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The Combat Gameplay in Rift is major disappointment. Its not fun.

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  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by Qazz

    Originally posted by sungodra

    things like Animations, Character Creation and Gear Models....

    Well, the game isn't released yet, so maybe they'll work on it a bit more.  I'm not holding my breath, but you never know :P

     Your AION video definately makes me miss my chanter....  The only problem with your RIFT VS AION  combat is that you are playing on a lvl 50+ chanter(or gladiator, I did a double take on that) (with the graphics maxed out I might add) vs a Level 5 Rift toon... appearing that you lowered the graphics in rift to make AION seem more appealing.

     

    Yes, I agree AION is an epic game, despite what some of the ppl on these boards try to say, but you are not giving rift a fair shake here.   I would still be playing aion if it wasn't for NCsoft and their reckless  swinging of the banhammer.

     

     

    EDIT**** After reviewing your aion video again I realized that the first toon was your gladiator, and the second toon was your chanter.

    I actually lowered the graphics on both, since everything craps out when I'm using fraps.  The point was the animation, not the graphics.  

    My Aion toons have more skills for sure (The Glad is level 23, and the Chanter is 43), but the video does show enough of both to give viewers a basic idea of what the animations look like in the two games.

     I have my own aion video... It is pretty old, and the chanter is much higher level now, but I think you will enjoy it. My favorite part of the game

     

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Crystalballer274?feature=mhum

     

    Anyways Rapharoh can fly no more. Thanks to ncsofts reckless GM's and customer relations people.

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  • skoupidiskoupidi Member UncommonPosts: 244

    Originally posted by sungodra

    ??? 

    If you think that rift's animations are good, then i guess your standards about animations are pretty damn low. I am pointing out some gamebreaking animations( gamebreaking for me), at the above post. Graphics dont impress me either.I played tera's kobt last week, after that rift's graphics felt terrible to me.

     Ok....   Wow's animations are garbage, sorry but they are.   Rifts are much better, perhaps you play the game on low settings but to us computer ppls that have the gear to put ours on ultra plus (custom max)  the animations are beautiful. The game is beautiful... Sorry you have an e-machine while I have a beast machine.

    My computer is fine.Though i couldn't run rift at max settings with more than 4 fps; although tera that felt 100000 times more beatyfull to me ran 100% smooth in maxed out settings.

    The only animations rift does well are the caster ones.Everything else feels outdated and crap to me.Sorry if you enjoy playing a game with crappy animations.I guess you enjoy weapons magically apearing from you back to your hands.Or jumping underwater,or the poor done melee/archer class animations.Or the "my character doesn't even move an inch when he dodges".Or the clouds in the sky that look like a kid drew them and put them there.Or or or.That is how a next generation 2011 AAA mmo should feel like i guess for people with low standards.

    Still even wow's animation feel superior to me.

    Fyi testing animations like movement and such doesn't require a supercomputer.

     

  • Rockgod99Rockgod99 Member Posts: 4,640
    Sorry but I disagree. I find the combat to be extremely exciting. From bullrushing and thunder kicking mobs off a cliff with my champion to outlasting an elite with my Justicar spec. I find the mel

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    Playing: Rift, LotRO
    Waiting on: GW2, BP

  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by skoupidi

    Originally posted by sungodra

    ??? 

    If you think that rift's animations are good, then i guess your standards about animations are pretty damn low. I am pointing out some gamebreaking animations( gamebreaking for me), at the above post. Graphics dont impress me either.I played tera's kobt last week, after that rift's graphics felt terrible to me.

     Ok....   Wow's animations are garbage, sorry but they are.   Rifts are much better, perhaps you play the game on low settings but to us computer ppls that have the gear to put ours on ultra plus (custom max)  the animations are beautiful. The game is beautiful... Sorry you have an e-machine while I have a beast machine.

    My computer is fine.Though i couldn't run rift at max settings with more than 4 fps; although tera that felt 100000 times more beatyfull to me ran 100% smooth in maxed out settings.

    The only animations rift does well are the caster ones.Everything else feels outdated and crap to me.Sorry if you enjoy playing a game with crappy animations.I guess you enjoy weapons magically apearing from you back to your hands.Or jumping underwater,or the poor done melee/archer class animations.Or the "my character doesn't even move an inch when he dodges".Or the clouds in the sky that look like a kid drew them and put them there.Or or or.That is how a next generation 2011 AAA mmo should feel like i guess for people with low standards.

