After reading a lot of threads not only on this site, but many other sites, I've noticed a trend. A lot of people seem to be playing this game while waiting for another. So, I've decided to ask the majority here who are playing it, how many of you are playing RIFT, fairly enjoying it, but are actually waiting for a different MMO and will jump ship when it is released?
The following poll is for people who are currently playing Rift.
I wish you would put more options. Like "I don't know".
I'm not really all that jazzed about SWOR or GW2. There's nothing out right now that really gets me interested, although I do play STO heavily.
So who knows. At face value Rift seems ok at level 15. But what a lot of people are looking for is a game that they can really sink their teeth into. We haven't seen many of those. Make a list of games that you have played and sunk a few years into. Perhaps you can name three?
WoW and EVE are the only games I've played for *years*. So by comparison everything else is "filler".
Rift? Who knows.
Honestly - for me it's all going to depend on SWTOR. I'm a sci-fi fan above all else and if TOR is as good as it's hyped up to be I'll defintely switch from Rift when TOR is rerleased.
However - I could easily play Rift long term it's just that fantasy MMO's are not my preference. I'm a huge Star Wars fan (saw the original movie in the theaters like 25 times back in 1977) and also played SWG so I have high hopes for TOR - hope those hopes aren't crushed.
Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.
My plan since day one was to play Rift until SWTOR drops. I think many of us are "alt-aholics" and one very fair knock about Rift is that it's not an alt friendly game. I think that's why many people get bored after a short time. A quick fix to this problem is to hook up with a guild who has different events going throughout the week.
I signed up for a 6 month Rift sub. Honestly I've never thought about playing the game beyond that. I figured that's enough time until SWTOR drops. If SWTOR is live by that time yet then i'll sub for more time. I have quit Lotro so we'll see if I get any withdrawal effects.
After reading a lot of threads not only on this site, but many other sites, I've noticed a trend. A lot of people seem to be playing this game while waiting for another. So, I've decided to ask the majority here who are playing it, how many of you are playing RIFT, fairly enjoying it, but are actually waiting for a different MMO and will jump ship when it is released?
The following poll is for people who are currently playing Rift.
People treat MMOs like a single player game now.
They play and when they feel they consumed enough content, they unsub.
Even the sub-number king WoW only retains 30% of players. (only 30% gets above level 10 - Blizz CEO)
Is it right or wrong? Doesn't matter, that's market reality.
What a wildly bizarre interpretation of churn.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
I've already cancelled from boredom (lvl 48 don't want to press on)
I signed up for the 6 months thing, thank goodness I still have 20 days left so I could cancel without a charge.
Well, not gonna say I didnt warn you 6 months guys lol
I have no idea why anyone tried this game in 2+ betas and thought there would be be 6 months play in it... It was obvious from it's blatantly limited content (which is the curse of the modern 100% themepark game at launch) that it would be done in 4-6 weeks for all but the most casual or those that have the stomach to run through it again on an alt (the alt guys would probably be looking at about, what, 8 weeks?).
A lot of the more rabid defenders of this game on this board were vets of 1 or maybe 2 betas, and at that point it still seemed fun. I predicted back then though that once the sheen started to wear off we would see a ton of 'bored now' posts.
After teh Warhammer fail I knew that every other game would just be filler until SW:ToR. The sad thing is that Aion, Rift, WoW & DCUO couldn't even give me a year of good gameplay to fill the time. I hope 2011 is a much better year for mmo's...
I dont know if i can call it my filler game or not, its my casual game. my primary when its running is xsyon, i play rift when im not playing xsyon. SW:TOR would have been a filler game for me if it came out and Rift didnt. The more i'm learing about GW2 the more i'm liking what i hear. thankfully the devs for that game understand that it might be someones casual game and prepared game play for it.
For so many bad years of crappy MMO releases, there are to many new ones that are interesting and demand to much time i just dont have anymore. WTB more play time!!
