. It's nothing beyond human excitement, based on an amount of knowledge, and knowledge is broken itself for nature: we don't consider every possibility out there, it's a default thing of our brain (like natural disasters or crazyness); the information isnt always legit and it is fragmentated (we can't unite every bit of info the developers say and there are plenty of misinformation out there); we can't predict the future (how do we know the developers will do what they promise?).
If a developer says "Hey guise look we have 'air combat'/'public quests'/'richard garriot '" and they 'forget' to say that a game is something much more complex with aspects even developers can't control (like commmunity), people will go "WOOOOOO BEST GAME EVURRR 10, VOTE 10 NAOO!!". The hype meter accomplishes what it was made for: rank the most anticipated games for the general gamers out there, and that is all, few gamers actually get past hype and see the actual potential of the game. The hype meter is as good as astrology or a fortune-teller if you want to measure the potential of a game. Now that is something else, a Potential Meter, with space to indie games and good AAA games too. It is a good idea, but i would keep it restricted to Elite Forum Members and mmorpg.com Staff.
As to the WoW hating in these forums, that is something very easy to explain: the medium age of the hardcore posters is rather old. We grew playing UO(my case)/DAOC/EQ, all of its aspects give us nostalgia, we think they are the best MMOS ever made (just ask people of different ages what is the best game they have ever played, it'll go from Ocarina of Time and GTA: San Andreas to Final Fantasy VII and Halo, but i bet they are all related to good childhood memories). Have you ever played Ultima Online and World of Warcraft: Wotlk? Dude, they are COMPLETELY OPPOSITES, and now that WoW is the standard sucessfull MMO to the eyes of the industry, our hopes of seeing a spiritual UO2 is almost shattered. It is not its sucess that makes us hate it, but it changed the market to a path that doesnt pleases us (don't get me wrong, my first WoW experience was great, its an incredible polished game, but i can't really get into it). It'll be one of the happiest days of my life when a big and known studio that we can thrust announces UO2 or something similiar, and deliver it (yes i'm a nerd).
Playing: Starcraft II. Played: Tibia, Ragnarok Online, Ultima Online, Guild Wars, World of Warcraft. Wanna play: Guild Wars 2, SW:TOR, Final Fantasy XIV, Diablo III.
Anyone saying that the hype-o-meter of this site is broken is a total dumbass. There are haters and fanbois to like/dislike every game out there. The balance on fanbois/gamers/haters depends on the game itself and on the marketing strategy of the company. If GW2 is almost reaching 9.0 rating there is a reason for it:
The game is solid, being in development for a long time now.
ArenaNET is a known developer, and it's releasing info in an insane pace compared to other mmos.
The Guild Wars IP had already ton of followers (10% fanbois, 90% satisfied customers).
The bold statements (and the delivering of it until now) made by the team will keep atracting more unaware gamers.
Say what you want, Guild Wars 2 is this hyped because it is almost impossible to hate it: there is almost no aspect of the game that is not good in the papers. We will know more about in the future. On the bad side though, i've never seen such amount of people turning into blind fanbois over a game, even with the previous experiences on hyped games.
Now with SW:TOR, there are plenty of reasons to hate it, and the main reason is: people want another type of Star Wars game, and Bioware already stated they aren't following that path. Horrid animations and graphics aside, until people get over the fact that they won't have anoter swg pre-cu, the hype on this game will be going down the hill because of the excessive amount of haters. I'm not saying that the game won't be good though, i'm probably buying it along with GW2 and Cata.
At last, just remember, hype is what it is: HYPE! It doesn't measures if the game will be good or not, it measures the excitement of people around a yet unreleased game. And when it comes to HUMAN EXCITEMENT, being rational is not on the table (for most people, that's why its called excitement), it's about emotion. If people are feeling angry because they are not getting what they want, then too bad for Bioware (although i believe they knew what they were getting into when they picked the SW IP): you now have plenty of work to do and things to show us if you want to turn this situation around.
Why would anyone care about hypes levels on this site?
I don't, because ultimately I know its going to be the beta experience and the output of that which will be a much stronger indicator of success or failure.
Why would anyone care about hypes levels on this site?
I don't, because ultimately I know its going to be the beta experience and the output of that which will be a much stronger indicator of success or failure.
