Btw all the points in your OP have been made about 10,000x before and have already been debated to death long before First Impressions and the drop of the NDA. Raising complaints at this point isn't going to make a lick of difference anyway because the game ships 12/20/11. Not to mention the fact that Bioware has basically made it clear that they're going to make this game however they want regardless of feedback and who they might offend by disregarding it (ex: space on rails, no non-human playable aliens, etc.).
I wholehearledly agree with all the OP points and you.
BioWare, on purpose made a themepark but not any themepark a game on RAILS.
They bet a lot on story thinking they could deliver less on other features and IMHO they made a huge error.
Players want all they already have plus something else/new, not less: like no day/night cycles, poor character customization, lacking UI, no guild banks, no housing, no appearance tabs, no gear dyes, no swimming, no dual specs, no animal based pet classes, no non based pet classes (for single player mode), no PvP arenas, no fishing, no barber/image designer, no non combat based classes, no guild tabar, no multiplayer mounts, no LFG tool, no third party addons, no non humanoid based playable races...
And they want all the above @launch, or at least most of it.
Every themepark MMO is on rails. Hence the term. And what other features did they deliver less on? It has everything you want in a themepark MMO, and storytelling to boot!
The things you mention are hardly NEEDED for an MMO to be fun.
Btw all the points in your OP have been made about 10,000x before and have already been debated to death long before First Impressions and the drop of the NDA. Raising complaints at this point isn't going to make a lick of difference anyway because the game ships 12/20/11. Not to mention the fact that Bioware has basically made it clear that they're going to make this game however they want regardless of feedback and who they might offend by disregarding it (ex: space on rails, no non-human playable aliens, etc.).
I wholehearledly agree with all the OP points and you.
BioWare, on purpose made a themepark but not any themepark a game on RAILS.
They bet a lot on story thinking they could deliver less on other features and IMHO they made a huge error.
Players want all they already have plus something else/new, not less: like no day/night cycles, poor character customization, lacking UI, no guild banks, no housing, no appearance tabs, no gear dyes, no swimming, no dual specs, no animal based pet classes, no non based pet classes (for single player mode), no PvP arenas, no fishing, no barber/image designer, no non combat based classes, no guild tabar, no multiplayer mounts, no LFG tool, no third party addons, no non humanoid based playable races...
And they want all the above @launch, or at least most of it.
with money and time they had to put this game together no reason why they really don't have at least 75% of what you mentioned up there
I enjoy the chance to create constructive feedback for the Devs. This morning as I read through ppl's first impressions of the beta build, I was dissapointed that more people hadnt shared in this desire. I believe such discourse is necessary to better the gaming community. Sometimes criticism and harsh language is required to open eyes. This was one of those cases. Instead of being satisfied with any old thing that is rolled out, more people should shout their desires, and see to it that those grievances have been addressed before comitting any allegiance or loyalty. I am happy to hear that your level of sophistication nullifies the need for such an outlet. Remember that insanity is continuing to do the exact same thing again and again, while expecting different results.
While I share a great part of your critique, and it is explained intelligent and entertaining, I can't share your opitimism in the case of "learning things from critique". Humans never learn from words and rarely from experience.
I am on this website for many years, and with every single MMO I saw the same issues over and over and over. I tried to point at a few, but the learning effect of both gamers and possible dev audience was always exactly zero. I haven't seen a SINGLE TIME in my 5000+ posts that anyone EVER changed his point of view because of anything I had written. And without sounding too arrogant I have severeal reasons to assume my argumentation skills are not the issue. Just for once in those years I would have like to see someone saying "oh, you are righr Elikal, now that you explain it, I see what you mean". Just once for the novelty.
But, be my guest to show me otherwise. Humans learning from explanations and education is a nice idea, young dragon.
You just made me lose all hope in humanity. I hope you're happy.
Ah I am sorry. Really. But sometimes it is better to accept what people are capable of. It saves a lot of grief. For them, and you. They are nice playthings. Like a dog you can love and teach a trick. Progress does come, but usually with pain and because humans have bumped their heads against a wall several times.
