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I was reading all these comments about ffxiv.I was seeing scores of 5 and 4.
But to telll u the truth the game is not bad now that ive tried.At least it's not a 4.
I would rated as a 7.5 while it has potential to reach 8.5-9 in the near future.
I dont care what yyou are saying the game is a lot of fun.If you are used to wow go back to it cause blizzard knows exactly how brainwash children
It really is amazing how many posters have to relate everything to WoW. Even those that supposedly hate it or the people that play it, which within itself, is also rather amazing.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
This game is in another line of failures until something extraordinary happens with the gaming industry. Cant wait to see Curt Shillings game. Until then LOTRO is a great buy! Its free and really well produced.
What i have found in most sandboxes are discarded toys and cat poop.
If you enjoy a lack of content, horribly unoptimized engine, a terrible UI, and a skill/leveling system based completely on RNG, then yes it's a lot of fun.
Seems to me SE knows exactly how to brainwash also. Although i'd blame this more on the players than SE. They're the ones that knew exactly what the game would be, even back at the end on beta, and still defended this piece of crap through blind loyalty alone.
Then almost every professional reviewer in history loves and is biased towards Blizzard and NCSoft. You know, since both WoW and City of Heroes got almost universally high scores from every review company.
Or it could be that almost every professional reviewer finds those games good and this game bad.
The game is bad i would have given it a 60 but factoring in how much money SE threw at this it should have turned out much better. Ignoring the aspect about interface or lag etc, lets stop comparing to WoW and even look at Lotro the game simply is not on par. When it comes to character devolopment and storyline, non desolate enviornments. To me it simply reeks of a game where devolopers lack creativity or imgination.
So 1 game gets 10% lower than a blizzard game and its a conspiracy. Blizzard games get acclaims from tons of game reviewers often scoring their "Game of the year" " developer of the year etc.." If this one magazin were the only magazin giving favorable reviews than i would think somethign is up, but thats clearly nto the case. The industry thinks Blizzard produces winners and scores them that way. Im sorry FFXIV is getting terrible reviews from that industry, but in todays world of MMO's the game is backwards and doesnt fit.
Fyi Aion did not exactly get a good review by PC gamer neither did Tabula rasa or L2 so there goes your conspiracy theory. Guild wars and WoW are the two largest most well review games out there and Guild wars is devoloped by Arena net not NCSoft which is simply the publisher. What next PC gamer consipring with ArenaNet (ex blizz empoloyees) lmao....
I was pointing out the lunacy that this game is any way good, great or anything else north of a train wreck. Nothing more or less. My sig is a tribute to just that.
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##Fail Thread Title of 2011
Originally posted by daveospice
"this game looks like crap?"
Totally fair review IMO. It got what it deserved. Maybe in a year with all the updates they can rereview it and it'll do better.
You are contradicting yourself.
No need to reply I think we are done here.
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Before all the reviews, the "fans" like the one in your sig were saying that Metacritic was going to have it at an 8. It just shows how blind they were to their own fandom. It is now the lowest MMORPG on that site in history as far as I know. I challenge someone to find another MMORPG more universally detested by reviewers than this game.
I played FFXI for 6 years. I absolutely loved the game. So the first time I learned about Rapture (code name for FFXIV) I got super excited. Since FFXI was their first MMO and it was pretty much the same team developing FFXIV, I was thinking they would learn from their mistakes. This game would be golden!!
I bought FFXIV Collectors edition and I really tried to love this game, but they messed up in so many ways it got me angry. I did get my character over level 20, but once your job levels go past 10, it really starts to get repetitive and most of all boring. I understand most MMO's are a grind, but it doesnt really matter if the grind is fun. FFXI had some sort of charm when I started it out and I have very good memories just from the starting levels. FFXIV on the other hand got me constantly annoyed. After reaching level 20 I uninstalled the game. I came back a week later, made a character I really liked. Ready to give it another go. Didn't work out... The experience of playing always goes to the negative side. I don't understand how SE has wasted such a great opportunity. Here's the good and bad.
The Good:
Graphics (Although they require a strong PC)
Cinematic Cutscenes.
Crafting system. Pretty cool, at start atleast.
The Bad:
Battle. For some reason I find the auto attack from FFXI more attractive than pressing an individual action each time. Especially when the UI for it is slow and you cant really react to things fast enough. Main point is that there is no fun factor on the battle system itself.
No auction house. Have to individually browse sometimes over a hundred bazaars.
UI is slow, as mentioned before. Writing macros is also painfully slow.
No search function. No way to sort an inventory.
Playing in a party grants you no bonuses. You are better of soloing moles, or dodos, or rats...
Games enmity (hate) system is broken, a level 4 Archer shouldnt draw hate with 1 hit from a level 18 marauder.
Music. Nobue Uematsu. Was very dissapointed. Only good piece of music apart from CS's was the exp are near Ul'dah. It gets very repetitive and I had to turn sound off. Compared to FFXI where I listened the same music for 6 years.
No voice acting. It is really frustrating to see high quality graphics, but no voice acting. It's 2010, get voice acting.
Guildleves. Very repetitive. Kill these 6 mobs, 1 mob runs away. Chase him. Kill 3 more mobs. Be done in 5 mins.
Character creation. Lalafells have only 4 hair models to choose from. 4???
