Also- The excuse that "These 3 factions don't like each other but know that they need to work together...." is lame.
That is just an easy way out of the situation.
Reminds me of Warhammer Online and the excuses they gave for the factions being allied into a side versus side type thing.
I could be wrong here but as in my previous post World PVP to me relates to zonal PVP as in certain areas are designated for PVP only,ie Stone Henge,El Dorado are designed for that purpose i would expect u join a lobby of some sort to access the areas?,and these areas constitute world PVP.
In the secret war there seems to be a 4th enemy that unites the factions in the Secret World environs so they fight together against a common enemy so traditional PVP would not work as far as i understand it.
PVP servers & PVE servers; a solution that has been working wonders in catering for both kind of players for over a decade.
Which is why Anet's and now Funcom's decision to go with a single ruleset pisses me off so much.
Don't deny those who love world pvp their fun, I am not denying you your fun (on pve servers) either.
Now Pony there's no neighd to get your hoofs in a bunch, pull the bubble gum off your tail and trot along to a decent world PVP offering.
Sure but it's not so simple to just write off a game for any personal future interest like that.
"Oh, it can has no world pvp? Very well, I'll be on my way then." *Trots off humming merry tune*
That isn't the way it works for me.
There shall be bitching and moaning about hefty decisions that impact my personal preferences so much. Same with their box + sub + cashshop business model which I find disgraceful.
... Twice now they have invoked the Pony's wrath! *stomps hoof*
Open-world pvp games are dead. Get over it and stop living in the past.
And your proof to justify such a statement? It's quite funny, because there's an aweful lot of people who want open world PvP between three factions. Whether it's dead (no one is doing it) or not, the players obviously want it.
Don't bother providing proof, we know you don't have it.
Don't deny those who love world pvp their fun, I am not denying you your fun (on pve servers) either.
They aren't denying anyone any fun. They just aren't making the type of game that you are looking for.
Yes, by denying me my fun. Is it so hard to place yourself in someone else's shoes?
If they would have announced: World PVP servers only, I personally would have understood people protesting about that very well.
In my eyes, mmorpg's not catering for both kind of playstyles are doing it wrong and are bound to invoke the wrath of those who feel left out. Which makes my stance on this very predictable and reasonable, really.
Also- The excuse that "These 3 factions don't like each other but know that they need to work together...." is lame.
That is just an easy way out of the situation.
Reminds me of Warhammer Online and the excuses they gave for the factions being allied into a side versus side type thing.
I could be wrong here but as in my previous post World PVP to me relates to zonal PVP as in certain areas are designated for PVP only,ie Stone Henge,El Dorado are designed for that purpose i would expect u join a lobby of some sort to access the areas?,and these areas constitute world PVP.
In the secret war there seems to be a 4th enemy that unites the factions in the Secret World environs so they fight together against a common enemy so traditional PVP would not work as far as i understand it.
Well, in the video it does discuss Stone Henge and such, but it also discusses
"Open Type Areas In Which 100s (or up to 100) people battle it out."
Personally I viewed this as "world" pvp, as it is not instanced, (you don't have to que for it). I may have mis-heard, as I only watched the video once, but it seemed to me that there was some kind of World pvp in this game?
If I am wrong, feel free to let me know.
I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.
Guess i can strike TSW off my list. I've never really been one for raiding once at max level and without world PvP it doesn't sound like the game would have any reason for me to continue playing. 3 factions, what a missed opportunity.
So just like SW:TOR, TSW will also be a CORPG, falsely labeled as a massively-multiplayer online game, unless ones definition of MMO is 100's of players cooperating and competing in text-writing/chatting within a general chat-box simultaneoulsy.
Sure but it's not so simple to just write off a game for any personal future interest like that.
"Oh, it can has no world pvp? Very well, I'll be on my way then." *Trots off humming merry tune*
That isn't the way it works for me.
There shall be bitching and moaning about hefty decisions that impact my personal preferences so much. Same with their box + sub + cashshop business model which I find disgraceful.
... Twice now they have invoked the Pony's wrath! *stomps hoof*
I understand the disappointment you're feeling over this, I feel it as well. TSW was definitely on my radar, it still will be for the stories and such. I just won't be looking to make it a long term home.
