Starvault has left a bad taste in my mouth two months ago. I am not surprised the MO community is causing some trouble on the forums that they have to tighten the rules. StarVault doesnt take care of there customers.
Example. I decided to try out MO last month on the trial offer. MO really sounded like a neat sandbox other then the obvious bug issues. Anyway, I made a character and after about 3 hours in game, I decided to go explore. As I am exploring the area I saw a large arena. I walked into the arena since the gates were opened and explored the side rooms inside. When I came back to the gates, they were shut. They wouldnt open upon clicking on them and no visible levers.
So I petitioned for a GM with a description of my issue and waited for an hour and got no response. I then decided to wait until the next day and see if they moved my character. Nope. So I went into the forums and found a topic someone made of the same problem two weeks prior. The response in it was from a community member is that its a known bug and to petition a GM and one should show in a few minutes. That didnt work last time so I posted on the same topic politely explaining the issue and doing so would bump up the topic again. Another 24 hours went by and a Moderator finally posted on the topic saying wait until the next event and the gates will open. The moderator then closed the thread so no more posts can be made. Also, the next scheduled event was not scheduled for another 3 days.
That game me an impression that they dont care about there customers and therefore they lost any chance of me forking over money to purchase the game that potentialy could have been great and fun for me.
Originally posted by Slapshot1188 The level of moderation has been considered by many to be way over the top/borderline censorship previously (simply do a forum search on here). Now StarVault has declared a dramatic increase in moderation including doubling of ban lengths and infraction points as well as a general increase in posts being moderated.
I would like to inform everyone to expect an increased presence from the moderation team both on IRC and the Forums. This means that actions that previously were left alone, will now be acted upon. I would advise that more thought is put into making the posts, as any single "One Liners", or even "One Word" responses will be removed.
At the same time please familiarize yourself with the new infraction times, as they have been updated to reflect the increase in moderation. As a general rule, expect ban lengths, as well as infraction point lengths to be double of what they used to be in the past.
The Mortal Online forums are there to enjoy and discuss things in a positive environment, any outright negativity, trolling, or insulting will be subject to moderation, for those that have already been abiding by the rules, nothing should change only for those who have been "borderline" will find themselves dealt with much sooner.
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I can't help but assume that this is in preparation for the launch of the highly anticipated DAWN expansion. Well I hope it works out for them, but history has demonstrated that these practices have backfired for them in the past. Particularly given the fact that the customer forums are for paying customers. I could understand if this was applied to the free forums but it appears to be a blanket policy change. We shall see.
Slapshot you are strange - why make all these negative posts about MO? Seriously if you do not like the game then walk away.
The level of moderation has been considered by many to be way over the top/borderline censorship previously (simply do a forum search on here). Now StarVault has declared a dramatic increase in moderation including doubling of ban lengths and infraction points as well as a general increase in posts being moderated.
I would like to inform everyone to expect an increased presence from the moderation team both on IRC and the Forums. This means that actions that previously were left alone, will now be acted upon. I would advise that more thought is put into making the posts, as any single "One Liners", or even "One Word" responses will be removed.
At the same time please familiarize yourself with the new infraction times, as they have been updated to reflect the increase in moderation. As a general rule, expect ban lengths, as well as infraction point lengths to be double of what they used to be in the past.
The Mortal Online forums are there to enjoy and discuss things in a positive environment, any outright negativity, trolling, or insulting will be subject to moderation, for those that have already been abiding by the rules, nothing should change only for those who have been "borderline" will find themselves dealt with much sooner.
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I can't help but assume that this is in preparation for the launch of the highly anticipated DAWN expansion. Well I hope it works out for them, but history has demonstrated that these practices have backfired for them in the past. Particularly given the fact that the customer forums are for paying customers. I could understand if this was applied to the free forums but it appears to be a blanket policy change. We shall see.
Slapshot you are strange - why make all these negative posts about MO? Seriously if you do not like the game then walk away.
