Despite the whole unfairness of the match-up, the bias on this article is of such magnitude that it makes reading the whole thing a rather boring chore. It just screams "I love EVE so much and I believe that STO sucks!". Is impartiality too much to ask for?
I think that saying "STO sucks" is pretty objective. It seems to be a universally held opinion that STO is a big pile of suck.
Also, this match up was like The Death Star vs. Alderaan. If you excuse my Star Wars similes.
Altough I agree that overall STO is a lacklustre game, specially compared to Eve, it does shine in one area and that is combat. In Eve combat is all about preparation and numbers where as in STO combat is much more action oriented and dependant on the skill of you as a player.
You have shield facings that you can change, option to use torpedoes or lasers depending on the shield status of your foe and a multitude of other elements that makes combat in STO much, much more fun than the rather stale and assymetric (meaning you almost never have 5v5 PvP fights) of Eve.
So Eve for sure is a better MMORPG than STO but to not bring up the strongest element of STO is rather weak...
Thought I'd take a peek just to see how badly STO got mauled. It's about what I would have expected when a Tiger tank goes bumper to bumber with a Volkswagon Beetle.
Thought I'd take a peek just to see how badly STO got mauled. It's about what I would have expected when a Tiger tank goes bumper to bumber with a Volkswagon Beetle.
Altough I agree that overall STO is a lacklustre game, specially compared to Eve, it does shine in one area and that is combat. In Eve combat is all about preparation and numbers where as in STO combat is much more action oriented and dependant on the skill of you as a player.
You have shield facings that you can change, option to use torpedoes or lasers depending on the shield status of your foe and a multitude of other elements that makes combat in STO much, much more fun than the rather stale and assymetric (meaning you almost never have 5v5 PvP fights) of Eve.
So Eve for sure is a better MMORPG than STO but to not bring up the strongest element of STO is rather weak...
I would have to disagree with you. STO's combat is extremely stale. EVE's combat, even if you're just ratting, is far more engaging. In my opinion of course.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
EvE vs STO? Seriously? You could've just written "EvE wins." and ended the article right there. STO is widely renowned as one of the worst MMOs ever while EvE is frequently held up as the standard developers should be striving for in many respects.
EvE vs STO? Seriously? You could've just written "EvE wins." and ended the article right there. STO is widely renowned as one of the worst MMOs ever while EvE is frequently held up as the standard developers should be striving for in many respects.
^^ This exactly.
Its like comparing Jack the Ripper to a papercut . . . no contest.
To match them up based on the space setting was clearly a bad idea as many people have already said. I think a comparisson between Eve and anothe sandbox, like DFO or UO would have been more appropriate.
To match them up based on the space setting was clearly a bad idea as many people have already said. I think a comparisson between Eve and anothe sandbox, like DFO or UO would have been more appropriate.
EvE vs Pre-CU SWG would be a good read I think
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers. Do something wrong, no one forgets" -from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
Despite the whole unfairness of the match-up, the bias on this article is of such magnitude that it makes reading the whole thing a rather boring chore. It just screams "I love EVE so much and I believe that STO sucks!". Is impartiality too much to ask for?
I think that saying "STO sucks" is pretty objective. It seems to be a universally held opinion that STO is a big pile of suck.
Also, this match up was like The Death Star vs. Alderaan. If you excuse my Star Wars similes.
OH NOES, a Star Wars fan! BURN, HERETIC, BURN.
...
Just kidding.
On a more serious note, I haven't played STO, despite having read tons about it over here. So, indeed, it does appear to suck. It's just that the lack of objective neutrality on the writer's part kind of annoyed me. It sort of sounded like myself trying not to speak ill of almonds:
"Oh, almonds. You see, err... they're... okay. Sometimes. Really. It's not that I dislike them or anything, just... well, at least they're nutritious... right?"
I can just imagine the excitment in the Mmorpg.com boardroom the day they brainstormed this ........ I mean seriously guys , any chance of passing around what you been smoking ?
I think you should do ... lets say ..... " Darkfall vs Freerealms " next ... yeah that would be good !
To match them up based on the space setting was clearly a bad idea as many people have already said. I think a comparisson between Eve and anothe sandbox, like DFO or UO would have been more appropriate.
EvE vs Pre-CU SWG would be a good read I think
Perhaps, but pitting a game that no longer exists (and is now shit) might not be entirely fair. We've already witnessed Adam Tingle's very, very rose-tinted spectacles in action and I really don't need another "back in my day" rant!
I'm no fan of STO. In fact I think it's the worst game to arrive on market in years. But this comparison is ridiculous on so many levels. It says more about the cognative ability of the author than it says about the two games. It has all the maturity and professionalism of a adolescent reporter for a junior high newspaper.
EVE: A mature game 5+ years old. STO: Infancy barely 1 year old
EVE: Design around PvP: STO designed around PvE
Chosen catagories biased to rate well for EVE.
I could go on, but frankly I've wasted too much time responding to this article already.
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In fairness i'm suprised STO managed to get 24 points.
