I dunno... seems some of the responses are far more over-the-top than they make the OP's post out to be.
The OP was simply venting about the frequency of wanting to log into the game and seeing it either requires a patch, or logging in to find there's going to be down-time for a patch soon. He wasn't complaining that they're patching the game, he's griping about how often they're patching the game.
When you only have a certain amount of time, and just want to log in and play, it can become annoying after a while. I know exactly what they're talking about, and I'm sure every single person responding to the OP has felt annoyed at it as well at some point. The difference is the OP decided to post and vent about it... others haven't.
That said, as to the frequency of patches, if they're doing it every day... or, moreso, multiple times every day... that is a bit overboard. There's a reason why developers typically have scheduled patches. Unless the patches are emergency ones to fix something game breaking, even if they did it twice a week, it would be perfectly fine. This way they get a bunch of fixes in at one time, and the players know when to expect them so they can plan accordingly.
If you know the game patches every Monday at 7AM EST, and usually lasts an hour... then you know not to expect to be playing at that time for ~ 1 hour. Nothing wrong with that.
Like I said, some people in this thread are making a bigger deal about the OP's post than the OP was about the patching.
I hope they keep up the frequency of patching RIFT. Been a long time since a company has been this dedicated and serious about their product. And i don't want the quality and stability to go down.
How are they any less serious about patching their product if they take small patches they bring the server down to do every day and condense them into a weekly patch that happens at the same time, on the same day each week? We're not talking "once every two months" here.
If it's an emergency patch that they need to do "now", and they wait 'til the weekly patch, that's one thing. But considering it's been noted that the patches they're doing typically aren't fixing any major issues, etc... I don't see how that would be them "taking it less seriously". Many MMOs I've played from AAA companies follow a set schedule of weekly patches, with the occasional "emergency maintenance" thrown in as necessary. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
They're reducing overall down-time that way as well. Instead of taking it down almost daily for 20-30 minutes at a shot, they take it down once a week for maybe an hour and get it all done at once.
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wth is wrong with u, op? i would much rather have a daily update that takes less than 3 min to update than 1 day a week where the game is down 8+ hours every week. and if u dont think that is the majority opinion ask the 12 million subs to that game and im sure they can agree. by the time u go take a crap, make a pot of coffee or heaven forbid kiss ur "woman", the game is back and ur ready to go. hell, im assuming the game was down for u went u went to log on hense the ranting post. by the time u finished typing ur post, im sure the game was already patched and u were actually cutting into ur own playing time. stop whining and start playin.
Originally posted by grapevine I can't believe how selfish some people are being. Patching to often means they are preventing some people from playing during the times they can. Just like any other "professionally" ran service, patches need to be scheduled unless there's an emergency reason.
People live in different timezones, work different patterns, etc.
wth is wrong with u, op? i would much rather have a daily update that takes less than 3 min to update than 1 day a week where the game is down 8+ hours every week. and if u dont think that is the majority opinion ask the 12 million subs to that game and im sure they can agree. by the time u go take a crap, make a pot of coffee or heaven forbid kiss ur "woman", the game is back and ur ready to go. hell, im assuming the game was down for u went u went to log on hense the ranting post. by the time u finished typing ur post, im sure the game was already patched and u were actually cutting into ur own playing time. stop whining and start playin.
You are confusing and compairing content patching, to (over exaggerate) brining down servers daily for 30 - 60 mins, because something was the wrong colour.
I can't believe how selfish some people are being. Patching to often means they are preventing some people from playing during the times they can. Just like any other "professionally" ran service, patches need to be scheduled unless there's an emergency reason.
People live in different timezones, work different patterns, etc.
its never more than 30 damn minutes!!
Not true they often take up to an hour, and often more than once per day.
Originally posted by WSIMike Originally posted by Shastra
Originally posted by WSIMike
I dunno... seems some of the responses are far more over-the-top than they make the OP's post out to be. The OP was simply venting about the frequency of wanting to log into the game and seeing it either requires a patch, or logging in to find there's going to be down-time for a patch soon. He wasn't complaining that they're patching the game, he's griping about how often they're patching the game. When you only have a certain amount of time, and just want to log in and play, it can become annoying after a while. I know exactly what they're talking about, and I'm sure every single person responding to the OP has felt annoyed at it as well at some point. The difference is the OP decided to post and vent about it... others haven't. That said, as to the frequency of patches, if they're doing it every day... or, moreso, multiple times every day... that is a bit overboard. There's a reason why developers typically have scheduled patches. Unless the patches are emergency ones to fix something game breaking, even if they did it twice a week, it would be perfectly fine. This way they get a bunch of fixes in at one time, and the players know when to expect them so they can plan accordingly. If you know the game patches every Monday at 7AM EST, and usually lasts an hour... then you know not to expect to be playing at that time for ~ 1 hour. Nothing wrong with that. Like I said, some people in this thread are making a bigger deal about the OP's post than the OP was about the patching.
