The only problem I see happening with WoW is a lot of people weren't expecting a pay-per-month game. Honestly, I've seen quite a few complaints about how some Warcraft 3 fan got WoW and were shocked to see they had to pay to play ( you think they would have looked at the box.) I doubt it will die out soon but eventually I see it falling off because like it or not, it is kinda easy to get to max level.
To the poster who said most of us have probably not played WoW...
I played WoW stress test and open beta, just for the record. Wanted to let you know in case I said something like this: WoW is fun for a while, but next to EQ2 it is the preschool of MMOGs.
That way you'd know that I know what I was talking about when I said it
BTW: I'm bored at work, otherwise I wouldn't be wasting my time posting this crap LOL.
Originally posted by punki I want to know. Is it going to die in like a month?
No, to many fans from Blizzard, just Like AO, DAoC, and EQ1&2 have the loyal following,. Those games all having something good going for it. Nothing wrong with fanbois either til they treat the games as a religion and try to ram it down your pie hole.
Uhh... just cause you pass by 1 or 2 Level 60 players per few days doesn't mean EVERYONE is at Level 60 for crying out loud. There's still 80% of the population who've been playing since launch and are around level 40.
They get to a very high level cause all they do is play WoW all day long and not cause there's a trick or exploit to gain levels quickly.
Get your facts straight people, any MMORPG can be capped if you play too much of it, while some MMORPGs can be capped cause of tricks and strategies that are unfair and ruin the game (coughSWGcough)
Originally posted by Cenn srohek - you just described a perfect mmorpg from a sales/marketing point of view.. thats what EVERY MMORPG aims to be... blizzard took everything that was working (ie, attracted most customers) in other games, put them together, packaged it nicely in Warcraft lore - and voila - WoW. I played Beta - it was a nice game... i might even get it when it comes to Europe.. but i'm keeping my eve-online account all the same.
Originally posted by ianubisi
That's what all MMOGs do. You can't single Blizzard and WoW out for that strategy.
Although most mainstream MMORPGs aim to achieve this, what they don't understand is it won't make their product a quality game by any means, thus making it an undesireable game to play in the long run. People think MMORPGs are supposed to follow a very basic formula, that's not what the genre's about. In the history of videogames, it's a relatively new genre, there are developers trying to capitalize on the epidemic, and there are developers trying to evolve the genre for the sake of taking it to new heights, which most people completely fail to realize, because they're all busy grinding away in their favorite run of the mill MMORPG so they can feed their addiction as they're forever in a state of dellusion that they're actually being entertained. Don't get me wrong, WoW is a fun game, but it takes a lot more to make a quality game. The game also has to bring forth a sense of challenge, thrill, excitement, and immersion which are far more important elements in a quality game. When I look back at truly great games, the most memorable feelings have been those. Fortunately there have been developers who are englightened enough to step up to revolutionize and take the genre into the right direction, which is not to design them for the love of money, but for the love of videogames. Here a list of games that are going in the right direction:
Darkfall - Skill-based open-PvP game that combines first-person shooter with RPG elements.
Frontier 1859 - Virtual world in the wild west. Survival and economic eccentric game.
Trials of Ascension - Permanent death. Skill-based. Innovative faction and AI design.
Mourning - Blood-line system. Innovative crafting system. Of course open-PvP, skill-based, and all that good stuff that.
Originally posted by punki I want to know. Is it going to die in like a month?
Just my opinon, and a few facts; I do not think that WOW will be the next COH, because of a few simple reasons:
1. WOW originated out of a company (blizzard) that has multiple succesfull games, wich gives this company a certain credability, and fans.
2. The warcraft series where immensely Popular, wich gives the game a good chance of succeeding in being a good MMORPG, if the storyline is as good as in the series.
3. this I find the best reason: every single species has different backgrounds, wich include different missions, there are (or so I heard) more than a FEW HUNDRED different quests
4. As an add on to nr 3: Missions aren't anything like other MMORPG's missions, these missions will include interaction with among others talking heads, who ask you politely (:D) to bring them to their bodies. Wich means: one quest is actually filled with multiple tasks.
