WoW players leaving for Rift ?

Seffren

Originally posted by MadDemon64

I don't think I will ever leave WoW for Rift.  It is not because WoW is a better game (I'm not saying its worse either), but becauses of one main reason: the specs for Rift are too high.  I could never play it even if I wanted to on my computer.

Aaah yes, the X86 days of yonder.

Benthon

Originally posted by Seffren

Originally posted by MadDemon64

I don't think I will ever leave WoW for Rift.  It is not because WoW is a better game (I'm not saying its worse either), but becauses of one main reason: the specs for Rift are too high.  I could never play it even if I wanted to on my computer.

Aaah yes, the X86 days of yonder.

 How we won't miss them.

Robsolf

Since they were PUG, they didn't have any guild affiliation?

Folks are douchey enough online thanks to anonymity.  When they don't have so much as a guild to identify them, they let it ALL hang out.

As another poster stated, the minute they described themselves as pros, you could pretty much dismiss them as idiots.  It's the same nonsense as referring to tournament bowlers as "athletes".

Thandras

WOW has nothing to worry about from Rift. As far as I know Rift isn't being released in China/Asia and since the  majority of WOW's subscription base comes from that area WOW is gonna be safe for a long time. WOW also has that anime look to it and the grind that most asian gamers appear to enjoy. (Not racist, just observation from all the FTP titles and such produced from the East are grinders). To top it off you can play WOW on a toaster so it appeals to a bigger audience. Blizzard's marketing department did an excellent job of setting the game up for success, their target market research was spot on.

Z3R01

Originally posted by Acvivm


Originally posted by Z3R01

My brother in laws entire raid guild is going to Rift. About 70 active hardcore players and 30 or so semi-casuals all leaving for Rifts dungeon/raid content. These guys have played wow since before TBC released.

I've been playing WoW for about 4 years now and I'm on the fence about moving to Rift. Sure its new and looks ok enough to play but I think it just depends on what kind of endgame it has, are there raids? if there are...what kind of difficulty can we expect from them? I'd have to really know what kind of endgame Rift has before leaving a game I'm already established in and a guild that is about a week away from starting 25man heroics.

 

I talked to my brother in law the other day. He told me that Rift will have 10 hardmode dungeons with three difficulty tiers within them that offers different wing access and mob placement/ new quests. 10 man & 20 man rifts at level cap. Two complete raid tiers with two more in the works. Those guys take raiding very seriously. If what they've seen can pull them from wow the raid game must be good. As for me... No thanks.

josh81

However the thing Blizzard will have to start wondering is for actual new players to get into the game the upfront investment of the original game, TBC, WOTLK, and Cataclysm from a players standing that's just to much to invest into a game upfront. Yes I know you don't technically need TBC WOTLK CATA when you first start but with TBC you get Blood Elves and Drenai with Cata you get the Worgen and Goblins with WOTLK you get Death Knights (Is it still you have to have a 55 of another job to even make a DK?) so if you wanted one of the 4 races from the other expacs you'd have to get that, and the only price break they've really had on the previous expacs was around Christmas time. 

pragues

Why would I start over in a game that I already played the last 5 years?

I have more dungeons in WOW (and they changed them just 3 months ago), I have many more BG's, I have more races and classes, I have flying mounts and a 6 times bigger world, an underwater world and I still have only 6300 achievements points on my main with a few thousands more goals/titles for my alt.

WOW already changes its avatar trick and play every year (much to my dislike), so why would a grown up man change to play the exact same thing with 1/20 the options and smash 5 years of fun work down the drain ?

Please explain.

Yes I activated ST to play something besides the main thing. At least I now have a ship and something in space.

 

 

Shodanas

I presume there is a trade channel in Rift as well, yes? Then you're all set. 

pragues

Originally posted by josh81

However the thing Blizzard will have to start wondering is for actual new players to get into the game the upfront investment of the original game, TBC, WOTLK, and Cataclysm from a players standing that's just to much to invest into a game upfront. Yes I know you don't technically need TBC WOTLK CATA when you first start but with TBC you get Blood Elves and Drenai with Cata you get the Worgen and Goblins with WOTLK you get Death Knights (Is it still you have to have a 55 of another job to even make a DK?) so if you wanted one of the 4 races from the other expacs you'd have to get that, and the only price break they've really had on the previous expacs was around Christmas time. 

They'll repackage everything for $ 19.95 when SW:TOR comes along. Not for a game like Rift.

Problem solved. I even will give you the timing: 2 weeks before the SW launch and followed by a next expansion 3 months later.

