According to Louse, who actually worked at EA Mythic, yes they are in full panic mode.
Well, yeah but he got fired from Mythic. So first of all he have just heard what people in Mythics studio is saying, not what Bioware say in Austin.
Secondly anyone who got fired from any company is not the best witness, they are upset with the company and Louse blames Bioware for the fact that EA moved so many people from Mythic to Bioware and cut so many people from the WAR team. But blaming Bioware for the fact that WAR was a huge failure is just unfair, it was Mythics fault and people like Louse saw where things were going but didn't dare to say it even before launch.
But of course they are upset about negative articles, so is any company that is working on a game. And they are probably nervous since they put so much money into it, but I doubt that it is near what Louse said.
As they say: "Where there is smoke, there is fire"
And in case of SWTOR there is helluva lot of smoke.
Well... you're right, all that smoke surrounding War definitely meant there was a fire. I was amazed that they were able to recover from the launch they had.
But why would you refer to there being a fire around SW:TOR when all that smoke was billowing out of WAR?
I'm confused, or maybe you're confused... I don't know. Your posts rarely make since though.
EA has made 300 million dollar investment in this game. They hired one of the best studios in gaming. And have one of the best settings in popular culture.
Yet the negativity that is starting to surround this game (not only on this site) grows every day.
Now I am not sure about EA. But if I was in their shoes I would slowly start to panic.
The game is probably finished by now (and is only tested and fine tuned at this moment) Yet its clear that they have nothing good to show.
Every new video (like the latest one of imperial agent) looks worse than previous , and only puts more fuel to the fire.
I think they clearly dont have nothing better to show too.
And If they do have something better to show. What are they waiting for ?
For game rep to crash and burn so it would rise from ashes like a phoenix ? ( <- that is irony)
There is similarity here with APB. Great ideas , great budget , skillful company. But somewhere between idea and execution things got really wrong and end result is simply flawed.
So are EA and Bioware in panic mode right now ?
I don't think they mind your post too much. (I respectfully do not agree with almost anything you said.)
No becuase for every negitive post there are 20 fanboys ravign about how much they love the game and that neg. poster is a idiot that should be sodomized.
They should be worried tho , they got to focused on Single player experience (its an mmo) with full voice acting (its an mmo) story driven content (with lack of exploration and the such , its an mmo). Oh and their graphics just look bad (Its 2010)but i can handle that if combat/interfact is smooth (its an mmo).
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
Depends on if they subscribe to the thought that any publicity is good publicity. After all if it is being talked about good or bad, the fact that it is being talked about is what matters.
No becuase for every negitive post there are 20 fanboys ravign about how much they love the game and that neg. poster is a idiot that should be sodomized.
They should be worried tho , they got to focused on Single player experience (its an mmo) with full voice acting (its an mmo) story driven content (with lack of exploration and the such , its an mmo). Oh and their graphics just look bad (Its 2010)but i can handle that if combat/interfact is smooth (its an mmo).
Every game needs to focus on Single Player experience, that's what it's all about. Being an MMO is irrelevant to that. Same goes for Voice Acting.
And seeing as you actually know very little about what "exploration" will or will not be included in the game (yes, go ahead and cry about there being no space xploration), we can only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll.
Depends on if they subscribe to the thought that any publicity is good publicity. After all if it is being talked about good or bad, the fact that it is being talked about is what matters.
Does anyone remember how this industry used to be before the internet? Yes, life existed before the internet....ha
I also had to go into a menu to walk up/down stairs.... Wait i kinda have to do that in ff14 can you say regression? But no really where there is smoke, there is fire.
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
EA has made 300 million dollar investment in this game. They hired one of the best studios in gaming. And have one of the best settings in popular culture.
Yet the negativity that is starting to surround this game (not only on this site) grows every day.
Now I am not sure about EA. But if I was in their shoes I would slowly start to panic.
The game is probably finished by now (and is only tested and fine tuned at this moment) Yet its clear that they have nothing good to show.