As may be concluded, WOW, will probably not be played out in one month. As there are multiple species and classes to choose from, wich all have different missions. As I mentioned, the quests/missions, are not just: go to place, kill all you find, and go back. Every mission has its own story.
I do have however, one thing that concerns me about the game, The levels, it only goes to 60, and you are there pretty fast, within weeks (not a fact, I just heard that)
If you wish to gain the same knowledge abou tthe game as I have, just surf over to: www.Worldofwarcraft.com, there are all kinds of interesting things to read there: races, classes, professions, and even the history of Azeroth the warcraft world, wich has over 10.000 years in it.
It's been fun writing this, I hope this solves your problem on the matter!
Greetings Schiznea
PS: I''m not always as nifty with words, and as serious, I can have fun
I would say no. I'm currently playing and I'll be the first to say there are still bugs and start-up issues, but nothing like Horizons. CoH is definitely a niche market game. Those who are really into comics gotta love that game, but it's still doing good. Horizons was a huge FLOP. I still have 2 copies of that game collecting dust and never played past the free time. Big waste of 80 bucks. I am having fun in WoW, and although some are trying to speed through the game, I'm having a good time playing and am taking my time to see and enjoy. I do plan to try out D&L and D&D Online when they are released though, and will probably switch to one of those depending on how well they do.
Do you want to know what I thought WoW would be like when I entered my beta application ? I thought blizzard would look at all the other mmo's take the good parts of them package it in a nice smooth client and add some blizzard specials. And thats what they did... Noone ever mentions that it's the first mmo with (near) perfect seamless loading.
And for you who say that WoW will only last a few months, although upgrades will have come by that time that expand the game, for casual gamers and apparently 2 weeks for hardcore gamers just because you get to lvl 60 have you had characters that was lvl 60 ? Did you beat all the raid bosses ? Did you know that equipment matters more then your level wich makes a lvl 60 raid veteran vastly superior to a lvl 60 noob ? Have you read ( http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/raid-article.html ) ?
Level 60 is where the games begin not end...
WoW is the only other game I have felt like socializing, other then EvE, volentairy (ie. not just when I needed to trade something) I never thought just sitting at a lake fishing for 8 hours talking to ppl comming up and asking how the water is could be so fun and relaxing...
Originally posted by aeric67 To the poster who said most of us have probably not played WoW... I played WoW stress test and open beta, just for the record. Wanted to let you know in case I said something like this: WoW is fun for a while, but next to EQ2 it is the preschool of MMOGs. That way you'd know that I know what I was talking about when I said it BTW: I'm bored at work, otherwise I wouldn't be wasting my time posting this crap LOL.
thats fine, but it'd be great if you could contrast/compare to explain what fascets of both games your speaking about w/ EQ2 that makes WoW look like the 'preschool' of mmogs. In fact i'd be happy to debate you on this, just make sure to make legitemate points instead of just saying 'cuz i think so'.
We could start with character building(traits vs talents, character diversity, amount of options), combat(HO system vs combos/combo pts, diversity in combat options, etc), value(replayability/alts) or you can choose whatever aspect of EQ2 you think has so much more depth. Not saying some aspects of EQ2 dont have more depth because they do, but overall i bet i can make the argument that WoW has more, not to mention just setup in design so much better~
Well, I have not played WoW but from what my friends tell me, it is really quite good. I don't care for PvP games, so its doubtful that I will ever play it but everyone tells me that it has no lag (See Sony?! It CAN be done!).
CoH is very good and probably one of the better MMORGs out there (I have played quite a few). The graphics are good, sound is good, lag is all but nonexistent, the community is very nice, etc. Even if you are not a fan of the genre, you will enjoy City of Heroes. I wish all games were as good at what they do as what CoH does.
Will WoW die off? Definately. Why do I say that? because ALL mmorgs die off after about 6 months (sometimes less). There are a lot of people who will jump into a game, Power Game it for several months, and then leave. I have seen it if almost every MMORG I have ever played. Once the hard core, powergaming addicts are done with it, the population will drop off... dramatically. The quality of a mmorg doesn't really matter in this regard. A mmorg could be the very best ever wriiten and yet in 6 months, the population will drop dramatically.
Don't worry though, I am sure that there will be plenty of people playing WoW a year from now to make playing it very enjoyable (assuming you enjoy PvP).