    Still even wow's animation feel superior to me.

    Fyi testing animations like movement and such doesn't require a supercomputer.

     

     Well, that is the difference between you and me. While I pull in at least 25-35 fps on all maxed out settings , you pull in 4 fps so you don't get to enjoy the beauty of the game as I do. I have my particle effects set to 100 percent.  Maybe games like AION and AOC have better graphics, but wow graphics are a joke to say the least.

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  • Rockgod99Rockgod99 Member Posts: 4,640
    Yo what kind of crap are you trying to pull with that Aion/Rift video? Do yourself a favor and get a better PC because your obviously running rift on low setting and using low level characters in a beta compared to higher settings in Aion, with mid level characters with big armor and a two year old refined client... Please give us a break. If anyone watches that and thinks its a fair comparison their clueless.

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    Playing: Rift, LotRO
    Waiting on: GW2, BP

  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by Rockgod99

    Yo what kind of crap are you trying to pull with that Aion/Rift video? Do yourself a favor and get a better PC because your obviously running rift on low setting and using low level characters in a beta compared to higher settings in Aion, with mid level characters with big armor and a two year old refined client... Please give us a break. If anyone watches that and thinks its a fair comparison their clueless.

     dont worry, im about to make my own rift video using we-game and maxxed out graphics settings.

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  • QazzQazz Member Posts: 577

    Originally posted by Rockgod99

    Yo what kind of crap are you trying to pull with that Aion/Rift video? Do yourself a favor and get a better PC because your obviously running rift on low setting and using low level characters in a beta compared to higher settings in Aion, with mid level characters with big armor and a two year old refined client... Please give us a break. If anyone watches that and thinks its a fair comparison their clueless.

    What crap? I'm simply showing combat animations.  You don't need graphics on high settings to show those.  The level of the character doesnt' matter.

    I'm not saying, nor have I said that RIFT is a bad game.  Again, I have settings on both games lowered so I can run fraps.  I'm not the only one saying that I have issues with RIFT combat.  

    It's equally unfair to say that combat animations suddenly become more exciting and/or interesting when you run your settings on max.  The arm still swings the same way.  The posture still looks horrible.  The handle of the sword is where the weight of it hits the mob instead of the shaft.  There are countless issues with RIFT combat that higher graphics will not solve.

  • jaraynjarayn Member UncommonPosts: 19

    Originally posted by Rockgod99

    Sorry but I disagree. I find the combat to be extremely exciting. From bullrushing and thunder kicking mobs off a cliff with my champion to outlasting an elite with my Justicar spec. I find the melée combat fluid, te animations are perfect and the stylized look has grown on me to the point that every other fantasy mmo is ugly now. Rift is just an amazing experience overall.

     

    mmm, ok, while I am happy that you enjoy the gameplay I cannot understand for a second how you can say that the melee combat is fluid and the animations are perfect.

    While Rift combat isnt alot worse than most other mmos it certainly couldnt be described as fluid.  The animations are at best clunky and at worst laughable. The jumping and running are particularly hard to take.

    The character models and early armor and weapons are pretty poor as well. I imagine the later level gear may look better so that can slide , but the characters will always look the same.

    I am not a game designer so I dont have some revolutionary idea to change up mmo combat to make it more enjoyable but I think they have to at least make it as good as its predecesssors not worse.  DAoC has the best variant on the whole combat style imo and ten years later they release Rift and I shake my head in sadness.

     

    Im not sure what it is that people are loving about this game, I am like some of the other posters here, forcing myself to play because of all the positive comments, trying desperately to uncover what it is they see in it.

  • Rockgod99Rockgod99 Member Posts: 4,640
    Originally posted by Qazz


    Originally posted by Rockgod99

    Yo what kind of crap are you trying to pull with that Aion/Rift video? Do yourself a favor and get a better PC because your obviously running rift on low setting and using low level characters in a beta compared to higher settings in Aion, with mid level characters with big armor and a two year old refined client... Please give us a break. If anyone watches that and thinks its a fair comparison their clueless.

    What crap? I'm simply showing combat animations.  You don't need graphics on high settings to show those.  The level of the character doesnt' matter.

    I'm not saying, nor have I said that RIFT is a bad game.  Again, I have settings on both games lowered so I can run fraps.  I'm not the only one saying that I have issues with RIFT combat.  