While I agree that it probably is best to fit in as many demographics as possible, that doesn't mean all features will work from game to game. If there's a story reason for no open world FFA PVP or faction PVP like that, it makes sense that it's not there IMO.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
So just like SW:TOR, TSW will also be a CORPG, falsely labeled as a massively-multiplayer online game, unless ones definition of MMO is 100's of players cooperating and competing in text-writing/chatting within a general chat-box simultaneoulsy.
Shows you know very little about Swtor.
Which will in fact offer pvp servers with open world pvp as well as objective based world pvp with territorial control on all kinds of servers. (and also a means to get your pvp gear just through world pvp if you dislike instanced pvp).
TSW is much more shaping up like GW2: Three factions yet no pvp in the open game world, to name two smashing similarities.
Originally posted by afhn2110 I know a lot of pvpers that were really looking forward to pvp with this game, me being one. I had the chance to speak with Ragnar 1 on 1, and found that he's a great guy with a vision. The sad thing is, to those pvpers that are looking for open world pvp....your not in his vision. I asked about the fact that we have three factions, so I'm assuming that means we can fight in open world when crossing factions. The response was, "good question, while the three factions don't like one another, they understand that they need to work together to defeat the forces (npcs) and therefor there is governing body that sets rules amongst the three factions." He went on to say that there will be battlegrounds type of pvp, but absolutely no world pvp when I spoked to him after the panel. I even asked about the opportunity for a pvp server where the factions could fight one another and he said it wouldn't even be considored because it doesn't fit the game. He did say that if the communty demanded clan war deccing on the forums, then he'd considor that.
So, while a great guy...and probably a great pve game based on what I saw, if you are looking for the open world pvp, whether it be faction based on ffa, its not here. This was such a heartbreaker for me...
That pretty much about killed all my interest in the game.
I know a lot of pvpers that were really looking forward to pvp with this game, me being one. I had the chance to speak with Ragnar 1 on 1, and found that he's a great guy with a vision. The sad thing is, to those pvpers that are looking for open world pvp....your not in his vision. I asked about the fact that we have three factions, so I'm assuming that means we can fight in open world when crossing factions. The response was, "good question, while the three factions don't like one another, they understand that they need to work together to defeat the forces (npcs) and therefor there is governing body that sets rules amongst the three factions." He went on to say that there will be battlegrounds type of pvp, but absolutely no world pvp when I spoked to him after the panel. I even asked about the opportunity for a pvp server where the factions could fight one another and he said it wouldn't even be considored because it doesn't fit the game. He did say that if the communty demanded clan war deccing on the forums, then he'd considor that.
So, while a great guy...and probably a great pve game based on what I saw, if you are looking for the open world pvp, whether it be faction based on ffa, its not here. This was such a heartbreaker for me...
That pretty much about killed all my interest in the game.
Just to clarify there will be open PVP play-fields similar to GW2.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Sure but it's not so simple to just write off a game for any personal future interest like that.
"Oh, it can has no world pvp? Very well, I'll be on my way then." *Trots off humming merry tune*
That isn't the way it works for me.
There shall be bitching and moaning about hefty decisions that impact my personal preferences so much. Same with their box + sub + cashshop business model which I find disgraceful.
... Twice now they have invoked the Pony's wrath! *stomps hoof*
I understand the disappointment you're feeling over this, I feel it as well. TSW was definitely on my radar, it still will be for the stories and such. I just won't be looking to make it a long term home.
While I agree that it probably is best to fit in as many demographics as possible, that doesn't mean all features will work from game to game. If there's a story reason for no open world FFA PVP or faction PVP like that, it makes sense that it's not there IMO.
Agreed. But the really awkward bit about that is that all the story we've had so far as well as their hyping people up with that "Which faction will you choose?" campaign, is actually suggesting that those factions could actually drink eachother's blood ... rather than hold eachother's hands in the open world.
Confirms my suspicions that the game's intended target groups are the more fashion and social life conscious amongst us who indeed would spend a little cash in a clothing store occasionaly to endulge themselves in toying with their character's looks.
Like GW2 then, where everyone in the open world will be your buddy. V_V
Pretty sad state of affairs that both big upcoming titles flaunting a three faction system shy away from open world pvp, without even catering for those who love it with a specific ruleset so those that abhor it can still have their merry way on pve servers.
LOL like GW2 then LOL. I cant stop laughing LOL.