I hope they keep up the frequency of patching RIFT. Been a long time since a company has been this dedicated and serious about their product. And i don't want the quality and stability to go down. How are they any less serious about patching their product if they take small patches they bring the server down to do every day and condense them into a weekly patch that happens at the same time, on the same day each week? We're not talking "once every two months" here. If it's an emergency patch that they need to do "now", and they wait 'til the weekly patch, that's one thing. But considering it's been noted that the patches they're doing typically aren't fixing any major issues, etc... I don't see how that would be them "taking it less seriously". Many MMOs I've played from AAA companies follow a set schedule of weekly patches, with the occasional "emergency maintenance" thrown in as necessary. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. They're reducing overall down-time that way as well. Instead of taking it down almost daily for 20-30 minutes at a shot, they take it down once a week for maybe an hour and get it all done at once. so u want them to bring the game down weekly and expect the updates/fixes to take around an hour? ever play wow? their weekly "fixes" take half the damn day and alot of times extends past that. i, for one, like how their doin things and so do most of the subs to this game
Originally posted by grapevine Originally posted by silverreign wth is wrong with u, op? i would much rather have a daily update that takes less than 3 min to update than 1 day a week where the game is down 8+ hours every week. and if u dont think that is the majority opinion ask the 12 million subs to that game and im sure they can agree. by the time u go take a crap, make a pot of coffee or heaven forbid kiss ur "woman", the game is back and ur ready to go. hell, im assuming the game was down for u went u went to log on hense the ranting post. by the time u finished typing ur post, im sure the game was already patched and u were actually cutting into ur own playing time. stop whining and start playin.
You are confusing and compairing content patching, to (over exaggerate) brining down servers daily for 30 - 60 mins, because something was the wrong colour. i play daily and i cant remember the last time it was more than 30 min. and just because they dont give u a detailed report of what exactly was done doesnt mean nothing was needed/fixed. ur fooling urself if u think u know exactly what they r doing everytime
wth is wrong with u, op? i would much rather have a daily update that takes less than 3 min to update than 1 day a week where the game is down 8+ hours every week. and if u dont think that is the majority opinion ask the 12 million subs to that game and im sure they can agree. by the time u go take a crap, make a pot of coffee or heaven forbid kiss ur "woman", the game is back and ur ready to go. hell, im assuming the game was down for u went u went to log on hense the ranting post. by the time u finished typing ur post, im sure the game was already patched and u were actually cutting into ur own playing time. stop whining and start playin.
You are confusing and compairing content patching, to (over exaggerate) brining down servers daily for 30 - 60 mins, because something was the wrong colour.
i play daily and i cant remember the last time it was more than 30 min. and just because they dont give u a detailed report of what exactly was done doesnt mean nothing was needed/fixed. ur fooling urself if u think u know exactly what they r doing everytime
What they are doing has nothing to do with it. You need to read the OP's post again. It not about fixing, its about how often.
Its also highly unlikely you are playing 24/7 so have no real idea of how often they are taking the servers down. Its certainly more that you seem to be aware of. It seems little more than a case of "my play window isn't affected, so its fine".
Originally posted by grapevine Originally posted by silverreign
Originally posted by grapevine
Originally posted by silverreign wth is wrong with u, op? i would much rather have a daily update that takes less than 3 min to update than 1 day a week where the game is down 8+ hours every week. and if u dont think that is the majority opinion ask the 12 million subs to that game and im sure they can agree. by the time u go take a crap, make a pot of coffee or heaven forbid kiss ur "woman", the game is back and ur ready to go. hell, im assuming the game was down for u went u went to log on hense the ranting post. by the time u finished typing ur post, im sure the game was already patched and u were actually cutting into ur own playing time. stop whining and start playin.
You are confusing and compairing content patching, to (over exaggerate) brining down servers daily for 30 - 60 mins, because something was the wrong colour.
i play daily and i cant remember the last time it was more than 30 min. and just because they dont give u a detailed report of what exactly was done doesnt mean nothing was needed/fixed. ur fooling urself if u think u know exactly what they r doing everytime
What they are doing has nothing to do with it. You need to read the OP's post again. It not about fixing, its about how often.