Originally posted by zodden Ok first off I dont see how you can even compare the two games. Blizzard sold 250,000 copies of the game on the FIRST DAY. I bet CoH hasnt sold that many total and its been out how long? So asking if its going to die seems kind of odd to me.
I think its a blast, the best MMORPG to date and i have played most of them. And yeah there are people hitting 60 now, just like in 2001 there were people hitting 50 on Daoc. These are people who: A. Played in beta for along time and got chars to 60 there. They already know where to go and do so they have a huge advantage. B. Are willing to play for 18 hours a day for 3 weeks to get there.
Look we are talking about Blizzard here so to think for a second that this game is gonna become the next "Horizens" or something is so foolish its almost beyond comment.
I have also heard that the ones already at 60 are account sharing with people in differnt time zones.
Originally posted by aeric67 If you are casual, WoW will last you a while. That is what Blizzard is counting on. They thought there was a market for casual MMORPG players out there and they were right. The simple fact is this: If you want an involving MMOG that will last you many months and take up a lot of time, play EQ2. If you want to play an MMOG that you can just hop into a little while and play for short periods of time, play WoW. It's really just that simple!
I totally Disagree and this slander of WoW by the EQ fanbois is not working obviously by the reviews in general, on this site and the number of people buying the game. Just go read the complaints on the EQ2 player reviews then go read the WoW reviews and tell me which game is better.
You are flat out lying in saying that the game is for "casual players". The greatness of this game is that its for both casual and hardcore players alike. It can get as simple or complex as you want it to be. Certainly there are instance quests where you will not only have to find a group, but you will want it to be well balanced and it could take hours to go through the quest. Once PvP adds the rewards system how could anybody ever consider it casual? The more you PvP the more you will get in rewards. EQ2 has quests, mobs, the level grind, crafting and all this WoW also has in addition to PvP.
What have I learned? I'm quitting this game in a couple weeks.
It is shallow, it is blase, it is cheap, lame, and overall, PATHETIC.
(No. I'm not a EQ fanboi, I hate EQ as well.)
Whats this game about? Grinding...Thats it...
It's not even fun grinding at that. It's just, go here, kill this, return. Damn...wow...That was fun.
But truthfully. I'm a PvP'er. So I think hell, it says "Warcraft" in it, right? So there gots to be lots of war...They also mentioned that there would be some type of interesting honor system in place at release...beep...wrong.
I'm on the PvP server Sargeras, lately in the stonetalon mountains I've PvP'ed alot (It's contested ground.) It's an interesting feat killing a couple night elves, sort of the same feeling when you blow someone away in Quake, or Unreal. But then it comes down to...This is pathetic. There is no goal. It's just to annoy the other player/team! You don't lose anything, you don't gain anything. It's all about pissing off the other team.
What does World of Warcraft offer? Nothing new...Just Diablo on steroids.
Death is not to fear, for contrary to popular belief, it is not the end, but rather the beginning on the road to eternity.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Originally posted by aeric67 No, because that's been all outlined before. I don't feel like being exhaustively redundant... I'd rather be briefly redundant.
In other words im scared to sound stupid while debating you.. I really dont know anything about WOW I just come here to bash it cause im a Evercrap fanboi.
And to all the people that are leaving WOW.. C YA.. Can you send me your stuff in the mail so I can sell it and get the cash?
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
I don't know how many current subcribers WoW has or how many it WILL have in a month, 6 months or a year. No doubt many current players will quit for various reasons, and many fanbois will stay no matter what. Just how many new players will be added over the next few months remains to be seen.
However, WoW has not even released in Europe yet, and the population here is over 400 million, not all gamers of ofcourse, but since the US population is about 375 million, it gives you an idea of the potential new customers. There are a HUGE number of potential French and German players, not to mention all the English and English-speaking players.
WoW will lose players, perhaps more than it gains over time, but enough for it to die? Horizons isn't dead yet, and it has barely 15,000 subs left so...
All other speculation is pointless. Posting rave reviews or flaming the game is ridiculous. No-one should let another persons opinion prevent them from seeing for themself.
It won't get less boring, it won't get any harder, the mechanics won't be less transparent, crafting won't suddenly become interesting, and I certainly won't be buying it...