     

    You do realize that animation frames are reduced as u lower the settings right? If you log into rift right now and put it on low my champions bullrushing ability looks like he's gumby sliding along the ground to a mob instead if leaping. Te melée swings are much more fluid in high and ultra settings. Also look at Aion, who the hell swings a weapon like that? Totally unrealistic, anime garbage.

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    Playing: Rift, LotRO
    Waiting on: GW2, BP

  • QazzQazz Member Posts: 577

    Originally posted by sungodra

    Originally posted by Rockgod99

    Yo what kind of crap are you trying to pull with that Aion/Rift video? Do yourself a favor and get a better PC because your obviously running rift on low setting and using low level characters in a beta compared to higher settings in Aion, with mid level characters with big armor and a two year old refined client... Please give us a break. If anyone watches that and thinks its a fair comparison their clueless.

     dont worry, im about to make my own rift video using we-game and maxxed out graphics settings.

    Can't wait to see it.  I would love to see some better RIFT combat than what I've experienced so far, up to level 20.

  • QazzQazz Member Posts: 577

    Originally posted by Rockgod99

    Originally posted by Qazz

    Originally posted by Rockgod99

    Yo what kind of crap are you trying to pull with that Aion/Rift video? Do yourself a favor and get a better PC because your obviously running rift on low setting and using low level characters in a beta compared to higher settings in Aion, with mid level characters with big armor and a two year old refined client... Please give us a break. If anyone watches that and thinks its a fair comparison their clueless.

    What crap? I'm simply showing combat animations.  You don't need graphics on high settings to show those.  The level of the character doesnt' matter.

    I'm not saying, nor have I said that RIFT is a bad game.  Again, I have settings on both games lowered so I can run fraps.  I'm not the only one saying that I have issues with RIFT combat.  

     

    You do realize that animation frames are reduced as u lower the settings right? If you log into rift right now and put it on low my champions bullrushing ability looks like he's gumby sliding along the ground to a mob instead if leaping. Te melée swings are much more fluid in high and ultra settings. Also look at Aion, who the hell swings a weapon like that? Totally unrealistic, anime garbage.

    I realize that it would look smoother but it would not change the motion.  I'm sure it doesn't look as good on your drummer's comp as it does on your normal rig.  I do run it on high settings, but fraps screws up my fps pretty bad for some reason.  My bro has a good gaming rig too and he's sold on the premise of RIFT...especially the vast possibilities for all of the souls/talents.  He said that the only thing he didn't like was....the combat.  I hadn't even told him my opinion yet.  It may be something I can get past, maybe not.  Time will tell.

  • Rockgod99Rockgod99 Member Posts: 4,640
    Originally posted by jarayn


    Originally posted by Rockgod99

    Sorry but I disagree. I find the combat to be extremely exciting. From bullrushing and thunder kicking mobs off a cliff with my champion to outlasting an elite with my Justicar spec. I find the mel

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    Playing: Rift, LotRO
    Waiting on: GW2, BP

  • MaitraderMaitrader Member UncommonPosts: 389

    Originally posted by skoupidi

    Originally posted by pierth


    Originally posted by skoupidi


    Originally posted by pierth


    Originally posted by skoupidi


    Originally posted by Swanea

    Yeah, too bad it's not an fps right? :P

    Yeah to bad people got allready bored of the 10 year old combat system.

     

    Really, because there's a game with almost the exact same type of combat that has 12 million (allegedly) who disagree.

    Just because people are playing wow doesnt mean they enjoy its combat.I am one of those.

    At least wow has better and more variation in animations than rift.

    That doesn't even make any sense- are you saying there are players in WoW that don't enjoy it's content but enjoy sitting back and watching the animations? Are they casting on themselves? Just standing in cities watching the night elf bounce or naked toons dancing on mailboxes?

     

    It seems to me that if people are playing a MMO that is entirely based around combat that they are probably okay with the combat. Ockham's Razor

    It makes sense.I don't know about you but in rift the jumping and movement of most races felt wrong to me. Also, rift has the worse holster/unholster weapon animation i have ever seen(check it out yourself, youre going to get disapointed). Not to mention the underwater jumping animation that rift(2011 AAA next generation mmo) has. I can just keep going on but i dont wont to trashtalk the game any further.It does most things well, but don't blame the people that are tired of the same things and want something new and more fun to play.