But don't listen to me. I am just an old dragon in my cave. Maybe I am wrong. It is honorable to try to better things even if you know you are destined to fail. That too is honor.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Every themepark MMO is on rails. Hence the term. And what other features did they deliver less on? It has everything you want in a themepark MMO, and storytelling to boot!
The things you mention are hardly NEEDED for an MMO to be fun.
not NEEDED but pretty much expected since most FREE mmos have 90% of that stuff already... just feels like a big kick in the face for not adding a lot of that in.
I enjoy the chance to create constructive feedback for the Devs. This morning as I read through ppl's first impressions of the beta build, I was dissapointed that more people hadnt shared in this desire. I believe such discourse is necessary to better the gaming community. Sometimes criticism and harsh language is required to open eyes. This was one of those cases. Instead of being satisfied with any old thing that is rolled out, more people should shout their desires, and see to it that those grievances have been addressed before comitting any allegiance or loyalty. I am happy to hear that your level of sophistication nullifies the need for such an outlet. Remember that insanity is continuing to do the exact same thing again and again, while expecting different results.
While I share a great part of your critique, and it is explained intelligent and entertaining, I can't share your opitimism in the case of "learning things from critique". Humans never learn from words and rarely from experience.
I am on this website for many years, and with every single MMO I saw the same issues over and over and over. I tried to point at a few, but the learning effect of both gamers and possible dev audience was always exactly zero. I haven't seen a SINGLE TIME in my 5000+ posts that anyone EVER changed his point of view because of anything I had written. And without sounding too arrogant I have severeal reasons to assume my argumentation skills are not the issue. Just for once in those years I would have like to see someone saying "oh, you are righr Elikal, now that you explain it, I see what you mean". Just once for the novelty.
But, be my guest to show me otherwise. Humans learning from explanations and education is a nice idea, young dragon.
You just made me lose all hope in humanity. I hope you're happy.
Ah I am sorry. Really. But sometimes it is better to accept what people are capable of. It saves a lot of grief. For them, and you. They are nice playthings. Like a dog you can love and teach a trick. Progress does come, but usually with pain and because humans have bumped their heads against a wall several times.
But don't listen to me. I am just an old dragon in my cave. Maybe I am wrong. It is honorable to try to better things even if you know you are destined to fail. That too is honor.
Seriously though, say what you have to say. Whether people learn from it.....we'll never know. Pride gets in the way of things. So does idiocy. Meh.
Every themepark MMO is on rails. Hence the term. And what other features did they deliver less on? It has everything you want in a themepark MMO, and storytelling to boot!
The things you mention are hardly NEEDED for an MMO to be fun.
not NEEDED but pretty much expected since most FREE mmos have 90% of that stuff already... just feels like a big kick in the face for not adding a lot of that in.
If that's how you feel, I respect it. For me, personally, not so much. There's always "the future" to look for these things. All I need is a solid basis. The fluff will come.
I hope everyone here realizes that if no one thats posted on this forum buys this game bioware will not even notice the diffrence. So foam and froth at the mouth all you want about how much you hate this game or what you think it should be, bioware or EA for that matter will not miss anyones money on this thread.
After many disappointing hours of game play during this weekend's SWTOR Beta, I expected to read a plethora of scathing reviews this morning. I was sadly disappointed.
So you're upset that not everyone hated the game as much as you? That's mature.
I was thinking the same thing. That truly is the statement of a hater. This so-called review just seems to be another attempt at trolling...
You are either new to the forums and you dont know what a troll is or you are so blissfully in love with your new E-Wife, that you are blind to her faults.
The op backed up his opinions with examples. Examples so far that I haven't heard anyone actually challenge other than to call him names.
I am seeing a lot of people posting "large wall of text...did not read" and then spew their comments, lame and quite disappointing. I guess they will have no one to blame but themselves when they realize in a few months how shallow and sterile Tor really is. The Tor community really reminds me of the Rift fans in this regard.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Every themepark MMO is on rails. Hence the term. And what other features did they deliver less on? It has everything you want in a themepark MMO, and storytelling to boot!
The things you mention are hardly NEEDED for an MMO to be fun.
not NEEDED but pretty much expected since most FREE mmos have 90% of that stuff already... just feels like a big kick in the face for not adding a lot of that in.
