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Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market

Blizzard president Michael Mohaime who they call Maike Mo Han, did an interview for the Chinese Blizzard site blizzcn.com which was titled:

Interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market



Some quotes from swell Maike Mo Han:



Yesterday I received some feedback of Chinese gamers, they said the game will feel very excited about the introduction of Panda.



I also think it makes the game more popular in the Chinese market.



We also have their own in the Shanghai office, the culture of review for sensitive issues can be resolved faster and better.

 

The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

1) go to translate.google.com

2) set from chinese and to english

3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

 

Now the problem is an xpac full of chinese architecture, the national animal of china, and designed just for the chinese market and they expect Americans and Europeans to pay for it. Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

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  • JaggaSpikesJaggaSpikes Member UncommonPosts: 430

    chinese expansion? i thought everyone gets to play it? and isn't wow in china actually behind rest of the world in content, because it has to be approved by the committee?

  • SupersoupsSupersoups Member Posts: 1,004

    Originally posted by GameOvr

    Blizzard president Michael Mohaime who they call Maike Mo Han, did an interview for the Chinese Blizzard site blizzcn.com which was titled:

    Interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market



    Some quotes from swell Maike Mo Han:



    Yesterday I received some feedback of Chinese gamers, they said the game will feel very excited about the introduction of Panda.



    I also think it makes the game more popular in the Chinese market.



    We also have their own in the Shanghai office, the culture of review for sensitive issues can be resolved faster and better.

     

    The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

    1) go to translate.google.com

    2) set from chinese and to english

    3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

    on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

     

    Now the problem is an xpac full of chinese architecture, the national animal of china, and designed just for the chinese market and they expect Americans and Europeans to pay for it. Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

     WOW is not the first MMO with asian theme. By your logic we shouldn't pay or play Aion or Tera, FFXI or any other Asian title?

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  • OkhamsRazorOkhamsRazor Member Posts: 1,047

    Originally posted by Supersoups

    Originally posted by GameOvr

    Blizzard president Michael Mohaime who they call Maike Mo Han, did an interview for the Chinese Blizzard site blizzcn.com which was titled:

    Interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market



    Some quotes from swell Maike Mo Han:



    Yesterday I received some feedback of Chinese gamers, they said the game will feel very excited about the introduction of Panda.



    I also think it makes the game more popular in the Chinese market.



    We also have their own in the Shanghai office, the culture of review for sensitive issues can be resolved faster and better.

     

    The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

    1) go to translate.google.com

    2) set from chinese and to english

    3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

    on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

     

    Now the problem is an xpac full of chinese architecture, the national animal of china, and designed just for the chinese market and they expect Americans and Europeans to pay for it. Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

     WOW is not the first MMO with asian theme. By your logic we shouldn't pay or play Aion or Tera, FFXI or any other Asian title?

    I think its obvious answer is the difference is that Aion,Tera FFX1 are developed in the Asian market for the Asian market . WoW was developed primarily for a western market but the MoP expansion is aimed at a market that brings in Blizzard 10 percent of its income . I love how WoW fans are trying to find someway to defend this expansion and are failing miserably . Your games on the slide guys accept it and enjoy your game but in the comeing years expect WoW to decline in its influence , importance and populalrity to the mmo genre .

  • goblagobla Member UncommonPosts: 1,412

    Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

    I think its obvious answer is the difference is that Aion,Tera FFX1 are developed in the Asian market for the Asian market . WoW was developed primarily for a western market but the MoP expansion is aimed at a market that brings in Blizzard 10 percent of its income . I love how WoW fans are trying to find someway to defend this expansion and are failing miserably . Your games on the slide guys accept it and enjoy your game but in the comeing years expect WoW to decline in its influence , importance and populalrity to the mmo genre .

    Because that 90% mentioned in the OP was totally a real statistic!

    It wasn't made up on the spot at all! I mean who would do such a thing? It's like a total fact that 99% of all statistics you see on these forums are totally real and legit.