Huh brah, ever actually read things before you psot nonsense or what? Ever hear of this feature in GW2 called WvWvW? Pretty sure GW2 will be the next greatest PvP game, because their PvP isnt an after thought like it is in SWToR.
And if you think just becasue GW2 doesnt have traditional 'gank' fest PvP then let me point you to some thing called DAoC which actually has the exact same PvP as GW2, and I am pretty sure if you took a pole on any MMO and asked which MMO was the best for PvP, you'd get DAoC as the overwhelming favorite.
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Sure but it's not so simple to just write off a game for any personal future interest like that.
"Oh, it can has no world pvp? Very well, I'll be on my way then." *Trots off humming merry tune*
That isn't the way it works for me.
There shall be bitching and moaning about hefty decisions that impact my personal preferences so much. Same with their box + sub + cashshop business model which I find disgraceful.
... Twice now they have invoked the Pony's wrath! *stomps hoof*
I understand the disappointment you're feeling over this, I feel it as well. TSW was definitely on my radar, it still will be for the stories and such. I just won't be looking to make it a long term home.
While I agree that it probably is best to fit in as many demographics as possible, that doesn't mean all features will work from game to game. If there's a story reason for no open world FFA PVP or faction PVP like that, it makes sense that it's not there IMO.
Agreed. But the really awkward bit about that is that all the story we've had so far as well as their hyping people up with that "Which faction will you choose?" campaign, is actually suggesting that those factions could actually drink eachother's blood ... rather than hold eachother's hands in the open world.
*brace for rethorical question*
Is all that just marketing fluff then?
Probably this is funcom haha, so we can assume they're trying to sell something that isn't exactly representative of the reality. Before anyone jumps on me, I've never donned a fail/com avatar. I've been a fan of their games, I just realize their marketing isn't always exactly honest.
I just hope the PVP that is there (zones) is intense and not just PVP in a can.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Confirms my suspicions that the game's intended target groups are the more fashion and social life conscious amongst us who indeed would spend a little cash in a clothing store occasionaly to endulge themselves in toying with their character's looks.
Like GW2 then, where everyone in the open world will be your buddy. V_V
Pretty sad state of affairs that both big upcoming titles flaunting a three faction system shy away from open world pvp, without even catering for those who love it with a specific ruleset so those that abhor it can still have their merry way on pve servers.
LOL like GW2 then LOL. I cant stop laughing LOL.
Huh brah, ever actually read things before you psot nonsense or what? Ever hear of this feature in GW2 called WvWvW? Pretty sure GW2 will be the next greatest PvP game, because their PvP isnt an after thought like it is in SWToR.
And if you think just becasue GW2 doesnt have traditional 'gank' fest PvP then let me point you to some thing called DAoC which actually has the exact same PvP as GW2, and I am pretty sure if you took a pole on any MMO and asked which MMO was the best for PvP, you'd get DAoC as the overwhelming favorite.
WvWvW is not the same as open world pvp. It's essentially a large battleground which lasts for two weeks each match.
Out .... in .... the .... open .... game .... world .... there ... will ... be ... no ... pvp. Hence, the similarity between GW2 and TSW: three factions, no open world pvp.
Huh brah, ever actually read things before you psot nonsense or what? Ever hear of this feature in GW2 called WvWvW? Pretty sure GW2 will be the next greatest PvP game, because their PvP isnt an after thought like it is in SWToR.
Wait what?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
This is disappointing news that the only PvP in TSW will be instanced battlegrounds. Shame there will be no RvR since there will be 3 factions. This is actually a big turn-off for me as I was really looking forward to TSW with it's modern horror setting, skill system, and 3 different factions.
Confirms my suspicions that the game's intended target groups are the more fashion and social life conscious amongst us who indeed would spend a little cash in a clothing store occasionaly to endulge themselves in toying with their character's looks.
Like GW2 then, where everyone in the open world will be your buddy. V_V
Pretty sad state of affairs that both big upcoming titles flaunting a three faction system shy away from open world pvp, without even catering for those who love it with a specific ruleset so those that abhor it can still have their merry way on pve servers.
LOL like GW2 then LOL. I cant stop laughing LOL.
