I honestly don't even know why people bother to try to say anything positive or to correct any inaccuracies. All we are ever met with is getting called fanbois, carebears, etc.
The reality is there is SO much misinformation being spewed about Rift its not even funny. Its really REALLY sad.
First and foremost, people, especially on this forum, have an utter inability to see the forest for the fucking trees. Trion has been doing this in beta events, basically 3-6 day long betas testing certain aspects of the game. The first beta was levels 1-20 on the defiants side. Second beta was 1-20 on Guardian, BETA 3 introduced some PVP and allowed both sides to play at the same time, etc.
The most recent beta event was called "Planar Invasion"...
Now, stop for about 3 seconds and actually let that sink in... could that mean that they might have upped the rate of invasions and rift events?!!!! *Gasp* NOOOO, madness! Could it be, could it possibly be, that this isnt the intended format for release of the game and that they're "gasp* TESTING how the game/playerbase responds to massive invasions? ZOMG NO!
So, all the people bitching that there are too many mobs and the events get boring and blah blah, can now shut the hell up.
Second, anybody who claims the games graphics arent heads and tails above anything else thats been released are smoking crack or have a piece of shit computer. Period. I ran this last beta on a 4 year old core 2 duo e6600 with a GTX 260 on ultra settings just fine. Yeah if i got 40 people on screen in a massive rift it would drop into the low 20's and occasionally teens. But im on a 4 yr old cpu with a 2 yr old video card. My roommate who has a more moden I7-860 with a GTX 460... guess what, its fucking flawless. never drops below 30 and is silky smooth.
Now, i say all this having played extensively just about every AAA (or borderline AAA) mmo thats released since EQ1. That includes WOW, AoC, EVE, EQ2, etc etc etc. The only game that comes close is Aion's character models, and AoC's overall world/graphics. Even then there are aspects of Rifts graphics that are literally stunning.
The reality is all that people on this forum have against Rift is the same STALE arguments that get thrown at every single game that comes out:
1. Its the same old stale theme park fantasy mmo (notice how people to this day still buy shitloads of fantasy novels, even though they're all the same variation on the same friggin theme, could it be because, omfg people like fantasy settings?!?!)
2. Its not NEW and INNOVATIVE enough. This one is my favorite. Everyone likes to play this card, but to this date i have not seen a single person who has come up with a viable idea for an MMO outside of their Anime/Fanfiction stroke a thon masturbatory ideas for what would be a "badass mmo"
3. It uses a class system, class systems are stupid, skill systems are so much better, even though they are really just class systems with an extra layer because invariably you get shoehorned into filling a particular role, be it tank, healer, dps.
Anybody who has actually tried to play this game past the initial 10 or so hours has realized this game actually is inspired and is very well done. The 2 starting dungeons in the game make most of WOW's best dungeons look like garbage.
The class system is one of the coolest and most innovative things that has been brought to the MMO table ever, and people are just discounting it because i honestly believe it is beyond their capability to understand, in terms of the intricacies of it all. They can't just make their cookie cutter build they looked up be super l33t, they actually have to l2p. Its amazing.
Anyways, im sure ill get flamed for this post, but frankly i dont care, i've said my piece.
That was good material....
"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes
You know I have heard this tune "its beta" so many times. I can only judge a game from what I see, not from what other players tell me *eventually* will be.
I say clear: I like Rift. But there are a few issues which just kill the game for me. One is, the uber fast respawn. And I am talking about the NORMAL mobs, not the Rift mobs. The normal mobs often INSTA respawn. Kill, 1-2-3... back. All too often the walking space of mobs is so, that you'll easily catch 1-2 additional mobs, which in most cases for most classes now means death. With the density of mobs, escape is almost impossible. So essentially you can plan as you want, you just can't avoid regular death. They also nerfed many souls now, so it takes even longer to take some enemies, and it all gets worse. Then, some mobs roam VERY wide ranges, adding even more mobs. All these things just kill the game for me, and I am not yet even talking about Rifts!
When the Rifts add to this, it all often gets insane! Yeah, when you only experience the level 1-18 area, you think Rifts are easy. There are plenty of new players all willing to form raids for a Rift. But once your Guardian enters the next zone, all too often I found myself alone with tons of Rift mobs roaming the streets. I stood in some spots and 5-6 or 7 GROUPS of heroic Rift mobs walked in a line, and maybe two or three players around = no chance in hell to defeat them. I experienced this regularly.