Every new video (like the latest one of imperial agent) looks worse than previous , and only puts more fuel to the fire.
I think they clearly dont have nothing better to show too.
And If they do have something better to show. What are they waiting for ?
For game rep to crash and burn so it would rise from ashes like a phoenix ? ( <- that is irony)
There is similarity here with APB. Great ideas , great budget , skillful company. But somewhere between idea and execution things got really wrong and end result is simply flawed.
So are EA and Bioware in panic mode right now ?
I rather doubt it. To be honest I would in fact say the opposite. All this negativity is promoting discussions / arguments across cyberspace. You cannot buy this sort of publicity. Everyone knows what Star Wars The Old Republic is planning i.e. massive amounts of story and quest driven game play. People who like this direction will continue to like it and people who hate it will continue to hate it. BUT, as long as we keep posts negative or posisitve going the developers are getting free publicity.
So no atm I expect they are loving it. Keep up the good work. The time for them to worry is after release and the intitial opinion s of people actually playing the game because to be honest till then none of the forum posts either negative or posisitve have anything other than opinions and hearsay.
Originally posted by Lobotomist So are EA and Bioware in panic mode right now ?
Nope. Forum posters doesn't represent the majority of potential buyers. They never have and never will
They are most likely confident the game will speak for itself once released.
According to Louse, who actually worked at EA Mythic, yes they are in full panic mode.
oh god lol, I had forgotten about EA Louse. It's worse than the Valve one lol. It's sad when people take something good and twist it. EA Spouse did a good thing and then of course idiots decide to make sure what they did was never going to work for someone else again. Louse and the Valve guy have pretty much made sure that no one will take this kind of thing serious again for a long while lol.
What's not to take serious? His story explained a great number of things many fans had suspected about Mythic for a long time, and it was confirmed by other people that work at Mythic. The only people not taking it seriously are people who would rather not believe massive corporations aren't mismanaged.
I have not seen where anyone validated him and the same blogger even stated he did not know what was going on with Bioware.
People asked him various questions, and he answered them. One of these answers involved some mystery surrounding why Sanya left Mythic. She replied on her own blog confirming elements of his story. He obviously worked at Mythic.
No becuase for every negitive post there are 20 fanboys ravign about how much they love the game and that neg. poster is a idiot that should be sodomized.
They should be worried tho , they got to focused on Single player experience (its an mmo) with full voice acting (its an mmo) story driven content (with lack of exploration and the such , its an mmo). Oh and their graphics just look bad (Its 2010)but i can handle that if combat/interfact is smooth (its an mmo).
Every game needs to focus on Single Player experience, that's what it's all about. Being an MMO is irrelevant to that. Same goes for Voice Acting.
And seeing as you actually know very little about what "exploration" will or will not be included in the game (yes, go ahead and cry about there being no space xploration), we can only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll.
Im am sorry i played games like UO, eq, daoc, muds, ps, SWG, etc. where there was no to little focus on single player and i would argue are considered some of the best mmos ever made, becuase the goal was not single player but multi or massive player. TOR has put single player far ahead of multi or massive player makign TOR not so much of a mmo but an online multiplayer game like diablo ... i ask why do i need to pay $15 a month for you?
So i will " only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll."
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
No becuase for every negitive post there are 20 fanboys ravign about how much they love the game and that neg. poster is a idiot that should be sodomized.
They should be worried tho , they got to focused on Single player experience (its an mmo) with full voice acting (its an mmo) story driven content (with lack of exploration and the such , its an mmo). Oh and their graphics just look bad (Its 2010)but i can handle that if combat/interfact is smooth (its an mmo).
Every game needs to focus on Single Player experience, that's what it's all about. Being an MMO is irrelevant to that. Same goes for Voice Acting.
And seeing as you actually know very little about what "exploration" will or will not be included in the game (yes, go ahead and cry about there being no space xploration), we can only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll.