 

Dragonantis

From the talk ive been hearing, doesnt look like many people are gonna leave for Rift permnantly, sure alot of people are gonna try it, but in the end will suffer the same fate as Aion.

Z3R01

Originally posted by pragues

Why would I start over in a game that I already played the last 5 years?
I have more dungeons in WOW (and they changed them just 3 months ago), I have many more BG's, I have more races and classes, I have flying mounts and a 6 times bigger world, an underwater world and I still have only 6300 achievements points on my main with a few thousands more goals/titles for my alt.
WOW already changes its avatar trick and play every year (much to my dislike), so why would a grown up man change to play the exact same thing with 1/20 the options and smash 5 years of fun work down the drain ?
Please explain.
Yes I activated ST to play something besides the main thing. At least I now have a ship and something in space.
 
 

 

Because Its a new experience? The dungeons are different, the races and classes are different, the world is different. The entire experience is new. Who cares if you have more dungeons in wow, rift offers 10 new hardmodes, two raid tiers and world dynamic content that you've never played before and new class combos to clear all of that with. Shouldn't that be enough? A new experince? If Ive been playing wow for 6 years, rift would appeal to me because it's more of what I enjoy.

hardicon

op join a good guild, dont do pugs or any random grouping and turn chat off except for guild, party, and raid.  bad community solved, why let a bunch of morons ruin your gameplay for a game you like.  if you dont have a guild or know a guild, and are looking for one pm me, ill put you in contact with mine and you wont have to deal with all this crap anymore.

Thane

thers is the WoW community, and the loud ones ^^

 

obviously the lound ones are hyping rift atm (still dont know why, but it'S a free world, mostly at least). i seriously doubt the 12 million WoW players are all transfering to rift now tho :>

 

gl in hitting 2-4 million i'd rather say

Z3R01

Originally posted by Thane

thers is the WoW community, and the loud ones ^^
 
obviously the lound ones are hyping rift atm (still dont know why, but it'S a free world, mostly at least). i seriously doubt the 12 million WoW players are all transfering to rift now tho :>
 
gl in hitting 2-4 million i'd rather say

 

Come back to my post around this time next year. After Rift, SWTOR & GW2 release, around this time wow will be forced to merge servers in both NA & Euro. These games will be too good and the people that aren't devoted to wow like it's a religion will leave. Just wait and see.

Thandras

Originally posted by Thane

thers is the WoW community, and the loud ones ^^

 

obviously the lound ones are hyping rift atm (still dont know why, but it'S a free world, mostly at least). i seriously doubt the 12 million WoW players are all transfering to rift now tho :>

 

gl in hitting 2-4 million i'd rather say

 If 2-4 million left wow to play Rift that would be the almost the entire Western audience  since  probably about 6 -8 million of that 12 million subs come from the east. But seriously, who  really cares. Play what you like. Why do people seem to feel the need to bash other games?

Sunioj

Oh sure there are always WoW players that buy a new MMO, play for up to 30-days and then often go right back to WoW.  It's hard to break grips on a game such a WoW for many players.  I myself have found my time away from WoW to be good.  The gear race and gear score requirements to get into good groups have put what I feel is a game ending death sentence to keep up with the Joneses.  It has taken alot of the fun out of the game.  I don't know if Rift is going to do anything great long run, but I am looking forward to getting into it and playing.

Jimmy562

Originally posted by Lobotomist

I noticed lot of talk of entire guilds leaving WoW for Rift ?

Now...i dont play WoW. I must admit one of big reasons is the community that clings to this game.

Actually I kind of secretly loved the WoW for the fact it was rotten community magnet.

Well apparently no more..

Now it seems this community is moving to Rift ...

 

Example from last round of beta. I joined PUG for a dungeon ( i know )

When we got wiped by dungeon boss. And I told them that it can not be done with current party. They called me a noob.

And that they going to show me how the pros do it. Ok.. I decided to stick with the show. To see how pros do it

Truth is that pros got wiped , and wiped and wiped. At least 6 times.

And than they simply quit group - no word.

When i asked them what happened? The one that graced me with the answer. Said : "You are gay homo."

And than he put me on ignore.

...

Now I never had such experience playing Vanguard, or LOTRO, or any other MMO except WoW.

 

I know this was exception. But I am afraid it can be the sign of the community that is transfering to Rift...

 

It happens. Its not just the WoW community that acts like this. Not everyone in RIFT is like this and I've had mostly good runs.