If that's how you feel, I respect it. For me, personally, not so much. There's always "the future" to look for these things. All I need is a solid basis. The fluff will come.
with 135 million dollars spent I honestly think its sad people just accept this game comes with less features than many free to play MMO's released. Storys are great and all and its a big reason to play but for such a big release this late in the MMO game to not include many features free games come with just seems ridiculous to me.. for "the future" you should expect expanding stories, new races, new classes, ect.. not stuff that should be no brainer stuff upon release
I am seeing a lot of people posting "large wall of text...did not read" and then spew their comments, lame and quite disappointing. I guess they will have no one to blame but themselves when they realize in a few months how shallow and sterile Tor really is. The Tor community really reminds me of the Rift fans in this regard.
Now thats just being rude. People enjoy different games. Excuse us for liking SWTOR, oh great one.
Every themepark MMO is on rails. Hence the term. And what other features did they deliver less on? It has everything you want in a themepark MMO, and storytelling to boot!
The things you mention are hardly NEEDED for an MMO to be fun.
not NEEDED but pretty much expected since most FREE mmos have 90% of that stuff already... just feels like a big kick in the face for not adding a lot of that in.
If that's how you feel, I respect it. For me, personally, not so much. There's always "the future" to look for these things. All I need is a solid basis. The fluff will come.
with 135 million dollars spent I honestly think its sad people just accept this game comes with less features than many free to play MMO's released. Storys are great and all and its a big reason to play but for such a big release this late in the MMO game to not include many features free games come with just seems ridiculous to me.. for "the future" you should expect expanding stories, new races, new classes, ect.. not stuff that should be no brainer stuff upon release
All I can do is disagree for the reasons posted above . Its a personal preference.
I enjoy the chance to create constructive feedback for the Devs. This morning as I read through ppl's first impressions of the beta build, I was dissapointed that more people hadnt shared in this desire. I believe such discourse is necessary to better the gaming community. Sometimes criticism and harsh language is required to open eyes. This was one of those cases. Instead of being satisfied with any old thing that is rolled out, more people should shout their desires, and see to it that those grievances have been addressed before comitting any allegiance or loyalty. I am happy to hear that your level of sophistication nullifies the need for such an outlet. Remember that insanity is continuing to do the exact same thing again and again, while expecting different results.
While I share a great part of your critique, and it is explained intelligent and entertaining, I can't share your opitimism in the case of "learning things from critique". Humans never learn from words and rarely from experience.
I am on this website for many years, and with every single MMO I saw the same issues over and over and over. I tried to point at a few, but the learning effect of both gamers and possible dev audience was always exactly zero. I haven't seen a SINGLE TIME in my 5000+ posts that anyone EVER changed his point of view because of anything I had written. And without sounding too arrogant I have severeal reasons to assume my argumentation skills are not the issue. Just for once in those years I would have like to see someone saying "oh, you are right Elikal, now that you explain it, I see what you mean". Just once for the novelty.
But, be my guest to show me otherwise. Humans learning from explanations and education is a nice idea, young dragon.
Dear Elikal,
I've been working in the video gaming industry in QA for some time and even have my name on RPG titles with story branching systems. As such I can tell you too many lead designers I encountered do think they know better than anyone else what the players needs versus what they think they need. Or when they do want to try to listen they are hindered by clueless suits.
Would you even do focus groups that do proove they are totally wrong and said that feature isn't either great or understood by the players, these would not listen to you.
You know because you're just a "player" they do think you are clueless of what you really need. While some players are indeed ignorant about what it takes to change features in a game, especially a MMO. There are many players: DBA, developers, graphic artists, writers that arent that stupid.
Just remember some not so great sentences from BioWare about how we didn't see Han space mining, or players can't relate to non humanoid species. And you'll get the picture.
BioWare camped on its position and sadly we're all the looser in the end. Them because they delivered a not so great MMO. Sandboxers because this game is the opposite of a sandbox and Themepark players because once the story is done they'll be left with nothing interesting to do in game.