Im am sorry i played games like UO, eq, daoc, muds, ps, SWG, etc. where there was no to little focus on single player and i would argue are considered some of the best mmos ever made, becuase the goal was not single player but multi or massive player. TOR has put single player far ahead of multi or massive player makign TOR not so much of a mmo but an online multiplayer game like diablo ... i ask why do i need to pay $15 a month for you?
So i will " only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll."
lol yea single player stuff like meh ><. need an option for single or multiplayer lets say if no one is around in the game. but to do stuff like that sucks.
No becuase for every negitive post there are 20 fanboys ravign about how much they love the game and that neg. poster is a idiot that should be sodomized.
They should be worried tho , they got to focused on Single player experience (its an mmo) with full voice acting (its an mmo) story driven content (with lack of exploration and the such , its an mmo). Oh and their graphics just look bad (Its 2010)but i can handle that if combat/interfact is smooth (its an mmo).
Every game needs to focus on Single Player experience, that's what it's all about. Being an MMO is irrelevant to that. Same goes for Voice Acting.
And seeing as you actually know very little about what "exploration" will or will not be included in the game (yes, go ahead and cry about there being no space xploration), we can only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll.
Im am sorry i played games like UO, eq, daoc, muds, ps, SWG, etc. where there was no to little focus on single player and i would argue are considered some of the best mmos ever made, becuase the goal was not single player but multi or massive player. TOR has put single player far ahead of multi or massive player makign TOR not so much of a mmo but an online multiplayer game like diablo ... i ask why do i need to pay $15 a month for you?
So i will " only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll."
lol yea single player stuff like meh ><. need an option for single or multiplayer lets say if no one is around in the game. but to do stuff like that sucks.
The devs have already states that you can all but ignore all of the "storyline" and still lvl to max level. of course, many just choose to ignore that and continue to troll
lol yea single player stuff like meh ><. need an option for single or multiplayer lets say if no one is around in the game. but to do stuff like that sucks.
Im am not sure if this is sarcastic? But regardless, i like single player content (always think it should support groups however). Its nice to have, but at the end of the day im playing an mmorpg to PLAY WITH OTHERS. I have friends and would like to play with them and with as many other people as possible, thats why i like mmos. I also like regular rpgs, but i don't play them for more than a month or two (two if its multiplayer). Nor do i play them as much.
Now tor could be wonderful. But atm there is smoke.
Originally posted by mmogawd
The devs have already states that you can all but ignore all of the "storyline" and still lvl to max level. of course, many just choose to ignore that and continue to troll
Ok say this is true ... What has bioware spent its time and money on? What do they talk about everytime they showcase the game? What is their focus?
"of course, many just choose to ignore that and continue to troll"
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
EA has made 300 million dollar investment in this game. They hired one of the best studios in gaming. And have one of the best settings in popular culture.
Yet the negativity that is starting to surround this game (not only on this site) grows every day.
Now I am not sure about EA. But if I was in their shoes I would slowly start to panic.
The game is probably finished by now (and is only tested and fine tuned at this moment) Yet its clear that they have nothing good to show.
Every new video (like the latest one of imperial agent) looks worse than previous , and only puts more fuel to the fire.
I think they clearly dont have nothing better to show too.
And If they do have something better to show. What are they waiting for ?
For game rep to crash and burn so it would rise from ashes like a phoenix ? ( <- that is irony)
There is similarity here with APB. Great ideas , great budget , skillful company. But somewhere between idea and execution things got really wrong and end result is simply flawed.
So are EA and Bioware in panic mode right now ?
Nope. The key complaint about the game is that "It's WoW with lightsabers", EA suits just check how much money WoW made and rub their hands together.
Plus, most people that complain (like me), will still buy the game because it's star wars and it's bioware. It may not be what we want or it may not be our long term MMO, but we're still buying it.
Finally, as someone said, forum posters aren't representative.
