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Star Wars: The Old Republic: PvP in the Old Republic

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

At a recent Bioware event, MMORPG.com's Ben PerLee had the opportunity to talk PvP with Gabe Amatangelo, Lead PvP Designer. Called warzones, each PvP area offers unique and special elements to keep things fresh, as well as remind players of the universe of The Old Republic. Amatangelo had a lot to say about this, so read on more for his side of The Old Republic. Be sure to let us know what you think below.

Any fan of Star Wars: The Old Republic is probably approaching the game from many different angles. After all, most information for the game has been focused on the hundreds of hours of voice work and the Bioware pedigree story telling. This is all grand and good, but any good MMO doesn't just rely on the first portion of the game. End-game and PvP is just as important, and if The Old Republic gets too caught up in telling stories, the actual game could suffer.

Read more SWTOR: PvP in the Old Republic.



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  • pompey606pompey606 Member UncommonPosts: 439

    This was really interesting till I hit the bit that said 8 v 8. I thought the PvP in a star wars game should be large, epic scale fights. 8 is not large and epic to me. I was hoping for fights in the 30s at least, similar to the pvp area in SWG where you get some really nice big battles going.

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  • rubydragon5rubydragon5 Member UncommonPosts: 693

    "so yeah, you'll be getting experience for PvP"

    sweet!, pvp advancement





  • whilanwhilan Member UncommonPosts: 3,472

    The warzone released is 8 vs 8, however the devs said there was more warzones on the way and of varying sizes.  also they've said there would be open world pvp.

     


    • Quote: There will be "Open World PvP" in terms of meeting members of other factions on planets as Tatooine being able to decide if you want to attack them or not. -SWTOR-Station

    • Confirmed by Greg Zeschuk that there will be Open World PvP in appropriate areas within TOR - Interview

    Thats for open world pvp


     


    I'll have to keep searching for the varying sizes of warzones.  Will get back to you on that one.


     


    Edit; ignore my statement on the varying sizes i can't find the quote and darth hater says they don't know either. Still theres open world pvp for ya.

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  • WilliacWilliac Member Posts: 212

    @ pompey606: I wouldn't worry too much. I agree 8 vs 8 is not what I exoected but I'm also convinced, even though it's dangerous to have such hopes, BioWare will make larger battlegrounds where players are more than  just 8. I hope for something similar to WoW's AV  size. :)

  • TruethTrueth Member Posts: 287

    Wait wait......WAIT!

    There is no open-world PVP now - It's all instanced?

  • zahir123zahir123 Member Posts: 21

    So good information but hope PVP warzones ar emore than "visual easter eggs" , I mean Halo did that already, what about cooperative groups without an objective like "treaty is off this planet" to kill the otherside that is more viseral than capture flag, turrent control, etc. for me

    I think is awesome there is still some voiceover in pvp, and some PVP scenarios can be defend or attack would be great, but I think KOTOR has alot of  options for cronfration even public in day light attacking another player which if possible would be what most pvpers in mmos want which is provoke and get response to fight, others like objectives and massive 24 vs 24 army vs army raids other like plant explosive, others capture does TOR have it?

    Good interview, Im looking forward to this game

  • whilanwhilan Member UncommonPosts: 3,472

    Originally posted by Trueth

    Wait wait......WAIT!

    There is no open-world PVP now - It's all instanced?

    Read my post above yours. Already confirmed open world pvp.

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  • urthal22urthal22 Member UncommonPosts: 108

    Somehow... I just dont feel it... I wanted this to be awsome. But it just doesnt Sound all that great..

    -Closed Misions environements where only you and your party does the story..

    -No world PvP of any sort (unless they announce it elsewhere?)

    - 8v8 battles...pvp battle grounds....

    SO... You have a MMO that you will never intereact with more than 8 people... Why would i EVEN consider that a  M-A-S-S-I-V-E-L-Y    >>> MULTI<<<   Players

    Its like  they are taking the Game Scheme of Guild wars one .... Folks you are Quite a few years back...

    For crying outloud ... 8v8 ...  anyway... Had a bad feeling about Bioware + MMO Starwars IP... and my feelings were right on spot..

    i will never play 15$ a month to play a Co-op game.  Never.

    in a mmo i want people , Big guild events, Busy areas with people trading / chatting whatever.

    Its supposed to be social ! not  (ok theres 4 of us , lets Do the Story and be done with the game's Main attraction they been speaking of)

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,957

    Originally posted by urthal22

    Somehow... I just dont feel it... I wanted this to be awsome. But it just doesnt Sound all that great..