    Do you have like 100m laying around? if so, maybe you and others should stop being "disappointed" with how awesome Rift is, and make your on MMO... I am sure your MMO will definitely be the WoW killer ... lmao

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  • jaraynjarayn Member UncommonPosts: 19

    You do realize that animation frames are reduced as u lower the settings right? If you log into rift right now and put it on low my champions bullrushing ability looks like he's gumby sliding along the ground to a mob instead if leaping. Te melée swings are much more fluid in high and ultra settings. Also look at Aion, who the hell swings a weapon like that? Totally unrealistic, anime garbage.

    No.

    Total b.s. The anims look EXACTLY the same whether you are on ultra or min. I appreciate you are a fan but please try not to use lies to substantiate your position.

    On a positive note minimum setting actually looks ok so for the low end or laptop players you wont be too disappointed.

  • Rockgod99Rockgod99 Member Posts: 4,640
    Originally posted by jarayn


    You do realize that animation frames are reduced as u lower the settings right? If you log into rift right now and put it on low my champions bullrushing ability looks like he's gumby sliding along the ground to a mob instead if leaping. Te mel

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    Playing: Rift, LotRO
    Waiting on: GW2, BP

  • grimm6thgrimm6th Member Posts: 973

    combat in rift is nothing special so far...honestly though...the game gets a lot of things right but not a lot of it is really new (just the stuff that has been hyped).  I like rifts but its pretty obvious that they are boring kill waves of mobs, kill boss, wander away...

    honestly, though.  Combat in rift is essentially combat in other WoW like games (I am not implying I think this is a WoW clone).  I feel it's missing the special feeling that I got when playing a certain other game (GW2).

    I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.

  • skoupidiskoupidi Member UncommonPosts: 244

    Originally posted by sungodra

    Originally posted by skoupidi


    Originally posted by sungodra

    ??? 

    If you think that rift's animations are good, then i guess your standards about animations are pretty damn low. I am pointing out some gamebreaking animations( gamebreaking for me), at the above post. Graphics dont impress me either.I played tera's kobt last week, after that rift's graphics felt terrible to me.

     Ok....   Wow's animations are garbage, sorry but they are.   Rifts are much better, perhaps you play the game on low settings but to us computer ppls that have the gear to put ours on ultra plus (custom max)  the animations are beautiful. The game is beautiful... Sorry you have an e-machine while I have a beast machine.

    My computer is fine.Though i couldn't run rift at max settings with more than 4 fps; although tera that felt 100000 times more beatyfull to me ran 100% smooth in maxed out settings.

    The only animations rift does well are the caster ones.Everything else feels outdated and crap to me.Sorry if you enjoy playing a game with crappy animations.I guess you enjoy weapons magically apearing from you back to your hands.Or jumping underwater,or the poor done melee/archer class animations.Or the "my character doesn't even move an inch when he dodges".Or the clouds in the sky that look like a kid drew them and put them there.Or or or.That is how a next generation 2011 AAA mmo should feel like i guess for people with low standards.

    Still even wow's animation feel superior to me.

    Fyi testing animations like movement and such doesn't require a supercomputer.

     

     Well, that is the difference between you and me. While I pull in at least 25-35 fps on all maxed out settings , you pull in 4 fps so you don't get to enjoy the beauty of the game as I do. I have my particle effects set to 100 percent.  Maybe games like AION and AOC have better graphics, but wow graphics are a joke to say the least.

    I didnt say wow has better graphics than rift.Only the animations are better for me atleast. Animation is a completely different think in most cases. And btw 25-35 fps is shitty performance. 60 fps is fine, everything less than that and the game will be unplayable at crowded areas. Just dont reply again if you think that animations is the same thing as graphics please.

  • Rockgod99Rockgod99 Member Posts: 4,640
    Originally posted by grimm6th

    combat in rift is nothing special so far...honestly though...the game gets a lot of things right but not a lot of it is really new (just the stuff that has been hyped).  I like rifts but its pretty obvious that they are boring kill waves of mobs, kill boss, wander away...
    honestly, though.  Combat in rift is essentially combat in other WoW like games (I am not implying I think this is a WoW clone).  I feel it's missing the special feeling that I got when playing a certain other game (GW2).

     

    Have you tried any of the puzzle rifts? There are quite a few different types as you level up. I know most of the people I talk to have only messed with the basic Fire & Life rifts in the 10-20 area. Most of the posters that say rifts are just waves of mobs only experienced what the low level areas offered.

