wow appears like it has the worst community only because it has by far the most players of any mmo there is. When you have that many people in a game, you are bound to run into a lot of assholes. There is simply no way to avoid them completely with those numbers.
I've said it before in the past, the game I think that has the worst community of an MMO is Global Agenda. Fun game, intolerable community that comes nowhere near close to wow numbers(oddly enough, which makes me choose this game out of many others). First game I ever stopped playing because the people in general were so vile, no matter how much I isolated myself from them.
WoW is directly responsible for almost every MMO that was developed after it. MMO's that are currently in development likely got funded because of the desire for a piece of it's market share. EVERYONE that plays online games should be thanking Blizzard for making it. If WoW had failed, whatever game you're playing right now probably wouldn't have even been made.
That is just stupid. I bet your one of those people who thinks Wow is the first MMO. Spoiler alert. It isnt.
You could say that every mmo in existence came from its predecessors.
I give more credit to everquest and daoc than to wow for having GOOD influence to the mmo genre. From what I know, most current game mechanics for mmos come from EQ1.
First of all, I am 38 years old and have likely been using a computer since before you were even born, so I do happen to realize that WoW was not the first MMO. I am actually looking at my original box of Warcraft: Orcs & Humans right now.
On top of that, you are completely missing my point. No game before or since has even REMOTELY seen the kind of popularity that WoW has. Sure games like UO and Everquest were popular in the computer gaming world, but WoW has become a cultural phenomenon. If you stop 100 people on the street, most of them will know what WoW is, almost NONE of them will have ever heard of UO or Everquest.
I am not trying to praise WoW, I don't even play the damned game. I am simply pointing out that it's responsible for the popularity, and therefore success, of an entire genre of games. You simply cannot deny that, because it is fact.
If Romero hadn't made Night of the Living Dead, then we probably wouldn't have 28 Days Later. Get it? Probably not... but at least I tried, right?
If all the idiotic wow chatter bugs you just do what i do. Actually 99% of chatter in general channels bugs me.
Any new game i start the FIRST thing i do is turn off all the channels other than say and tell. Problem solved. I never have to be subjected to another persons stupidity unless they decide to send me a tell.
In all honesty, you don't need to close the general channel of most games. Fallen Earth and LOTRO were two recent games that I played and not only the main channels were not full of garbage, but were extremely helpful to new players.
Not that any one will read this but as I see it the resins for what you perceive as elitism comes from a few basic concepts.
First, there are so many WoW players just about any general statement about them will be true for some of them.
Second, It is a vary easy game to play when compared to the game that where out when it came out.
Third, As much as players are always looking for the WoW killer the industry knows better. WoW is like the Star Wars franchise as much as I love it and its part of my chilled hood if you really look at it the whole thing is schlock. Lucas did a great job of creating a market for it but really just about the whole thing is taken from some other place.
Forth, Wow is the McDonalds of the dinning experience. You do not go to McDonalds if you want fine dining you go there for quick easy food and that fact it is around does not really hurt the fine dinning numbers. Let me explain that a little more simplistically for clarities sake. The massive numbers WoW has where not taken from the people who were looking for a MMORPG yes some are but the vast majority where brought into the genre by WoW and it has increased the numbers for the other games by finding new players who now play MMORPG.
If you played any other game you'd now that at release alot of WoW players flock it.
Then they ONLY talk about WoW, if you're in another game only talking about WoW (and not talking, spamming the chats) eventually people get fed up and tell you to simply go play that game.
This has happened in ALL major releases since WoW got out.
General chat in any new game devolves into fights about WoW. It is not really the game's fault but the community the game engenders tend to discuss it obnoxiously in the chat channels and fights inevitably ensue and the chat channels are ruined as a result. Even if it is but a few individuals the damage is done and people associate trouble in chat channels to WoW players.
Here's my take on it. WoW players seem to spell better and have a better grasp of grammar, so the players of other games are jealous.