Huh brah, ever actually read things before you psot nonsense or what? Ever hear of this feature in GW2 called WvWvW? Pretty sure GW2 will be the next greatest PvP game, because their PvP isnt an after thought like it is in SWToR.
And if you think just becasue GW2 doesnt have traditional 'gank' fest PvP then let me point you to some thing called DAoC which actually has the exact same PvP as GW2, and I am pretty sure if you took a pole on any MMO and asked which MMO was the best for PvP, you'd get DAoC as the overwhelming favorite.
I wish GW2 fans would quit saying GW2 WvWvW is the EXACT same thing as DAOC. The only thing similar is there are three sides, and then that is not even the same. DAOC had 3 distinct sides, not 1, photocopy and photocopy. DAOC had fully persistent battlefields that did not reset. Also, the argument of 2 sides teaming up to take down 1 side isnt valid either. You only have two weeks to form an alliance, and then there is only 1 winner after the two week time limit, so if the two sides help to overthrow the stonger, who gets the win. I think it will just be a free for all.
Confirms my suspicions that the game's intended target groups are the more fashion and social life conscious amongst us who indeed would spend a little cash in a clothing store occasionaly to endulge themselves in toying with their character's looks.
Like GW2 then, where everyone in the open world will be your buddy. V_V
Pretty sad state of affairs that both big upcoming titles flaunting a three faction system shy away from open world pvp, without even catering for those who love it with a specific ruleset so those that abhor it can still have their merry way on pve servers.
LOL like GW2 then LOL. I cant stop laughing LOL.
Huh brah, ever actually read things before you psot nonsense or what? Ever hear of this feature in GW2 called WvWvW? Pretty sure GW2 will be the next greatest PvP game, because their PvP isnt an after thought like it is in SWToR.
And if you think just becasue GW2 doesnt have traditional 'gank' fest PvP then let me point you to some thing called DAoC which actually has the exact same PvP as GW2, and I am pretty sure if you took a pole on any MMO and asked which MMO was the best for PvP, you'd get DAoC as the overwhelming favorite.
WvWvW is not the same as open world pvp. It's essentially a large battleground which lasts for two weeks each match.
Out .... in .... the .... open .... game .... world .... there ... will ... be ... no ... pvp. Hence, the similarity between GW2 and TSW: three factions, no open world pvp.
You may want to stop laughing now.
Ohh I get it you mean open world PvP like in WoW or Rift or any other themepark MMO? The one that like less then 1% of the population revels in? The Open World PvP that has no bearing on the outcome of any thing pertinent to whats going on with a faction system.? The same Open world PvP that rewards ganking lowbies and punishes players who are jsut trying to play the game?
Open world PvP does not, has never, and will not work in any game what so ever, on the other hand FFA PvP can and does but it is a Niche market at best.
I am not advocating the removal of PvP, I am advocating the removal of soemthing that doesnt work and soemthing that so few partake of that is in consenquential to anything a developer is trying to do. AGAIN I ask, take a poll of what is the best PvP game EVAR? DAoC will overwhelmingly be the frontrunner, and yet that game had ZERO world PvP. RvR or Frontier PvP, or what ever you want to cal lit is the best and ONLY way to highlight PvP as a core ruleselt for the majority, so why spoil the rest of your game with archaic and idiotic nonsense that such a small percentage of the playerbase want to partake in?
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Originally posted by Distopia Originally posted by Struggs
Originally posted by afhn2110 I know a lot of pvpers that were really looking forward to pvp with this game, me being one. I had the chance to speak with Ragnar 1 on 1, and found that he's a great guy with a vision. The sad thing is, to those pvpers that are looking for open world pvp....your not in his vision. I asked about the fact that we have three factions, so I'm assuming that means we can fight in open world when crossing factions. The response was, "good question, while the three factions don't like one another, they understand that they need to work together to defeat the forces (npcs) and therefor there is governing body that sets rules amongst the three factions." He went on to say that there will be battlegrounds type of pvp, but absolutely no world pvp when I spoked to him after the panel. I even asked about the opportunity for a pvp server where the factions could fight one another and he said it wouldn't even be considored because it doesn't fit the game. He did say that if the communty demanded clan war deccing on the forums, then he'd considor that.
So, while a great guy...and probably a great pve game based on what I saw, if you are looking for the open world pvp, whether it be faction based on ffa, its not here. This was such a heartbreaker for me...