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    Waiting on: GW2, BP

  • grimm6thgrimm6th Member Posts: 973

    Originally posted by Rockgod99

    Originally posted by grimm6th

    combat in rift is nothing special so far...honestly though...the game gets a lot of things right but not a lot of it is really new (just the stuff that has been hyped).  I like rifts but its pretty obvious that they are boring kill waves of mobs, kill boss, wander away...

    honestly, though.  Combat in rift is essentially combat in other WoW like games (I am not implying I think this is a WoW clone).  I feel it's missing the special feeling that I got when playing a certain other game (GW2).

     

    Have you tried any of the puzzle rifts? There are quite a few different types as you level up. I know most of the people I talk to have only messed with the basic Fire & Life rifts in the 10-20 area. Most of the posters that say rifts are just waves of mobs only experienced what the low level areas offered.

    well, maybe somebody should tell Trion that they need to have puzzle rifts earlier.  Seriously.  but I think that maybe the combat will keep me from wanting to find one.

    I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.

  • Kaynos1972Kaynos1972 Member Posts: 2,316

    It's not just combat, it's the whole game.  What does this game has to afford that is different from all the other MMO's on the market ?  The answer is nothing.  I'M not gonna buy Warhammer 2 errrr Rift i mean.

  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by skoupidi

    Originally posted by sungodra

    Originally posted by skoupidi

    Originally posted by sungodra

    ??? 

    If you think that rift's animations are good, then i guess your standards about animations are pretty damn low. I am pointing out some gamebreaking animations( gamebreaking for me), at the above post. Graphics dont impress me either.I played tera's kobt last week, after that rift's graphics felt terrible to me.

     Ok....   Wow's animations are garbage, sorry but they are.   Rifts are much better, perhaps you play the game on low settings but to us computer ppls that have the gear to put ours on ultra plus (custom max)  the animations are beautiful. The game is beautiful... Sorry you have an e-machine while I have a beast machine.

    My computer is fine.Though i couldn't run rift at max settings with more than 4 fps; although tera that felt 100000 times more beatyfull to me ran 100% smooth in maxed out settings.

    The only animations rift does well are the caster ones.Everything else feels outdated and crap to me.Sorry if you enjoy playing a game with crappy animations.I guess you enjoy weapons magically apearing from you back to your hands.Or jumping underwater,or the poor done melee/archer class animations.Or the "my character doesn't even move an inch when he dodges".Or the clouds in the sky that look like a kid drew them and put them there.Or or or.That is how a next generation 2011 AAA mmo should feel like i guess for people with low standards.

    Still even wow's animation feel superior to me.

    Fyi testing animations like movement and such doesn't require a supercomputer.

     

     Well, that is the difference between you and me. While I pull in at least 25-35 fps on all maxed out settings , you pull in 4 fps so you don't get to enjoy the beauty of the game as I do. I have my particle effects set to 100 percent.  Maybe games like AION and AOC have better graphics, but wow graphics are a joke to say the least.

    I didnt say wow has better graphics than rift.Only the animations are better for me atleast. Animation is a completely different think in most cases. And btw 25-35 fps is shitty performance. 60 fps is fine, everything less than that and the game will be unplayable at crowded areas. Just dont reply again if you think that animations is the same thing as graphics please.

     I know what the difference is. The animations are fine in this game, the only problem right now IS the fps. Yea I realize that 25-35 fps is shitty, but it's alot better than your 4 fps.

     

    I have a 6850 and a 3.2 ghz quad core phenom 2 processor. SO if I get low fps in this game, it is because of the game, not my end.

     

    I think almost everyone is getting these crappy fps.

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  • SanHorSanHor Member UncommonPosts: 336

    I didn't play beta so I don't know how fun it is but from the videos I've seen Rift combat animations look outdated. 

  • lunatislunatis Member UncommonPosts: 261

    It truely isin't fun.

  • skoupidiskoupidi Member UncommonPosts: 244

    Originally posted by sungodra

    Originally posted by skoupidi


    Originally posted by sungodra


    Originally posted by skoupidi


    Originally posted by sungodra

    ??? 

    If you think that rift's animations are good, then i guess your standards about animations are pretty damn low. I am pointing out some gamebreaking animations( gamebreaking for me), at the above post. Graphics dont impress me either.I played tera's kobt last week, after that rift's graphics felt terrible to me.