Sometimes, most of the time it takes a few weeks/months before we know if we have a real stinker on our hands.
I think this is probably one of the key features. they just don't want to get burned again and so people are more realistic about games instead of going OMGIWANTNOW type mentality. Which is a good and healthy thing. You still get some on both sides that are rabid either for or against the game but at least people are being more reasonable about things.
I still want this game, and i'll still buy it, but if it's crap i'm going to say so, if it's good i'm still going to say so (although admittedly less so as i'll be busy playing the game) I'm aware of the games features and what i do and do not like about the game which is why i only rated it a 7 which is what i feel the game deserves from me for now. I only rate 10s on the all mighty games, which i haven't seen just yet. I only rate the lowest on games that have zero redeeming value, which unfortunately i have seen some.
All in all i think the hype is fine where it is. High enough to warrent a good deal of interest, without too much disappointment and backlash. Though it will still get some (especially on forums) regardless what it does or does not do.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
the hype is low because, after reading it for a gazillion times, everyone knows the game has a "story" - but bioware is oblivious to this and keeps telling everyone the game has a "story".
so either you sing the "omg! the game isn't released yet!!11!! you haven't played it so you don't know anything!!11" tune and keep aiding bioware to hype the game or you start to think that perhaps this might very well be a kotor online and sit and wait expectantly for more or check other games out.
more reasonable people take the latter approach.
True.
I'm excited because...
it's a Star Wars game
Bioware kicks ass at stories
Bioware makes games that completely suck me in
because it's an MMO
The truth is, I'll buy anything labeled "Star Wars". George preys on fools like me because he could wrap up turds, stick them in a box labeled Star Wars and I'd collect it.
I have high hopes for this game because I am a Star Wars fanatic...but I also have very real expectations. I know the game will not be everything I wish it were, but I know for certain it'll be better than some of the sh!t Star Wars games I've payed for.
i know exactly what you mean tux.
i too will end up buying the game precisely because its star wars.
at this point, i had higher hopes of course when they first announced this title but one must accept that bioware will make more money pursuing the WoW crowd than the true star wars crowd so hope is all we have left; even after cryptic managed to upset the trekkie community with their wow clone and bioware seems to be following the same route.
its a shame that they could have done so much more with their 100 million but playing 20 kotor sequels i'm sure its worth the money.
True Star Wars crowd?
i hope you dont mean as in "we played SWG"....cause a persons tastes in gaming has nothing to do with them being a fan.
At least you are finally getting the right mind frame. If the MMO part sucks....does it really matter? With as much SP story content, you are getting a mega copy of KOTOR for your 50 bucks plus sub. Should more than be worth the cost.
If it isnt then kick Tux in the shins.....hard like. He wont mind.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
I love star wars, but the way they ghey-ed up the jedis (yea jedis are ghey thanks to the fans/SW conventions/fan fictions/etc, they should let it die with luke) makes me a hater of the "new" star wars and anything that comes with it.
I do hope SW:TOR will be successful, but it'll be by a longshot.
All this game is at the moment is voice overs there is no actual game to play. Im sticking with wow been burnt way too many times by sub standard. Id rather play with the devil who I know than be burned by a lesser minion who doesnt quite get it.
Must you post moronic statements like this? The game is not about voiceovers. Voiceovers are a positive contribution to the story and an attempt to make the quests more absorbing so you won't just hit accept like you're doing in WOW. If you are illiterate or don't like stories, u can skip the dialogue. Who are you kidding anyway? More then half of you whiners that purposely post incorrect information will be the first in game enjoying themselves.
Or they want 'their' MMORPG or their type of MMORPG's to be successful and all others to fail, hence the trash talking of a game that isn't their type or the fervently wishing for a MMORPG to fail that hasn't even been launched yet.
Some people don't want diversity in successful MMORPG's if it isn't their type of MMORPG. And if their range in taste is narrow, then that means a lot of MMORPG's to hate or dislike.
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums: Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
The hype is not as high on this particular website simply because a large number of the people who frequent this site are sandbox MMORPG fans and this game is not going to be a sandbox. Because that other Star Wars MMO was a sandbox that many people around here revere as some sort of 'perfect' game, they look at the new themepark Star Wars MMO in a very negative light. They even see it as sort of a threat to their way of gaming life.
