I voted GW2 because most of the other games on the list that I've been reading about look like they are going to be nothing more than WoW-Alternatives.
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I diagree yet again. Marketing and word of mouth only goes so far. Once you log in and start playing WOW, all that marketing won't help to keep you subbed for months and years. Are you telling me that majority of players are playing WOW for years because of marketing? sorry that doesn't even make any sense. No one is foolish enough to play a MMO for months if he/she is not enjoying it. The purpose of marketing is to make them buy the product, and if players dislike the product no amount of marketing can help keep them playing.
That is why i always fail to understand the sheep logic. How can anyone be a sheep for enjoying WOW? enjoyment is something individual and free of what other tells you. One maybe a sheep because he bought WOW since it is the most popular MMO in market but if you are going to tell me hey 'he is a sheep for enjoying something he genuienly likes' then i am going to disagree.
Also i find it very ironic because GW2 is also very popular and famous right now and millions of players are going to try it, so if i use your logic i should also label all future GW2 customers as a sheep? after all its the marketing and hype and many players are just going to buy GW2 on basis of what marketing and others have told them.
See what i did there? please try to use some common sense if you are going to label WOW players as sheep because it can be very well applied to GW2 itself.
Also those ppl say other MMO sucks as hell, but they say it month after release? WTF? WoW sucked more than any other MMO month after release.. Way till those games will be old as WoW. Or they just dont try as much content as they tried at WoW and they say it suck. And also some of em need rewards.. They dont count fun as a reward..
I hate to say it, but I played WoW from beta all the way up to the release of Wrath, and I've gotta tell you that WoW was much more complete and less broken then 99% of mmo's hitting their one year mark when it was in beta. Having played just about every AAA MMO since, WoW definately has always had the edge when it comes to content and polish. I mean it took Conan over a year to get sieges (The base mechanic of the Endgame) to work, and Warhammer was still trying to balance classes a year after release.
Blizzard uses WOW to harvest hours played into bottles so that the dev team can remain immortal
It's funny how many of you think that only Blizzards next MMO will kill WoW. That would be the most stupidest thing Blizz could make.. EVER. Why would they spend millions to make another MMO and just move their WoW playerbase to another game?? The next Blizz mmo will be something totally different to attract other types of players. They have their fantasy setting covered and wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot. Unless Kotick gets another "brilliant" idea.
On topic.. SWTOR and GW2 will both make a good dent in the WoW playerbase but they wont kill anything. As said before, everyone can play GW2 besides their P2P MMO. But I'm not sure how SWTOR will perform because it's really going head to head with WoW. Going to be interesting.
But WoW will die eventually and if more games like these two come out, it's only going to happen sooner. And THEN Blizz will make another fantasy MMO.
And if we're being quite honest I think everyone knows at this point, no MMO is going to be released and trump Warcraft's numbers. It would be like trying to release on operating system to compete with windows or a search engine to kill google. Blizzard has the best talent in the industry, they've taken the core forumla of MMO's and refined it to the point that anyone can get into it, and enmeshed Warcrafted so deeply into popculture that there is really no competing with them.
The way I see it the only way MMO companys will be able to thrive in the years to come is to innovate and do something completely different.
Blizzard uses WOW to harvest hours played into bottles so that the dev team can remain immortal
True that, if blizzard made such a huge success with WoW and that was their first mmo, I can't even comprehend how amazing their new project "Titan" will be.
They could also be a one hit wonder. I doubt even their next MMO will be half as popular as WoW.
GW2 or SWTOR easily because they already have a previous fan base. GW2 won it in my vote because people already somewhat know what to expect if they played the first game.
And if we're being quite honest I think everyone knows at this point, no MMO is going to be released and trump Warcraft's numbers. It would be like trying to release on operating system to compete with windows or a search engine to kill google. Blizzard has the best talent in the industry, they've taken the core forumla of MMO's and refined it to the point that anyone can get into it, and enmeshed Warcrafted so deeply into popculture that there is really no competing with them.
The way I see it the only way MMO companys will be able to thrive in the years to come is to innovate and do something completely different.