That pretty much about killed all my interest in the game. Just to clarify there will be open PVP play-fields similar to GW2.
This is not open, I have to go to a designated area to do this or instance into it. I was informed after signing up on the forums and choosing a side that these were waring factions, infact the dragon specifically state that they set ripples in the state of things through small violent acts, yet I can't go shoot up templar or illuminati member whenever I want? I'm sorry my hope when this game came out was the open world pvp with their skills system, I am not huge on PVE.
Originally posted by Zylaxx Originally posted by DarkPony
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Originally posted by DarkPony
Gah .. Confirms my suspicions that the game's intended target groups are the more fashion and social life conscious amongst us who indeed would spend a little cash in a clothing store occasionaly to endulge themselves in toying with their character's looks. Like GW2 then, where everyone in the open world will be your buddy. V_V Pretty sad state of affairs that both big upcoming titles flaunting a three faction system shy away from open world pvp, without even catering for those who love it with a specific ruleset so those that abhor it can still have their merry way on pve servers.
LOL like GW2 then LOL. I cant stop laughing LOL. Huh brah, ever actually read things before you psot nonsense or what? Ever hear of this feature in GW2 called WvWvW? Pretty sure GW2 will be the next greatest PvP game, because their PvP isnt an after thought like it is in SWToR. And if you think just becasue GW2 doesnt have traditional 'gank' fest PvP then let me point you to some thing called DAoC which actually has the exact same PvP as GW2, and I am pretty sure if you took a pole on any MMO and asked which MMO was the best for PvP, you'd get DAoC as the overwhelming favorite. WvWvW is not the same as open world pvp. It's essentially a large battleground which lasts for two weeks each match. Out .... in .... the .... open .... game .... world .... there ... will ... be ... no ... pvp. Hence, the similarity between GW2 and TSW: three factions, no open world pvp. You may want to stop laughing now. Ohh I get it you mean open world PvP like in WoW or Rift or any other themepark MMO? The one that like less then 1% of the population revels in? The Open World PvP that has no bearing on the outcome of any thing pertinent to whats going on with a faction system.? The same Open world PvP that rewards ganking lowbies and punishes players who are jsut trying to play the game?
Open world PvP does not, has never, and will not work in any game what so ever, on the other hand FFA PvP can and does but it is a Niche market at best.
I am not advocating the removal of PvP, I am advocating the removal of soemthing that doesnt work and soemthing that so few partake of that is in consenquential to anything a developer is trying to do. AGAIN I ask, take a poll of what is the best PvP game EVAR? DAoC will overwhelmingly be the frontrunner, and yet that game had ZERO world PvP. RvR or Frontier PvP, or what ever you want to cal lit is the best and ONLY way to highlight PvP as a core ruleselt for the majority, so why spoil the rest of your game with archaic and idiotic nonsense that such a small percentage of the playerbase want to partake in?
Isn't your first paragraph why they invented pve/pvp servers?
I even asked about the opportunity for a pvp server where the factions could fight one another and he said it wouldn't even be considored because it doesn't fit the game.
Whatever your stance on PvP is, I respect developers who don't cave in but stick to their vision.
I even asked about the opportunity for a pvp server where the factions could fight one another and he said it wouldn't even be considored because it doesn't fit the game.
Whatever your stance on PvP is, I respect developers who don't cave in but stick to their vision.
Agree.
Besides World PvP is stupid and the people who do it are even more stupid IMO, its not even playing the game the way its meant to be played. With that being said I think TSW can be a great PvP game now that they got rid of the stupid idea of ganking, becasue lets face it that is what 99% of what World PvP is about.
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I could be wrong here but as in my previous post World PVP to me relates to zonal PVP as in certain areas are designated for PVP only,ie Stone Henge,El Dorado are designed for that purpose i would expect u join a lobby of some sort to access the areas?,and these areas constitute world PVP.
In the secret war there seems to be a 4th enemy that unites the factions in the Secret World environs so they fight together against a common enemy so traditional PVP would not work as far as i understand it.
They aren't denying anyone any fun. They just aren't making the type of game that you are looking for.
Sure but it's not so simple to just write off a game for any personal future interest like that.
"Oh, it can has no world pvp? Very well, I'll be on my way then." *Trots off humming merry tune*
That isn't the way it works for me.
