Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
This game will do ok, just ok.
evemaster00
Member Posts: 171
I'm a full beta tester, this game offers nothing new. Warzones are a pointless sideshow, as is space combat. This game will not kill WoW, or any other game. I predict that it have a huge number of players from preorders, but will lose a lot of players after the free month is up when people realise it's just the same old mmo we've been geting over and over again for several years. Warhammer, Aion, Rift, i'll stop short at FFXIV, because FFXIV was a broken game and I wouldn't exactly call this game broken, but I do have some major issues with it.
Most of the classes are mirrors of each other. Fair enough that all light/dark side classes are identical mirrors, but it also seems like they just made 2 or 3 base classes and mirrored every class in the game from those 2-3 classes. A sith inquisitor is a bounty hunter, they have the same skills almost 100%, just a few skills are in slightly different flavours, ie their mechanics work slightly differently. Most are identical skills just with different names and graphical effects, mechanically they do the exact same effect., even the tooltip is identical. I think Bioware really cheaped out with this aspect.
The voice acting stuff seems a bit pointless, it takes a long, long time to talk to npcs, forcing me to skip all of it, and in release i'll turn all of that stuff of completely. As if that wasn't bad enough, there's a hell of a lot of running around to be done, between the running from npc A to npc B, you don't really do all that much actual combat. Leveling is quite slow, it will be dreadfully slow if you listen to all the npc dialogue.
This game may well retain true Star Wars fans, that's if Star Wars is your main thing, if not, this is just the same old same old with less features, less classes and a whole lot of money wasted on making voice overs for questing.
Trainable talents (aka wows talent system) are not very great either. Many of them are underwhelming, especially some of the end talents, I would expect for investing all my points into a tree that I could get at least a useful talent at the end of the tree. not some junk that is basically a mirror of an ability that I already have, that shares the same cooldown with that ability and is hardly any better.
Many talents are mirrored too, I noticed that the classes who have healing specs, the healing specs are just mirrors of each other for the most part.
Over half of the bounty hunter and inquisitor skills are identical mirrors, even some talents too, example:
rapid shots is the free non power using skills BH get at level 1. sabre strike is the free non power skill inquis get at level 1, one is ranged one is melee, they do the same thing, but i'll forgive because each class needs something that's free to use at level 1.
overload is an aoe knockback that is identical to the BH jetboost.
electrocute (inquistor single target 4 second stun) identical to BH electro-dart (single target 4 second stun)
Both classes get a 1 minute CD break out of CC skill
Both classes get a 1 minute mezz on a 1 minute CD.
Both classes get a shield ability, the inquisitor one is like powerword shield, it absorbs X amount then is gone. BH shield is a 25% damage reduction for a set amount of time.
Both classes get a 3 second channeled single target damage skill. Force lightning for inquis, unload for BH, both classes have talents that enable this skill to have it's CD either removed or lowered and its damage increased.
Both classes have a 20 minute CD skill that resets the CD on their 4 second single target stun and regens 2% health per 3 seconds for 1 minute.
Both classes get a talent system mechanic that allows them to "proc" their damage skill 30% of the time if they spec for it.
Missile blast is a mirror of Shock, they both CC their target for a moment. The differences are missile blast adds an AE for worthless tiny dmg and has no CD. I'm talking 12 dmg against 1k hp mobs.
Comments
You havn't play the last few builds have you?
You can turn on auto skip for the conversations in the option menu.
I don't care about innovation I care about fun.
My brand new bloggity blog.
the game is made and runs perfectly as intended. and yes i'm a full beta tester... from summer. i've been around from the good and the bad. the devs have actually said and i QUOTE "we dont intend the make a WoW killer, but to learn from them" it's a new MMO and a new frontier for BW. also you APPARENTLY DO NOT LIKE STORY DRIVEN MMOS! so FYI this game probably isnt for you. i see this game as more of a LORE WHORE game.
THE PONY HAS SPOKEN THAT IS ALL! lol
All republic/empire classes are identical mirrors of each other. You wish to contest this fact?
Inquisitor/consular are identical mirrors of each other, sith is empire, consular republic. If you compare bounty hunter with inquisitor, their skills are near identical. They get the same damn skills, they do the exact same things, except 1 or 2 skills, such as the shield ability they both get, which is only different by the amount it aborbs and how often you can use it.
In WoW, a Mage is the same as a Warlock, because they both have ranged damage spells.
See how easy that is?
ok eve man do you really expect two different factions to have TOTALLY different classes.... for that to be a gripe is Ridiculous!
i rest my case with this poster. TOTALLY CORRECT. very very easy. if this is a problem might as well put it in general discussion and yell and scream about EVERY MMO........ close this thread
Inquisitor has the same skills as Bounty Hunter, huh? lolwut? Yeah, the classes on either side are mirrors of each other, as they have to be for balance, but comparing a Bounty Hunter to an Inquisitor is like saying that in WoW a warrior is the same as a deathknight because they both use two-handed weapons.