If we're looking at numbers, I can see GW2 having more players in the long run, than any other MMO in the past, including WoW. But as I said before, it's only because of it's B2P model and innovation. But that also means WoW wont have any direct competition from GW2, so WoWs numbers aren't going to fall either. At least not too much.
Speaking out of pure speculation here. I think it is going to be a combination of good options that finally takes WoW down, not so much one game, though that could potentially happen. WoW is getting older and there are a lot of good games that are coming out this year *crosses fingers for GW2* (IF...they do what they are claiming to do). It will be the masses leaving WoW to try one of two of those games that begins the death rattle of wow (if it ever will completely die). It may even take more games coming out in more years.
I'm currently playing wow right now and enjoying the new expansion but even I want something new (instead of the same old, same old, I might as well go back to wow rather than start over, kind of feeling).
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Originally posted by cyan85 On a more serious note...
You know what it's going to take to kill or compete with WoW? Look to Blockbuster Video for the answer. They were the industry leader for many, many years until an industry outsider (Netflix) trounced them. How'd they do it? They made Blockbuster's entire business model obsolete from the ground up. You see, it wasn't another video store that inevitably put Blockbuster into bankruptcy, it was a company/service with no experience in the field that approached things from an entirely different direction. This is the fate of most companies or products that have a monopoly on the market.
Will this happen to WoW? Ultimately it will, unless of course it simply fades over the course of time. Ironically Blockbuster had the oppurtunity to buy Netflix many times, which would have resulted in them retaining the status of industry leader. In the end, however, they thought the threat would come from other video rental stores; a fatal mistake. Obviously, Blizzard is a far smarter company than Blockbuster, so I don't see them going down this path. I think their next MMO is their equivalent of buying "Netflix" so to speak. It's going to be far different from WoW, if not the complete opposite in terms of gameplay, mechanics, etc. The only thing their new MMO will probably share with WoW will be the overall quality, accessibility, and polish.
So the true WoW killer will be Blizz's next MMO (most likely a sandbox with next gen graphics set in a high tech world). Of all the games listed in the original post, SWTOR is the only one I see offering any legit competition. It's a fantastic IP being made by a company with deep pockets and a proven track record. It does have obstacles however: Not everyone is into Star Wars or sci-fi fantasy settings and not every Star Wars fan is into the Old Republic lore. Also, if a large portion of the gameplay ends up being too similar to WoW...ouch.
well put. Gw2 is doing dynamic events, tor has a crew skill system, they both have interesting and innovative approaches to the genre. Problem is neither are making a change to the genre from the ground up. Both are still using levels and some sort of questing system with endgamr activities to keep players interested. It will take a fully realized and polished sandbox to truly change the genre.
WoW is going to have to compete with GW2,SWTOR,RIFT,TERA, etc etc. Maybe not directly but for the customer's interests in playing them. And on top of that WoW's own are looking for a good reason to bail on the game. And there are starting to be many of those.
True that, if blizzard made such a huge success with WoW and that was their first mmo, I can't even comprehend how amazing their new project "Titan" will be.
Didn't you learn at school that you can't construct a graph from a single datum?
And didn't you learn in history that the best indicator of the future is the past?
Rofl you completely missed his point. You make scientific assumptions based on a range of results not just one. No scientist worth his salt makes an assumption based on one result. There could be many factors that you don't know about or have no control that lead to that result, or it could just have been a fluke. Repetition improves accuracy.
Seriously what gives you the idea that blizzards next mmo will be as successful as WoW. It'll probably sell more than WoW did initially but what staying power do think it'll have. Companies have been trying to replicate WoWs success for years, why is so Blizzard special. The majority of people that originally made WoW aren't even in Blizzard anymore. All they have is lots of money and a brand name which many companies have had a still failed.
Good point, just because WoW is successful, doesnt mean that Blizzards 'next' game will be, wouldnt be the first time that an experienced developer messed up, a while ago i would have said that Square-enix would have been a safe bet, but their last couple of games, FFXIV AND FFXIII both bombed, so, thats not just an IP with a cult following but a company that previously could be perceived to be capable of doing no wrong, Perhaps its because there is more choice these days, and players are a bit more 'discerning' at least, they're less likely to accept rubbish no matter what the logo on it.. Just means that having preconceptions is a bad idea..