Even though the other games that are ahead of it on the list are also not sandbox games, I think many people have higher expectations simply because they aren't following up an existing sandbox game...
The Hype is only on VO tats all. They failed at gameplay and WOW graphics for now.
Going to humor you here, gameplay plays similar to every other MMO ever made, and the graphics while are closer to wow are not wow graphics exactly, besides art style never makes an MMO fail.
I hope you played the 15 min demo at pax before stating that. cause i have and see it much differently.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
Going to humor you here, gameplay plays similar to every other MMO ever made, and the graphics while are closer to wow are not wow graphics exactly, besides art style never makes an MMO fail.
I hope you played the 15 min demo at pax before stating that. cause i have and see it much differently.
Not as everyone but most. But that is the reason the hype is so low. That doesn't mean the game will fail (even if that surely is a possibility) but it do means that games that show new stuff we never seen before will attract the attention of potential players.
Being different is not always a plus but it makes it easier to be noticed.
As for the art, you are right. While some players avoid art they consider ugly most of us will not avoid a game because of it. If it doesn't look good enough that is a minus but no disaster.
This game can still go either way, it must both be really fun and have long play value to get all the money EA invested in it back. But it is possible that it delivers, or not. 15 minutes at PAX or E3 is not enough to judge if the game will truly make it or not more than the word of a fired Mythic employee is.
Going to humor you here, gameplay plays similar to every other MMO ever made, and the graphics while are closer to wow are not wow graphics exactly, besides art style never makes an MMO fail.
I hope you played the 15 min demo at pax before stating that. cause i have and see it much differently.
Not as everyone but most. But that is the reason the hype is so low. That doesn't mean the game will fail (even if that surely is a possibility) but it do means that games that show new stuff we never seen before will attract the attention of potential players.
Being different is not always a plus but it makes it easier to be noticed.
As for the art, you are right. While some players avoid art they consider ugly most of us will not avoid a game because of it. If it doesn't look good enough that is a minus but no disaster.
This game can still go either way, it must both be really fun and have long play value to get all the money EA invested in it back. But it is possible that it delivers, or not. 15 minutes at PAX or E3 is not enough to judge if the game will truly make it or not more than the word of a fired Mythic employee is.
Oh i totally agree on the 15 min thing, i haven't seen all the features. But of what i did play of it feels like every other MMO i've ever played, so if the gameplay in other mmos are good, then most likely this one will as well. Course i can't prove i was there so it's my word against theirs. But thats what i'm basing my interest off of, we will have to see at launch though
Merely the only reason i responded to that post above me at all was because i didn't want miss-information coming out. Though i think thats not neccessary right now as anyone interested has seen enough to make up their mind as to whether they want it or not.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I do not think the hype low at all, I actually think it needs to slow down a bit.
I'm too excited about this game to almost think about most things, whenever there's new info related to this game, I swear I put everything aside and just focus everything on SWTOR.
You want to see something crazy, you go to www.swtor.com forums, it's insane...you will seriously lose days in it.
Bioware/LucasArts/StarWars it's like a reunion I've been dying to see...it's going to be huge.
...Spring 2011, I can't wait to see you.
Hype related:...
It took Blizzard almost 2 years to increase there numbers from 11 to 12 million subs. even though that number is insane and great for any developer to see, it's just WOW hasn't really shined to people like it did before and that's why theses new games will help fix that huge void most of us of been wanting.
With SWTOR, GW2, Rift, DCUO and Tera...Blizzard may not lose all there fans, even though I'm kind of on that wagon,but they will sure enough lose there hype. When these games launch, WOW numbers will shrink, maybe be not to the extreme, but enough to wound Blizzards pocketbooks. I've been playing WOW for 5 years and I think it's just time to move on to something fresh, but when 2013 to 2014 comes rolling in, Blizzard will spill there guts on there new MMO and I have a feeling they will reel me back in.
Wildstar (2013) & Elder Scroll Online (2013)
Playing: Diablo 3, WOW, Far Cry 3 & X-Com.
Enjoyed: WOW 5 1/2 yrs, LOTRO 3yrs, GW 1/2yr, DFO 1yr, EVE Online 3yrs, and Huxley (Beta).