Pretty much every MMO for me is a temporary game. I do not plan on playing any particular game "forever". Unless of course I actually wrote a game, but even then I wouldn't necessarily play it forever. I just enjoy seeing and playing new games.
Rift is the first one in awhile and the first MMORPG in a very long while that I plan on playing longer than the initial one week "trial" period I usually give games. So for me, it doesn't really matter how long I play...it's fun and it has done its job.
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IMO Any WoW-clone mmorpg is just a filler till better games come along. the Wow gameplay formula has been done to death and the mmorpg devs need to move on and away from it. I am also sick of all the damn fantasy mmorpgs, those have been done to death too. Needs more Sci-fi or Steampunk or well ANYTHING other than generic fantasy. Rift hasn't been around a month yet, people still on the free time. we'll see how many people actually stay when it comes time to pay up, I have no doubts though it'll have profitable numbers, a mmorpg doesn't need millions of subs to be successful, long as there is enough subs to make it profitable and enough funds for new content to be made its a success in my eyes. City of Heroes is a prime example, the game is pretty much just a grind fest, but to this day it still has a healthy amount of players. Probally due to all the diffrent builds you can do, I honestly been thinking of getting the going rogue expansion and resubbing myself.
Bleh this ended up turning into a rant sorry. Just so.. angry at what WoW has done to the mmorpg market. Its a case of monkey see monkey do I think.
i think a p2p Horror genre mmo would be coll kinda like requiem except better pc preformance, and such, even with a decents computer it always sempt really choppy.
It's a filler for now for me BUT that doesn't mean I won't come back to it in the future. I really want to see how Rift grows as I do find it fun, just a tad TOO much like WoW in that endgame is the same basically. A token/rep grind to see content that as much as I want to, I'll never really see because I prefer to party in smaller raids then large ones. 10 man is my favorite but even that can be done wrong. Last great 10 man I went on was Karazhan runs in WoW. Nothing has topped that since. Probably because I was a mage and I actually was able to use polymorph on some fights, shocker I know.
Rift is fun, but limited world size and limited alt play kills an MMO for me. I gotta have TONS of options to stay long term. Maybe they will impliment them, who knows. For now its a fun game to help pass the time to SWTOR, GW2 and Archeage.
I started to play Rift as filler till gw2 and even though i like rift it's still filler. Depending on job Trion will do with its game i might keep my subscription even though i will mainly play gw2 in future (if it turns out as good as it is looking so far).
Rift is no less complete or less of a game than WOW, D&D, LoTRs, Conan, WAR , COH and a dozen more at release. I find it to be more complete than many? As another poster mentioned people burn thru these like a single player game now a days and then quit. How many played to 40 on both sides in Beta? No wonder many burn out and are disappointed when a game doesn't give you 12 hours a day content for three years or more.
I guarantee GW2 and TOR will suffer the same fate. People will burn thru the stories and max a character out in a week and then cry that the game isn't a full game or it's just a filler game till Copernicus or ArcheAge or whatever the next flavor of the week is.
I started to play Rift as filler till gw2 and even though i like rift it's still filler. Depending on job Trion will do with its game i might keep my subscription even though i will mainly play gw2 in future (if it turns out as good as it is looking so far).
That is one thing I notice too. People tend to forget GW2 is B2P, so a lot of people will actually keep two MMO's up. GW2 probably will not kill anything for the simple reason it is B2P.
Unless it just turns into one of those incredible "new content expansions" every month kind of mmo's then other games will have a problem. I seriously doubt that will happen, so it will played a long side other games which is cool.
I don't think rift is a filler. Like the previous poster who said it was a complete game, it really is. I am playing it like one. Take your time and no burnout occurs. I'm only level 31 since release, and I'm still logging in and having tons of fun every time.