I didn't say it WILL be.....I said the past can indicate the future. It is true, there is not enough scientific data to determine what WILL be the next big thing, and due to that fact, we have to look at the indicators.
Blizzard's track record as a video game company indicates that they will do well in the future. It is not set in stone, but it is certainly logical to assume that they have a good possibility.
Reading between the lines, it seems you don't WANT Blizzard to beat itself, but, seriously, if they do, would you really be surprised?
I personally would be more surprised if they release a flop.
The thing is , you have to look at wow as being like a supermarket chain akin to tesco or walmart . Sure, competitors come up with new lines or better quality items or free offers/buy one get one free etc , but the big chain just adds some new lines or 'quality' items to its existing display , new stores in every town , free parking and so on.
Sure, you can go shop elsewhere , thats your choice , but if all else fails or your local minimarket dosent have what you want, you can always go to walmart to find what you want .
It's not that everyone who plays wow is dumb , its just that if you make a game that is challenging or requires dedication and time to get the most out of it , investors have enough information to realize that you immediately rule out a large proportion of the potential customers. People work , have school and real lives , and cant spend 10 hours a day every day on a game . They make a game that gives you gratification for doing very little. You just have to look at the achievement system in wow to realize this.
Wow opened up the mmo genre to the mainstream . Now you see wow on display at your local supermarket , a few years ago you would have to look real hard to find an mmo title in your local games store. They were niche . Fast internet has still to be available to most areas in several countries. Most computers that people buy from pc world or similar 'popular' big outlets are quite awful in terms of spec for games, but this is what your average 'new mmo player' is buying , and wow runs like a dream on them.
A lot of people looking to play the next big thing quote wanting 'next gen graphics' and a 'great IP' , but the reality as I see it is that this is itself self-defeating IF you want to compete with the likes of wow simply on sales and subscription. I bet a great many of the people playing wow now probably never knew much, if at all ,about the rts warcraft titles . IP only matters to true fanbois or to maybe attract initial interest . Star wars may attract some, but mention star wars to others and they think nerdy scifi stuff , wheres my elves ? And vice versa. Likewise Guild 'wars' will intially put off many who loathe any notion of pvp - it may or may not be pvp centric , but the name conjours up the idea you need to guild up and be at war with other guilds.
Blizzard , with their track record , could offer their new game as a subscription bundle to include wow after you bought the game , and many would buy it regardless. Sure, die hard mmo players would have a look or refuse to even go near the game , but they account for a relatively small number of the potential userbase . The game could be watching turds spin around a toilet bowl and it would get subscribed to .
truth be told i think TERA will be the better of off of those but time will only tell..but theres tons of fan boys that will go with gw2 and star wars.**btw imo i think SW is a fail no matter how you do it in a mmo**..but lets face it as long as wow keeps catering to the mass kiddies that like to play mmo's ..they will remain on top..they are smart to slowly morf their mmo into a VERY EASY mmo that VERY young kids can play...as long as theres wow ads out there on tv / video game stores and dads out there that will buy it...it will still remain on top for years to come
Good point, just because WoW is successful, doesnt mean that Blizzards 'next' game will be.
Perhaps that'd be a valid argument against any company but Blizzard and Valve. But at this point it's abundantly clear that both companies know how to consistently belt homeruns out of the park, every single time they step up to the plate.
(Disregarding my personal disappointment at War3 and the L4D series. Which were all fun games, but not as incredibly fun as the other releases from those companies.)
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
And if we're being quite honest I think everyone knows at this point, no MMO is going to be released and trump Warcraft's numbers. It would be like trying to release on operating system to compete with windows or a search engine to kill google. Blizzard has the best talent in the industry, they've taken the core forumla of MMO's and refined it to the point that anyone can get into it, and enmeshed Warcrafted so deeply into popculture that there is really no competing with them.
The way I see it the only way MMO companys will be able to thrive in the years to come is to innovate and do something completely different.
Pretty much this.
If and when the MMO industry as a whole eventually admits this obvious fact, we'll all be better off for it. In fact we'd be able to say that WoW and Blizzard will have done the MMO genre a huge favour by forcing their competitors to innovate.