NeVeRLiFt

Let's not forget World of Darkness... this will also put a dent in WoW's player base.

http://massively.joystiq.com/category/world-of-darkness

Z3R01

Originally posted by NeVeRLiFt

Let's not forget World of Darkness... this will also put a dent in WoW's player base.
http://massively.joystiq.com/category/world-of-darkness

 

That's a sandbox game that will probably have FFA full loot pvp if CCP has it's way. Expect 100-300k subs and I doubt anyone playing wow will even know about the game at all. Look at Eve, in my opinion the greatest mmo ever created and it has around 350k subs and is virtually unknown by wow players. Games like Rift, GW2, SWTOR and maybe even WH40k will pull from wow but not a niche sandbox. Honestly? We like it that way.

Raikkonen

not everyone in rift is like that, you will get the ones that act like idiots every game has them, i just hope we don't have it as worse as WOW and i also hope we dont get there crappy addons also....

Sybnal

Originally posted by pragues

Why would I start over in a game that I already played the last 5 years?

I have more dungeons in WOW (and they changed them just 3 months ago), I have many more BG's, I have more races and classes, I have flying mounts and a 6 times bigger world, an underwater world and I still have only 6300 achievements points on my main with a few thousands more goals/titles for my alt.

WOW already changes its avatar trick and play every year (much to my dislike), so why would a grown up man change to play the exact same thing with 1/20 the options and smash 5 years of fun work down the drain ?

Please explain.

Yes I activated ST to play something besides the main thing. At least I now have a ship and something in space.

 

 

Not trying to knock your game choices or anything, play whatever turns your crank imo. However, there are alot of people out there who don't treat games like investments, they treat them like...well...games.

I personally can't stand the thought of looking at or playing WoW ever again. That sentiment only comes from sitting through hours of  looking at and playing WoW.

I always laugh at people who say things like, "I'm not playing Rift, I'm going to wait for GW2."  Like, if you play one you are banished from playing the other or something.

I'll play Rift. I'll also probably play GW2, I'll also probably play SWTOR.  There are a ton off good games out here, limiting yourself to just experiencing one of them sounds boring as shit to me.

New games are fun.

kitarad

Do you know why you will not find players like these in Vanguard for instance. The fact is players who still play a game like Vanguard are a totally different breed from what you find in the general MMORPG stratosphere. Let's face it we are living at the time that this genre has picked a whole host of players but not all of them behave very well that is the reality you have embrace because once a genre gets flooded with players you will naturally increase the number of rude and generally obnoxious behaviour it is the simply math.

 

You do not compare the general bahaviour of players to games where the population is in danger of extinction like Vanguard. Naturally the players in the games which are not popular are a classy lot. The other erroneous assumption is that WoW is responsible. No WoW merely open the flood gates to the sheer increase in the size of the gameplayer base. They are however not responsible for the general human behaviour. You have lax parenting to thank for that.

 

You have to be living under a rock to really think that all this is because of WoW. Just look around you even when you go to a restaurant how poorly people in general behave these days. Yes poor parenting is the root cause.

Zzad

Well i have played WoW for the past 4 years....

I calleced my account 7 months ago...long before Cataclysm came out...i got bored.

So Rift is not the reason i quited...but YES i will definetly be playing Rift.

I´ve been playing RIFT since Beta 5 and it has all the ingredients to keep me entretained untill Guild Wars 2 comes out.Then i´ll play both since GW2 is free to play.

So i´m moving to Telara!

and let me give you an advice... there is a lot of trolling going around latetly about Rift... some are scared?? may be.

Just check it for yourself and decide

last beta starts today Feb 15th at 10.00am PST or 18.00pm GTM and it´s open...

Just register at   www.riftgame.com   and decide yourself

Worth trying!

cya in game!

Volgore

With every new game getting released, it has always been the same with "my entire guild is leaving WoW for game XY!! and i know some more guilds planing to leave!".

Then 3 month after game XY got released, you'll see the postings like  "my entire guild will leave XY if this and that doesn't get fixed! and i know some more guilds thinking about going back to WoW!". Frustrated by this in WoW and that in their new game they always pull the "guild will leave"-card.

It's nothing but drama of nerds.

MMO.Maverick

Originally posted by pragues

Why would I start over in a game that I already played the last 5 years?

WOW already changes its avatar trick and play every year (much to my dislike), so why would a grown up man change to play the exact same thing with 1/20 the options and smash 5 years of fun work down the drain ?

Please explain.

Why would anyone play another shooter that has almost the exact same mechanics as the top shooter game?

Simple reason as why everyone plays another game that resembles a former game they played: fun.

 

The way you describe WoW is as if it's a marriage, where you 'invested' a few years of your life in. It is not, MMORPG's are games, you play them when you have fun in them, you stop playing them (well, most do) when you don't have fun in them anymore, it's really as simple as that.