You can tell me a 1000 times it is for beta, but tbh, I dont believe that. Maybe so, maybe not. But after years of letdowns I am just DONE buying a game on the blind faith it will all be good by some miracle patch soon (tm). I really think Rift could be a good enough game, no uber game, but good. But the respawn and tons of mobs everywhere just make it for my preferrence - relaxed soloing - impossible. I just prefer a wee bit more laid back gaming that this uber hectic chaos going on all around. That so reminds me of the always ongoing hectic of Tabula Rasa or Warhammer. After a while it just tires me. And neither combat nor quests are THAT innovative or interesting to really compensate for that.
Dude do you ever read any of the patchnotes or dev chat in beta? Trion has clearly said step by step what they are doing everyday in beta, why they have increased respawn and bumped up the Invasions and Rifts. They have even said countless times to bare with them there just streesing out the servers...
Good luck to you and your future games but i have one suggestion for your next time you decide you want to beta test a game.
Be a part of the beta community and read the beta boards and dev chat it could increase your gaming experience...
"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes
You know I have heard this tune "its beta" so many times. I can only judge a game from what I see, not from what other players tell me *eventually* will be.
I say clear: I like Rift. But there are a few issues which just kill the game for me. One is, the uber fast respawn. And I am talking about the NORMAL mobs, not the Rift mobs. The normal mobs often INSTA respawn. Kill, 1-2-3... back. All too often the walking space of mobs is so, that you'll easily catch 1-2 additional mobs, which in most cases for most classes now means death. With the density of mobs, escape is almost impossible. So essentially you can plan as you want, you just can't avoid regular death. They also nerfed many souls now, so it takes even longer to take some enemies, and it all gets worse. Then, some mobs roam VERY wide ranges, adding even more mobs. All these things just kill the game for me, and I am not yet even talking about Rifts!
When the Rifts add to this, it all often gets insane! Yeah, when you only experience the level 1-18 area, you think Rifts are easy. There are plenty of new players all willing to form raids for a Rift. But once your Guardian enters the next zone, all too often I found myself alone with tons of Rift mobs roaming the streets. I stood in some spots and 5-6 or 7 GROUPS of heroic Rift mobs walked in a line, and maybe two or three players around = no chance in hell to defeat them. I experienced this regularly.
You can tell me a 1000 times it is for beta, but tbh, I dont believe that. Maybe so, maybe not. But after years of letdowns I am just DONE buying a game on the blind faith it will all be good by some miracle patch soon (tm). I really think Rift could be a good enough game, no uber game, but good. But the respawn and tons of mobs everywhere just make it for my preferrence - relaxed soloing - impossible. I just prefer a wee bit more laid back gaming that this uber hectic chaos going on all around. That so reminds me of the always ongoing hectic of Tabula Rasa or Warhammer. After a while it just tires me. And neither combat nor quests are THAT innovative or interesting to really compensate for that.
Dude, you're welcome to believe what you want. We're trying to reason with you but you seem hard set on being ignorant. In the end it will be you that misses out on good times, not us. So, try for a second to listen to what we're trying to tell you. And if you dont want to, than so be it.
This most recent beta was called Planar Invasion, the entire point of this beta was to stress test the rift/invasion system, which means they substantially upped the spawn rate of invasions and rifts. They even asked people on the forums to show up at a set time and place on saturday specifically to test how much the system could handle at once, they also gave out a bunch of prizes and stuff including a GTX 460 card.
I understand if you're reticent based off this last beta. Try the next event, see if its any better for you. If its not, then dont spend the money, or maybe try it later after you've read some full reviews or whatever.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
My overlcocked 460 is way way better than yours thats for sure.
Try put shadows off or put it on edge smoothing (remember its beta.. yes there's a bug with this setting atm)
I'm not trying to get into some kind of E-peen competition here. You do got a better set up than I do. I also plan to upgrade to a newer mother board, then I will get DDR3 ram, and newer cpu. With crossfire support on the board. Just havnt gotten around to it yet, because this system meets my needs... (bumbumbum) until..... Rift reared its ugly head.
Anyways, All i expect to get with my system is at least 30-40 stable FPS on ultra settings. Is that asking too much from my system?
I'd say.. yes.
Even I can't run perfectly on this system. It's a matter of tweak from their site, so wait and see. I heard ATI was badly supported, so might be why you get so poor performance.