But there is no way WoW is going to die any time soon. There was a great big open space in the market for a casual MMO, and WoW is filling it.
Habit is not to be flung out the window by any man, but coaxed down the stairs one step at a time. - Mark Twain
Originally posted by Aldaron 24 hunter, 25 druid, 20 shaman, 20 rogue. What have I learned? I'm quitting this game in a couple weeks. It is shallow, it is blase, it is cheap, lame, and overall, PATHETIC. (No. I'm not a EQ fanboi, I hate EQ as well.) Whats this game about? Grinding...Thats it... It's not even fun grinding at that. It's just, go here, kill this, return. Damn...wow...That was fun. But truthfully. I'm a PvP'er. So I think hell, it says "Warcraft" in it, right? So there gots to be lots of war...They also mentioned that there would be some type of interesting honor system in place at release...beep...wrong. I'm on the PvP server Sargeras, lately in the stonetalon mountains I've PvP'ed alot (It's contested ground.) It's an interesting feat killing a couple night elves, sort of the same feeling when you blow someone away in Quake, or Unreal. But then it comes down to...This is pathetic. There is no goal. It's just to annoy the other player/team! You don't lose anything, you don't gain anything. It's all about pissing off the other team. What does World of Warcraft offer? Nothing new...Just Diablo on steroids.
Death is not to fear, for contrary to popular belief, it is not the end, but rather the beginning on the road to eternity.
Ya know your the kind of person that drives me nuts. I saw the same posts all over the EQ1 boards right after launch and the same on the Daoc boards at this point after its launch as well. You want the game to be out and perfect at launch. The PvP system is not fully flushed out yet. The honor system is not in yet, nor the battlegrounds but the game has been out for like 3 weeks! So you ask...whats the point? The point is to level up for now and when the PvP system is in place you will be ready to take advantage of it. You think with some level 20 characters your going to PvP effectively? Lol
I am glad your quitting and I hope all the others who feel the same way leave too. I also hope all the other morons leave with you
Originally posted by Aldaron 24 hunter, 25 druid, 20 shaman, 20 rogue. What have I learned? I'm quitting this game in a couple weeks. It is shallow, it is blase, it is cheap, lame, and overall, PATHETIC. (No. I'm not a EQ fanboi, I hate EQ as well.) Whats this game about? Grinding...Thats it... It's not even fun grinding at that. It's just, go here, kill this, return. Damn...wow...That was fun. But truthfully. I'm a PvP'er. So I think hell, it says "Warcraft" in it, right? So there gots to be lots of war...They also mentioned that there would be some type of interesting honor system in place at release...beep...wrong. I'm on the PvP server Sargeras, lately in the stonetalon mountains I've PvP'ed alot (It's contested ground.) It's an interesting feat killing a couple night elves, sort of the same feeling when you blow someone away in Quake, or Unreal. But then it comes down to...This is pathetic. There is no goal. It's just to annoy the other player/team! You don't lose anything, you don't gain anything. It's all about pissing off the other team. What does World of Warcraft offer? Nothing new...Just Diablo on steroids.Death is not to fear, for contrary to popular belief, it is not the end, but rather the beginning on the road to eternity.
Problem with WoW is that its too easy and catering to morons. So those types will love it like thier lives depend on it but will bore of it just like CoH.
There will always be die hards, look at UO, its still going after 7 years.
Originally posted by BarryManilow Problem with WoW is that its too easy and catering to morons. So those types will love it like thier lives depend on it but will bore of it just like CoH.
There will always be die hards, look at UO, its still going after 7 years.
Originally posted by Rammur WoW will last forever one they will most likly raise the lvl cap throw in a few expansions make it a bit harder as they age.This is blizzard were talkin about look at diablo ii that game is like old and still fun and enjoyable blizzard is known for there repetative games but they still stick in the gaming race fine.CoH i havnt even played yet so i wont go there.
Didn't AC have a level limit of 200? That means nothing, if a game gets boring it gets boring.
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The only problem I see happening with WoW is a lot of people weren't expecting a pay-per-month game. Honestly, I've seen quite a few complaints about how some Warcraft 3 fan got WoW and were shocked to see they had to pay to play ( you think they would have looked at the box.) I doubt it will die out soon but eventually I see it falling off because like it or not, it is kinda easy to get to max level.