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Originally posted by Lobotomist So are EA and Bioware in panic mode right now ?
Nope. Forum posters doesn't represent the majority of potential buyers. They never have and never will
They are most likely confident the game will speak for itself once released.
According to Louse, who actually worked at EA Mythic, yes they are in full panic mode.
oh god lol, I had forgotten about EA Louse. It's worse than the Valve one lol. It's sad when people take something good and twist it. EA Spouse did a good thing and then of course idiots decide to make sure what they did was never going to work for someone else again. Louse and the Valve guy have pretty much made sure that no one will take this kind of thing serious again for a long while lol.
What's not to take serious? His story explained a great number of things many fans had suspected about Mythic for a long time, and it was confirmed by other people that work at Mythic. The only people not taking it seriously are people who would rather not believe massive corporations aren't mismanaged.
I have not seen where anyone validated him and the same blogger even stated he did not know what was going on with Bioware.
People asked him various questions, and he answered them. One of these answers involved some mystery surrounding why Sanya left Mythic. She replied on her own blog confirming elements of his story. He obviously worked at Mythic.
Okay here's what's been confirmed. His story about what happened to Sanya was wrong. Sanya even stated so in her blog lol.
It's also been confirmed that even if he were a Mythic employee he has no way of knowing whats gone on or is going on with Bioware and SW:TOR.
No becuase for every negitive post there are 20 fanboys ravign about how much they love the game and that neg. poster is a idiot that should be sodomized.
They should be worried tho , they got to focused on Single player experience (its an mmo) with full voice acting (its an mmo) story driven content (with lack of exploration and the such , its an mmo). Oh and their graphics just look bad (Its 2010)but i can handle that if combat/interfact is smooth (its an mmo).
Every game needs to focus on Single Player experience, that's what it's all about. Being an MMO is irrelevant to that. Same goes for Voice Acting.
And seeing as you actually know very little about what "exploration" will or will not be included in the game (yes, go ahead and cry about there being no space xploration), we can only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll.
Im am sorry i played games like UO, eq, daoc, muds, ps, SWG, etc. where there was no to little focus on single player and i would argue are considered some of the best mmos ever made, becuase the goal was not single player but multi or massive player. TOR has put single player far ahead of multi or massive player makign TOR not so much of a mmo but an online multiplayer game like diablo ... i ask why do i need to pay $15 a month for you?
So i will " only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll."
Well I can't say much about EQ, DAOC and SWG because I didn't stick with them as long but I can speak on UO.
UO had a ton of focus on single player. You didn't have to group for most things. There were tons of dungeons and things to do for the individual. There was also group stuff as well.
all this negativity on possibly the MOST negative mmo forums on the internet?? I dont think they give a rats butt. Honestly the population of MMORPG.com accounts for a mere fraction of the total MMO playing population, they aint worried, thanks for coming out thou.
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nagativity what some inturn has to go threw all this not making a dime i bet the inturn is stoned and laphen is but off at the stupidity of some of these comments i do not think a multi million dollor company gives a rats A@# about are coments they just make the crap and say pleas pay us
I like what they've shown so far. In my opinion I think TOR may be at a higher level than lotro when it comes to the journey and strong pve experience.
I like how your posts can often sum up (atleast my own) personal feeling in like a sentence or two, My favorite mmorpg is LOTRO and this is largely how I see SWTOR as a game with a compelling story line to keep me engaged beyond the fact that I will get to play with an existing community.
I'm with you guys. WOW was my first MMO and where the addiction started since it was something new to me and I loved the social aspect, but LOTRO took WOW and put it into a universe I like with a good story and updated graphics. I just don't like the character animations. I think when all is said and done, this game may take that experience to greater heights and I for one am looking forward to a new addiction in this game.
No becuase for every negitive post there are 20 fanboys ravign about how much they love the game and that neg. poster is a idiot that should be sodomized.