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  • prayerlessprayerless Member UncommonPosts: 21

    blizzard expects a better reception of a cash shop in the east as it loses subs in the west

  • MMOSareDEADMMOSareDEAD Member Posts: 47

    WotLK did the same thing with Scandinavia...I didn't see anyone complain about it.

  • EzhaeEzhae Member UncommonPosts: 735

    Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

    Originally posted by Supersoups


    Originally posted by GameOvr

    Blizzard president Michael Mohaime who they call Maike Mo Han, did an interview for the Chinese Blizzard site blizzcn.com which was titled:

    Interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market



    Some quotes from swell Maike Mo Han:



    Yesterday I received some feedback of Chinese gamers, they said the game will feel very excited about the introduction of Panda.



    I also think it makes the game more popular in the Chinese market.



    We also have their own in the Shanghai office, the culture of review for sensitive issues can be resolved faster and better.

     

    The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

    1) go to translate.google.com

    2) set from chinese and to english

    3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

    on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

     

    Now the problem is an xpac full of chinese architecture, the national animal of china, and designed just for the chinese market and they expect Americans and Europeans to pay for it. Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

     WOW is not the first MMO with asian theme. By your logic we shouldn't pay or play Aion or Tera, FFXI or any other Asian title?

    I think its obvious answer is the difference is that Aion,Tera FFX1 are developed in the Asian market for the Asian market . WoW was developed primarily for a western market but the MoP expansion is aimed at a market that brings in Blizzard 10 percent of its income . I love how WoW fans are trying to find someway to defend this expansion and are failing miserably . Your games on the slide guys accept it and enjoy your game but in the comeing years expect WoW to decline in its influence , importance and populalrity to the mmo genre .

    Yeah.. 10%. Let's see. Cosndiering the price point in OP is right and it's infact 6 cents / hour it would take 8 hours a day of playtime to reach subscription price as in US. Plenty of people there play for way more than 8 hours a day on average. Another thing is, the fact that Chineese servers are not operated by Blizzard but a Chineese company so Blizzard doesn't pay for those servers. Next thing is the fact that there is way more people there playing the game than in NA/EU regions. 

    It would much more closer to accurate to say NA makes about 25-30% EU makes about 15-20% and rest is Asian market. 

  • SupersoupsSupersoups Member Posts: 1,004

    Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

    Originally posted by Supersoups


    Originally posted by GameOvr

    Blizzard president Michael Mohaime who they call Maike Mo Han, did an interview for the Chinese Blizzard site blizzcn.com which was titled:

    Interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market



    Some quotes from swell Maike Mo Han:



    Yesterday I received some feedback of Chinese gamers, they said the game will feel very excited about the introduction of Panda.



    I also think it makes the game more popular in the Chinese market.



    We also have their own in the Shanghai office, the culture of review for sensitive issues can be resolved faster and better.

     

    The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

    1) go to translate.google.com

    2) set from chinese and to english

    3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

    on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

     

    Now the problem is an xpac full of chinese architecture, the national animal of china, and designed just for the chinese market and they expect Americans and Europeans to pay for it. Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

     WOW is not the first MMO with asian theme. By your logic we shouldn't pay or play Aion or Tera, FFXI or any other Asian title?

    I think its obvious answer is the difference is that Aion,Tera FFX1 are developed in the Asian market for the Asian market . WoW was developed primarily for a western market but the MoP expansion is aimed at a market that brings in Blizzard 10 percent of its income . I love how WoW fans are trying to find someway to defend this expansion and are failing miserably . Your games on the slide guys accept it and enjoy your game but in the comeing years expect WoW to decline in its influence , importance and populalrity to the mmo genre .

    Aion and tera were made for Asian market and yet they went under extensive changes to appeal to Western market. Asia is a huge market for online gaming bigger than US and EU combined. I don't see why you find that Blizzard owes any kind of explanation to you or anyone else. They are running a business and they will sell their product where ever they see market for it.