To the poster who said most of us have probably not played WoW...
I played WoW stress test and open beta, just for the record. Wanted to let you know in case I said something like this: WoW is fun for a while, but next to EQ2 it is the preschool of MMOGs.
That way you'd know that I know what I was talking about when I said it
BTW: I'm bored at work, otherwise I wouldn't be wasting my time posting this crap LOL.
No, to many fans from Blizzard, just Like AO, DAoC, and EQ1&2 have the loyal following,. Those games all having something good going for it. Nothing wrong with fanbois either til they treat the games as a religion and try to ram it down your pie hole.
Uhh... just cause you pass by 1 or 2 Level 60 players per few days doesn't mean EVERYONE is at Level 60 for crying out loud. There's still 80% of the population who've been playing since launch and are around level 40.
They get to a very high level cause all they do is play WoW all day long and not cause there's a trick or exploit to gain levels quickly.
Get your facts straight people, any MMORPG can be capped if you play too much of it, while some MMORPGs can be capped cause of tricks and strategies that are unfair and ruin the game (coughSWGcough)
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Although most mainstream MMORPGs aim to achieve this, what they don't understand is it won't make their product a quality game by any means, thus making it an undesireable game to play in the long run. People think MMORPGs are supposed to follow a very basic formula, that's not what the genre's about. In the history of videogames, it's a relatively new genre, there are developers trying to capitalize on the epidemic, and there are developers trying to evolve the genre for the sake of taking it to new heights, which most people completely fail to realize, because they're all busy grinding away in their favorite run of the mill MMORPG so they can feed their addiction as they're forever in a state of dellusion that they're actually being entertained. Don't get me wrong, WoW is a fun game, but it takes a lot more to make a quality game. The game also has to bring forth a sense of challenge, thrill, excitement, and immersion which are far more important elements in a quality game. When I look back at truly great games, the most memorable feelings have been those. Fortunately there have been developers who are englightened enough to step up to revolutionize and take the genre into the right direction, which is not to design them for the love of money, but for the love of videogames. Here a list of games that are going in the right direction:
Darkfall - Skill-based open-PvP game that combines first-person shooter with RPG elements.
Frontier 1859 - Virtual world in the wild west. Survival and economic eccentric game.
Trials of Ascension - Permanent death. Skill-based. Innovative faction and AI design.
Mourning - Blood-line system. Innovative crafting system. Of course open-PvP, skill-based, and all that good stuff that.
Just my opinon, and a few facts; I do not think that WOW will be the next COH, because of a few simple reasons:
1. WOW originated out of a company (blizzard) that has multiple succesfull games, wich gives this company a certain credability, and fans.
2. The warcraft series where immensely Popular, wich gives the game a good chance of succeeding in being a good MMORPG, if the storyline is as good as in the series.
3. this I find the best reason: every single species has different backgrounds, wich include different missions, there are (or so I heard) more than a FEW HUNDRED different quests
4. As an add on to nr 3: Missions aren't anything like other MMORPG's missions, these missions will include interaction with among others talking heads, who ask you politely (:D) to bring them to their bodies. Wich means: one quest is actually filled with multiple tasks.
As may be concluded, WOW, will probably not be played out in one month. As there are multiple species and classes to choose from, wich all have different missions. As I mentioned, the quests/missions, are not just: go to place, kill all you find, and go back. Every mission has its own story.
I do have however, one thing that concerns me about the game, The levels, it only goes to 60, and you are there pretty fast, within weeks (not a fact, I just heard that)
If you wish to gain the same knowledge abou tthe game as I have, just surf over to: www.Worldofwarcraft.com, there are all kinds of interesting things to read there: races, classes, professions, and even the history of Azeroth the warcraft world, wich has over 10.000 years in it.
It's been fun writing this, I hope this solves your problem on the matter!
Greetings Schiznea
PS: I''m not always as nifty with words, and as serious, I can have fun
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Do you want to know what I thought WoW would be like when I entered my beta application ? I thought blizzard would look at all the other mmo's take the good parts of them package it in a nice smooth client and add some blizzard specials. And thats what they did... Noone ever mentions that it's the first mmo with (near) perfect seamless loading.