If you had cared to read, he does like MO in its concept and was excited for Dawn.
He just, like many others, criticises the way SV manages their project.
all that he says is absolutely spot on, does the truth bother you?
Sorry I copy and pasted this because it may get deleted, but it seems they are using the rep system on the official forums to "big brother" people to make sure only positive things are being said. Here is the link but I think it will be deleted soon.
I don't like the way they deal with the rep system.
I got a infraction for -repping someone because i disagreed with the the context of their post which promoted grieving.
Spoiler for not for mods:
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Originally Posted by princereaper
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talwin
Dear princereaper,
You have received a warning at Mortal Online Forums.
Reason:
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Abuse of Reputation
The reputation system is not a system where you can send small messages to people or use it to "agree" or "disagree" with something. The reputation system is to be used to +rep good, useful posts or helpful people. This is not twitter. This is not facebook. Please use the system correctly.
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Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.
All the best,
Mortal Online Forums
so what do you -rep people for then? and is this really worth a infraction?
i think every -rep i got would cause every person to get a infraction then, since obviously its ok to randomly -rep someone.....
they changed the rep system from something that you could send compliments to people for their posts, to a system that "rewards" people for being "helpful"
well guys guess what :P just write, "helpful post" from now on when you rep someone.
I voted yes, but I got to agree with princereaper.
The new reputation system sucks really hard and I hate that the mods read what I approve or disapprove for whatever reason. On top of that they can force their opinion on me by infracting me or deleting the rep I gave.
Their customer service is pretty lousy most of the time. Mainly when it comes to missing items/mounts. Their lack of a release date on Dawn is also very bad.
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beating a myrm is srs bsns. its like downing a boss
Launch? The games been out for a good while now. It's basically a company that is almost scamming it's users. By this time next year, if not sooner, the game will be dead.
Oh, and one other thing - the official forums of just about every other game operate in about the same way.
I have never seen a foum where "any single "One Liners", or even "One Word" responses" were as policy banned....Well.. I have now, but never before.
Seriously, it's too easy for a poster to open up 10 threads and type non-constructive and intrusive variations of "this game sucks" or "this game's awesome". Or, 20 threads. Or 30 threads.
What you describe is not what is under discussion here. It CLEARLY says "any single "One Liners", or even "One Word" responses".
No where does it say.."open up 10 threads"
This is NOTHING like any forum of any game I have ever played.
So you think that the guy at the top of this post brought something to this topic with his "ok" post. I see no problem with them getting rid of that crap. If all you can respond to this is ok then you probally have more problems at hand.. like forming sentences.
How many delicate flowers have you met in Counterstrike?
I got a case of beer and a chainsaw waiting for me at home after work.
Oh, and one other thing - the official forums of just about every other game operate in about the same way.
I have never seen a foum where "any single "One Liners", or even "One Word" responses" were as policy banned....Well.. I have now, but never before.
Seriously, it's too easy for a poster to open up 10 threads and type non-constructive and intrusive variations of "this game sucks" or "this game's awesome". Or, 20 threads. Or 30 threads.
What you describe is not what is under discussion here. It CLEARLY says "any single "One Liners", or even "One Word" responses".
No where does it say.."open up 10 threads"
This is NOTHING like any forum of any game I have ever played.
So you think that the guy at the top of this post brought something to this topic with his "ok" post. I see no problem with them getting rid of that crap. If all you can respond to this is ok then you probally have more problems at hand.. like forming sentences.
Good job at selective reading and missing the point entirely.
Oh, and one other thing - the official forums of just about every other game operate in about the same way.
I have never seen a foum where "any single "One Liners", or even "One Word" responses" were as policy banned....Well.. I have now, but never before.
Seriously, it's too easy for a poster to open up 10 threads and type non-constructive and intrusive variations of "this game sucks" or "this game's awesome". Or, 20 threads. Or 30 threads.
What you describe is not what is under discussion here. It CLEARLY says "any single "One Liners", or even "One Word" responses".