Its also highly unlikely you are playing 24/7 so have no real idea of how often they are taking the servers down. Its certainly more that you seem to be aware of. It seems little more than a case of "my play window isn't affected, so its fine". actually, its a case of "they r doin a great job taking care of a game that has been around a little over a month". no game has launched recently with as little issues and bugs as rift. y? cus they r taking care of the game. let them continue to do so. if u dont like it, quit. that simple.
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Originally posted by madroxy
People cry about no patches... too many patches.... sickening! Always something to complain about in miserable lives.
Well misery loves company. Just imagine what will happen if Trion ever gets PvP right (which is impossible, you can't balance a game to please everyone simultaneously).
"Stupid Trion, always fixing their PvP! I want overpowered classes, and bugs that make my DOT spells not stick correctly!"
They aren't doing a great job, otherwise threads like this wouldn't exist.
They need to become more professional and schedule patching, instead of just doing it whenever for (often) very little reason.
Also as for quitting, that is why people have an issue with them patching so frequenting. They don't want to quit, but at the same time TRION is frequently interrupting their play time.
Originally posted by grapevine They aren't doing a great job, otherwise threads like this wouldn't exist.
They need to become more professional and schedule patching, instead of just doing it whenever for (often) very little reason.
Also as for quiting, that is why people have an issue with their patching frequencing. They don't want to quit, but at the same time TRION is frequenctly interrupting their play time.
seriously, it is not that often. i personally dont mind because i can think of other things to do anyways. ur right, maybe it is more often than i know. but from the replies in this post, that doesnt seem to be the case. threads like this will always exist because there will always b unsatisfied gamers who just want to complain.
They aren't doing a great job, otherwise threads like this wouldn't exist.
They need to become more professional and schedule patching, instead of just doing it whenever for (often) very little reason.
Also as for quiting, that is why people have an issue with their patching frequencing. They don't want to quit, but at the same time TRION is frequenctly interrupting their play time.
seriously, it is not that often. i personally dont mind because i can think of other things to do anyways. ur right, maybe it is more often than i know. but from the replies in this post, that doesnt seem to be the case. threads like this will always exist because there will always b unsatisfied gamers who just want to complain.
It may be not often during your play window, but that doesn't mean its not often over all. It also doesn't mean its not an issue for others. That is all you are simply either choosing to ingnore or don't understand.
OmaliMMO Business CorrespondentMemberUncommonPosts: 1,177
Originally posted by grapevine
They aren't doing a great job, otherwise threads like this wouldn't exist.
They need to become more professional and schedule patching, instead of just doing it whenever for (often) very little reason.
Also as for quitting, that is why people have an issue with them patching so frequenting. They don't want to quit, but at the same time TRION is frequently interrupting their play time.
Out of the 24 sets of patch notes since Trion launched Rift, 18 of them have been 8:00am PST. Aside from one or two instances, they never fall outside of the 6am to 8am range, and only one patch has gone live after 8am (10:15am), and almost all of the most recent patches have been 8am. That seems pretty decent scheduling to me.
I read this thread, and I almost want to laugh, I can remember all the folks telling me how polished of a game this was. Now I read this thread, and go wow so much for polish if there having to patch this often.
I feel for the folks who are having interrupted game play.
Originally posted by grapevine Originally posted by silverreign
Originally posted by grapevine They aren't doing a great job, otherwise threads like this wouldn't exist.
They need to become more professional and schedule patching, instead of just doing it whenever for (often) very little reason.
Also as for quiting, that is why people have an issue with their patching frequencing. They don't want to quit, but at the same time TRION is frequenctly interrupting their play time.
seriously, it is not that often. i personally dont mind because i can think of other things to do anyways. ur right, maybe it is more often than i know. but from the replies in this post, that doesnt seem to be the case. threads like this will always exist because there will always b unsatisfied gamers who just want to complain.
It may be not often during your play window, but that doesn't mean its not often over all. It also doesn't mean its not an issue for others. That is all you are simply either choosing to ingnore or don't understand. go back and read. i said ur right. maybe it is more often than i know. but i also know ive played games with weekly patching that has nothing but complaints to that. and ive played games with no patching. so i choose to play the game with frequent little patching. pick ur poison.
When I log in, there are very often patches waiting for me, but they don't take long to download and the servers are up when I want to play. Five to Fifteen minutes for a patch to download and install isn't a big deal to me. I think a bandwidth limited background downloader would address most of the time spent for patches to download.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Originally posted by Omali Originally posted by grapevine
They aren't doing a great job, otherwise threads like this wouldn't exist.
They need to become more professional and schedule patching, instead of just doing it whenever for (often) very little reason.