And if we're being quite honest I think everyone knows at this point, no MMO is going to be released and trump Warcraft's numbers. It would be like trying to release on operating system to compete with windows or a search engine to kill google. Blizzard has the best talent in the industry, they've taken the core forumla of MMO's and refined it to the point that anyone can get into it, and enmeshed Warcrafted so deeply into popculture that there is really no competing with them.
The way I see it the only way MMO companys will be able to thrive in the years to come is to innovate and do something completely different.
Pretty much this.
If and when the MMO industry as a whole eventually admits this obvious fact, we'll all be better off for it. In fact we'd be able to say that WoW and Blizzard will have done the MMO genre a huge favour by forcing their competitors to innovate.
I agree on the blue. But isn't it sad that the only "innovation" comes in from such things as pre launch hype, voice overs, another bend in a river and one or two tunes in pve/pvp. "Look we got other stats too !".
Yea! A tiny twist in another mechanic (mostly even worse implemented) is hardly anything to jump around and say "WaauW, this is it".
Just from asking around base the two games that will "compete" with WoW will be diablo3, and SWTOR.
And by compete I mostly mean make WoW lose a few players out of two dozen or so people I asked. Most people don't even know the other games even exsist, and I even ran into another person who thought GW2 was just vapor-ware.
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I love how you overhype the games, too much stereotypes on every MMO forum I visit.
First of all those games are not even released and don't judge according to the stupid video's released by the companies just to hype you. We've seen and heard many MMO's as "WoW killer" and what not, guess what? None of them did it. WoW will never die. Why? Because if you have read, once they have finished with WoW their devs. will work on Warcraft 4, their new serie of Warcraft series. Their project is something we can't talk about and not to say that will *cough* "kill WoW".
TERA, GW2, RIFT, B&S, SW:TOR nothing will harm WoW's player base, those are those stereotypes created from the MMO websites and spreading false news that WoW is some kind of really awful game and yet it have over 12.5 million players around the world. Also those who spread this things have never ever tried WoW in the end-game and saying WoW is a bad game. Not to mention that Jake Song claims to take WoW down with that nooby MMO that he creates and it's unsuccessful according to the asian community. Plus Trion Worlds that they are in some kind of dream about making their game... I don't... triple A will bring WoW down from the MMO throne. TERA who requires your system to have minimum 2gb and the recomended is 4gb will never claims WoW's place because of their game's requirements. SW:ToR, since we already judging the game under their videos have dull combat, because it's unpolished. GW2 is B2P so WoW's players won't quit from WoW because they can log in GW when they want and level.
Also stop making this kind of nuisence post because there is no game that will claims WoW's throne. -.-
herp derp im an wow fanboy on rage mode?
IF a good mmo ever comes out that is polished ,appealing to the masses and good commercials.IT will take wow´s spot and don´t full urself that pc specs are the problems now. IF the young kids cry enough they get a new pc good enough for most mmorpgs they aren´t any more overpriced like years ago.
Also stop making this kind of nuisence post because there is no game that will claims WoW's throne. -.-
herp derp im an wow fanboy on rage mode?
IF a good mmo ever comes out that is polished ,appealing to the masses and good commercials.IT will take wow´s spot and don´t full urself that pc specs are the problems now. IF the young kids cry enough they get a new pc good enough for most mmorpgs they aren´t any more overpriced like years ago.
IF it would be that simple "polished, appealing and good commercials", it would already have happened after 6 years and say 20+ trials and using all of the hype, supporting websites and lores one can imagine.
It is not that simple.
You have to do better, be bigger, add more playing value and polish,even more so than you can imagine. Nothing even remotely "good" will suffice.
The advantage of having such a game and population is that for 95% of the people MMORPG = WOW these days. even those who left had their Hard Disks (brains) burned with WOW terminology.
Forget the 5% saying other things. People compare everything to WOW when new MMORPG's come out. In the first place the designers/developpers themselves are WOW brained.
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Here is what will happen: in the end more and more people will be dis/satisified with the genre, but as WOW will no longer grow, the rest of the mmo's will dwindle too. The mechanics are known and explored.