No where does it say.."open up 10 threads"
This is NOTHING like any forum of any game I have ever played.
So you think that the guy at the top of this post brought something to this topic with his "ok" post. I see no problem with them getting rid of that crap. If all you can respond to this is ok then you probally have more problems at hand.. like forming sentences.
Good job at selective reading and missing the point entirely.
A viewpoint that doesn't match yours is not the same thing as 'missing the point'.
Oh, and one other thing - the official forums of just about every other game operate in about the same way.
I have never seen a foum where "any single "One Liners", or even "One Word" responses" were as policy banned....Well.. I have now, but never before.
Seriously, it's too easy for a poster to open up 10 threads and type non-constructive and intrusive variations of "this game sucks" or "this game's awesome". Or, 20 threads. Or 30 threads.
What you describe is not what is under discussion here. It CLEARLY says "any single "One Liners", or even "One Word" responses".
No where does it say.."open up 10 threads"
This is NOTHING like any forum of any game I have ever played.
So you think that the guy at the top of this post brought something to this topic with his "ok" post. I see no problem with them getting rid of that crap. If all you can respond to this is ok then you probally have more problems at hand.. like forming sentences.
Good job at selective reading and missing the point entirely.
A viewpoint that doesn't match yours is not the same thing as 'missing the point'.
Yes, however you are cleary doing the latest. Spamming 10 threads is not same thing as posting few oneliners.
"The Mortal Online forums are there to enjoy and discuss things in a positive environment, any outright negativity, trolling, or insulting will be subject to moderation"
That is the part that bothers me. Any outright negativity. So if the new patch comes out. . eventually. . and someone like me who is watching the forums to see how the launch goes checks in they will see nothing negative. . only "positive environment". That sounds like garbage to me.
The purpose of the system is very imprecisely defined - so much so, it's easy for mods to become abusive.
To the mods: What is a "good" post? What is a "bad" one? Perhaps just as importantly, what does each individual mod consider to be a good or bad post, because that's the requirement that will need to be satisfied. As posters, we need to be able to predict what each individual mod thinks is a good post or a bad one.
Obviously, that criteria is simply too subjective, and yet warnings and infractions are going to be doled out as a result of not guessing correctly. Very unprofessional.
Furthermore, the text boxes are woefully inadequate for anything more than a "Twitter" type entry, so again I ask the mods: how are they supposed to be used? What are we expected to type in that laughably small box?
It's pretty rare to find such unclear and potentially abusive policies being promulgated by a professional organization. Yet, here we are.
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"The Mortal Online forums are there to enjoy and discuss things in a positive environment, any outright negativity, trolling, or insulting will be subject to moderation"
That is the part that bothers me. Any outright negativity. So if the new patch comes out. . eventually. . and someone like me who is watching the forums to see how the launch goes checks in they will see nothing negative. . only "positive environment". That sounds like garbage to me.
There are critical posts on the official forums every day, just as there are positive ones.
A positive environment does not mean "only positive posts allowed". It does mean that they will control the environment so that the people who pay to play the game and use the forum will be able to do so effectively. Just about every company manages the environment of their official forum in the same way.
It's different from the environment fostered by MMORPG.com here, which is free to the user, and generates revenue based on advertising.
"The Mortal Online forums are there to enjoy and discuss things in a positive environment, any outright negativity, trolling, or insulting will be subject to moderation"
That is the part that bothers me. Any outright negativity. So if the new patch comes out. . eventually. . and someone like me who is watching the forums to see how the launch goes checks in they will see nothing negative. . only "positive environment". That sounds like garbage to me.
There are critical posts on the official forums every day, just as there are positive ones.
A positive environment does not mean "only positive posts allowed". It does mean that they will control the environment so that the people who pay to play the game and use the forum will be able to do so effectively. Just about every company manages the environment of their official forum in the same way.
It's different from the environment fostered by MMORPG.com here, which is free to the user, and generates revenue based on advertising.