*edit* This is half joking, half serious, but I think Rivalen has the most relevant point. People are just tired of hearing about WoW. Even if they play WoW they're tired of hearing about it.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
wow appears like it has the worst community only because it has by far the most players of any mmo there is.
It dusnt appear to be, it is.
the amount of people on 1 wow server is about equal to that of 1 server of for instance LOTRO
yet the community on that 1 server of LOTRO is way way better then that of that 1 server of WoW.
12 mill people dont play on 1 server so dont use it as excuse
I've played on wow servers that could probably rival that of a community of Fallen Earth. Again, with the amount of players that play on wow, a staggering 12 million across tons of servers, you are bound to run into less than civil people, and some servers have more than others. The babbling retards that I've dealt with on wow were vastly outnumbered by mature, intelligent people, and I've been on at least 5 servers over a period of 6 years, all toons max leveled.
IT not being Elite in any way there's only so much childish behaviour one can stand. 10 minutes of omg chuck norris did this would make anybody sick.
Honestly the wow community and how they act in their chat channels is well known and well deserved.
I can always spot them when they come to the games I play they be like omg I level XX now look at me, and chuck norris did this. You immediately get turned off.
Now I am sure there are those who act in a more mature way, and I don't mind that at all, but for the most part you can spot them from a mile off acting like they are 5 year old children, with their omg chuck norris jokes.
I will admit we get the same kind of folks in other games who act that way, you just stick them on ignore, however wow has earned the title of we got the most children playing.
It would not be so bad if they did not fill up the chatt channes with all their stpidity. Quite frankly I don't care if they come from wow to play the gams I am in as long as I don't hear chuck norris did this and omg i came from wow im the greates bla bla bla.
Your current girlfriend doesn't care to hear how much better time you had with your ex. Insisting on that point will only lead to her pointing at the door and that ex.
Surprisingly enough, the above translates perfectly in MMO terms. It's not elitism, it's how much tolerance one can have towards an obnoxious behaviour.
I haven't seen a chuck norris joke in years. What pisses me off to no end is seeing a endless torrent of 4chan memes, or people just calling others gay slurs for no reason, people being personally attacked when they ask for help in the game, etc. wow has plenty of trash in their game, but is it really fair to judge a game of that size when there are games smaller than it that are just as bad or worse? All I know is that I'm so glad /ignore is a common feature in MMOs, no amount of epic gear can beat that.
In the last beta event for Rift, the population predictably surged and many of the new players I'm convinced only pre-ordered the game so they could get in the beta and spend their time bashing the game and making a general nuisance of themselves. General chat turned quickly into Barrens chat. Courtesy's absence was a sharp contrast to the previous events. NPCs in a low-level area were killed and missing in the typical "Tarren Mills" provocation attack. At one point, one ray of sunshine, upon hearing that the opposing faction was undergoing a massive GM rift invasion, started recruiting to zerg the other faction while they were under siege. All this on a PvE-RP server.
Already posters on the official forum are starting to appear and proclaim that their goal in Rift is to gank other players. These are often the same type who have all sorts of "way cool" demands for increasing open PvP on PvE servers. The campaign to "nerf the class that beat me" are in full swing. I'm hoping that Trion turns a deaf ear to these tantrums and instead urges the PvP enthusiasts to play on the servers established specifically for them.
Being a fringe player in WoW for the biggest part of the past 6 years, it was easy to spot the former WoW misfits. They've once again descended on an upcoming title and begun to demand that it be made just like WoW. I think the most defining image I have of this horde is when I was questing in the King's Retreat hub and came upon a lone player, tar too high a level for the zone, decked out in the best equipment and mounted on the highest level available mount, just sitting in the middle of the camp. How many times have I seen this?