Ridiculous comparison, and not at all accurate. And I played both classes in my beta weekend and have researched the skills of both classes pretty extensively.
Incase none of you were involved in all the major mmo launches over the last several years, you are deluding yourselves if you think that this game is going to be anything above simply "the next mmo". The game is ok, i said it will do ok, but it's not going to get massive subscribers, massive preorders yes, but a lot are going to quit when they see it's no different than vanilla WoW on launch day.
Good for you man, i guess you failed. I've played both classes to a high level and have extensively planned out builds for each and that's how I noticed that their skills are identical for the most part. Same skills, different names.
To post your opinions is one thing... OK... you don't like story-driven MMO's, and you aren't interested in breaking up the main game with side games. Got it.
But to say that this game will "just do OK" because you assume everybody has the same playstyle and opinions as yours is just... well... short-sighted.
I have no idea if the game is going to do well. I hope it does, because I pre-ordered, and everthing I've read suggests to me that it's my kind of game. Those are my opinions.
i believe you are SADLY mistaken. i would say the star wars fanboys ALONE and the SWG fanboys will be a alrge chunk of subscribers!
WTF!? I completely accept that you personally don't like this game that much, but saying that its just meh, but still claiming you are going to buy it seems downright crazy to me. You realise that by rewarding these guys with your hard earned money for a game you don't see worth much, you are only encouraging companies to continue to create games that you don't really care for.
And if the brunt of people like you who think the game is just meh, are also going to still buy the game, mainly because they can't seem to find anything better to do with their time, its going to do far better than just ok.
Jiminy Cricket on a pogo stick people!! Either stop rewarding companies for what you feel are mediocre games, or if you do reward them, please stop wasting our time complaining about it, because you are a big part of the problem.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
i guess i will say again because eve, i will say you do not understand the balance between two factions in a game. take your thread to general and complain about EVERY MMO out there that has more than ONE! faction. i mean just for a freakin example! in WoW if you are a rogue on alliance or horde YOUR ATTACKS ARE IDENTICAL(in name and everything else). OMFGNAZI! this cannot be! in SWTOR same STUFFFFFFFFF. but they actually took the time to rename them so get over it and play another game i hope i dont run into you ingame. what a mood killer you are
My brand new bloggity blog.
HOLY CRAP! Pony didnt even play the ebta and he's more educated in the game than you are eve. O.o o.O very odd if i do say so myself
So do all beta testers have the ability to foresee the future like you do? Because, in case I missed it, an MMOs ability to retain subscribers is based almost ENTIRELY on the content that the developer pushes out post launch. Most MMOs, if they have a solid foundation and solid gameplay, will be able to keep the majority of their subscribers through their first character's progression to max level. After that, it's up to the developer to keep adding things to the game to keep the subscribers.
So, when did you learn the ability to see the future? To know exactly how much content Bioware will be releasing post launch, and to be able to back up your claim that this game won't have a lot of subscribers after launch? I'd be interested to know. I'm going to Vegas in a couple of weeks and could use some advice on my football bets.
Shadows can stealth, inquisitors cannot, inquisitor is a base class. The inquisitor sorcerer is a mirror the bounty hunter mercenary.
Is this a joke? lol?
Remember Old School Ultima Online
Nope, infact this guy doesn't have a clue about what he's talking about. The shadow advanced class has stealth. Stealth does not come from the inquisitor tree, only the shadow tree. Sorcerer advanced class does not have stealth in it's tree, and is directly mirrored with the bounty hunter mercenary advanced class.
I am 100% correct in saying that inquisitor does not have stealth. The inquistor tree is a baseclass and is trained seperately from the advanced class trees.
You're the ones with the facts wrong.
he just may know soemthing about sports seeing as he knows NOTHING of MMOs.
i have beta tested VERY VERY many games and this game by far is one of my favorite betas. it's way mroe fun and immersive then others. Cataclysm drew me in for a week or two then i was mindlessly playing same old wow different skin.
and just to clarify this guys main gripe is how classes are somewhat identical (if you could even say that) cross faction! BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE
learn what it means then we MIGHT let you post again i your own thread lol
Nope, he didn't confuse them. He actually meant the Bounty Hunter was a mirror of the Inquisitor. Re-read his first two posts.
"when they see it's no different than vanilla WoW on launch day."
This is EXACTLY why some would stay!
You seem to have no idea, or are simply ignoring, how differently people can see the same experience/object/thing.