There shall be bitching and moaning about hefty decisions that impact my personal preferences so much. Same with their box + sub + cashshop business model which I find disgraceful.
... Twice now they have invoked the Pony's wrath! *stomps hoof*
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And your proof to justify such a statement? It's quite funny, because there's an aweful lot of people who want open world PvP between three factions. Whether it's dead (no one is doing it) or not, the players obviously want it.
Don't bother providing proof, we know you don't have it.
Yes, by denying me my fun. Is it so hard to place yourself in someone else's shoes?
If they would have announced: World PVP servers only, I personally would have understood people protesting about that very well.
In my eyes, mmorpg's not catering for both kind of playstyles are doing it wrong and are bound to invoke the wrath of those who feel left out. Which makes my stance on this very predictable and reasonable, really.
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Well, in the video it does discuss Stone Henge and such, but it also discusses
"Open Type Areas In Which 100s (or up to 100) people battle it out."
Personally I viewed this as "world" pvp, as it is not instanced, (you don't have to que for it). I may have mis-heard, as I only watched the video once, but it seemed to me that there was some kind of World pvp in this game?
If I am wrong, feel free to let me know.
I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.
Guess i can strike TSW off my list. I've never really been one for raiding once at max level and without world PvP it doesn't sound like the game would have any reason for me to continue playing. 3 factions, what a missed opportunity.
So just like SW:TOR, TSW will also be a CORPG, falsely labeled as a massively-multiplayer online game, unless ones definition of MMO is 100's of players cooperating and competing in text-writing/chatting within a general chat-box simultaneoulsy.
Fine with me I was not interested in world PvP anyway.
I understand the disappointment you're feeling over this, I feel it as well. TSW was definitely on my radar, it still will be for the stories and such. I just won't be looking to make it a long term home.
While I agree that it probably is best to fit in as many demographics as possible, that doesn't mean all features will work from game to game. If there's a story reason for no open world FFA PVP or faction PVP like that, it makes sense that it's not there IMO.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Shows you know very little about Swtor.
Which will in fact offer pvp servers with open world pvp as well as objective based world pvp with territorial control on all kinds of servers. (and also a means to get your pvp gear just through world pvp if you dislike instanced pvp).
TSW is much more shaping up like GW2: Three factions yet no pvp in the open game world, to name two smashing similarities.
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That pretty much about killed all my interest in the game.
Just to clarify there will be open PVP play-fields similar to GW2.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Agreed. But the really awkward bit about that is that all the story we've had so far as well as their hyping people up with that "Which faction will you choose?" campaign, is actually suggesting that those factions could actually drink eachother's blood ... rather than hold eachother's hands in the open world.
*brace for rethorical question*
Is all that just marketing fluff then?
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LOL like GW2 then LOL. I cant stop laughing LOL.
Huh brah, ever actually read things before you psot nonsense or what? Ever hear of this feature in GW2 called WvWvW? Pretty sure GW2 will be the next greatest PvP game, because their PvP isnt an after thought like it is in SWToR.
And if you think just becasue GW2 doesnt have traditional 'gank' fest PvP then let me point you to some thing called DAoC which actually has the exact same PvP as GW2, and I am pretty sure if you took a pole on any MMO and asked which MMO was the best for PvP, you'd get DAoC as the overwhelming favorite.
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Probably this is funcom haha, so we can assume they're trying to sell something that isn't exactly representative of the reality. Before anyone jumps on me, I've never donned a fail/com avatar. I've been a fan of their games, I just realize their marketing isn't always exactly honest.
I just hope the PVP that is there (zones) is intense and not just PVP in a can.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
WvWvW is not the same as open world pvp. It's essentially a large battleground which lasts for two weeks each match.
Out .... in .... the .... open .... game .... world .... there ... will ... be ... no ... pvp. Hence, the similarity between GW2 and TSW: three factions, no open world pvp.
You may want to stop laughing now.
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Wait what?
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This is disappointing news that the only PvP in TSW will be instanced battlegrounds. Shame there will be no RvR since there will be 3 factions. This is actually a big turn-off for me as I was really looking forward to TSW with it's modern horror setting, skill system, and 3 different factions.