I found the leveling quest/instance grind motonous and boring. Nothing changed. They might as well have made every mob of the same skin, as the difficulty isn't there and you are bombarded by the same few setups. The dungeons are too easy, minus the expert dungeons which are just an addition of mobs on the same dungeons. I went to 50 hoping the game would open up a bit with a plethora of options like in many games. It doesn't. It is the same grind as the journey to 50. Achievements are mostly uninteresting and pointless. Collections: even worse. The dungeons felt like they were designed in maybe 30 minutes; very lackluster and plain - heck, you can't call most of them 'dungeons' as they are just a big room where you eliminate mobs in each corner. There are 4 warfronts, 3 of which are very stale by the time you hit 50. World pvp can be fun but its unfortunate there is absolutely no point other than to harass people. If PvP had more options and dungeons were more interesting, I'd probably stick with it for the hope it'd get better. As of now I wouldnt sub past the free month.
Rift is no less complete or less of a game than WOW, D&D, LoTRs, Conan, WAR , COH and a dozen more at release. I find it to be more complete than many? As another poster mentioned people burn thru these like a single player game now a days and then quit. How many played to 40 on both sides in Beta? No wonder many burn out and are disappointed when a game doesn't give you 12 hours a day content for three years or more.
I guarantee GW2 and TOR will suffer the same fate. People will burn thru the stories and max a character out in a week and then cry that the game isn't a full game or it's just a filler game till Copernicus or ArcheAge or whatever the next flavor of the week is.
Yeah, there will always be speed levelers that misses most of the content and even more of the fun.
If think they will be a lot more upset with TOR than Rift actually, since Bioware said they put most work on the journey, not the goal.
GW2 is kinda different aqnd a lot more focus on different kinds of PvP than TOR and Rift so I am guessing it will fare a little better. What people will whine on is that you can't get over powered raid gear like in other games instead.
Rift is a complete game. The problem is just that if you are totally burnt out on Wow, EQ2 and LOTRO this game is too similar to keep you occupied for long. Take a break from the genre or play Eve or something for a few months instead.
Rift can't both cateer to people who want a Wow but with prettier graphics and better character customization and at the same time make people who are incredible tired of that concept happy.
You just can't please everyone. Rift do what it does rather well. Only bad thing really is that they call themselves "next gen", it isn't really true and it makes some people expect something completely different.
I found the leveling quest/instance grind motonous and boring. Nothing changed. They might as well have made every mob of the same skin, as the difficulty isn't there and you are bombarded by the same few setups. The dungeons are too easy, minus the expert dungeons which are just an addition of mobs on the same dungeons. I went to 50 hoping the game would open up a bit with a plethora of options like in many games. It doesn't. It is the same grind as the journey to 50. Achievements are mostly uninteresting and pointless. Collections: even worse. The dungeons felt like they were designed in maybe 30 minutes; very lackluster and plain - heck, you can't call most of them 'dungeons' as they are just a big room where you eliminate mobs in each corner. There are 4 warfronts, 3 of which are very stale by the time you hit 50. World pvp can be fun but its unfortunate there is absolutely no point other than to harass people. If PvP had more options and dungeons were more interesting, I'd probably stick with it for the hope it'd get better. As of now I wouldnt sub past the free month.
The game have just released. No single MMO I played have ever had any good and hard endgame dungeons at launch. Most of them had little or no endgame at all.
Getting fast to endgame in a newly released game is just like beating your head into a brick wall, frustrating and painful.
Either you level really slowly while doing stuff like crafting and PvP or you wait 3 months after launch. This BTW goes for all MMOs. So either take your time or just play something else for a few months.
Yes MMOs should release complete with full endgame but they never do. Even Wow with all it's years in development and huge budget had close to no endgame at launch.
I've already cancelled from boredom (lvl 48 don't want to press on)
I signed up for the 6 months thing, thank goodness I still have 20 days left so I could cancel without a charge.
Well, not gonna say I didnt warn you 6 months guys lol
I have no idea why anyone tried this game in 2+ betas and thought there would be be 6 months play in it... It was obvious from it's blatantly limited content (which is the curse of the modern 100% themepark game at launch) that it would be done in 4-6 weeks for all but the most casual or those that have the stomach to run through it again on an alt (the alt guys would probably be looking at about, what, 8 weeks?).