Selective reading ftw. Plus good job on trying to move the topic somewhere else.
Well, they know that the majority of their playerbase is a masochistic bunch, so making them suffer both on the forums and while playing just makes good business sense.
/smarm off
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
"The Mortal Online forums are there to enjoy and discuss things in a positive environment, any outright negativity, trolling, or insulting will be subject to moderation"
That is the part that bothers me. Any outright negativity. So if the new patch comes out. . eventually. . and someone like me who is watching the forums to see how the launch goes checks in they will see nothing negative. . only "positive environment". That sounds like garbage to me.
There are critical posts on the official forums every day, just as there are positive ones.
A positive environment does not mean "only positive posts allowed". It does mean that they will control the environment so that the people who pay to play the game and use the forum will be able to do so effectively. Just about every company manages the environment of their official forum in the same way.
It's different from the environment fostered by MMORPG.com here, which is free to the user, and generates revenue based on advertising.
Negativity is very subjective, and SV just adapts it to sack whoever they like when they see a post they dislike.
Well, they know that the majority of their playerbase is a masochistic bunch, so making them suffer both on the forums and while playing just makes good business sense.
Originally posted by Slapshot1188 Originally posted by RedRocket
Righty right. Bet they're moving to China because their sense of censorship is about equal. MMORPG linking. XD
Wow. Simply linking to a thread on here can get you permabanned on the official forums?!?!
ROFL. That is incredible!
sheesh, I'm done following this game. I'm never resubbing nor am I going to install their trial. These forums here can be a tad obnoxious but to ban for linking to it? This and the Dawn launch = I'm done, this is the worst $58.11 I've ever spent.
not sure why so many people have problems with the MO forums, i have been active on them since 2009 and from my post count you can see that i am a very active member. However when something is broken in MO i criticise it and post my concerns and have never recieved an infraction or ban from the forums. However truth be told i do not use bad/foul language or attempt to insult other players or the gms or have never purposefully trolled the forums or any forum. I dont know the rules of the mo forums i have never read them and havent reiceved a ban for anything so it must just be common sense which is something quite a few people lack i guess.
Sure there are those who dispise MO and hate SV but once they start insulting players devs and genreal trolling they should expect to get banned. I know there are butthurt players on these very forums who were previously banned from MO and now take it upon themselves to discredit the game on its flaws and nitpick over the slightest mistakes. But seriously MO offers soemthing no other MMO can despite its bugs and anyone who has sat down and played MO for a good length of time will tell you that MO is strange beast with bugs and faults aplenty but theres alot of fun to be had and its fun you cant get anywhere else.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
Bet they're moving to China because their sense of censorship is about equal. MMORPG linking. XD
Wow. Simply linking to a thread on here can get you permabanned on the official forums?!?!
ROFL. That is incredible!
sheesh, I'm done following this game. I'm never resubbing nor am I going to install their trial. These forums here can be a tad obnoxious but to ban for linking to it? This and the Dawn launch = I'm done, this is the worst $58.11 I've ever spent.
Good luck Slapshot and Hercules.
I've linked to these forums several times without issue. I think MMORPG was not so much the infraction as part of the method ( i. e. what the MO forum mods considered trolling) Redrocket created his account here 12 days ago and has made 21 negative posts about MO and is walking right up to the line with his comments about china and censorship. There was probably more to his post to give rise to a ban than just a link to this forum.
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..........wheres delete!
Starvault has left a bad taste in my mouth two months ago. I am not surprised the MO community is causing some trouble on the forums that they have to tighten the rules. StarVault doesnt take care of there customers.
Example. I decided to try out MO last month on the trial offer. MO really sounded like a neat sandbox other then the obvious bug issues. Anyway, I made a character and after about 3 hours in game, I decided to go explore. As I am exploring the area I saw a large arena. I walked into the arena since the gates were opened and explored the side rooms inside. When I came back to the gates, they were shut. They wouldnt open upon clicking on them and no visible levers.