What is even more disappointing is they spent supposedly around 100+ millions on a half baked product. Something like twice if not more the budget of AoC, AioN, Lotro and maybe Rift to end with... V.O. & fair dialogs.
I am seeing a lot of people posting "large wall of text...did not read" and then spew their comments, lame and quite disappointing. I guess they will have no one to blame but themselves when they realize in a few months how shallow and sterile Tor really is. The Tor community really reminds me of the Rift fans in this regard.
Now thats just being rude. People enjoy different games. Excuse us for liking SWTOR, oh great one.
Rude in what way???
The rift community was quite happy campers just before and during launch even when people were pointing obvious problems, yet they choose not to listen to the feed back.....copy/paste tor.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I hope everyone here realizes that if no one thats posted on this forum buys this game bioware will not even notice the diffrence. So foam and froth at the mouth all you want about how much you hate this game or what you think it should be, bioware or EA for that matter will not miss anyones money on this thread.
Every themepark MMO is on rails. Hence the term. And what other features did they deliver less on? It has everything you want in a themepark MMO, and storytelling to boot!
The things you mention are hardly NEEDED for an MMO to be fun.
not NEEDED but pretty much expected since most FREE mmos have 90% of that stuff already... just feels like a big kick in the face for not adding a lot of that in.
If that's how you feel, I respect it. For me, personally, not so much. There's always "the future" to look for these things. All I need is a solid basis. The fluff will come.
with 135 million dollars spent I honestly think its sad people just accept this game comes with less features than many free to play MMO's released. Storys are great and all and its a big reason to play but for such a big release this late in the MMO game to not include many features free games come with just seems ridiculous to me.. for "the future" you should expect expanding stories, new races, new classes, ect.. not stuff that should be no brainer stuff upon release
I've been working in the video gaming industry in QA for some time and even have my name on RPG titles with story branching systems. As such I can tell you too many lead designers I encountered do think they know better than anyone else what the players needs versus what they think they need. Or when they do want to try to listen they are hindered by clueless suits.
Would you even do focus groups that do proove they are totally wrong and said that feature isn't either great or understood by the players, these would not listen to you.
You know because you're just a "player" they do think you are clueless of what you really need. While some players are indeed ignorant about what it takes to change features in a game, especially a MMO. There are many players: DBA, developers, graphic artists, writers that arent that stupid.
Just remember some not so great sentences from BioWare about how we didn't see Han space mining, or players can't relate to non humanoid species. And ypu'll get the picture.
BioWare camped on its position and sadly we're all the looser in the end. Them because they delivered a not so great MMO. Sandboxers because this game is the opposite of a sandbox and Themepark players because once the story is done they'll be left with nothign interesting to do in game.
What is even more disappointing is they spent supposedly around 100+ millions on a half baked product. Something like twice if not more the budget of AoC, AioN, Lotro and maybe Rift to end with... V.O. fair dialogs.
very true I know couple of guys who work in the game industry and work with many developers like that who get a vision in there head and belive what they want is best for everyone.. Now in some ways you can so well they are the developer and can do what they want. But for a game like this for a MMO specifically you want subscriptions you want people to continue playing for years and needs to listen to feedback.. either way good post and I agree with pretty much all the points you made...
it is and it isnt for me leaving all that stuff out makes it look like the developers really have no clue what MMO players really want in there games and I'm worried about the outcome fo this game in the long run. I have been playing online games since before web browsers were even around when we played text based MUDS on BBS. In MMO's the story can only take a game so far and all that "fluff" if you will is what keeps people around
After many disappointing hours of game play during this weekend's SWTOR Beta, I expected to read a plethora of scathing reviews this morning. I was sadly disappointed.
I stopped reading right there.
People are going to have different opinions about this game, and yes -- some of us like it. Some of us have been playing for months and have seen the game through various builds and changes. It's a great game. It's fun. It's engaging. It has a story that fans will like.
Just beacuse it's not SWG 2.0 or UO 2011 or some other sandbox doesn't make it bad. Bioware have done a great job so far in offering up an alternative to World of Warcraft that just might bring in new fans to the genre.