They should be worried tho , they got to focused on Single player experience (its an mmo) with full voice acting (its an mmo) story driven content (with lack of exploration and the such , its an mmo). Oh and their graphics just look bad (Its 2010)but i can handle that if combat/interfact is smooth (its an mmo).
Every game needs to focus on Single Player experience, that's what it's all about. Being an MMO is irrelevant to that. Same goes for Voice Acting.
And seeing as you actually know very little about what "exploration" will or will not be included in the game (yes, go ahead and cry about there being no space xploration), we can only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll.
Im am sorry i played games like UO, eq, daoc, muds, ps, SWG, etc. where there was no to little focus on single player and i would argue are considered some of the best mmos ever made, becuase the goal was not single player but multi or massive player. TOR has put single player far ahead of multi or massive player makign TOR not so much of a mmo but an online multiplayer game like diablo ... i ask why do i need to pay $15 a month for you?
So i will " only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll."
Well I can't say much about EQ, DAOC and SWG because I didn't stick with them as long but I can speak on UO.
UO had a ton of focus on single player. You didn't have to group for most things. There were tons of dungeons and things to do for the individual. There was also group stuff as well.
So I don't think you played UO.
The same could be said for any of those games , the issue what what was the focus? Noty what was possible? how was it designed? I saw a bug in lol the other day where a guy could attack baron w/o beign hurt. He could do it, but the goal was to have it late game/group effort. Id say UO may have less group focus that EQ or DAOC, but none the less i feel all those games were based with mmo game play in mind. Could you solo sure, and i said in this thread i love single player content , but what is the focus? Single player does not (!) equal solo. You cvan have a massive multiplayer game where everyone is solo. Much of the efforts of TOR that we have seen so far are SINGLE PLAYER. (it sounds like you can invite people in and it scales which is great, thast multiplayer, not mmo). Now in contrast GW2 is going to have a lot of non grouped massive multiplayer content. I prefer grousp but id take that over the lack of focus on "massive". In a way wow now suffers from this same issue, it still a good game, but its hardly "epic". Epic is some of the SWG fights, Epic is every day in the fronts in daoc for the first 5 years, epic is epic. It differs from person to person, but epic in mmos should invlove a ton of people otherwise , you are missign a dynamic that can only be had in mmos. (Some fps are more massive than mmorpgs are today, and thats is sad).
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No becuase for every negitive post there are 20 fanboys ravign about how much they love the game and that neg. poster is a idiot that should be sodomized.
They should be worried tho , they got to focused on Single player experience (its an mmo) with full voice acting (its an mmo) story driven content (with lack of exploration and the such , its an mmo). Oh and their graphics just look bad (Its 2010)but i can handle that if combat/interfact is smooth (its an mmo).
Every game needs to focus on Single Player experience, that's what it's all about. Being an MMO is irrelevant to that. Same goes for Voice Acting.
And seeing as you actually know very little about what "exploration" will or will not be included in the game (yes, go ahead and cry about there being no space xploration), we can only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll.
Im am sorry i played games like UO, eq, daoc, muds, ps, SWG, etc. where there was no to little focus on single player and i would argue are considered some of the best mmos ever made, becuase the goal was not single player but multi or massive player. TOR has put single player far ahead of multi or massive player makign TOR not so much of a mmo but an online multiplayer game like diablo ... i ask why do i need to pay $15 a month for you?
So i will " only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll."
I have played those MMOs as well, but you are still right and wrong.
SW:TOR has not really put soloing anymore ahead than Blizzard did with WoW. In fact, one of the reasons it succeeded was because it allowed soloing from start to max level. All group content was opinional. However, like with WoW, in SW:TOR you can do dungeons or team up with a friend to do class quests etc. It is in no way hindered.
Also, SW:TOR has a persistent world design where people can trade, communicate, socialize, group and fight together or against each other. No different from most recent MMOs. According to many testers worlds are large and have no loading screens. We also quests that are fully interactive experiences very similar to Mass Effect 2, but they also all multiplayer interaction in the decision making. Yeah, it is so much like hack'n'slash Diablo with a lobby.