The stigma is well-earned. Blizzard was too lazy to rein in this behavior at the start and now every other game is going to have to deal with them. Good luck to Trion, En Masse, Bioware, and ArenaNet. They're going to need it.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II "People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
Its because WoW players should stay in Azeroth if they think the game is godly. Its like WoW players go onto other MMOs and bash the game and try to get people to come to WoW(Blizzard is and condones these people IMO). It is obvious they went to other MMOs because WoW was going into a cataclysm of poop. I don't blame them. Doing the same thing over and over again gets boring. THats why I play multiple F2Ps
So wait, let me get thsi straight.
If a WoW Player is bored of WoW, and looking for a new MMORPG, and plays and test it,
but they arent allowed to give negeative feedback because of the simple fact that they are WoW Players?
Hey Warhammer had their feedback system set up like that. Ignored anything a WoW player said.
Hey how did that turn out again?
Let me try and wrap my head around your convoluted logic. You've been playing WoW for the longest time and are now bored with it so you decide to try something new. You claim you're tired of the features but once you enter the new game's environment all you can do is bemoan the lack of features YOU'VE GROWN BORED OF IN OTHER GAMES.
Like the other posters have said in their "ex-girlfriend analogy". You keep telling your new girlfriend about how awesome your EX was, she's just going to show you the door and wonder why you broke up with her to begin with.
I'm sure whoever told you to to "go back to Azeroth" only did so because of your comment just before that response, or better yet the slur of comments that came from you and the other people inclined as you are to demand features in a new game that you grew tired of in the old game.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
Its because WoW players should stay in Azeroth if they think the game is godly. Its like WoW players go onto other MMOs and bash the game and try to get people to come to WoW(Blizzard is and condones these people IMO). It is obvious they went to other MMOs because WoW was going into a cataclysm of poop. I don't blame them. Doing the same thing over and over again gets boring. THats why I play multiple F2Ps
So wait, let me get thsi straight.
If a WoW Player is bored of WoW, and looking for a new MMORPG, and plays and test it,
but they arent allowed to give negeative feedback because of the simple fact that they are WoW Players?
Hey Warhammer had their feedback system set up like that. Ignored anything a WoW player said.
Hey how did that turn out again?
YOu can say what you want, but the trolls in the global chat on every game I have played talking about wow are annoying as hell and mostly every normal player can't stand them. Yea sure, you can go in an mmo and bash it and say what you want.. If you didn't pay a sub I think you should get either your chat privildges revoked or booted from the game. Anyhow , people are allowed to annoy the hell out of you. You block one and here comes some other wow/player slash troll.
Well, me...I thought WoW was a truly great game...played it for a couple years...BUT....there were just too many wowbrats...begging, nude dancing on the auctioneers so you couldn't tag them, seemed half the population couldn't make a sentence wothout at least 2 varieties of the f-word, constant silly little scams, cybering, most seemed to think dps was the only thing important in a fight, ooc rudeness competitions....just so much immaturity you couldn't enjoy yourself.
...and that's where the elitism comes in from folks playing games that cater to a more mature player base....they don't want their game world infected with the same "look at me" silliness.
Half the reason that people dislike WOW players in other games is they fill up chat with WOW comparisons. Even in games with RP prefered servers general chat is full of WOW chatter. When you politely ask them to take it to private you are berated for being an anti WOW elitist and a roleplayer.
Really? I find that in many of the other games I play, people are contantly bringing up WoW to bash it without any help from the WoW fanbois. In fact, I have done three of the Rift beta events and every fifteen minutes, people will invariably start comparing Rift to WoW and how Rift is superior in every way and all kinds of malarky in some kind of feux attempt to justify bashing WoW. Invariably, this lead to the elitists mouthing off against the WoW playerbase and fortelling doom for the game if WoW players show up in force.
What I find is that nerds are no less prone to drama and hyperbole than a pack of valley girls.
Well, me...I thought WoW was a truly great game...played it for a couple years...BUT....there were just too many wowbrats...begging, nude dancing on the auctioneers so you couldn't tag them, seemed half the population couldn't make a sentence wothout at least 2 varieties of the f-word, constant silly little scams, cybering, most seemed to think dps was the only thing important in a fight, ooc rudeness competitions....just so much immaturity you couldn't enjoy yourself.