Dude, you're welcome to believe what you want. We're trying to reason with you but you seem hard set on being ignorant. In the end it will be you that misses out on good times, not us. So, try for a second to listen to what we're trying to tell you. And if you dont want to, than so be it.
This most recent beta was called Planar Invasion, the entire point of this beta was to stress test the rift/invasion system, which means they substantially upped the spawn rate of invasions and rifts. They even asked people on the forums to show up at a set time and place on saturday specifically to test how much the system could handle at once, they also gave out a bunch of prizes and stuff including a GTX 460 card.
I understand if you're reticent based off this last beta. Try the next event, see if its any better for you. If its not, then dont spend the money, or maybe try it later after you've read some full reviews or whatever.
I just really don't see Rift being all that successful either. It does nothing particularly noteworthy (Rift grinding will get old), and it's going to be released way to close to three upcoming MMORPGs that will absolutely destroy it in terms of box sales and subscriber numbers.
Wish people like you would have been at E3 and had a chance to actually test some of these three upcoming mmo's like I did, then you might get off your soapbox and give RIFT a real chance.
A certain huge game everyone seems to be all excited about just does not work. I am in the friends and family for it and its broken, they can not get the game to play they way they want it to play within the confines of its engine, as a result to meet deadlines instead of fixing the problems they are ripping them out of the game. Granted it does have some coolness to it, but as it stands overall gameplay sucks atm.
And what game would this be?
I would like to know too along with the 3 games you tested at E3.
RIFT TERA and SWTOR.. in F&F testing under NDA so said all Im going to say atm but TERA NDA should drop soon and I can post some videos and information then
You know I have heard this tune "its beta" so many times. I can only judge a game from what I see, not from what other players tell me *eventually* will be.
Well, that is more or less true.
There are some stuff you have to count in a beta. There will be bugs, balance issues, Nerfing, bad FPS for some people, memory leaks, crashes and other broken content.
If you disregard those things you can judge if the game is for you or not. the problem is that a lot of people here whine on just those things and if you do you just shouldn't ever join a beta.
If you think the game is boring it isn't for you. If you think it is still buggy, that is just to be expected.
MMOs always change but playing a game for years because you think it might become good is a waste of time. But you also have to understand the differences between a beta and a full blown game, and it isn't just locked content, there is a reason that the game isn't out yet.
As long as you get that there isn't any problem, but not all people do.
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That was good material....
"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes
Dude do you ever read any of the patchnotes or dev chat in beta? Trion has clearly said step by step what they are doing everyday in beta, why they have increased respawn and bumped up the Invasions and Rifts. They have even said countless times to bare with them there just streesing out the servers...
Good luck to you and your future games but i have one suggestion for your next time you decide you want to beta test a game.
Be a part of the beta community and read the beta boards and dev chat it could increase your gaming experience...
"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes
Dude, you're welcome to believe what you want. We're trying to reason with you but you seem hard set on being ignorant. In the end it will be you that misses out on good times, not us. So, try for a second to listen to what we're trying to tell you. And if you dont want to, than so be it.
This most recent beta was called Planar Invasion, the entire point of this beta was to stress test the rift/invasion system, which means they substantially upped the spawn rate of invasions and rifts. They even asked people on the forums to show up at a set time and place on saturday specifically to test how much the system could handle at once, they also gave out a bunch of prizes and stuff including a GTX 460 card.
I understand if you're reticent based off this last beta. Try the next event, see if its any better for you. If its not, then dont spend the money, or maybe try it later after you've read some full reviews or whatever.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
I'd say.. yes.
Even I can't run perfectly on this system. It's a matter of tweak from their site, so wait and see. I heard ATI was badly supported, so might be why you get so poor performance.
Nicely stated.
RIFT TERA and SWTOR.. in F&F testing under NDA so said all Im going to say atm but TERA NDA should drop soon and I can post some videos and information then
Well, that is more or less true.
There are some stuff you have to count in a beta. There will be bugs, balance issues, Nerfing, bad FPS for some people, memory leaks, crashes and other broken content.
If you disregard those things you can judge if the game is for you or not. the problem is that a lot of people here whine on just those things and if you do you just shouldn't ever join a beta.
If you think the game is boring it isn't for you. If you think it is still buggy, that is just to be expected.
MMOs always change but playing a game for years because you think it might become good is a waste of time. But you also have to understand the differences between a beta and a full blown game, and it isn't just locked content, there is a reason that the game isn't out yet.
As long as you get that there isn't any problem, but not all people do.