I think it would be retarded for a company to create game that focuses solely on multiplayer content because they would alienate a huge customer base.
And yes, you come off as someone with very narrowly defined view on what is "MMO".
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The only thing I worry about with TOR is that the community will be a bit coser to WOW in it's lack of maturity than the awesome communinty that we have in LORO right now.
I can't speak for LOTRO's community as I don't play that one, but I certainly agree with you about your concern about TORs community. There are many advertised features in TOR that I am not exactly pumped about (ie:tunnel shooter) but am willing to wait until I play it before I cast my last judgement... but the community seriously has me concerned. So far they're getting a failing grade in my book. (and in my book, MMO's are all about community)
Maybe I'll have to check out LOTRO.
Totally agree on the community bit, a good community will make an average game seem better, and vice versa.. as for the maturity level.. im in two minds about that, though i do have to say, the clone wars grade graphics do seem to indicate that its aimed at the 'younger' audience, so i would expect a 'fair' percentage of players to fall into that category.. but even in WoW, their not indicative of the overall age ranges of the players, but as often happens, the more vocal you are, the more you get noticed... so the simple answer is to only join groups of people who you want to play with.. mass encounters probably arent really that frequent so overall, maturity levels probably dont impact the game very much if at all. Personally i'd be interested to know how the 'maturity' levels were impacted in LOTRO since it went F2P.. though not interested enough to actually try playing the game again.... SW:TOR.. i plan to wait until the games been out a few months and the gameplay reviews are in, before thinking about trying it... even then, only if theres a free trial.
The community makes a big difference, but it is certainly not the most important aspect to me as there are always a few bad seeds in every game. I found LOTRO on the Landroval RPG server a relatively helpful server. There were some real asses on that server as well. I played Vanguard about 1 1/2 years after its release when the population dwindled down. I found that the community was extremely welcoming, helpful and mature. Unfortunately, I just wasn't having fun. I think finding a mature guild even if its small is what makes a world of a difference.
Originally posted by Lobotomist So are EA and Bioware in panic mode right now ?
Nope. Forum posters doesn't represent the majority of potential buyers. They never have and never will
They are most likely confident the game will speak for itself once released.
According to Louse, who actually worked at EA Mythic, yes they are in full panic mode.
oh god lol, I had forgotten about EA Louse. It's worse than the Valve one lol. It's sad when people take something good and twist it. EA Spouse did a good thing and then of course idiots decide to make sure what they did was never going to work for someone else again. Louse and the Valve guy have pretty much made sure that no one will take this kind of thing serious again for a long while lol.
What's not to take serious? His story explained a great number of things many fans had suspected about Mythic for a long time, and it was confirmed by other people that work at Mythic. The only people not taking it seriously are people who would rather not believe massive corporations aren't mismanaged.
I don't believe that anyone would say that massive corporations can't be mismanaged.
The problem here is that players are willing to buy into what they want to hear.
For instance, "yes" this EA louse may or may not be who they say they are. But if people can confirm what he/she is saying then it stands to reason that this info is out there and easily used for a hoax. Didn't anyone think that this person might be privy to the same gossip that has been flying around the web and that all they needed to do was present it as fact in a blog?
Now, I'm not saying what this person is saying is untrue. But players seemed more than willing to jump on this bandwagon as soon as it appeared. With no thought that this is the interwebz and that there are people with issues who can easily find a an arena for their voice.
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Well... you're right, all that smoke surrounding War definitely meant there was a fire. I was amazed that they were able to recover from the launch they had.
But why would you refer to there being a fire around SW:TOR when all that smoke was billowing out of WAR?
I'm confused, or maybe you're confused... I don't know. Your posts rarely make since though.
I don't think they mind your post too much. (I respectfully do not agree with almost anything you said.)