...and that's where the elitism comes in from folks playing games that cater to a more mature player base....they don't want their game world infected with the same "look at me" silliness.
Why do you assume that the majority of those asshats are young kids? I've come across more adults acting badly in these games than those who admit to being pre-pubescent.
Well, me...I thought WoW was a truly great game...played it for a couple years...BUT....there were just too many wowbrats...begging, nude dancing on the auctioneers so you couldn't tag them, seemed half the population couldn't make a sentence wothout at least 2 varieties of the f-word, constant silly little scams, cybering, most seemed to think dps was the only thing important in a fight, ooc rudeness competitions....just so much immaturity you couldn't enjoy yourself.
...and that's where the elitism comes in from folks playing games that cater to a more mature player base....they don't want their game world infected with the same "look at me" silliness.
I would venture to say that proportionally WoW has more mature players (over 20 if you can even call that mature these days) than most other MMO's.
Honestly, this whole "everyone that plays WoW is a fetus" thing is soooo played out.
I played for YEARS and had someone younger than 18 in a guild I was in maybe 2-3 times, and they were usually pretty cool since they were surrounded by adults. With the amount of people that play there are bound to be rotten apples, but don't pretend like it's EVERYWHERE, because that's not even remotely true. Millions of adults play the game, and I'm not just talking about young adults in their tweenties. I'm talking about working professionals.
Your generalizations are just that, generalizations, and make you look dead wrong and petty at best.
WoW is the major trend in MMO world. Consequently there will be those who oppose it simply because it's trendy. Ahh the anti-trend, it's about as trendy as any trend could ever be. Ironic isn't it.
Well, me...I thought WoW was a truly great game...played it for a couple years...BUT....there were just too many wowbrats...begging, nude dancing on the auctioneers so you couldn't tag them, seemed half the population couldn't make a sentence wothout at least 2 varieties of the f-word, constant silly little scams, cybering, most seemed to think dps was the only thing important in a fight, ooc rudeness competitions....just so much immaturity you couldn't enjoy yourself.
...and that's where the elitism comes in from folks playing games that cater to a more mature player base....they don't want their game world infected with the same "look at me" silliness.
I would venture to say that proportionally WoW has more mature players (over 20 if you can even call that mature these days) than most other MMO's.
Honestly, this whole "everyone that plays WoW is a fetus" thing is soooo played out.
I played for YEARS and had someone younger than 18 in a guild I was in maybe 2-3 times, and they were usually pretty cool since they were surrounded by adults. With the amount of people that play there are bound to be rotten apples, but don't pretend like it's EVERYWHERE, because that's not even remotely true. Millions of adults play the game, and I'm not just talking about young adults in their tweenties. I'm talking about working professionals.
Your generalizations are just that, generalizations, and make you look dead wrong and petty at best.
WoW is the major trend in MMO world. Consequently there will be those who oppose it simply because it's trendy. Ahh the anti-trend, it's about as trendy as any trend could ever be. Ironic isn't it.
I aologise to thr last two posters...I wasn't clear...by immaturity I did not mean age...after all, you really can't see age on the internet and while youth is more prone to immaterity, they definitly don't have an exclusive on such behavior,
I was recently playing a beta of a very hyped game. They let in Curse and Fileplanet subscribers. There was a substantial change in the atmosphere of the game. While Curse and Fileplanet and WoW players aren't all the same, there is a definite change in the community when those users come en masse.
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.
I think most of you are missing the point. Blizzard has poluted the water supplies around the world with a drug that causes the subliminal messages in WOW to corrupt normal peoples minds and make them into horrible rude people who will defend wow (which is a horrible game with no content or wit or endgame or social networks or cute cuddleyness) to their dying breaths. This drug also causes them to do trials on new games to try to turn the partially immune (or perhaps non water drinkers) into followers of the Blizzard God. It is a conspiracy of worldwide implications. Light the torches and lets all storm anaheim before we are all turned into Wowsers!!! MMO fans Unite!!!