There is only a little fine tuning to be done with one or two micro scaled changes (oh look we start making Bg's with 3 servers battling over another instanced Bg (sorry warzone), or let's do some voice overs to try to make people play our game, or housing (as a game play feature (sic)).... : all Peanuts.
The next BIG game will not be a classical MMORPG. It will be something completely different. What will it be? Nobody knows, because if you would know then everyone would be making it...
But within the present day modes of the MMORPG's there is simply no way to replace WOW. Even if - by accident - you would find a tremendous new gaming option in this field, it would take 6 months and Blizzard would be adding it into their billion dollars printing machine.
Geographically spread they are immune to a one tric poney. They are spread all over this mmo field and the spread lays in the offer, the regions, the casual, the hardcore, the age, the cult.
Of course there WILL be another game with 1.5 billion dollars yearly revenue in X years time, but it will not be in the classical PC MMORPG genre as we know it. In fact COD already comes awfully close on a launched basis in revenue, but it isn't quite there yet (to gather 6 or 7 billion over 6 years time) and it is multi platform and it doesn't have a subscription ... yet.
The moment you will realise this, you'll be able to enjoy gaming again.
True that, if blizzard made such a huge success with WoW and that was their first mmo, I can't even comprehend how amazing their new project "Titan" will be.
Titan will come out 2 years after SWTOR after a proper gauge of its success, and blizzards new title Titan will have features from TOR, Guildwars 2, The secret World, tera online, rift and every other MMO in the last 12 years and then Titan will kill all current MMOs.
That is why blizzzard took over the first time, they are the only company that expands on features instead of just straight ripping them off cut and paste.
Ive no doubt thatt he only true wow killer will be blizzzard.
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That is why blizzzard took over the first time, they are the only company that expands on features instead of just straight ripping them off cut and paste.
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I voted GW2 because most of the other games on the list that I've been reading about look like they are going to be nothing more than WoW-Alternatives.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
I hate to say it, but I played WoW from beta all the way up to the release of Wrath, and I've gotta tell you that WoW was much more complete and less broken then 99% of mmo's hitting their one year mark when it was in beta. Having played just about every AAA MMO since, WoW definately has always had the edge when it comes to content and polish. I mean it took Conan over a year to get sieges (The base mechanic of the Endgame) to work, and Warhammer was still trying to balance classes a year after release.
Blizzard uses WOW to harvest hours played into bottles so that the dev team can remain immortal
It's funny how many of you think that only Blizzards next MMO will kill WoW. That would be the most stupidest thing Blizz could make.. EVER. Why would they spend millions to make another MMO and just move their WoW playerbase to another game?? The next Blizz mmo will be something totally different to attract other types of players. They have their fantasy setting covered and wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot. Unless Kotick gets another "brilliant" idea.
On topic.. SWTOR and GW2 will both make a good dent in the WoW playerbase but they wont kill anything. As said before, everyone can play GW2 besides their P2P MMO. But I'm not sure how SWTOR will perform because it's really going head to head with WoW. Going to be interesting.
But WoW will die eventually and if more games like these two come out, it's only going to happen sooner. And THEN Blizz will make another fantasy MMO.
Eat me!
And if we're being quite honest I think everyone knows at this point, no MMO is going to be released and trump Warcraft's numbers. It would be like trying to release on operating system to compete with windows or a search engine to kill google. Blizzard has the best talent in the industry, they've taken the core forumla of MMO's and refined it to the point that anyone can get into it, and enmeshed Warcrafted so deeply into popculture that there is really no competing with them.
The way I see it the only way MMO companys will be able to thrive in the years to come is to innovate and do something completely different.
Blizzard uses WOW to harvest hours played into bottles so that the dev team can remain immortal
They could also be a one hit wonder. I doubt even their next MMO will be half as popular as WoW.
GW2 or SWTOR easily because they already have a previous fan base. GW2 won it in my vote because people already somewhat know what to expect if they played the first game.
If we're looking at numbers, I can see GW2 having more players in the long run, than any other MMO in the past, including WoW. But as I said before, it's only because of it's B2P model and innovation. But that also means WoW wont have any direct competition from GW2, so WoWs numbers aren't going to fall either. At least not too much.