"Come and have a look at what you could have won."
I just think it's funny that anyone would think this comparison was even worthwhile, EVE is evidently tremendously better than STO.
I think that saying "STO sucks" is pretty objective. It seems to be a universally held opinion that STO is a big pile of suck.
Also, this match up was like The Death Star vs. Alderaan. If you excuse my Star Wars similes.
haha, i mean, why even bother to match this 2 game up? it's obvious EvE is gonna eat STO alive
So What Now?
Altough I agree that overall STO is a lacklustre game, specially compared to Eve, it does shine in one area and that is combat. In Eve combat is all about preparation and numbers where as in STO combat is much more action oriented and dependant on the skill of you as a player.
You have shield facings that you can change, option to use torpedoes or lasers depending on the shield status of your foe and a multitude of other elements that makes combat in STO much, much more fun than the rather stale and assymetric (meaning you almost never have 5v5 PvP fights) of Eve.
So Eve for sure is a better MMORPG than STO but to not bring up the strongest element of STO is rather weak...
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Remember when all the STO fanbois said STO was going to take a nice sized chunk of EvEs pve playerbase away...
Didn't work out did it?
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Waiting on: GW2, BP
Thought I'd take a peek just to see how badly STO got mauled. It's about what I would have expected when a Tiger tank goes bumper to bumber with a Volkswagon Beetle.
We need more space MMOs, damn it.
Well BP and JGE are on the way...
I hope BP is good since its f2p.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
I would have to disagree with you. STO's combat is extremely stale. EVE's combat, even if you're just ratting, is far more engaging. In my opinion of course.
Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity.
In Eve, can you still fly through planets? Always thought that pretty cool.
All I can say about this entire fiasco, is that whoever decided that sto and even needed to go head to head should be replaced as writing staff.
Thats like comparing a grass hut to a 350k house.
Honestly sto does not stand a snowballs chance in yea you got it.
I agree we need more space mmo's that don't suck.
Yeah when you warp i believe you can slip through matter...
Its CCPs way of saying "We aint changing that shit, so we made something up!"
Seems to have worked.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
EvE vs STO? Seriously? You could've just written "EvE wins." and ended the article right there. STO is widely renowned as one of the worst MMOs ever while EvE is frequently held up as the standard developers should be striving for in many respects.
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The two games cannot even be compared.......
my 2 cents
^^ This exactly.
Its like comparing Jack the Ripper to a papercut . . . no contest.
Gaming since Avalon Hill was making board games.
Played SWG, EVE, Fallen Earth, LOTRO, Rift, Vanguard, WoW, SWTOR, TSW, Tera
Tried Aoc, Aion, EQII, RoM, Vindictus, Darkfail, DDO, GW, PotBS
This has got to be the most pointless comparison I have ever seen .......
.... well ok granted , they both have "Space" in them I guess ...
To match them up based on the space setting was clearly a bad idea as many people have already said. I think a comparisson between Eve and anothe sandbox, like DFO or UO would have been more appropriate.
Always read the small print.
EvE vs Pre-CU SWG would be a good read I think
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers.
Do something wrong, no one forgets"
-from No One Remembers by In Strict Confidence
I got it...
The super fight!!!!!!!!!
EVE vs E&B
oh shit... i think i just got a sci-fi geek hard on.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
OH NOES, a Star Wars fan! BURN, HERETIC, BURN.
...
Just kidding.
On a more serious note, I haven't played STO, despite having read tons about it over here. So, indeed, it does appear to suck. It's just that the lack of objective neutrality on the writer's part kind of annoyed me. It sort of sounded like myself trying not to speak ill of almonds:
"Oh, almonds. You see, err... they're... okay. Sometimes. Really. It's not that I dislike them or anything, just... well, at least they're nutritious... right?"
While, in reality, I hate almonds.
I can just imagine the excitment in the Mmorpg.com boardroom the day they brainstormed this ........ I mean seriously guys , any chance of passing around what you been smoking ?
I think you should do ... lets say ..... " Darkfall vs Freerealms " next ... yeah that would be good !
Perhaps, but pitting a game that no longer exists (and is now shit) might not be entirely fair. We've already witnessed Adam Tingle's very, very rose-tinted spectacles in action and I really don't need another "back in my day" rant!
Same applies to E&B!
Always read the small print.
I'm no fan of STO. In fact I think it's the worst game to arrive on market in years. But this comparison is ridiculous on so many levels. It says more about the cognative ability of the author than it says about the two games. It has all the maturity and professionalism of a adolescent reporter for a junior high newspaper.
EVE: A mature game 5+ years old. STO: Infancy barely 1 year old
EVE: Design around PvP: STO designed around PvE
Chosen catagories biased to rate well for EVE.
I could go on, but frankly I've wasted too much time responding to this article already.
this is like comparing WoW to Darkfall.
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
Mr SBFord why the hate for EVE? Comparing it to ST Online is like comparing teletubbies with 60 Minutes
This thread should be reported for being shitty!