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wow appears like it has the worst community only because it has by far the most players of any mmo there is. When you have that many people in a game, you are bound to run into a lot of assholes. There is simply no way to avoid them completely with those numbers.
I've said it before in the past, the game I think that has the worst community of an MMO is Global Agenda. Fun game, intolerable community that comes nowhere near close to wow numbers(oddly enough, which makes me choose this game out of many others). First game I ever stopped playing because the people in general were so vile, no matter how much I isolated myself from them.
This thread is such a rip from the WoW forums. L2BOriginal.
=P
First of all, I am 38 years old and have likely been using a computer since before you were even born, so I do happen to realize that WoW was not the first MMO. I am actually looking at my original box of Warcraft: Orcs & Humans right now.
On top of that, you are completely missing my point. No game before or since has even REMOTELY seen the kind of popularity that WoW has. Sure games like UO and Everquest were popular in the computer gaming world, but WoW has become a cultural phenomenon. If you stop 100 people on the street, most of them will know what WoW is, almost NONE of them will have ever heard of UO or Everquest.
I am not trying to praise WoW, I don't even play the damned game. I am simply pointing out that it's responsible for the popularity, and therefore success, of an entire genre of games. You simply cannot deny that, because it is fact.
If Romero hadn't made Night of the Living Dead, then we probably wouldn't have 28 Days Later. Get it? Probably not... but at least I tried, right?
If all the idiotic wow chatter bugs you just do what i do. Actually 99% of chatter in general channels bugs me.
Any new game i start the FIRST thing i do is turn off all the channels other than say and tell. Problem solved. I never have to be subjected to another persons stupidity unless they decide to send me a tell.
In all honesty, you don't need to close the general channel of most games. Fallen Earth and LOTRO were two recent games that I played and not only the main channels were not full of garbage, but were extremely helpful to new players.
@ the OP:
Ever join a new MMORPG and see people saying stuff like -
" LOL this game is just like WoW "
or
" this stupid game is such a wow copy, if i wanted to play wow i'd play wow"
or people will come into eve asking stuff like:
"hay guise...where the first dungeon at?"
"guise i need a new quest" MISSIONS RETARD MISSIONS
"man this game sucks, wow is so much bettter" THEN GTFO AND GO PLAY WOW
THAT'S why no one likes WoW players. Because WoW players DO IT TO THEMSELVES.
And they deserve it.
So GTFO.
It dusnt appear to be, it is.
the amount of people on 1 wow server is about equal to that of 1 server of for instance LOTRO
yet the community on that 1 server of LOTRO is way way better then that of that 1 server of WoW.
12 mill people dont play on 1 server so dont use it as excuse
Not that any one will read this but as I see it the resins for what you perceive as elitism comes from a few basic concepts.
First, there are so many WoW players just about any general statement about them will be true for some of them.
Second, It is a vary easy game to play when compared to the game that where out when it came out.
Third, As much as players are always looking for the WoW killer the industry knows better. WoW is like the Star Wars franchise as much as I love it and its part of my chilled hood if you really look at it the whole thing is schlock. Lucas did a great job of creating a market for it but really just about the whole thing is taken from some other place.
Forth, Wow is the McDonalds of the dinning experience. You do not go to McDonalds if you want fine dining you go there for quick easy food and that fact it is around does not really hurt the fine dinning numbers. Let me explain that a little more simplistically for clarities sake. The massive numbers WoW has where not taken from the people who were looking for a MMORPG yes some are but the vast majority where brought into the genre by WoW and it has increased the numbers for the other games by finding new players who now play MMORPG.
It's not elitism.
If you played any other game you'd now that at release alot of WoW players flock it.
Then they ONLY talk about WoW, if you're in another game only talking about WoW (and not talking, spamming the chats) eventually people get fed up and tell you to simply go play that game.