Also as for quitting, that is why people have an issue with them patching so frequenting. They don't want to quit, but at the same time TRION is frequently interrupting their play time.
Out of the 24 sets of patch notes since Trion launched Rift, 18 of them have been 8:00am PST. Aside from one or two instances, they never fall outside of the 6am to 8am range, and only one patch has gone live after 8am (10:15am), and almost all of the most recent patches have been 8am. That seems pretty decent scheduling to me. case closed.
In a crabby mood, logged into Rift only to find that yes, I have to download and install a patch before I can play.
True, most of these patches are small, only a few minutes to download, but it just seems that they should be past near daily patching of the client code by now.
And weekends, nothing more annoying than to settle down at 8:00 am on a Saturday to play some Rift only to get "sorry, we're bringing down the servers for 30 minutes to patch the game"
I'm glad they are so responsive and dedicated to making a smooth running product, but enough with the patching, confine it to once or twice a week already.
/rant off
This is why I would have to be a developer of any kind. You trurely can't make people happy. People want patches, updates and fixes, but don't want to download or install them...lol
I personally believe the more patches the better. Keep the fixes coming and if I have to not log on for 20-30 minutes, I'll survive. You're certainly entiltled to your opinion and if you'd like.... I could give you a list of about 20 games that never patch anything...lol
Well a schedule would be nice. I would hate to be half way through an Expert dungeon and have the cute little message come up that the shards are going down in 10 mins.
Rediculous, you people absoutly deserve the MMO genre you have created. They don't patch enough, they patch too much. You know what is destroying the MMO genre more than any other factor? It's people.
Rediculous, you people absoutly deserve the MMO genre you have created. They don't patch enough, they patch too much. You know what is destroying the MMO genre more than any other factor? It's people.
Oh freaking relax. The guy said it was just a rant. Get over it. Rants are just feeling at a particular moment that only last at that time. You guys are blowing his post way out of proportion. Be happy someone is eager enough to play the game to even say the case.
I would rather this then the once a week 6-10 hour server offline like some other games do. While it can be a pain I do not mind much, but the prime time/weekend thing I do agree if it is not something critical wait til off peak/Monday would be nice. And I think that was the OP point.
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How are they any less serious about patching their product if they take small patches they bring the server down to do every day and condense them into a weekly patch that happens at the same time, on the same day each week? We're not talking "once every two months" here.
If it's an emergency patch that they need to do "now", and they wait 'til the weekly patch, that's one thing. But considering it's been noted that the patches they're doing typically aren't fixing any major issues, etc... I don't see how that would be them "taking it less seriously". Many MMOs I've played from AAA companies follow a set schedule of weekly patches, with the occasional "emergency maintenance" thrown in as necessary. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
They're reducing overall down-time that way as well. Instead of taking it down almost daily for 20-30 minutes at a shot, they take it down once a week for maybe an hour and get it all done at once.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
wth is wrong with u, op? i would much rather have a daily update that takes less than 3 min to update than 1 day a week where the game is down 8+ hours every week. and if u dont think that is the majority opinion ask the 12 million subs to that game and im sure they can agree. by the time u go take a crap, make a pot of coffee or heaven forbid kiss ur "woman", the game is back and ur ready to go. hell, im assuming the game was down for u went u went to log on hense the ranting post. by the time u finished typing ur post, im sure the game was already patched and u were actually cutting into ur own playing time. stop whining and start playin.
You are confusing and compairing content patching, to (over exaggerate) brining down servers daily for 30 - 60 mins, because something was the wrong colour.
Not true they often take up to an hour, and often more than once per day.
People cry about no patches... too many patches.... sickening! Always something to complain about in miserable lives.
How are they any less serious about patching their product if they take small patches they bring the server down to do every day and condense them into a weekly patch that happens at the same time, on the same day each week? We're not talking "once every two months" here.
If it's an emergency patch that they need to do "now", and they wait 'til the weekly patch, that's one thing. But considering it's been noted that the patches they're doing typically aren't fixing any major issues, etc... I don't see how that would be them "taking it less seriously". Many MMOs I've played from AAA companies follow a set schedule of weekly patches, with the occasional "emergency maintenance" thrown in as necessary. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
They're reducing overall down-time that way as well. Instead of taking it down almost daily for 20-30 minutes at a shot, they take it down once a week for maybe an hour and get it all done at once.
so u want them to bring the game down weekly and expect the updates/fixes to take around an hour? ever play wow? their weekly "fixes" take half the damn day and alot of times extends past that. i, for one, like how their doin things and so do most of the subs to this game
You are confusing and compairing content patching, to (over exaggerate) brining down servers daily for 30 - 60 mins, because something was the wrong colour.
i play daily and i cant remember the last time it was more than 30 min. and just because they dont give u a detailed report of what exactly was done doesnt mean nothing was needed/fixed. ur fooling urself if u think u know exactly what they r doing everytime
What they are doing has nothing to do with it. You need to read the OP's post again. It not about fixing, its about how often.