A lot of the more rabid defenders of this game on this board were vets of 1 or maybe 2 betas, and at that point it still seemed fun. I predicted back then though that once the sheen started to wear off we would see a ton of 'bored now' posts.
so, what are some good lotto numbers for next week? because you can obviously read the future.
it amazes me how convinced people are by this website. i have never seen a new game come out (even non-mmos), that did not get ripped to shreds by the rabid hounds that roam these boards, angry because other people enjoy things that they personlly do not like.
i predict that EVERY game that will ever be spoken of (in mass) on this site, will be hated by someone, trolled to death, the subject of many flames wars, with ridicule towards those that feel differently. and i will never act like such a child, that i feel the need to come back just to say 'i told you so'.
some of the only rational posts i have seen on this thread realize that all video games are just 'fillers' until something else comes along, be it another game, a different hobby, or just random life occurences.
personally, i just hope i stay interested in RIFT until 11-11-11, because i long to play TES5, because even after i tire of Skyrim's base game, there are all the player made mods (of the future) that i'm sure will keep me playing for longer than any mmo has kept me the past few years.
Been playing Rift since Beta 3. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me like a tumor. I really enjoy the game and will be playing for quite a while I imagine. I haven't had this much fun in an MMO in years. Such a solid new game with plenty of room to grow.
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You left out from the poll the option of saying "I'm sticking with Rift until something better comes around". These "other" games that people are waiting for have yet to be released and actually tried.
I personally am enjoying Rift enough to really not bother with any other games, It really wouldn't bother me if some of these next games fail. But I'm always willing, like I'm sure people people are, to switch games IF the game is better.
For anyone who think games CAN'T be fillers... I think it's more mentality then actuality.
Anyone who plays Rift because they enjoy it and currently don't see an end are playing it as a non-filler. Anyone who plays Rift to pass time for an upcoming game is playing it as a filler.
So technically, all games are filler... but ideally, some games are not filler.
I went into Rift expecting to quit upon GW2's arrival, and so... it was a filler for me. (Sadly, I quit Rift already...)
I've played many games out of choice, and so, those were not fillers. While Rift isn't forced on me, I have little options other than to play it at the moment... and so, Rift was a filler for me.
As someone who plays almost every new MMO after playing the beta I saw no reason to bother with Rift, it is the definition of filler MMO, it brings almost nothing new to the genre and is such a heavy handed ripoff of WoW that I had no interest.
/Sigh how many times? The never said it would be new, just that it would be fun.
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Honestly - for me it's all going to depend on SWTOR. I'm a sci-fi fan above all else and if TOR is as good as it's hyped up to be I'll defintely switch from Rift when TOR is rerleased.
However - I could easily play Rift long term it's just that fantasy MMO's are not my preference. I'm a huge Star Wars fan (saw the original movie in the theaters like 25 times back in 1977) and also played SWG so I have high hopes for TOR - hope those hopes aren't crushed.
Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.
My plan since day one was to play Rift until SWTOR drops. I think many of us are "alt-aholics" and one very fair knock about Rift is that it's not an alt friendly game. I think that's why many people get bored after a short time. A quick fix to this problem is to hook up with a guild who has different events going throughout the week.
I signed up for a 6 month Rift sub. Honestly I've never thought about playing the game beyond that. I figured that's enough time until SWTOR drops. If SWTOR is live by that time yet then i'll sub for more time. I have quit Lotro so we'll see if I get any withdrawal effects.
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Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.
What a wildly bizarre interpretation of churn.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
I've already cancelled from boredom (lvl 48 don't want to press on)
I signed up for the 6 months thing, thank goodness I still have 20 days left so I could cancel without a charge.
It is a good mmo to play until The Old Republic and Guild Wars 2 get here.
Well, not gonna say I didnt warn you 6 months guys lol
I have no idea why anyone tried this game in 2+ betas and thought there would be be 6 months play in it... It was obvious from it's blatantly limited content (which is the curse of the modern 100% themepark game at launch) that it would be done in 4-6 weeks for all but the most casual or those that have the stomach to run through it again on an alt (the alt guys would probably be looking at about, what, 8 weeks?).