This has happened in ALL major releases since WoW got out.
General chat in any new game devolves into fights about WoW. It is not really the game's fault but the community the game engenders tend to discuss it obnoxiously in the chat channels and fights inevitably ensue and the chat channels are ruined as a result. Even if it is but a few individuals the damage is done and people associate trouble in chat channels to WoW players.
Here's my take on it. WoW players seem to spell better and have a better grasp of grammar, so the players of other games are jealous.
*edit* This is half joking, half serious, but I think Rivalen has the most relevant point. People are just tired of hearing about WoW. Even if they play WoW they're tired of hearing about it.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
I've played on wow servers that could probably rival that of a community of Fallen Earth. Again, with the amount of players that play on wow, a staggering 12 million across tons of servers, you are bound to run into less than civil people, and some servers have more than others. The babbling retards that I've dealt with on wow were vastly outnumbered by mature, intelligent people, and I've been on at least 5 servers over a period of 6 years, all toons max leveled.
IT not being Elite in any way there's only so much childish behaviour one can stand. 10 minutes of omg chuck norris did this would make anybody sick.
Honestly the wow community and how they act in their chat channels is well known and well deserved.
I can always spot them when they come to the games I play they be like omg I level XX now look at me, and chuck norris did this. You immediately get turned off.
Now I am sure there are those who act in a more mature way, and I don't mind that at all, but for the most part you can spot them from a mile off acting like they are 5 year old children, with their omg chuck norris jokes.
I will admit we get the same kind of folks in other games who act that way, you just stick them on ignore, however wow has earned the title of we got the most children playing.
It would not be so bad if they did not fill up the chatt channes with all their stpidity. Quite frankly I don't care if they come from wow to play the gams I am in as long as I don't hear chuck norris did this and omg i came from wow im the greates bla bla bla.
Your current girlfriend doesn't care to hear how much better time you had with your ex. Insisting on that point will only lead to her pointing at the door and that ex.
Surprisingly enough, the above translates perfectly in MMO terms. It's not elitism, it's how much tolerance one can have towards an obnoxious behaviour.
I haven't seen a chuck norris joke in years. What pisses me off to no end is seeing a endless torrent of 4chan memes, or people just calling others gay slurs for no reason, people being personally attacked when they ask for help in the game, etc. wow has plenty of trash in their game, but is it really fair to judge a game of that size when there are games smaller than it that are just as bad or worse? All I know is that I'm so glad /ignore is a common feature in MMOs, no amount of epic gear can beat that.
In the last beta event for Rift, the population predictably surged and many of the new players I'm convinced only pre-ordered the game so they could get in the beta and spend their time bashing the game and making a general nuisance of themselves. General chat turned quickly into Barrens chat. Courtesy's absence was a sharp contrast to the previous events. NPCs in a low-level area were killed and missing in the typical "Tarren Mills" provocation attack. At one point, one ray of sunshine, upon hearing that the opposing faction was undergoing a massive GM rift invasion, started recruiting to zerg the other faction while they were under siege. All this on a PvE-RP server.
Already posters on the official forum are starting to appear and proclaim that their goal in Rift is to gank other players. These are often the same type who have all sorts of "way cool" demands for increasing open PvP on PvE servers. The campaign to "nerf the class that beat me" are in full swing. I'm hoping that Trion turns a deaf ear to these tantrums and instead urges the PvP enthusiasts to play on the servers established specifically for them.
Being a fringe player in WoW for the biggest part of the past 6 years, it was easy to spot the former WoW misfits. They've once again descended on an upcoming title and begun to demand that it be made just like WoW. I think the most defining image I have of this horde is when I was questing in the King's Retreat hub and came upon a lone player, tar too high a level for the zone, decked out in the best equipment and mounted on the highest level available mount, just sitting in the middle of the camp. How many times have I seen this?
