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I'm not sure if you noticed, but the amount of stuff you need to kill/collect doesn't change in other MMOs when a friend shows up. It stays at 20 always.
I love this, you get hard evidence that you are wrong, and your response is that is an old article. Did you try and provide video proof to back up what you said or an article; nope just I am right and you’re wrong. See I can do this to, I am a god and I can walk on water, man it is fun to make stuff up without any proof!
Wrong. If you need 20, and a friend also needs 20, you need to kill 40. It is only within the last year or two that mobs started dropping items for everyone in the group.
I can tell you aren't an oldschool mmo player.
Surprised Robert is back to his old shenangins to be honest. He's more of a believer than an actual contributer. Ya know what, I'm just going to do what he does. Everyone here arguing against Robert, you're ALL right. In every way. Robert's wrong. FACT. Argument ended.
Robert's been spouting off the same crap that he had months ago. He's probably one of the more pathetic posters this site has. He doesn't argue because there's anything to argue about, he argues because he finds things in his own little head to argue about. He will always believe that GW2 is a failure, no matter what.
Robert, I hope you realize that you've lost this entire argument just like you lost the arguments we had 4-5 months ago. Same arguments that you have end up with the same results. Believe that you're right all you want, but you're not. In any way shape or form. You're wrong. You'll always be wrong. You'll never be right. Deal with it.
Quests: A Flawed Content Type
When building an MMO, we had to examine every core piece of accepted content from traditional games in the genre and ask, "How can this be improved?" By looking at the traditional quest system used in basically every MMO ever made, we've come to the conclusion that quests have a lot of areas for improvement. To address these flaws, we've developed our dynamic event system.
Traditional quest systems involve walking up to a character who usually has an exclamation point or question mark hovering over their head and talking to them. From here, you get a massive wall of text hardly anyone reads that describes a horrible or totally mundane thing going on in the world that you need to help with. You run off, complete this task, then return and talk to this character again to receive another wall of text and a reward. Traditional quest systems rely on these blocks of quest text to tell you what is happening in the world; this is just an outdated form of storytelling.
http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/dynamic-events/dynamic-events-overview/
This is how we know that you are hallucinating. You have substituted dreams for reality, and insist upon them in lieu of demonstrated evidence. Anybody with any questions can visit the link above and confirm for themselves what is being said. The version of events that exist in someone's head may be facts to them, but no-one else.
Sorry, but everyone knows all games are subject to change, especially during development.
I can provide you hard evidence where they claimed you wouldn't be collecting crap like traditional mmos have you do too, and then they had you collecting harpy glands... things change son.
Oh was I wrong that the game suffered insane lag with 50 people on screen casting?
Was I wrong that there were exclamation marks and event helpers?
Was i wrong that they tasked you to collect harpy glands?
Oh wait those are facts... and oh wait, you are in denial.
Now you are gravitating towards ad hominem personal attacks, cause you can't actually win the argument, because my facts are too strong.
Btw i'd suggest staying away from ad hominem attacks, they are tasteless and a clear sign of a defeated poster.
It marked the resurrection of RobertDinh! How prophetic of you!
I agree, the movement is so clunky compared to wow, yet you will see gw2 fans and even gw1 fans argue about how their games are just as fluidic. (You basically have to be blind to think so)
OH! OH! Please do! <333333
And where are your facts that the personal story is now all instanced and none of it takes place in the persistent world? Or are we just suppose to just take your word on it, if you are making the argument you must have the facts on hand, so show it to us!
And please show me the developer quote where they said there will never be a kill quest or a quest to collect items in game. Please show us since you have all of these facts share them, we are willing to share with you, are you to good to share with us?
You know he won't. Its not his job to back up his claims with proof.
Manifesto... game set and match....
I know, I just love me some Jon Stewart. He makes every thread better.
FIrst off, it's dynamic because progress is kept. In the example I gave if one person is there and is halfway through killing 10 and another player shows up, they would need 15 kills to finish it, not 10 or 20.
Second, we shouldn't assume that there's always a linear relationship. Events scale to keep it interesting. Suppose one player fights one mob at a time. Two players fight two mobs. Maybe three players fight four mobs because ArenaNet expects players to start focus firing enemies.
Third, dynamic events can have win/lose conditions that can't easily be reproduced in quests, like putting fires out (in a certain time limit) or preventing hay bales from being burned. Who is to say that these conditions couldn't be adjusted in ways independent of the number of players there, like having fires spread over time?
Fourth, when it isn't just X mobs and involves a boss, the boss will gain new abilities as more players fight it. That certainly doesn't happen with quests.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." -Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
Progress is kept in other mmos too. And we don't have to assume it is linear... it's a known fact.
Has ANYONE even considered that this might simply be GW2's version of a collector NPC? I mean come on... you talk to him, he lets you know you'll get some neat little item if you bring him a few monster parts... It's a collector. Like I assume the guys who give you bee-jars and pies are. They're all over GW1
Anet has been MUCH too insistent on events being a dynamic replacement to static quests as game content for them to just pull a "lol quests" on us.
~The only opinion that matters is your own.Everything else is just advice,~
Manifesto has been covered. You failed to acknowledge you were beaten on that one. Try another.
RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.
Ok, you've examined every aspect of all 1500-1600 dynamic events and determined that the scaling for all is completely linear. Thank you for the clarification, Mr. Johanson.
What about the other 3 points I made?
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." -Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
The clunkest game I have ever tried to play is Vanguard. WoW is clunky, but it is not bad. I addmit that I am looking forward to GW2, I also have a lot of concerns.
Seems you failed to cover collecting wolf parts, as opposed to collecting harpy glands....
game set and match....
To be honest your coverage of the manifesto was so subjective and flawed I didn't even want to waste time addressing it.
You claim to want everyone to be well informed, but you are just a sheep in wolf's clothing.
WoW movement isn't clunky at all if you mouse turn and strafe properly.
I'm disappointed, RobertDinh (not really). I thought you would do better than this brazen dishonesty.
Any interested parties, here is the manifesto:
There is only dialogue during the first 3:06 of the video, so it won't take up too much of your time. RobertDinh won't eat his words, but the video makes a liar out of him.