    -Closed Misions environements where only you and your party does the story..

    -No world PvP of any sort (unless they announce it elsewhere?)

    - 8v8 battles...pvp battle grounds....

    SO... You have a MMO that you will never intereact with more than 8 people... Why would i EVEN consider that a  M-A-S-S-I-V-E-L-Y    >>> MULTI<<<   Players

    Its like  they are taking the Game Scheme of Guild wars one .... Folks you are Quite a few years back...

    For crying outloud ... 8v8 ...  anyway... Had a bad feeling about Bioware + MMO Starwars IP... and my feelings were right on spot..

    i will never play 15$ a month to play a Co-op game.  Never.

    in a mmo i want people , Big guild events, Busy areas with people trading / chatting whatever.

    Its supposed to be social ! not  (ok theres 4 of us , lets Do the Story and be done with the game's Main attraction they been speaking of)

    Originally posted by whilan

    The warzone released is 8 vs 8, however the devs said there was more warzones on the way and of varying sizes.  also they've said there would be open world pvp.

     


    • Quote: There will be "Open World PvP" in terms of meeting members of other factions on planets as Tatooine being able to decide if you want to attack them or not. -SWTOR-Station

    • Confirmed by Greg Zeschuk that there will be Open World PvP in appropriate areas within TOR - Interview

    Thats for open world pvp

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  • BaelzarBaelzar Member Posts: 1

    I'm really hoping he's only describing one option; arena style PvP.

    Really, really, really hoping there's full PvP servers.  Please.

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  • KabaalKabaal Member UncommonPosts: 3,042

    It's threads like this that make me think some people dont read, make up something in their mind then panic like a little girl.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,957

    Originally posted by Baelzar

    I'm really hoping he's only describing one option; arena style PvP.

    Really, really, really hoping there's full PvP servers.  Please.

    They will have open pvp on certain planets.

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  • whilanwhilan Member UncommonPosts: 3,472

    Originally posted by urthal22

    Somehow... I just dont feel it... I wanted this to be awsome. But it just doesnt Sound all that great..

    -Closed Misions environements where only you and your party does the story..

    -No world PvP of any sort (unless they announce it elsewhere?)

     


    • Quote: There will be "Open World PvP" in terms of meeting members of other factions on planets as Tatooine being able to decide if you want to attack them or not. -SWTOR-Station

    • Confirmed by Greg Zeschuk that there will be Open World PvP in appropriate areas within TOR - Interview

    - 8v8 battles...pvp battle grounds....

    This is one type of pvp, not the sole type (see above for another example)

    SO... You have a MMO that you will never intereact with more than 8 people... Why would i EVEN consider that a  M-A-S-S-I-V-E-L-Y    >>> MULTI<<<   Players

    Who says you can't interact with more then 8 people?  All the worlds are open.

     


    • Quote James Olhen: Our game is very open. We’ve developed several worlds, and each of those worlds is wide open, huge worlds with many square kilometers and you’re able to explore those worlds any way you want - TenTonHammer

    • After talking about the smaller starter planet of Hutta: Quote: "It took a little under an hour to roam from one end of Hutta to the next, but that was on pretty much a straight line with only a couple little side ventures."- Darth Hater

    Its like  they are taking the Game Scheme of Guild wars one .... Folks you are Quite a few years back...

    For crying outloud ... 8v8 ...  anyway... Had a bad feeling about Bioware + MMO Starwars IP... and my feelings were right on spot..

    i will never play 15$ a month to play a Co-op game.  Never.

    in a mmo i want people , Big guild events, Busy areas with people trading / chatting whatever.

    Its supposed to be social ! not  (ok theres 4 of us , lets Do the Story and be done with the game's Main attraction they been speaking of)

    I really don't want to pull a facepalm right now so instead i'll link some articles for you. (which i put into your post.  Your going to have wide open worlds, crafting 2 forms of pvp, world quests, personal quests.  If it's in a normal mmo its in this game.

    Edit: Sovrath beat me to it, good job.

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  • CeraphimCeraphim Member UncommonPosts: 21

    It's smart to start with 8v8.....makes it easier for them not to fail.

    Those "other" developers who love to claim 50v50 pvp for release, and then FAIL miserably just end up crippling the game and tarnishing it permenantly before they get around to fixing it.