    So i ask again it is ok for Asian titles to try and appeal to western market but when Blizzard does it, you are against it. Why double standards?

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  • deniterdeniter Member RarePosts: 1,438

    Originally posted by Ezhae

    Originally posted by OkhamsRazor


    Originally posted by Supersoups


    Originally posted by GameOvr

    Blizzard president Michael Mohaime who they call Maike Mo Han, did an interview for the Chinese Blizzard site blizzcn.com which was titled:

    Interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market



    Some quotes from swell Maike Mo Han:



    Yesterday I received some feedback of Chinese gamers, they said the game will feel very excited about the introduction of Panda.



    I also think it makes the game more popular in the Chinese market.



    We also have their own in the Shanghai office, the culture of review for sensitive issues can be resolved faster and better.

     

    The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

    1) go to translate.google.com

    2) set from chinese and to english

    3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

    on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

     

    Now the problem is an xpac full of chinese architecture, the national animal of china, and designed just for the chinese market and they expect Americans and Europeans to pay for it. Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

     WOW is not the first MMO with asian theme. By your logic we shouldn't pay or play Aion or Tera, FFXI or any other Asian title?

    I think its obvious answer is the difference is that Aion,Tera FFX1 are developed in the Asian market for the Asian market . WoW was developed primarily for a western market but the MoP expansion is aimed at a market that brings in Blizzard 10 percent of its income . I love how WoW fans are trying to find someway to defend this expansion and are failing miserably . Your games on the slide guys accept it and enjoy your game but in the comeing years expect WoW to decline in its influence , importance and populalrity to the mmo genre .

    Yeah.. 10%. Let's see. Cosndiering the price point in OP is right and it's infact 6 cents / hour it would take 8 hours a day of playtime to reach subscription price as in US. Plenty of people there play for way more than 8 hours a day on average. Another thing is, the fact that Chineese servers are not operated by Blizzard but a Chineese company so Blizzard doesn't pay for those servers. Next thing is the fact that there is way more people there playing the game than in NA/EU regions. 

    It would much more closer to accurate to say NA makes about 25-30% EU makes about 15-20% and rest is Asian market. 

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/193148-blizzard-s-world-of-warcraft-the-china-growth-story

    According to this article 90% / 10% seems pretty accurate.

  • nyxiumnyxium Member UncommonPosts: 1,345

    Possibly the Chinese WoTLK expansion might be blotted out of the Chinese WoW due to the problems it caused, which means they get BC, Cata and Panda.

    How they would level up from 70 to 80 is anyones guess. But it would seem Panda is Blizzard's solution to their 'Chinese authorities problem.'

  • Joshua69Joshua69 Member UncommonPosts: 953

    im still excited for pandas

     

  • GameOvrGameOvr Member Posts: 55

    I don't pay five times as much to play WoW as a chinese player does just so Maike Mo Han can make "the game more popular in the Chinese market"

     

    I have seen blizzard try to cram e-sport pvp down players throats, pander to elite gamers to the point where people with disabilities in my guild can't raid anymore because the price for not having lightning reflexes is a wipe.

    Sinestra was tuned specifically for Paragon guild, they have a vid to prove it, only 1.8% of players downed Sinestra, you other 98.2% paid for it and got nothing for your money.

    I have played for six and a half years, been a GM, and a old school PvP Field Marshal but NO MORE. They are not going to cram this crap down my throat.

  • EzhaeEzhae Member UncommonPosts: 735

    Originally posted by deniter

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/193148-blizzard-s-world-of-warcraft-the-china-growth-story

    According to this article 90% / 10% seems pretty accurate.

    Because random article on the net is very accurate estimate? I mean the guy there assumes the playtime in China is 10-20 hours / month which is pretty laughable estimate. 