And for you who say that WoW will only last a few months, although upgrades will have come by that time that expand the game, for casual gamers and apparently 2 weeks for hardcore gamers just because you get to lvl 60 have you had characters that was lvl 60 ? Did you beat all the raid bosses ? Did you know that equipment matters more then your level wich makes a lvl 60 raid veteran vastly superior to a lvl 60 noob ? Have you read ( http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/raid-article.html ) ?
Level 60 is where the games begin not end...
WoW is the only other game I have felt like socializing, other then EvE, volentairy (ie. not just when I needed to trade something) I never thought just sitting at a lake fishing for 8 hours talking to ppl comming up and asking how the water is could be so fun and relaxing...
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thats fine, but it'd be great if you could contrast/compare to explain what fascets of both games your speaking about w/ EQ2 that makes WoW look like the 'preschool' of mmogs. In fact i'd be happy to debate you on this, just make sure to make legitemate points instead of just saying 'cuz i think so'.
We could start with character building(traits vs talents, character diversity, amount of options), combat(HO system vs combos/combo pts, diversity in combat options, etc), value(replayability/alts) or you can choose whatever aspect of EQ2 you think has so much more depth. Not saying some aspects of EQ2 dont have more depth because they do, but overall i bet i can make the argument that WoW has more, not to mention just setup in design so much better~
No, because that's been all outlined before. I don't feel like being exhaustively redundant... I'd rather be briefly redundant.
Well, I have not played WoW but from what my friends tell me, it is really quite good. I don't care for PvP games, so its doubtful that I will ever play it but everyone tells me that it has no lag (See Sony?! It CAN be done!).
CoH is very good and probably one of the better MMORGs out there (I have played quite a few). The graphics are good, sound is good, lag is all but nonexistent, the community is very nice, etc. Even if you are not a fan of the genre, you will enjoy City of Heroes. I wish all games were as good at what they do as what CoH does.
Will WoW die off? Definately. Why do I say that? because ALL mmorgs die off after about 6 months (sometimes less). There are a lot of people who will jump into a game, Power Game it for several months, and then leave. I have seen it if almost every MMORG I have ever played. Once the hard core, powergaming addicts are done with it, the population will drop off... dramatically. The quality of a mmorg doesn't really matter in this regard. A mmorg could be the very best ever wriiten and yet in 6 months, the population will drop dramatically.
Don't worry though, I am sure that there will be plenty of people playing WoW a year from now to make playing it very enjoyable (assuming you enjoy PvP).
WoW will not die in a month.
I totally Disagree and this slander of WoW by the EQ fanbois is not working obviously by the reviews in general, on this site and the number of people buying the game. Just go read the complaints on the EQ2 player reviews then go read the WoW reviews and tell me which game is better.
You are flat out lying in saying that the game is for "casual players". The greatness of this game is that its for both casual and hardcore players alike. It can get as simple or complex as you want it to be. Certainly there are instance quests where you will not only have to find a group, but you will want it to be well balanced and it could take hours to go through the quest. Once PvP adds the rewards system how could anybody ever consider it casual? The more you PvP the more you will get in rewards. EQ2 has quests, mobs, the level grind, crafting and all this WoW also has in addition to PvP.
24 hunter, 25 druid, 20 shaman, 20 rogue.
What have I learned? I'm quitting this game in a couple weeks.
It is shallow, it is blase, it is cheap, lame, and overall, PATHETIC.
(No. I'm not a EQ fanboi, I hate EQ as well.)
Whats this game about? Grinding...Thats it...
It's not even fun grinding at that. It's just, go here, kill this, return. Damn...wow...That was fun.
But truthfully. I'm a PvP'er. So I think hell, it says "Warcraft" in it, right? So there gots to be lots of war...They also mentioned that there would be some type of interesting honor system in place at release...beep...wrong.
I'm on the PvP server Sargeras, lately in the stonetalon mountains I've PvP'ed alot (It's contested ground.) It's an interesting feat killing a couple night elves, sort of the same feeling when you blow someone away in Quake, or Unreal. But then it comes down to...This is pathetic. There is no goal. It's just to annoy the other player/team! You don't lose anything, you don't gain anything. It's all about pissing off the other team.