For an OP with so much attention to minutae, you may find it edifying to note that the reason "Mos Eisley" in SW:TOR does not look like Mos Eisley, is because it is Mos Ila and not Mos Eisley. That much is clear from both the dialog and the maps.
FFS.....Bioware made trhe game they wanted to make. Play it and enjoy, or don't and play something else.
It's THAT EASY.
and when release comes that's what will happen. But till then we will come and bitch about it. This is no differen't than any other big MMO relase since EQ1 you honestly expected it to be differn't or you just new to MMOs :P
Its not that no one has anything negative to say, if anyone is like me and for 6 years there has been nothing but poor MMO's put out in the market. After one disappointment after another over the years its refreshing to see a product that brings together many of the good features of past MMO's and puts it in a nice package with voice acting and cinema. I have been really enjoying the game and will say of course just like anything improvement is always needed, but for someone to sit here and expect perfection in a game is naive and ignorant.
FFS.....Bioware made trhe game they wanted to make. Play it and enjoy, or don't and play something else.
It's THAT EASY.
and when release comes that's what will happen. But till then we will come and bitch about it. This is no differen't than any other big MMO relase since EQ1 you honestly expected it to be differn't or you just new to MMOs :P
No, I know. I've been around for a while
It just gets old. And it makes it REALLY hard for people who DO like a game to discuss it when every thread is derailed by complainers, or you have to sift through dozens of threads made by people who hate the game and don't even have their facts straight.
Its not that no one has anything negative to say, if anyone is like me and for 6 years there has been nothing but poor MMO's put out in the market. After one disappointment after another over the years its refreshing to see a product that brings together many of the good features of past MMO's and puts it in a nice package with voice acting and cinema. I have been really enjoying the game and will say of course just like anything improvement is always needed, but for someone to sit here and expect perfection in a game is naive and ignorant.
I agree with that but to not expect probably the highest budgeted MMO release in history to not include basic funadmental MMO elements after how many years these games have been released is silly to me as well.. either way it's definatley a game worth playing but feels half done and really wondering were all that money was spent(voice acting must be more expensive than I thought)
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Every themepark MMO is on rails. Hence the term. And what other features did they deliver less on? It has everything you want in a themepark MMO, and storytelling to boot!
The things you mention are hardly NEEDED for an MMO to be fun.
with money and time they had to put this game together no reason why they really don't have at least 75% of what you mentioned up there
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
Ah I am sorry. Really. But sometimes it is better to accept what people are capable of. It saves a lot of grief. For them, and you. They are nice playthings. Like a dog you can love and teach a trick. Progress does come, but usually with pain and because humans have bumped their heads against a wall several times.
But don't listen to me. I am just an old dragon in my cave. Maybe I am wrong. It is honorable to try to better things even if you know you are destined to fail. That too is honor.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
not NEEDED but pretty much expected since most FREE mmos have 90% of that stuff already... just feels like a big kick in the face for not adding a lot of that in.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
Seriously though, say what you have to say. Whether people learn from it.....we'll never know. Pride gets in the way of things. So does idiocy. Meh.
If that's how you feel, I respect it. For me, personally, not so much. There's always "the future" to look for these things. All I need is a solid basis. The fluff will come.
I hope everyone here realizes that if no one thats posted on this forum buys this game bioware will not even notice the diffrence. So foam and froth at the mouth all you want about how much you hate this game or what you think it should be, bioware or EA for that matter will not miss anyones money on this thread.
You are either new to the forums and you dont know what a troll is or you are so blissfully in love with your new E-Wife, that you are blind to her faults.
The op backed up his opinions with examples. Examples so far that I haven't heard anyone actually challenge other than to call him names.
I am seeing a lot of people posting "large wall of text...did not read" and then spew their comments, lame and quite disappointing. I guess they will have no one to blame but themselves when they realize in a few months how shallow and sterile Tor really is. The Tor community really reminds me of the Rift fans in this regard.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
with 135 million dollars spent I honestly think its sad people just accept this game comes with less features than many free to play MMO's released. Storys are great and all and its a big reason to play but for such a big release this late in the MMO game to not include many features free games come with just seems ridiculous to me.. for "the future" you should expect expanding stories, new races, new classes, ect.. not stuff that should be no brainer stuff upon release
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
Now thats just being rude. People enjoy different games. Excuse us for liking SWTOR, oh great one.