No becuase for every negitive post there are 20 fanboys ravign about how much they love the game and that neg. poster is a idiot that should be sodomized.
They should be worried tho , they got to focused on Single player experience (its an mmo) with full voice acting (its an mmo) story driven content (with lack of exploration and the such , its an mmo). Oh and their graphics just look bad (Its 2010)but i can handle that if combat/interfact is smooth (its an mmo).
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
Depends on if they subscribe to the thought that any publicity is good publicity. After all if it is being talked about good or bad, the fact that it is being talked about is what matters.
Those poor companies and their delicate feelings...
Every game needs to focus on Single Player experience, that's what it's all about. Being an MMO is irrelevant to that. Same goes for Voice Acting.
And seeing as you actually know very little about what "exploration" will or will not be included in the game (yes, go ahead and cry about there being no space xploration), we can only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll.
That is of course unless your FFXIV lol.
I also had to go into a menu to walk up/down stairs.... Wait i kinda have to do that in ff14 can you say regression? But no really where there is smoke, there is fire.
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
I rather doubt it. To be honest I would in fact say the opposite. All this negativity is promoting discussions / arguments across cyberspace. You cannot buy this sort of publicity. Everyone knows what Star Wars The Old Republic is planning i.e. massive amounts of story and quest driven game play. People who like this direction will continue to like it and people who hate it will continue to hate it. BUT, as long as we keep posts negative or posisitve going the developers are getting free publicity.
So no atm I expect they are loving it. Keep up the good work. The time for them to worry is after release and the intitial opinion s of people actually playing the game because to be honest till then none of the forum posts either negative or posisitve have anything other than opinions and hearsay.
Just my 2 cents
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People asked him various questions, and he answered them. One of these answers involved some mystery surrounding why Sanya left Mythic. She replied on her own blog confirming elements of his story. He obviously worked at Mythic.
Im am sorry i played games like UO, eq, daoc, muds, ps, SWG, etc. where there was no to little focus on single player and i would argue are considered some of the best mmos ever made, becuase the goal was not single player but multi or massive player. TOR has put single player far ahead of multi or massive player makign TOR not so much of a mmo but an online multiplayer game like diablo ... i ask why do i need to pay $15 a month for you?
So i will " only assume that you are either a)completely ignorant, b) a troll, or c) an ignorant troll."
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
lol yea single player stuff like meh ><. need an option for single or multiplayer lets say if no one is around in the game. but to do stuff like that sucks.
The devs have already states that you can all but ignore all of the "storyline" and still lvl to max level. of course, many just choose to ignore that and continue to troll
Im am not sure if this is sarcastic? But regardless, i like single player content (always think it should support groups however). Its nice to have, but at the end of the day im playing an mmorpg to PLAY WITH OTHERS. I have friends and would like to play with them and with as many other people as possible, thats why i like mmos. I also like regular rpgs, but i don't play them for more than a month or two (two if its multiplayer). Nor do i play them as much.
Now tor could be wonderful. But atm there is smoke.
Ok say this is true ... What has bioware spent its time and money on? What do they talk about everytime they showcase the game? What is their focus?
"of course, many just choose to ignore that and continue to troll"
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
Nope. The key complaint about the game is that "It's WoW with lightsabers", EA suits just check how much money WoW made and rub their hands together.
Plus, most people that complain (like me), will still buy the game because it's star wars and it's bioware. It may not be what we want or it may not be our long term MMO, but we're still buying it.
Finally, as someone said, forum posters aren't representative.
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Okay here's what's been confirmed. His story about what happened to Sanya was wrong. Sanya even stated so in her blog lol.
It's also been confirmed that even if he were a Mythic employee he has no way of knowing whats gone on or is going on with Bioware and SW:TOR.
Thats whats been confirmed lol.
Well I can't say much about EQ, DAOC and SWG because I didn't stick with them as long but I can speak on UO.
UO had a ton of focus on single player. You didn't have to group for most things. There were tons of dungeons and things to do for the individual. There was also group stuff as well.