     

     


    Originally posted by GameOvr

    Sinestra was tuned specifically for Paragon guild, they have a vid to prove it, only 1.8% of players downed Sinestra, you other 98.2% paid for it and got nothing for your money.

    That's because only 1.8% of players can be even bothered to attempt heroic raids. Guilds just don't care about those since they are pretty much same as normal mode and get repetetive very fast. 

  • GameOvrGameOvr Member Posts: 55

    Originally posted by Ezhae

    Originally posted by deniter

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/193148-blizzard-s-world-of-warcraft-the-china-growth-story

    According to this article 90% / 10% seems pretty accurate.

    Because random article on the net is very accurate estimate? I mean the guy there assumes the playtime in China is 10-20 hours / month which is pretty laughable estimate. 

     

     Chinese players pay 6 cents an hour. They all would have to play 8.3 hours a day, every day to spend as much  as we have to pay.

     

  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916

    WoW is the first MMO to ever implement an Asian theme. It's the first MMO ever to introduce an Asian themed expansion. No one has ever done this before. Right? Let's see

    Aion - asian theme right from the start

    Terra - asian theme right from the start

    Guild Wars - an Asian theme expansion?!!! OMG, they are trying to appeal to the Chinese market. OMFGZORZ.

    Everquest - Introduced pandas in the game!!!!!!! OMFG!!!! Call the panda hate squad now!

    Age of Conan - Asian themed expansion!! Amagad!!

    I can't be bothered to come up with other examples but I am pretty sure there's a lot more MMOs with Asian themes in them.

     

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  • pharazonicpharazonic Member Posts: 860

    Originally posted by MMOSareDEAD

    WotLK did the same thing with Scandinavia...I didn't see anyone complain about it.

    Pretty much. 

    The outrage against MoP and similarly,  the derision Asian MMOs face in the MMO community, is nothing else but good ol' fashion prejudice and xenophobia rearing its ugly head in our supposed multicultural society. 

     

    Disgusting. 

    "Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."

    I need to take this advice more.

  • MMOSareDEADMMOSareDEAD Member Posts: 47

    This has most probably been said a million times but in a game that has playable cows, I don't see why having playable vegetarian bears would raise such a ruckus.

    Also it's completely normal for Blizz to target the chinese at this point. Half their customers are there and SWTOR is around the corner, threatening to steal their remaining western customers (SW isn't big in China).

  • Grand_NagusGrand_Nagus Member UncommonPosts: 335

    Originally posted by GameOvr

    The site is in Chinese but you can see for yourself

    1) go to translate.google.com

    2) set from chinese and to english

    3) enter blizzcn.com in? text box

    on left bottom search for "interview with Blizzard CEO Mike: We have a panda for the Chinese market"?

    Or, just post the link to the article and people who already have google chrome will get to auto-translate it in their browser.

  • GameOvrGameOvr Member Posts: 55

    Originally posted by pharazonic

    Originally posted by MMOSareDEAD

    WotLK did the same thing with Scandinavia...I didn't see anyone complain about it.

    Pretty much. 

    The outrage against MoP and similarly,  the derision Asian MMOs face in the MMO community, is nothing else but good ol' fashion prejudice and xenophobia rearing its ugly head in our supposed multicultural society. 

     

    Disgusting. 

    Well let's see what's wrong with your argument.

     

    Wrath didn't add an Elk race and a land called Elklandia and didn't only have scandinavian architecture.

    So it's "pretty much" NOT the same thing.

     

    What disgusting in our "supposed multicultural society" is making the entire playerbase of WoW including North America and European markets who generate 90% of the revenue pay for a monolithic expansion aimed at ONE market.

     

    A market that is so "culturally sensitive" that they have banned games for recognizing Taiwan and Tibet as seperate countries. A Market in a country that executes more citizens than the rest of the world combined and has mobile death vans to do it.

     

    Yep that's swell.

     

  • HoplitesHoplites Member CommonPosts: 463

    Yeah I can't support Blizz if they choose to go this direction. 