Failed to impress: GW2 3months, Tera Online 6 months (best combat system in any MMO I've played) STO 1/4yr, Aion 1/2yr, AoC 1yr, CO, Fallen Earth, DDO, EQ2 1/2yr, WAR 1/2yr, Lineage 2 and FF XI 1/2yr, FF XIV.
Going to humor you here, gameplay plays similar to every other MMO ever made, and the graphics while are closer to wow are not wow graphics exactly, besides art style never makes an MMO fail.
I hope you played the 15 min demo at pax before stating that. cause i have and see it much differently.
Not as everyone but most. But that is the reason the hype is so low. That doesn't mean the game will fail (even if that surely is a possibility) but it do means that games that show new stuff we never seen before will attract the attention of potential players.
Being different is not always a plus but it makes it easier to be noticed.
As for the art, you are right. While some players avoid art they consider ugly most of us will not avoid a game because of it. If it doesn't look good enough that is a minus but no disaster.
This game can still go either way, it must both be really fun and have long play value to get all the money EA invested in it back. But it is possible that it delivers, or not. 15 minutes at PAX or E3 is not enough to judge if the game will truly make it or not more than the word of a fired Mythic employee is.
Oh i totally agree on the 15 min thing, i haven't seen all the features. But of what i did play of it feels like every other MMO i've ever played, so if the gameplay in other mmos are good, then most likely this one will as well. Course i can't prove i was there so it's my word against theirs. But thats what i'm basing my interest off of, we will have to see at launch though
Merely the only reason i responded to that post above me at all was because i didn't want miss-information coming out. Though i think thats not neccessary right now as anyone interested has seen enough to make up their mind as to whether they want it or not.
Hahaha, 15 min and you can tell whether the game is really good? You should tell BW you want to sign up for a lifetime membership lol.
i'm so glad you managed to completely miss read what that actually said. Let me clarify what i said for you as apparently you misunderstood it. I said the gameplay was similar to what other MMOs were like. so if the game play is good in those games then this will be as well (storyline, quests, raids and such excluded, gameplay comes down to how well does the game play when a user is using the software)
As for the lifetime? i may just do that, if i see any more of what i want to see come out of this game.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
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And saying WOW is a hyundai and that eve is a porsche is so skewed. Have you actaully played wow? It is a great game, the mechanics work and the movement is fluid and things are decently clear and easy to understand.
I'm not a WoW fanboi by any means...I am constantly looking for something worth paying a subscription fee and haven't came across much. I'll get hyped for a game and then I'll buy it or get into beta and it isn't nearly as well made and I get bummed.
With all that said I am an ex SWG vet (My very first MMO), and I loved SWG till NGE and quit. I am super hyped about SW:TOR and I'm gonna buy it when it comes out. I just hope it plays as smoothly in game as wow ( Like the movement and ability to freeroam).
That's why i say the hype meter of mmorpg.com is not broken, the concept of hype is being misunderstood here. As it is right now, any regular gamer can rate certain MMO based on previous knowledge. It's nothing beyond human excitement, based on an amount of knowledge, and knowledge is broken itself for nature: we don't consider every possibility out there, it's a default thing of our brain (like natural disasters or crazyness); the information isnt always legit and it is fragmentated (we can't unite every bit of info the developers say and there are plenty of misinformation out there); we can't predict the future (how do we know the developers will do what they promise?).
If a developer says "Hey guise look we have 'air combat'/'public quests'/'richard garriot
'" and they 'forget' to say that a game is something much more complex with aspects even developers can't control (like commmunity), people will go "WOOOOOO BEST GAME EVURRR 10, VOTE 10 NAOO!!". The hype meter accomplishes what it was made for: rank the most anticipated games for the general gamers out there, and that is all, few gamers actually get past hype and see the actual potential of the game. The hype meter is as good as astrology or a fortune-teller if you want to measure the potential of a game. Now that is something else, a Potential Meter, with space to indie games and good AAA games too. It is a good idea, but i would keep it restricted to Elite Forum Members and mmorpg.com Staff.