All I can do is disagree for the reasons posted above
. Its a personal preference.
Dear Elikal,
I've been working in the video gaming industry in QA for some time and even have my name on RPG titles with story branching systems. As such I can tell you too many lead designers I encountered do think they know better than anyone else what the players needs versus what they think they need. Or when they do want to try to listen they are hindered by clueless suits.
Would you even do focus groups that do proove they are totally wrong and said that feature isn't either great or understood by the players, these would not listen to you.
You know because you're just a "player" they do think you are clueless of what you really need. While some players are indeed ignorant about what it takes to change features in a game, especially a MMO. There are many players: DBA, developers, graphic artists, writers that arent that stupid.
Just remember some not so great sentences from BioWare about how we didn't see Han space mining, or players can't relate to non humanoid species. And you'll get the picture.
BioWare camped on its position and sadly we're all the looser in the end. Them because they delivered a not so great MMO. Sandboxers because this game is the opposite of a sandbox and Themepark players because once the story is done they'll be left with nothing interesting to do in game.
What is even more disappointing is they spent supposedly around 100+ millions on a half baked product. Something like twice if not more the budget of AoC, AioN, Lotro and maybe Rift to end with... V.O. & fair dialogs.
Rude in what way???
The rift community was quite happy campers just before and during launch even when people were pointing obvious problems, yet they choose not to listen to the feed back.....copy/paste tor.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Was that supposed to be a grand revelation?
It's really not that serious...
very true I know couple of guys who work in the game industry and work with many developers like that who get a vision in there head and belive what they want is best for everyone.. Now in some ways you can so well they are the developer and can do what they want. But for a game like this for a MMO specifically you want subscriptions you want people to continue playing for years and needs to listen to feedback.. either way good post and I agree with pretty much all the points you made...
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
it is and it isnt for me leaving all that stuff out makes it look like the developers really have no clue what MMO players really want in there games and I'm worried about the outcome fo this game in the long run. I have been playing online games since before web browsers were even around when we played text based MUDS on BBS. In MMO's the story can only take a game so far and all that "fluff" if you will is what keeps people around
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
I stopped reading right there.
People are going to have different opinions about this game, and yes -- some of us like it. Some of us have been playing for months and have seen the game through various builds and changes. It's a great game. It's fun. It's engaging. It has a story that fans will like.
Just beacuse it's not SWG 2.0 or UO 2011 or some other sandbox doesn't make it bad. Bioware have done a great job so far in offering up an alternative to World of Warcraft that just might bring in new fans to the genre.
FFS.....Bioware made trhe game they wanted to make. Play it and enjoy, or don't and play something else.
It's THAT EASY.
For an OP with so much attention to minutae, you may find it edifying to note that the reason "Mos Eisley" in SW:TOR does not look like Mos Eisley, is because it is Mos Ila and not Mos Eisley. That much is clear from both the dialog and the maps.
and when release comes that's what will happen. But till then we will come and bitch about it. This is no differen't than any other big MMO relase since EQ1 you honestly expected it to be differn't or you just new to MMOs :P
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
Its not that no one has anything negative to say, if anyone is like me and for 6 years there has been nothing but poor MMO's put out in the market. After one disappointment after another over the years its refreshing to see a product that brings together many of the good features of past MMO's and puts it in a nice package with voice acting and cinema. I have been really enjoying the game and will say of course just like anything improvement is always needed, but for someone to sit here and expect perfection in a game is naive and ignorant.
No, I know. I've been around for a while
It just gets old. And it makes it REALLY hard for people who DO like a game to discuss it when every thread is derailed by complainers, or you have to sift through dozens of threads made by people who hate the game and don't even have their facts straight.
I agree with that but to not expect probably the highest budgeted MMO release in history to not include basic funadmental MMO elements after how many years these games have been released is silly to me as well.. either way it's definatley a game worth playing but feels half done and really wondering were all that money was spent(voice acting must be more expensive than I thought)
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html