You can equip every piece of gear in game at level 1. Although they give bad stats at low level, it takes away some of the motivation to level up.
Crafting materials come in +1,+2 and +3 version which fill up your inventory fast.
The bottom line is that the game is very flawed, and even if they fix all the mistakes, the base of the game is done in such a way that there really is no fun factor. It feels very restricted, and honestly I just see no reason of playing it. Theres nothing in the game right now that encourages me to be a higher level. Especially with the boring grind that it is. If I had 26 million is SE shares, I'd sell it too.
When you release a game that is in very poor shape, you get the score you deserve.
FFXIV got the score it deserved because the game itself released in very very poor shape. Everything that should have been done in beta is just now being looked at and readied for late Nov early Dec - 3 months after the games release.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
FFXIV will bounce back for sure. Even though the game status now isn't good enough, but I am very happy about how SE responses now (by giving us another 30 days free) and also fixing the market system in piority. Also the way they communicate to the people about whats coming up for patches are very good because we now know whats behind them and they kinda annouce this by making us prosmises.
As a big company like SE, they will not let their AAA title fail. I just hope the extra contents will be coming sooner than I expect (I expect around 5th months of the game). ANd I hope by the time they fixes and add:
1.) Market Ward system and trading system - upcoming patch
2.) Interface, more friendlier to use - upcoming patch
3.) Graphic lag in crowded area - upcoming patch
4.) More craftable items - upcoming patch
5.) Housing
6.) Better way to communicate in chat.
7.) Mounts
8.) More rewards such as tokens or quest line to give you something unique
Is a very rough start for FFXIV, hope they learn the lesson !
But no MMO has ever recovered from a rough start (SWG, AO, VG) and never even managed to get back to original subscriber levels. Sure they can patch it up and make it better and find a niche audience but they are better off focusing on a new MMO.
If by 'bounce back' you mean become a moderately successful niche game (at best) with a small (yet dedicated player base) which will essentially drop off the radar for most of major gaming media outlets except when looking for examples of how not to develop or launch a game, then yes, FFXIV will 'bounce back'.
Honestly, all of these reviews seem overly harsh almost on purpose it's really odd.
Granted it has flaws, but what game doesn't?
To emphasis my point, if Diablo 3 released with many of the same problems....the reviewers would likely still gush over it and worship it as the second coming.
I guess I'm just wondering how this hate bandwagon got started.
Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse.
I think it has more to do with it being such a lofty ip and SE that leads to the harsher reviews. I think many expect more from a company like SE than they do from the likes of lesser known companies and franchises.
I also disagree with the Diablo 3 comment. If the game releases with a lot of things missing or done poorly it is going to get hammered. Especially since it does have so much hype behind the game currently.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
The thing is, a lot of these Ff fans seem to confuse challenging gameplay with tedious gameplay. They want to claim only smart, mature, elite players can enjoy this game because they stumble upon the thing we've all been missing.Then, they claim if we like such easy games, we should go back to wow. "This review is biased towards wow. He should go back to wow. If he wanted an easy game were everything is handed to you, go back to wow."
But, the thing is, this game is not challenging by any stretch of the imagination because of hard content, It's tedious. There is a difference. A challenging game would require you to use your brain to respond to different situation, to react, and react quickly and correctly. A tedious game would just require time sinks that are , quite frankly in this game's case, quite frustrating and ( hold you breath for the reason this game gets bad reviews), not fun.
Is having to look everything up, having a horrible ui, horrible market system, ect ect really challenging? No. It's tedious. Never once did i think "Oh this is so challenging, My brain just can't figure it out." Anyone can use google. I thought " You know what, i really don't want to go through these tedious hoops in my free time."
And the wow excuse is really useless. People don't say wow is easy because it is polished, functionl, and has a very responsive and good ui; they say it's easy because the raid and pvp content has been made increasingly more accessible to the masses.
They would not. The reviews seem harsh because this is not an indie title or low budget. SE has the resources to make blockbusters and have done so in the past. This is why the reviews are ripping FFXIV apart.... It is an absolute disgrace in terms of quality game development from a company with high standards.
Why can't people call out a game for being terrible if the IP is overly popular?
Yes this is Final Fantasy and YES it IS BAD. It might be just an opinion but it's one shared by the vast majority so just accept it at least.
Are you fanboys that ignorant and blind? so you put forth hypothetical scenario of how if Diablo 3 is terrible you think reviewers won't bash it. Because everyone hates SE even though reviewers gave previous FF games excellant reviews.
As for scenario the problem with the logic is Blizzard usually cans any game which it believes will be terrible, previewers who played Warcraft adventures thought it was ok not a great game what did Blizzard do? Unlike SE which try to squeeze every $$ out of FF franchise they canned it and lost millions rather than put forth a mediocre game, same Starcraft ghost.
Also there plenty of terrible activision (which owns blizzard) titles out there check the reviews for Singularity.
It has it's flaws, but it's a game that I enjoy playing a long with many of other people I play with. So it's really hard for me to call it a bad game.
Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse.
Am I blind? Did you even bother to read my post? I don't know what is more amazing the fact that you basically agree with my sentiment or that I was actually called a fanboy for this game.
Heh...suppose on these forums wonders never cease.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
My mistake the post was intended for the person you quoted obviously.