Eat me!
Speaking out of pure speculation here. I think it is going to be a combination of good options that finally takes WoW down, not so much one game, though that could potentially happen. WoW is getting older and there are a lot of good games that are coming out this year *crosses fingers for GW2* (IF...they do what they are claiming to do). It will be the masses leaving WoW to try one of two of those games that begins the death rattle of wow (if it ever will completely die). It may even take more games coming out in more years.
I'm currently playing wow right now and enjoying the new expansion but even I want something new (instead of the same old, same old, I might as well go back to wow rather than start over, kind of feeling).
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Looking Forward to: Wildstar
The poll is missing an option. All of them.
WoW is going to have to compete with GW2,SWTOR,RIFT,TERA, etc etc. Maybe not directly but for the customer's interests in playing them. And on top of that WoW's own are looking for a good reason to bail on the game. And there are starting to be many of those.
I didn't say it WILL be.....I said the past can indicate the future. It is true, there is not enough scientific data to determine what WILL be the next big thing, and due to that fact, we have to look at the indicators.
Blizzard's track record as a video game company indicates that they will do well in the future. It is not set in stone, but it is certainly logical to assume that they have a good possibility.
Reading between the lines, it seems you don't WANT Blizzard to beat itself, but, seriously, if they do, would you really be surprised?
I personally would be more surprised if they release a flop.
The thing is , you have to look at wow as being like a supermarket chain akin to tesco or walmart . Sure, competitors come up with new lines or better quality items or free offers/buy one get one free etc , but the big chain just adds some new lines or 'quality' items to its existing display , new stores in every town , free parking and so on.
Sure, you can go shop elsewhere , thats your choice , but if all else fails or your local minimarket dosent have what you want, you can always go to walmart to find what you want .
It's not that everyone who plays wow is dumb , its just that if you make a game that is challenging or requires dedication and time to get the most out of it , investors have enough information to realize that you immediately rule out a large proportion of the potential customers. People work , have school and real lives , and cant spend 10 hours a day every day on a game . They make a game that gives you gratification for doing very little. You just have to look at the achievement system in wow to realize this.
Wow opened up the mmo genre to the mainstream . Now you see wow on display at your local supermarket , a few years ago you would have to look real hard to find an mmo title in your local games store. They were niche . Fast internet has still to be available to most areas in several countries. Most computers that people buy from pc world or similar 'popular' big outlets are quite awful in terms of spec for games, but this is what your average 'new mmo player' is buying , and wow runs like a dream on them.
A lot of people looking to play the next big thing quote wanting 'next gen graphics' and a 'great IP' , but the reality as I see it is that this is itself self-defeating IF you want to compete with the likes of wow simply on sales and subscription. I bet a great many of the people playing wow now probably never knew much, if at all ,about the rts warcraft titles . IP only matters to true fanbois or to maybe attract initial interest . Star wars may attract some, but mention star wars to others and they think nerdy scifi stuff , wheres my elves ? And vice versa. Likewise Guild 'wars' will intially put off many who loathe any notion of pvp - it may or may not be pvp centric , but the name conjours up the idea you need to guild up and be at war with other guilds.
Blizzard , with their track record , could offer their new game as a subscription bundle to include wow after you bought the game , and many would buy it regardless. Sure, die hard mmo players would have a look or refuse to even go near the game , but they account for a relatively small number of the potential userbase . The game could be watching turds spin around a toilet bowl and it would get subscribed to .
truth be told i think TERA will be the better of off of those but time will only tell..but theres tons of fan boys that will go with gw2 and star wars.**btw imo i think SW is a fail no matter how you do it in a mmo**..but lets face it as long as wow keeps catering to the mass kiddies that like to play mmo's ..they will remain on top..they are smart to slowly morf their mmo into a VERY EASY mmo that VERY young kids can play...as long as theres wow ads out there on tv / video game stores and dads out there that will buy it...it will still remain on top for years to come
Perhaps that'd be a valid argument against any company but Blizzard and Valve. But at this point it's abundantly clear that both companies know how to consistently belt homeruns out of the park, every single time they step up to the plate.