     Ok....   Wow's animations are garbage, sorry but they are.   Rifts are much better, perhaps you play the game on low settings but to us computer ppls that have the gear to put ours on ultra plus (custom max)  the animations are beautiful. The game is beautiful... Sorry you have an e-machine while I have a beast machine.

    My computer is fine.Though i couldn't run rift at max settings with more than 4 fps; although tera that felt 100000 times more beatyfull to me ran 100% smooth in maxed out settings.

    The only animations rift does well are the caster ones.Everything else feels outdated and crap to me.Sorry if you enjoy playing a game with crappy animations.I guess you enjoy weapons magically apearing from you back to your hands.Or jumping underwater,or the poor done melee/archer class animations.Or the "my character doesn't even move an inch when he dodges".Or the clouds in the sky that look like a kid drew them and put them there.Or or or.That is how a next generation 2011 AAA mmo should feel like i guess for people with low standards.

    Still even wow's animation feel superior to me.

    Fyi testing animations like movement and such doesn't require a supercomputer.

     

     Well, that is the difference between you and me. While I pull in at least 25-35 fps on all maxed out settings , you pull in 4 fps so you don't get to enjoy the beauty of the game as I do. I have my particle effects set to 100 percent.  Maybe games like AION and AOC have better graphics, but wow graphics are a joke to say the least.

    I didnt say wow has better graphics than rift.Only the animations are better for me atleast. Animation is a completely different think in most cases. And btw 25-35 fps is shitty performance. 60 fps is fine, everything less than that and the game will be unplayable at crowded areas. Just dont reply again if you think that animations is the same thing as graphics please.

     I know what the difference is. The animations are fine in this game, the only problem right now IS the fps. Yea I realize that 25-35 fps is shitty, but it's alot better than your 4 fps.

     

    I have a 6850 and a 3.2 ghz quad core phenom 2 processor. SO if I get low fps in this game, it is because of the game, not my end.

     

    I think almost everyone is getting these crappy fps.

    I am playing games from an internet cafe cause i dont have a gaming computer yet. So i cant tell what the specs are because its locked for admins only.But i have played almost every top game that released the past years(mmos,single player etc.). I haven't had any performance issues(in max settings) so far except Rift and Metro2033. I hope they manage to optimize that crappy gamebrio engine, because not everyone can afford a top tier computer these days.

  • MothanosMothanos Member UncommonPosts: 1,910

    Ok here are my 2 cents of the recent mmo's.

    Aion Warhammer Rift and many many other mmo's just failed one after another.

    There is a huge market out there since wow became the grumpy old mmo king.

    I played many mmo's and iam in the bizz for many many years now and so many games just doesnt get it.

     

    MMO's need to be

     

    Pretty in graphics - Aion

    Aktion reaction animations - GW - Warcraft

    Smooth gameplay - GW - Warcraft

    Good pvp and pve - GW - Warcraft

     

    This is my personal top requirement of fun ingame.

    All other mmo's just where half of this and dint cut it let alone improved it.

     

    Rift is no exeption and therefore it will have a small playerbase, most of them are quickly satisfied, iam not one of them.

    Its the 10th in a dozen mmo that dint get it.

    Rift is Warhammer 1.5 and tbh i find warhammer more fun....

     

    Before WoW mmo's where small and had good communities, these days are over, if you want to have a good chunk of the mmo market you to stand out and do something amazing.

    Only Arenanet may have that potantial and what a suprise they are the founders and creators of Vanila wow.

     

    You may be succesfull if you have 500k subs or players, but you will be nothing special in mmo county.

    people happy with rift are easy to satisfied, specialy the pure fanboys outhere.

    Sorry, but i want something with the AWE factor and it seems from all the games comming out, perhaps and maybe only GW2 is listed with that.

    Dont get me wrong iam not here to bash people or mmo desingers, i am just tired of the copy paste gaming.

    Its time for WoW to get some serious competition, how long will it take for a studio to compete with the (current) king of mmo country ?

    So many have failed, some even before launch day, some 1 month after launch, Like Aion - Warhammer , they both had good marketing, but failed horribly to keep them subs in the pocket.

     

     

    Meh....I hate to say it and almost need to puke, but Blizzard kick buts and their game sucks since 2008...

    Its just sad tbh, realy hope Guildwars 2 iant flopping as i might give up on mmo's all together.

     

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