So I petitioned for a GM with a description of my issue and waited for an hour and got no response. I then decided to wait until the next day and see if they moved my character. Nope. So I went into the forums and found a topic someone made of the same problem two weeks prior. The response in it was from a community member is that its a known bug and to petition a GM and one should show in a few minutes. That didnt work last time so I posted on the same topic politely explaining the issue and doing so would bump up the topic again. Another 24 hours went by and a Moderator finally posted on the topic saying wait until the next event and the gates will open. The moderator then closed the thread so no more posts can be made. Also, the next scheduled event was not scheduled for another 3 days.
That game me an impression that they dont care about there customers and therefore they lost any chance of me forking over money to purchase the game that potentialy could have been great and fun for me.
Slapshot you are strange - why make all these negative posts about MO? Seriously if you do not like the game then walk away.
If you had cared to read, he does like MO in its concept and was excited for Dawn.
He just, like many others, criticises the way SV manages their project.
all that he says is absolutely spot on, does the truth bother you?
Ahh, good read. May not have all meaningless threads/posts then. Btw, why is this discussed? Stay in order and there is no problems at all, is there?
Everyone whining about this is probabely the ones making all the meaningless posts then i recon? Why be this upset otherwise?
things like /signed /sgree ok can i have your stuff etc etc ar also considered spam on eve online forums but that rule is not enforced
BestSigEver :P
Sorry I copy and pasted this because it may get deleted, but it seems they are using the rep system on the official forums to "big brother" people to make sure only positive things are being said. Here is the link but I think it will be deleted soon.
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/62305-company-conduct.html
princereaper
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: england,london
Rep Power: 2
Are you happy with how sv conduct their business? and how would you like to improve it? and what do you dislike about the way business is conducted?
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Rep Power: 2
I don't like the way they deal with the rep system.
I got a infraction for -repping someone because i disagreed with the the context of their post which promoted grieving.
Spoiler for not for mods:
Quote:
Originally Posted by princereaper
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talwin
Dear princereaper,
You have received a warning at Mortal Online Forums.
Reason:
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Abuse of Reputation
The reputation system is not a system where you can send small messages to people or use it to "agree" or "disagree" with something. The reputation system is to be used to +rep good, useful posts or helpful people. This is not twitter. This is not facebook. Please use the system correctly.
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Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.
All the best,
Mortal Online Forums
so what do you -rep people for then? and is this really worth a infraction?
i think every -rep i got would cause every person to get a infraction then, since obviously its ok to randomly -rep someone.....
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they changed the rep system from something that you could send compliments to people for their posts, to a system that "rewards" people for being "helpful"
well guys guess what :P just write, "helpful post" from now on when you rep someone.
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I voted yes, but I got to agree with princereaper.
The new reputation system sucks really hard and I hate that the mods read what I approve or disapprove for whatever reason. On top of that they can force their opinion on me by infracting me or deleting the rep I gave.
^I approve of princerapers post.
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I voted yes, but I got to agree with princereaper.
The new reputation system sucks really hard and I hate that the mods read what I approve or disapprove for whatever reason.
^I approve of princerapers post.
im giving you +rep for being "helpful"
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i need to spread it around more ;(
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Their customer service is pretty lousy most of the time. Mainly when it comes to missing items/mounts. Their lack of a release date on Dawn is also very bad.
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Originally Posted by Angarato
beating a myrm is srs bsns. its like downing a boss
No suprise for the worst MMO launch of all times.
Launch? The games been out for a good while now. It's basically a company that is almost scamming it's users. By this time next year, if not sooner, the game will be dead.
So you think that the guy at the top of this post brought something to this topic with his "ok" post. I see no problem with them getting rid of that crap. If all you can respond to this is ok then you probally have more problems at hand.. like forming sentences.
How many delicate flowers have you met in Counterstrike?
I got a case of beer and a chainsaw waiting for me at home after work.
Good job at selective reading and missing the point entirely.