The stigma is well-earned. Blizzard was too lazy to rein in this behavior at the start and now every other game is going to have to deal with them. Good luck to Trion, En Masse, Bioware, and ArenaNet. They're going to need it.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II
"People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
Let me try and wrap my head around your convoluted logic. You've been playing WoW for the longest time and are now bored with it so you decide to try something new. You claim you're tired of the features but once you enter the new game's environment all you can do is bemoan the lack of features YOU'VE GROWN BORED OF IN OTHER GAMES.
Like the other posters have said in their "ex-girlfriend analogy". You keep telling your new girlfriend about how awesome your EX was, she's just going to show you the door and wonder why you broke up with her to begin with.
I'm sure whoever told you to to "go back to Azeroth" only did so because of your comment just before that response, or better yet the slur of comments that came from you and the other people inclined as you are to demand features in a new game that you grew tired of in the old game.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
YOu can say what you want, but the trolls in the global chat on every game I have played talking about wow are annoying as hell and mostly every normal player can't stand them. Yea sure, you can go in an mmo and bash it and say what you want.. If you didn't pay a sub I think you should get either your chat privildges revoked or booted from the game. Anyhow , people are allowed to annoy the hell out of you. You block one and here comes some other wow/player slash troll.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
Well, me...I thought WoW was a truly great game...played it for a couple years...BUT....there were just too many wowbrats...begging, nude dancing on the auctioneers so you couldn't tag them, seemed half the population couldn't make a sentence wothout at least 2 varieties of the f-word, constant silly little scams, cybering, most seemed to think dps was the only thing important in a fight, ooc rudeness competitions....just so much immaturity you couldn't enjoy yourself.
...and that's where the elitism comes in from folks playing games that cater to a more mature player base....they don't want their game world infected with the same "look at me" silliness.
Really? I find that in many of the other games I play, people are contantly bringing up WoW to bash it without any help from the WoW fanbois. In fact, I have done three of the Rift beta events and every fifteen minutes, people will invariably start comparing Rift to WoW and how Rift is superior in every way and all kinds of malarky in some kind of feux attempt to justify bashing WoW. Invariably, this lead to the elitists mouthing off against the WoW playerbase and fortelling doom for the game if WoW players show up in force.
What I find is that nerds are no less prone to drama and hyperbole than a pack of valley girls.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
Why do you assume that the majority of those asshats are young kids? I've come across more adults acting badly in these games than those who admit to being pre-pubescent.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I would venture to say that proportionally WoW has more mature players (over 20 if you can even call that mature these days) than most other MMO's.
Honestly, this whole "everyone that plays WoW is a fetus" thing is soooo played out.
I played for YEARS and had someone younger than 18 in a guild I was in maybe 2-3 times, and they were usually pretty cool since they were surrounded by adults. With the amount of people that play there are bound to be rotten apples, but don't pretend like it's EVERYWHERE, because that's not even remotely true. Millions of adults play the game, and I'm not just talking about young adults in their tweenties. I'm talking about working professionals.
Your generalizations are just that, generalizations, and make you look dead wrong and petty at best.
WoW is the major trend in MMO world. Consequently there will be those who oppose it simply because it's trendy. Ahh the anti-trend, it's about as trendy as any trend could ever be. Ironic isn't it.
I was recently playing a beta of a very hyped game. They let in Curse and Fileplanet subscribers. There was a substantial change in the atmosphere of the game. While Curse and Fileplanet and WoW players aren't all the same, there is a definite change in the community when those users come en masse.
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.
I think most of you are missing the point. Blizzard has poluted the water supplies around the world with a drug that causes the subliminal messages in WOW to corrupt normal peoples minds and make them into horrible rude people who will defend wow (which is a horrible game with no content or wit or endgame or social networks or cute cuddleyness) to their dying breaths. This drug also causes them to do trials on new games to try to turn the partially immune (or perhaps non water drinkers) into followers of the Blizzard God. It is a conspiracy of worldwide implications. Light the torches and lets all storm anaheim before we are all turned into Wowsers!!! MMO fans Unite!!!
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