  • PangentorPangentor Member Posts: 129

    Originally posted by GameOvr

    Chinese players only pay 6 cents an hour to play WoW, 90% of the income comes from us, including the money to pay for the chinese xpac.

     

    Man, they are getting ripped...I only pay 2 cents an hour ($15 / 30 days = $.50 a day).

  • LariendelLariendel Member Posts: 23

    I want a panda....as a pet though.  I don't want to BE a panda.  I mean they look strangely unnatural for some reason.  Most animals just look natural, panda's look like they got fixed up at the salon or something while we weren't looking.

  • QuesaQuesa Member UncommonPosts: 1,432

    All this crying over a Google translated interview?  You ever use Google to translate other languages and then have someone who natively speaks that language tell you it's not always a direct translation? ..  I have, many times.

    Besides that, they are marketing this internationally, that means they'll put spin on it for every different demographic they are selling to, this, kids, is what grown ups call MARKETING.

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  • pharazonicpharazonic Member Posts: 860

    Originally posted by GameOvr

    Originally posted by pharazonic


    Originally posted by MMOSareDEAD

    WotLK did the same thing with Scandinavia...I didn't see anyone complain about it.

    Pretty much. 

    The outrage against MoP and similarly,  the derision Asian MMOs face in the MMO community, is nothing else but good ol' fashion prejudice and xenophobia rearing its ugly head in our supposed multicultural society. 

     

    Disgusting. 

    Well let's see what's wrong with your argument.

    There is nothing wrong with it. Anyone with an aiota of sense would understand it for what it is. It isn't even an argument; just a very honest statement that most people are uncomfortable acknowledging.

     Wrath didn't add an Elk race and a land called Elklandia and didn't only have scandinavian architecture.

    So it's "pretty much" NOT the same thing.

    By a puerile statement such as this, you reveal your equally puerile, elementary line of thought. Obviously, you're out of your league here. My wiser judgement urges me to abandon any further attempt to reason with you after this. 

     

    What disgusting in our "supposed multicultural society" is making the entire playerbase of WoW including North America and European markets who generate 90% of the revenue pay for a monolithic expansion aimed at ONE market.

    What a base remark.

    What does MoP have that makes it unappealing to the NA/EU market? Hm?

     

     A market that is so "culterally sensitive" that they have banned games for recognizing Taiwan and Tibet as seperate countries. A Market in a country that executes more citizens than the rest of the world combined and has mobile death vans to do it.

     

    This has nothing to do with, well nothing. Clearly you have no understanding of why, or even how Chinese society operates. (No I am not going to link you anything; the material is out there. Do a simple google search or better yet, read some books).

     

    My advice: Go out, get some life experience, and you'll realise that that axe you have there to grind really doesn't exist. Knock that chip off your shoulder; you don't realise how good you have it. I'd say further but this is an MMORPG website and not a place to discuss socio-culture. We're already far out as it is.   

     

    "Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."

    I need to take this advice more.

  • headphonesheadphones Member Posts: 611

    Originally posted by Uhwop

    The blizzard hate is getting beyond the state of sad at this point. 

    Seriously, it's a frigging videogame. 

     

    Here's an experiment. 

    Go to a bar and complain to a girl about Blizzard putting pandas in WoW, and see how she responds.  Seriously, if a woman will look at you like you're a retard for complaining about it, odds are you are.

     

    It's a vieogame, guy.  Let it go. 

     

     

    i don't need to go to a bar to complain to a girl about blizzard putting pandas in wow. i just look up at my wife and complain to her. and she doesn't look at me like i'm a retard for complaining about it. instead, she looks at the same sites and looks at THEM like they're retards for even contemplating putting it into the game to begin with.

    my advice to you: thinking girls don't play mmos is the kind of thinking that belongs back in the 1990s.  let it go.

    (for the record: my wife refuses to play healers and prefers pvp. bucking yet another misconception about female gamers...)

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