A viewpoint that doesn't match yours is not the same thing as 'missing the point'.
Yes, however you are cleary doing the latest. Spamming 10 threads is not same thing as posting few oneliners.
"The Mortal Online forums are there to enjoy and discuss things in a positive environment, any outright negativity, trolling, or insulting will be subject to moderation"
That is the part that bothers me. Any outright negativity. So if the new patch comes out. . eventually. . and someone like me who is watching the forums to see how the launch goes checks in they will see nothing negative. . only "positive environment". That sounds like garbage to me.
Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!
A fairly well thought out post from one of our MMORPG.COM members:
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SOFWarrior
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Join Date: May 2009
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It's best not to use the rep system.
The purpose of the system is very imprecisely defined - so much so, it's easy for mods to become abusive.
To the mods: What is a "good" post? What is a "bad" one? Perhaps just as importantly, what does each individual mod consider to be a good or bad post, because that's the requirement that will need to be satisfied. As posters, we need to be able to predict what each individual mod thinks is a good post or a bad one.
Obviously, that criteria is simply too subjective, and yet warnings and infractions are going to be doled out as a result of not guessing correctly. Very unprofessional.
Furthermore, the text boxes are woefully inadequate for anything more than a "Twitter" type entry, so again I ask the mods: how are they supposed to be used? What are we expected to type in that laughably small box?
It's pretty rare to find such unclear and potentially abusive policies being promulgated by a professional organization. Yet, here we are.
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"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
There are critical posts on the official forums every day, just as there are positive ones.
A positive environment does not mean "only positive posts allowed". It does mean that they will control the environment so that the people who pay to play the game and use the forum will be able to do so effectively. Just about every company manages the environment of their official forum in the same way.
It's different from the environment fostered by MMORPG.com here, which is free to the user, and generates revenue based on advertising.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
Selective reading ftw. Plus good job on trying to move the topic somewhere else.
Well, they know that the majority of their playerbase is a masochistic bunch, so making them suffer both on the forums and while playing just makes good business sense.
/smarm off
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
Negativity is very subjective, and SV just adapts it to sack whoever they like when they see a post they dislike.
/This
http://www.entropiapartners.com/?r=22415
Righty right.
Bet they're moving to China because their sense of censorship is about equal. MMORPG linking. XD
Wow. Simply linking to a thread on here can get you permabanned on the official forums?!?!
ROFL. That is incredible!
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
ROFL. That is incredible!
sheesh, I'm done following this game. I'm never resubbing nor am I going to install their trial. These forums here can be a tad obnoxious but to ban for linking to it? This and the Dawn launch = I'm done, this is the worst $58.11 I've ever spent.
Good luck Slapshot and Hercules.
not sure why so many people have problems with the MO forums, i have been active on them since 2009 and from my post count you can see that i am a very active member. However when something is broken in MO i criticise it and post my concerns and have never recieved an infraction or ban from the forums. However truth be told i do not use bad/foul language or attempt to insult other players or the gms or have never purposefully trolled the forums or any forum. I dont know the rules of the mo forums i have never read them and havent reiceved a ban for anything so it must just be common sense which is something quite a few people lack i guess.
Sure there are those who dispise MO and hate SV but once they start insulting players devs and genreal trolling they should expect to get banned. I know there are butthurt players on these very forums who were previously banned from MO and now take it upon themselves to discredit the game on its flaws and nitpick over the slightest mistakes. But seriously MO offers soemthing no other MMO can despite its bugs and anyone who has sat down and played MO for a good length of time will tell you that MO is strange beast with bugs and faults aplenty but theres alot of fun to be had and its fun you cant get anywhere else.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
I've linked to these forums several times without issue. I think MMORPG was not so much the infraction as part of the method ( i. e. what the MO forum mods considered trolling) Redrocket created his account here 12 days ago and has made 21 negative posts about MO and is walking right up to the line with his comments about china and censorship. There was probably more to his post to give rise to a ban than just a link to this forum.
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