I wish GW2 fans would quit saying GW2 WvWvW is the EXACT same thing as DAOC. The only thing similar is there are three sides, and then that is not even the same. DAOC had 3 distinct sides, not 1, photocopy and photocopy. DAOC had fully persistent battlefields that did not reset. Also, the argument of 2 sides teaming up to take down 1 side isnt valid either. You only have two weeks to form an alliance, and then there is only 1 winner after the two week time limit, so if the two sides help to overthrow the stonger, who gets the win. I think it will just be a free for all.
Ohh I get it you mean open world PvP like in WoW or Rift or any other themepark MMO? The one that like less then 1% of the population revels in? The Open World PvP that has no bearing on the outcome of any thing pertinent to whats going on with a faction system.? The same Open world PvP that rewards ganking lowbies and punishes players who are jsut trying to play the game?
Open world PvP does not, has never, and will not work in any game what so ever, on the other hand FFA PvP can and does but it is a Niche market at best.
I am not advocating the removal of PvP, I am advocating the removal of soemthing that doesnt work and soemthing that so few partake of that is in consenquential to anything a developer is trying to do. AGAIN I ask, take a poll of what is the best PvP game EVAR? DAoC will overwhelmingly be the frontrunner, and yet that game had ZERO world PvP. RvR or Frontier PvP, or what ever you want to cal lit is the best and ONLY way to highlight PvP as a core ruleselt for the majority, so why spoil the rest of your game with archaic and idiotic nonsense that such a small percentage of the playerbase want to partake in?
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That pretty much about killed all my interest in the game.
Just to clarify there will be open PVP play-fields similar to GW2.
This is not open, I have to go to a designated area to do this or instance into it. I was informed after signing up on the forums and choosing a side that these were waring factions, infact the dragon specifically state that they set ripples in the state of things through small violent acts, yet I can't go shoot up templar or illuminati member whenever I want? I'm sorry my hope when this game came out was the open world pvp with their skills system, I am not huge on PVE.
Huh brah, ever actually read things before you psot nonsense or what? Ever hear of this feature in GW2 called WvWvW? Pretty sure GW2 will be the next greatest PvP game, because their PvP isnt an after thought like it is in SWToR.
And if you think just becasue GW2 doesnt have traditional 'gank' fest PvP then let me point you to some thing called DAoC which actually has the exact same PvP as GW2, and I am pretty sure if you took a pole on any MMO and asked which MMO was the best for PvP, you'd get DAoC as the overwhelming favorite.
WvWvW is not the same as open world pvp. It's essentially a large battleground which lasts for two weeks each match.
Out .... in .... the .... open .... game .... world .... there ... will ... be ... no ... pvp. Hence, the similarity between GW2 and TSW: three factions, no open world pvp.
You may want to stop laughing now.
Ohh I get it you mean open world PvP like in WoW or Rift or any other themepark MMO? The one that like less then 1% of the population revels in? The Open World PvP that has no bearing on the outcome of any thing pertinent to whats going on with a faction system.? The same Open world PvP that rewards ganking lowbies and punishes players who are jsut trying to play the game?
Open world PvP does not, has never, and will not work in any game what so ever, on the other hand FFA PvP can and does but it is a Niche market at best.
I am not advocating the removal of PvP, I am advocating the removal of soemthing that doesnt work and soemthing that so few partake of that is in consenquential to anything a developer is trying to do. AGAIN I ask, take a poll of what is the best PvP game EVAR? DAoC will overwhelmingly be the frontrunner, and yet that game had ZERO world PvP. RvR or Frontier PvP, or what ever you want to cal lit is the best and ONLY way to highlight PvP as a core ruleselt for the majority, so why spoil the rest of your game with archaic and idiotic nonsense that such a small percentage of the playerbase want to partake in?
Isn't your first paragraph why they invented pve/pvp servers?
Whatever your stance on PvP is, I respect developers who don't cave in but stick to their vision.
Agree.
Besides World PvP is stupid and the people who do it are even more stupid IMO, its not even playing the game the way its meant to be played. With that being said I think TSW can be a great PvP game now that they got rid of the stupid idea of ganking, becasue lets face it that is what 99% of what World PvP is about.
Everything you need to know about Elder Scrolls Online
Playing: GW2
Waiting on: TESO
Next Flop: Planetside 2
Best MMO of all time: Asheron's Call - The first company to recreate AC will be the next greatest MMO.