What does World of Warcraft offer? Nothing new...Just Diablo on steroids.
Death is not to fear, for contrary to popular belief, it is not the end, but rather the beginning on the road to eternity.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
In other words im scared to sound stupid while debating you.. I really dont know anything about WOW I just come here to bash it cause im a Evercrap fanboi.
And to all the people that are leaving WOW.. C YA.. Can you send me your stuff in the mail so I can sell it and get the cash?
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
COH is the only MMO to give out a comic, but the comic is the only thing in the world crappier than the actual game.
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I don't know how many current subcribers WoW has or how many it WILL have in a month, 6 months or a year. No doubt many current players will quit for various reasons, and many fanbois will stay no matter what. Just how many new players will be added over the next few months remains to be seen.
However, WoW has not even released in Europe yet, and the population here is over 400 million, not all gamers of ofcourse, but since the US population is about 375 million, it gives you an idea of the potential new customers. There are a HUGE number of potential French and German players, not to mention all the English and English-speaking players.
WoW will lose players, perhaps more than it gains over time, but enough for it to die? Horizons isn't dead yet, and it has barely 15,000 subs left so...
All other speculation is pointless. Posting rave reviews or flaming the game is ridiculous. No-one should let another persons opinion prevent them from seeing for themself.
WoW certainly isn't going to die in a month.
It won't get less boring, it won't get any harder, the mechanics won't be less transparent, crafting won't suddenly become interesting, and I certainly won't be buying it...
But there is no way WoW is going to die any time soon. There was a great big open space in the market for a casual MMO, and WoW is filling it.
Habit is not to be flung out the window by any man, but coaxed down the stairs one step at a time. - Mark Twain
Ya know your the kind of person that drives me nuts. I saw the same posts all over the EQ1 boards right after launch and the same on the Daoc boards at this point after its launch as well. You want the game to be out and perfect at launch. The PvP system is not fully flushed out yet. The honor system is not in yet, nor the battlegrounds but the game has been out for like 3 weeks! So you ask...whats the point? The point is to level up for now and when the PvP system is in place you will be ready to take advantage of it. You think with some level 20 characters your going to PvP effectively? Lol
I am glad your quitting and I hope all the others who feel the same way leave too. I also hope all the other morons leave with you
Originally posted by Aldaron
24 hunter, 25 druid, 20 shaman, 20 rogue.
What have I learned? I'm quitting this game in a couple weeks.
It is shallow, it is blase, it is cheap, lame, and overall, PATHETIC.
(No. I'm not a EQ fanboi, I hate EQ as well.)
Whats this game about? Grinding...Thats it...
It's not even fun grinding at that. It's just, go here, kill this, return. Damn...wow...That was fun.
But truthfully. I'm a PvP'er. So I think hell, it says "Warcraft" in it, right? So there gots to be lots of war...They also mentioned that there would be some type of interesting honor system in place at release...beep...wrong.
I'm on the PvP server Sargeras, lately in the stonetalon mountains I've PvP'ed alot (It's contested ground.) It's an interesting feat killing a couple night elves, sort of the same feeling when you blow someone away in Quake, or Unreal. But then it comes down to...This is pathetic. There is no goal. It's just to annoy the other player/team! You don't lose anything, you don't gain anything. It's all about pissing off the other team.
What does World of Warcraft offer? Nothing new...Just Diablo on steroids.Death is not to fear, for contrary to popular belief, it is not the end, but rather the beginning on the road to eternity.
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Just so you know, they are going to add new PVP features, In contested areas you can take over guard towers, graveyards, and such, read it on this page: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdevelopment.html
This will probably make it more fun to pvp, because this time, you DO HAVE something to lose, your spot in an area.
Problem with WoW is that its too easy and catering to morons. So those types will love it like thier lives depend on it but will bore of it just like CoH.
There will always be die hards, look at UO, its still going after 7 years.
morons? like......funny u dont like wow
never played coh...
dunno maybe be a supermen suxx
the game itself is stupid...supermen and another bs...just the wold is dumb...dunno how gameplay is
and i think i will never know