A lot of the more rabid defenders of this game on this board were vets of 1 or maybe 2 betas, and at that point it still seemed fun. I predicted back then though that once the sheen started to wear off we would see a ton of 'bored now' posts.
After teh Warhammer fail I knew that every other game would just be filler until SW:ToR. The sad thing is that Aion, Rift, WoW & DCUO couldn't even give me a year of good gameplay to fill the time. I hope 2011 is a much better year for mmo's...
I dont know if i can call it my filler game or not, its my casual game. my primary when its running is xsyon, i play rift when im not playing xsyon. SW:TOR would have been a filler game for me if it came out and Rift didnt. The more i'm learing about GW2 the more i'm liking what i hear. thankfully the devs for that game understand that it might be someones casual game and prepared game play for it.
For so many bad years of crappy MMO releases, there are to many new ones that are interesting and demand to much time i just dont have anymore. WTB more play time!!
Pretty much every MMO for me is a temporary game. I do not plan on playing any particular game "forever". Unless of course I actually wrote a game, but even then I wouldn't necessarily play it forever. I just enjoy seeing and playing new games.
Rift is the first one in awhile and the first MMORPG in a very long while that I plan on playing longer than the initial one week "trial" period I usually give games. So for me, it doesn't really matter how long I play...it's fun and it has done its job.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
i think a p2p Horror genre mmo would be coll kinda like requiem except better pc preformance, and such, even with a decents computer it always sempt really choppy.
It's a filler for now for me BUT that doesn't mean I won't come back to it in the future. I really want to see how Rift grows as I do find it fun, just a tad TOO much like WoW in that endgame is the same basically. A token/rep grind to see content that as much as I want to, I'll never really see because I prefer to party in smaller raids then large ones. 10 man is my favorite but even that can be done wrong. Last great 10 man I went on was Karazhan runs in WoW. Nothing has topped that since. Probably because I was a mage and I actually was able to use polymorph on some fights, shocker I know.
Rift is fun, but limited world size and limited alt play kills an MMO for me. I gotta have TONS of options to stay long term. Maybe they will impliment them, who knows. For now its a fun game to help pass the time to SWTOR, GW2 and Archeage.
I started to play Rift as filler till gw2 and even though i like rift it's still filler. Depending on job Trion will do with its game i might keep my subscription even though i will mainly play gw2 in future (if it turns out as good as it is looking so far).
Rift is no less complete or less of a game than WOW, D&D, LoTRs, Conan, WAR , COH and a dozen more at release. I find it to be more complete than many? As another poster mentioned people burn thru these like a single player game now a days and then quit. How many played to 40 on both sides in Beta? No wonder many burn out and are disappointed when a game doesn't give you 12 hours a day content for three years or more.
I guarantee GW2 and TOR will suffer the same fate. People will burn thru the stories and max a character out in a week and then cry that the game isn't a full game or it's just a filler game till Copernicus or ArcheAge or whatever the next flavor of the week is.
That is one thing I notice too. People tend to forget GW2 is B2P, so a lot of people will actually keep two MMO's up. GW2 probably will not kill anything for the simple reason it is B2P.
Unless it just turns into one of those incredible "new content expansions" every month kind of mmo's then other games will have a problem. I seriously doubt that will happen, so it will played a long side other games which is cool.
I don't think rift is a filler. Like the previous poster who said it was a complete game, it really is. I am playing it like one. Take your time and no burnout occurs. I'm only level 31 since release, and I'm still logging in and having tons of fun every time.
Per my opinion, short answer yes.