As to the WoW hating in these forums, that is something very easy to explain: the medium age of the hardcore posters is rather old. We grew playing UO(my case)/DAOC/EQ, all of its aspects give us nostalgia, we think they are the best MMOS ever made (just ask people of different ages what is the best game they have ever played, it'll go from Ocarina of Time and GTA: San Andreas to Final Fantasy VII and Halo, but i bet they are all related to good childhood memories). Have you ever played Ultima Online and World of Warcraft: Wotlk? Dude, they are COMPLETELY OPPOSITES, and now that WoW is the standard sucessfull MMO to the eyes of the industry, our hopes of seeing a spiritual UO2 is almost shattered. It is not its sucess that makes us hate it, but it changed the market to a path that doesnt pleases us (don't get me wrong, my first WoW experience was great, its an incredible polished game, but i can't really get into it). It'll be one of the happiest days of my life when a big and known studio that we can thrust announces UO2 or something similiar, and deliver it (yes i'm a nerd).
Playing: Starcraft II.
Played: Tibia, Ragnarok Online, Ultima Online, Guild Wars, World of Warcraft.
Wanna play: Guild Wars 2, SW:TOR, Final Fantasy XIV, Diablo III.
Why would anyone care about hypes levels on this site?
Solid answer, thanks.
I don't, because ultimately I know its going to be the beta experience and the output of that which will be a much stronger indicator of success or failure.
There Is Always Hope!
becuase we're all bored. gives us something to talk about. lol
Because we already have a crap star wars mmo, dont see the need for another.
once burned....
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I think this is probably one of the key features. they just don't want to get burned again and so people are more realistic about games instead of going OMGIWANTNOW type mentality. Which is a good and healthy thing. You still get some on both sides that are rabid either for or against the game but at least people are being more reasonable about things.
I still want this game, and i'll still buy it, but if it's crap i'm going to say so, if it's good i'm still going to say so (although admittedly less so as i'll be busy playing the game) I'm aware of the games features and what i do and do not like about the game which is why i only rated it a 7 which is what i feel the game deserves from me for now. I only rate 10s on the all mighty games, which i haven't seen just yet. I only rate the lowest on games that have zero redeeming value, which unfortunately i have seen some.
All in all i think the hype is fine where it is. High enough to warrent a good deal of interest, without too much disappointment and backlash. Though it will still get some (especially on forums) regardless what it does or does not do.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I have high hopes for this game because I am a Star Wars fanatic...but I also have very real expectations. I know the game will not be everything I wish it were, but I know for certain it'll be better than some of the sh!t Star Wars games I've payed for.i know exactly what you mean tux.
i too will end up buying the game precisely because its star wars.
at this point, i had higher hopes of course when they first announced this title but one must accept that bioware will make more money pursuing the WoW crowd than the true star wars crowd so hope is all we have left; even after cryptic managed to upset the trekkie community with their wow clone and bioware seems to be following the same route.
its a shame that they could have done so much more with their 100 million but playing 20 kotor sequels i'm sure its worth the money.
True Star Wars crowd?
i hope you dont mean as in "we played SWG"....cause a persons tastes in gaming has nothing to do with them being a fan.
At least you are finally getting the right mind frame. If the MMO part sucks....does it really matter? With as much SP story content, you are getting a mega copy of KOTOR for your 50 bucks plus sub. Should more than be worth the cost.
If it isnt then kick Tux in the shins.....hard like. He wont mind.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
I love star wars, but the way they ghey-ed up the jedis (yea jedis are ghey thanks to the fans/SW conventions/fan fictions/etc, they should let it die with luke) makes me a hater of the "new" star wars and anything that comes with it.
I do hope SW:TOR will be successful, but it'll be by a longshot.
Because.....
All this game is at the moment is voice overs there is no actual game to play. Im sticking with wow been burnt way too many times by sub standard. Id rather play with the devil who I know than be burned by a lesser minion who doesnt quite get it.
im am just burnt out on star wars stuff....
they have turned jedi into a common foot troop.... just don't seem like the rare gem they use to be...
i am waiting for games like DC universe.... 40k game....
sure SWTOR will be a good game but jedi's and bounty hunters.... etc.. been there done that....
Or they want 'their' MMORPG or their type of MMORPG's to be successful and all others to fail, hence the trash talking of a game that isn't their type or the fervently wishing for a MMORPG to fail that hasn't even been launched yet.
Some people don't want diversity in successful MMORPG's if it isn't their type of MMORPG. And if their range in taste is narrow, then that means a lot of MMORPG's to hate or dislike.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
The hype is not as high on this particular website simply because a large number of the people who frequent this site are sandbox MMORPG fans and this game is not going to be a sandbox. Because that other Star Wars MMO was a sandbox that many people around here revere as some sort of 'perfect' game, they look at the new themepark Star Wars MMO in a very negative light. They even see it as sort of a threat to their way of gaming life.