So I don't think you played UO.
all this negativity on possibly the MOST negative mmo forums on the internet?? I dont think they give a rats butt. Honestly the population of MMORPG.com accounts for a mere fraction of the total MMO playing population, they aint worried, thanks for coming out thou.
nagativity what some inturn has to go threw all this not making a dime i bet the inturn is stoned and laphen is but off at the stupidity of some of these comments i do not think a multi million dollor company gives a rats A@# about are coments they just make the crap and say pleas pay us
I'm with you guys. WOW was my first MMO and where the addiction started since it was something new to me and I loved the social aspect, but LOTRO took WOW and put it into a universe I like with a good story and updated graphics. I just don't like the character animations. I think when all is said and done, this game may take that experience to greater heights and I for one am looking forward to a new addiction in this game.
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The same could be said for any of those games , the issue what what was the focus? Noty what was possible? how was it designed? I saw a bug in lol the other day where a guy could attack baron w/o beign hurt. He could do it, but the goal was to have it late game/group effort. Id say UO may have less group focus that EQ or DAOC, but none the less i feel all those games were based with mmo game play in mind. Could you solo sure, and i said in this thread i love single player content , but what is the focus? Single player does not (!) equal solo. You cvan have a massive multiplayer game where everyone is solo. Much of the efforts of TOR that we have seen so far are SINGLE PLAYER. (it sounds like you can invite people in and it scales which is great, thast multiplayer, not mmo). Now in contrast GW2 is going to have a lot of non grouped massive multiplayer content. I prefer grousp but id take that over the lack of focus on "massive". In a way wow now suffers from this same issue, it still a good game, but its hardly "epic". Epic is some of the SWG fights, Epic is every day in the fronts in daoc for the first 5 years, epic is epic. It differs from person to person, but epic in mmos should invlove a ton of people otherwise , you are missign a dynamic that can only be had in mmos. (Some fps are more massive than mmorpgs are today, and thats is sad).
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
I have played those MMOs as well, but you are still right and wrong.
SW:TOR has not really put soloing anymore ahead than Blizzard did with WoW. In fact, one of the reasons it succeeded was because it allowed soloing from start to max level. All group content was opinional. However, like with WoW, in SW:TOR you can do dungeons or team up with a friend to do class quests etc. It is in no way hindered.
Also, SW:TOR has a persistent world design where people can trade, communicate, socialize, group and fight together or against each other. No different from most recent MMOs. According to many testers worlds are large and have no loading screens. We also quests that are fully interactive experiences very similar to Mass Effect 2, but they also all multiplayer interaction in the decision making. Yeah, it is so much like hack'n'slash Diablo with a lobby.
I think it would be retarded for a company to create game that focuses solely on multiplayer content because they would alienate a huge customer base.
And yes, you come off as someone with very narrowly defined view on what is "MMO".
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The community makes a big difference, but it is certainly not the most important aspect to me as there are always a few bad seeds in every game. I found LOTRO on the Landroval RPG server a relatively helpful server. There were some real asses on that server as well. I played Vanguard about 1 1/2 years after its release when the population dwindled down. I found that the community was extremely welcoming, helpful and mature. Unfortunately, I just wasn't having fun. I think finding a mature guild even if its small is what makes a world of a difference.
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I don't believe that anyone would say that massive corporations can't be mismanaged.
The problem here is that players are willing to buy into what they want to hear.
For instance, "yes" this EA louse may or may not be who they say they are. But if people can confirm what he/she is saying then it stands to reason that this info is out there and easily used for a hoax. Didn't anyone think that this person might be privy to the same gossip that has been flying around the web and that all they needed to do was present it as fact in a blog?
Now, I'm not saying what this person is saying is untrue. But players seemed more than willing to jump on this bandwagon as soon as it appeared. With no thought that this is the interwebz and that there are people with issues who can easily find a an arena for their voice.
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