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  • SelfDestructProSelfDestructPro Member UncommonPosts: 323

    You know it'd be nice if in this day and age, people did interviews on video instead of text.  I mean I like reading and all, but really only if it's in some adventure story or something similar.  This, I just can't follow.  And even like when Gabe Amatangelo was talking about warzone sizes, the first sentence didn't make sense.  Those types of things need to be edited to make more sense.  To write word for word what they say is great and all, but it just confuses people who weren't there.

  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318

    So long as we aren't forced to take part, I don't really care. 

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Originally posted by Moirae

    So long as we aren't forced to take part, I don't really care. 

    I think Han Solo said that prior to the attack on the death star.

    It was one of his carebear moments

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  • ParadoxyParadoxy Member Posts: 786

    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by Moirae

    So long as we aren't forced to take part, I don't really care. 

    I think Han Solo said that prior to the attack on the death star.

    It was one of his carebear moments

    Hahah..best post so far. Just imagine all jedi saying this.

    Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?


    Originally posted by Arcken

    To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
    Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible

  • spermbobspermbob Member Posts: 31

    wait! 8 vs. 8 on small extra pvp maps? this reminds me to LOTRO: everyone knows how terrible the pvp is.

    the pvp in the new star wars game should be the same pvp like in the old star wars game. pvp with an flag system and without restrictions. this was fun!

  • ParadoxyParadoxy Member Posts: 786

    Originally posted by spermbob

    wait! 8 vs. 8 on small extra pvp maps? this reminds me to LOTRO: everyone knows how terrible the pvp is.

    the pvp in the new star wars game should be the same pvp like in the old star wars game. pvp with an flag system and without restrictions. this was fun!

    I am sure this is not the only type of PVP you will find in SWTOR. Game is far from release. Also game is going to have PVP servers so that will take care of 24 hrs PVP for anyone who likes it.

    Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?


    Originally posted by Arcken

    To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
    Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible

  • spermbobspermbob Member Posts: 31

    yes they really want pvp in small separated areas. i bet it will be like unreal tournament lol. by the way:  the whole game is base on instances. 

  • ParadoxyParadoxy Member Posts: 786

    Originally posted by spermbob

    yes they really want pvp in small separated areas. i bet it will be like unreal tournament lol. by the way:  the whole game is base on instances. 

    Wrong!

    Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?


    Originally posted by Arcken

    To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
    Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    /Sigh...

    How many times do they as well as forum users have to say, the 8v8 first of all, is not set in stone, second is not the only form of PVP available, as an example world PVP is confirmed.

    I like the idea of pvp advancement as a means to break up the pace of story-line leveling.

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  • whilanwhilan Member UncommonPosts: 3,472

    I understand sometimes information is hard to come by, but come on people. when the information is linked in the same thread, TWICE, thats getting irriating, really, read the thread, it doesn't take that long before you come across my post which flat out states they have OPEN WORLD PVP (yes thats shouting, get the point across).

    It's getting old, stop being lazy.

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  • InkpuppetInkpuppet Member Posts: 38

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by urthal22

    Somehow... I just dont feel it... I wanted this to be awsome. But it just doesnt Sound all that great..

    -Closed Misions environements where only you and your party does the story..

    -No world PvP of any sort (unless they announce it elsewhere?)

    - 8v8 battles...pvp battle grounds....

    SO... You have a MMO that you will never intereact with more than 8 people... Why would i EVEN consider that a  M-A-S-S-I-V-E-L-Y    >>> MULTI<<<   Players

    Its like  they are taking the Game Scheme of Guild wars one .... Folks you are Quite a few years back...

    For crying outloud ... 8v8 ...  anyway... Had a bad feeling about Bioware + MMO Starwars IP... and my feelings were right on spot..

    i will never play 15$ a month to play a Co-op game.  Never.

    in a mmo i want people , Big guild events, Busy areas with people trading / chatting whatever.

    Its supposed to be social ! not  (ok theres 4 of us , lets Do the Story and be done with the game's Main attraction they been speaking of)

    Originally posted by whilan

    The warzone released is 8 vs 8, however the devs said there was more warzones on the way and of varying sizes.  also they've said there would be open world pvp.

     


    • Quote: There will be "Open World PvP" in terms of meeting members of other factions on planets as Tatooine being able to decide if you want to attack them or not. -SWTOR-Station

    • Confirmed by Greg Zeschuk that there will be Open World PvP in appropriate areas within TOR - Interview

    Thats for open world pvp

    Good, tuck it away on a few planets so I don't have to deal with baby junior son of a B and their tirade of "PwN U" emotes.  Now I have more interest in the game!

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