Even though the other games that are ahead of it on the list are also not sandbox games, I think many people have higher expectations simply because they aren't following up an existing sandbox game...
The Hype is only on VO tats all. They failed at gameplay and WOW graphics for now.
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Pardon my English as it is not my 1st language
Going to humor you here, gameplay plays similar to every other MMO ever made, and the graphics while are closer to wow are not wow graphics exactly, besides art style never makes an MMO fail.
I hope you played the 15 min demo at pax before stating that. cause i have and see it much differently.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
Not as everyone but most. But that is the reason the hype is so low. That doesn't mean the game will fail (even if that surely is a possibility) but it do means that games that show new stuff we never seen before will attract the attention of potential players.
Being different is not always a plus but it makes it easier to be noticed.
As for the art, you are right. While some players avoid art they consider ugly most of us will not avoid a game because of it. If it doesn't look good enough that is a minus but no disaster.
This game can still go either way, it must both be really fun and have long play value to get all the money EA invested in it back. But it is possible that it delivers, or not. 15 minutes at PAX or E3 is not enough to judge if the game will truly make it or not more than the word of a fired Mythic employee is.
Oh i totally agree on the 15 min thing, i haven't seen all the features. But of what i did play of it feels like every other MMO i've ever played, so if the gameplay in other mmos are good, then most likely this one will as well. Course i can't prove i was there so it's my word against theirs. But thats what i'm basing my interest off of, we will have to see at launch though
Merely the only reason i responded to that post above me at all was because i didn't want miss-information coming out. Though i think thats not neccessary right now as anyone interested has seen enough to make up their mind as to whether they want it or not.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I do not think the hype low at all, I actually think it needs to slow down a bit.
I'm too excited about this game to almost think about most things, whenever there's new info related to this game, I swear I put everything aside and just focus everything on SWTOR.
You want to see something crazy, you go to www.swtor.com forums, it's insane...you will seriously lose days in it.
Bioware/LucasArts/StarWars it's like a reunion I've been dying to see...it's going to be huge.
...Spring 2011, I can't wait to see you.
Hype related:...
It took Blizzard almost 2 years to increase there numbers from 11 to 12 million subs. even though that number is insane and great for any developer to see, it's just WOW hasn't really shined to people like it did before and that's why theses new games will help fix that huge void most of us of been wanting.
With SWTOR, GW2, Rift, DCUO and Tera...Blizzard may not lose all there fans, even though I'm kind of on that wagon,but they will sure enough lose there hype. When these games launch, WOW numbers will shrink, maybe be not to the extreme, but enough to wound Blizzards pocketbooks. I've been playing WOW for 5 years and I think it's just time to move on to something fresh, but when 2013 to 2014 comes rolling in, Blizzard will spill there guts on there new MMO and I have a feeling they will reel me back in.
Wildstar (2013) & Elder Scroll Online (2013)
Playing: Diablo 3, WOW, Far Cry 3 & X-Com.
Enjoyed: WOW 5 1/2 yrs, LOTRO 3yrs, GW 1/2yr, DFO 1yr, EVE Online 3yrs, and Huxley (Beta).
Failed to impress: GW2 3months, Tera Online 6 months (best combat system in any MMO I've played) STO 1/4yr, Aion 1/2yr, AoC 1yr, CO, Fallen Earth, DDO, EQ2 1/2yr, WAR 1/2yr, Lineage 2 and FF XI 1/2yr, FF XIV.
Hahaha, 15 min and you can tell whether the game is really good? You should tell BW you want to sign up for a lifetime membership lol.
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Pardon my English as it is not my 1st language
i'm so glad you managed to completely miss read what that actually said. Let me clarify what i said for you as apparently you misunderstood it. I said the gameplay was similar to what other MMOs were like. so if the game play is good in those games then this will be as well (storyline, quests, raids and such excluded, gameplay comes down to how well does the game play when a user is using the software)
As for the lifetime? i may just do that, if i see any more of what i want to see come out of this game.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
It's cool to hate mainstream. Mainstream pop, rock, games, you name it.