Its also highly unlikely you are playing 24/7 so have no real idea of how often they are taking the servers down. Its certainly more that you seem to be aware of. It seems little more than a case of "my play window isn't affected, so its fine".
You are confusing and compairing content patching, to (over exaggerate) brining down servers daily for 30 - 60 mins, because something was the wrong colour.
i play daily and i cant remember the last time it was more than 30 min. and just because they dont give u a detailed report of what exactly was done doesnt mean nothing was needed/fixed. ur fooling urself if u think u know exactly what they r doing everytime
What they are doing has nothing to do with it. You need to read the OP's post again. It not about fixing, its about how often.
Its also highly unlikely you are playing 24/7 so have no real idea of how often they are taking the servers down. Its certainly more that you seem to be aware of. It seems little more than a case of "my play window isn't affected, so its fine".
actually, its a case of "they r doin a great job taking care of a game that has been around a little over a month". no game has launched recently with as little issues and bugs as rift. y? cus they r taking care of the game. let them continue to do so. if u dont like it, quit. that simple.
Well misery loves company. Just imagine what will happen if Trion ever gets PvP right (which is impossible, you can't balance a game to please everyone simultaneously).
"Stupid Trion, always fixing their PvP! I want overpowered classes, and bugs that make my DOT spells not stick correctly!"
They aren't doing a great job, otherwise threads like this wouldn't exist.
They need to become more professional and schedule patching, instead of just doing it whenever for (often) very little reason.
Also as for quitting, that is why people have an issue with them patching so frequenting. They don't want to quit, but at the same time TRION is frequently interrupting their play time.
It may be not often during your play window, but that doesn't mean its not often over all. It also doesn't mean its not an issue for others. That is all you are simply either choosing to ingnore or don't understand.
Out of the 24 sets of patch notes since Trion launched Rift, 18 of them have been 8:00am PST. Aside from one or two instances, they never fall outside of the 6am to 8am range, and only one patch has gone live after 8am (10:15am), and almost all of the most recent patches have been 8am. That seems pretty decent scheduling to me.
I read this thread, and I almost want to laugh, I can remember all the folks telling me how polished of a game this was. Now I read this thread, and go wow so much for polish if there having to patch this often.
I feel for the folks who are having interrupted game play.
seriously, it is not that often. i personally dont mind because i can think of other things to do anyways. ur right, maybe it is more often than i know. but from the replies in this post, that doesnt seem to be the case. threads like this will always exist because there will always b unsatisfied gamers who just want to complain.
It may be not often during your play window, but that doesn't mean its not often over all. It also doesn't mean its not an issue for others. That is all you are simply either choosing to ingnore or don't understand.
go back and read. i said ur right. maybe it is more often than i know. but i also know ive played games with weekly patching that has nothing but complaints to that. and ive played games with no patching. so i choose to play the game with frequent little patching. pick ur poison.
When I log in, there are very often patches waiting for me, but they don't take long to download and the servers are up when I want to play. Five to Fifteen minutes for a patch to download and install isn't a big deal to me. I think a bandwidth limited background downloader would address most of the time spent for patches to download.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
case closed.
This is why I would have to be a developer of any kind. You trurely can't make people happy. People want patches, updates and fixes, but don't want to download or install them...lol
I personally believe the more patches the better. Keep the fixes coming and if I have to not log on for 20-30 minutes, I'll survive. You're certainly entiltled to your opinion and if you'd like.... I could give you a list of about 20 games that never patch anything...lol
Well a schedule would be nice. I would hate to be half way through an Expert dungeon and have the cute little message come up that the shards are going down in 10 mins.
Pretty standard in any new MMO to see lots and lots of little patches.
Rediculous, you people absoutly deserve the MMO genre you have created. They don't patch enough, they patch too much. You know what is destroying the MMO genre more than any other factor? It's people.
Oh freaking relax. The guy said it was just a rant. Get over it. Rants are just feeling at a particular moment that only last at that time. You guys are blowing his post way out of proportion. Be happy someone is eager enough to play the game to even say the case.
I would rather this then the once a week 6-10 hour server offline like some other games do. While it can be a pain I do not mind much, but the prime time/weekend thing I do agree if it is not something critical wait til off peak/Monday would be nice. And I think that was the OP point.