I found the leveling quest/instance grind motonous and boring. Nothing changed. They might as well have made every mob of the same skin, as the difficulty isn't there and you are bombarded by the same few setups. The dungeons are too easy, minus the expert dungeons which are just an addition of mobs on the same dungeons. I went to 50 hoping the game would open up a bit with a plethora of options like in many games. It doesn't. It is the same grind as the journey to 50. Achievements are mostly uninteresting and pointless. Collections: even worse. The dungeons felt like they were designed in maybe 30 minutes; very lackluster and plain - heck, you can't call most of them 'dungeons' as they are just a big room where you eliminate mobs in each corner. There are 4 warfronts, 3 of which are very stale by the time you hit 50. World pvp can be fun but its unfortunate there is absolutely no point other than to harass people. If PvP had more options and dungeons were more interesting, I'd probably stick with it for the hope it'd get better. As of now I wouldnt sub past the free month.
Yeah, there will always be speed levelers that misses most of the content and even more of the fun.
If think they will be a lot more upset with TOR than Rift actually, since Bioware said they put most work on the journey, not the goal.
GW2 is kinda different aqnd a lot more focus on different kinds of PvP than TOR and Rift so I am guessing it will fare a little better. What people will whine on is that you can't get over powered raid gear like in other games instead.
Rift is a complete game. The problem is just that if you are totally burnt out on Wow, EQ2 and LOTRO this game is too similar to keep you occupied for long. Take a break from the genre or play Eve or something for a few months instead.
Rift can't both cateer to people who want a Wow but with prettier graphics and better character customization and at the same time make people who are incredible tired of that concept happy.
You just can't please everyone. Rift do what it does rather well. Only bad thing really is that they call themselves "next gen", it isn't really true and it makes some people expect something completely different.
The game have just released. No single MMO I played have ever had any good and hard endgame dungeons at launch. Most of them had little or no endgame at all.
Getting fast to endgame in a newly released game is just like beating your head into a brick wall, frustrating and painful.
Either you level really slowly while doing stuff like crafting and PvP or you wait 3 months after launch. This BTW goes for all MMOs. So either take your time or just play something else for a few months.
Yes MMOs should release complete with full endgame but they never do. Even Wow with all it's years in development and huge budget had close to no endgame at launch.
so, what are some good lotto numbers for next week? because you can obviously read the future.
it amazes me how convinced people are by this website. i have never seen a new game come out (even non-mmos), that did not get ripped to shreds by the rabid hounds that roam these boards, angry because other people enjoy things that they personlly do not like.
i predict that EVERY game that will ever be spoken of (in mass) on this site, will be hated by someone, trolled to death, the subject of many flames wars, with ridicule towards those that feel differently. and i will never act like such a child, that i feel the need to come back just to say 'i told you so'.
some of the only rational posts i have seen on this thread realize that all video games are just 'fillers' until something else comes along, be it another game, a different hobby, or just random life occurences.
personally, i just hope i stay interested in RIFT until 11-11-11, because i long to play TES5, because even after i tire of Skyrim's base game, there are all the player made mods (of the future) that i'm sure will keep me playing for longer than any mmo has kept me the past few years.
Been playing Rift since Beta 3. I didn't like it at first but it grew on me like a tumor. I really enjoy the game and will be playing for quite a while I imagine. I haven't had this much fun in an MMO in years. Such a solid new game with plenty of room to grow.
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You left out from the poll the option of saying "I'm sticking with Rift until something better comes around". These "other" games that people are waiting for have yet to be released and actually tried.
I personally am enjoying Rift enough to really not bother with any other games, It really wouldn't bother me if some of these next games fail. But I'm always willing, like I'm sure people people are, to switch games IF the game is better.
For anyone who think games CAN'T be fillers... I think it's more mentality then actuality.
Anyone who plays Rift because they enjoy it and currently don't see an end are playing it as a non-filler. Anyone who plays Rift to pass time for an upcoming game is playing it as a filler.
So technically, all games are filler... but ideally, some games are not filler.
I went into Rift expecting to quit upon GW2's arrival, and so... it was a filler for me. (Sadly, I quit Rift already...)
I've played many games out of choice, and so, those were not fillers. While Rift isn't forced on me, I have little options other than to play it at the moment... and so, Rift was a filler for me.
/Sigh how many times? The never said it would be new, just that it would be fun.