(Disregarding my personal disappointment at War3 and the L4D series. Which were all fun games, but not as incredibly fun as the other releases from those companies.)
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
Pretty much this.
If and when the MMO industry as a whole eventually admits this obvious fact, we'll all be better off for it. In fact we'd be able to say that WoW and Blizzard will have done the MMO genre a huge favour by forcing their competitors to innovate.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
I agree on the blue. But isn't it sad that the only "innovation" comes in from such things as pre launch hype, voice overs, another bend in a river and one or two tunes in pve/pvp. "Look we got other stats too !".
Yea! A tiny twist in another mechanic (mostly even worse implemented) is hardly anything to jump around and say "WaauW, this is it".
Just from asking around base the two games that will "compete" with WoW will be diablo3, and SWTOR.
And by compete I mostly mean make WoW lose a few players out of two dozen or so people I asked. Most people don't even know the other games even exsist, and I even ran into another person who thought GW2 was just vapor-ware.
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I voted other.
I imagine for me it will be the same it has for the last couple of years.
I'll quit world of warcraft for awhile, then come back.
Warhammer was fun for awhile
I like playing LOTRO, now they just need a dungeon finder like WoW. Maybe a few small changes to Monster Play.
Rift is Fail.
Tera, looks to eastern for me.
There is only one opinion that matters.
herp derp im an wow fanboy on rage mode?
IF a good mmo ever comes out that is polished ,appealing to the masses and good commercials.IT will take wow´s spot and don´t full urself that pc specs are the problems now. IF the young kids cry enough they get a new pc good enough for most mmorpgs they aren´t any more overpriced like years ago.
The competitor to WoW will be... nothing.
Guild Wars 2 will probably sell the most of the new MMORPGs even more than SWOTOR since it's free to play.
IF it would be that simple "polished, appealing and good commercials", it would already have happened after 6 years and say 20+ trials and using all of the hype, supporting websites and lores one can imagine.
It is not that simple.
You have to do better, be bigger, add more playing value and polish,even more so than you can imagine. Nothing even remotely "good" will suffice.
The advantage of having such a game and population is that for 95% of the people MMORPG = WOW these days. even those who left had their Hard Disks (brains) burned with WOW terminology.
Forget the 5% saying other things. People compare everything to WOW when new MMORPG's come out. In the first place the designers/developpers themselves are WOW brained.
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Here is what will happen: in the end more and more people will be dis/satisified with the genre, but as WOW will no longer grow, the rest of the mmo's will dwindle too. The mechanics are known and explored.
There is only a little fine tuning to be done with one or two micro scaled changes (oh look we start making Bg's with 3 servers battling over another instanced Bg (sorry warzone), or let's do some voice overs to try to make people play our game, or housing (as a game play feature (sic)).... : all Peanuts.
The next BIG game will not be a classical MMORPG. It will be something completely different. What will it be? Nobody knows, because if you would know then everyone would be making it...
But within the present day modes of the MMORPG's there is simply no way to replace WOW. Even if - by accident - you would find a tremendous new gaming option in this field, it would take 6 months and Blizzard would be adding it into their billion dollars printing machine.
Geographically spread they are immune to a one tric poney. They are spread all over this mmo field and the spread lays in the offer, the regions, the casual, the hardcore, the age, the cult.
Of course there WILL be another game with 1.5 billion dollars yearly revenue in X years time, but it will not be in the classical PC MMORPG genre as we know it. In fact COD already comes awfully close on a launched basis in revenue, but it isn't quite there yet (to gather 6 or 7 billion over 6 years time) and it is multi platform and it doesn't have a subscription ... yet.
The moment you will realise this, you'll be able to enjoy gaming again.
Titan will come out 2 years after SWTOR after a proper gauge of its success, and blizzards new title Titan will have features from TOR, Guildwars 2, The secret World, tera online, rift and every other MMO in the last 12 years and then Titan will kill all current MMOs.
That is why blizzzard took over the first time, they are the only company that expands on features instead of just straight ripping them off cut and paste.
Ive no doubt thatt he only true wow killer will be blizzzard.
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I find it sad that you actually believe that.
A more interesting poll would be asking how many similar threads to this one allready got created.