So far I'd give Bioware the title of the scammer of the year. First the artifical queues at servers to make people spread evenly, then the "servers overloaded" excuse to stop people posting on their forums - but the "pay us to get what you already paid for" is really the best.
I don't get it people. Some say it's common practice. No it is not. I haven't seen it in WOW, AoC, or LOTRO. You just bought the game, stamped in your code, you got your game time and no credit card number, paypal or prepaid cards were needed.
They say they would not bill you until the 30 days are over.
Well lets just ignore the fact that people posted they were billed immediatelly, for the moment, but if this is true why the heck do they need the card number in advance? They do not need it and they will not get it, period. I liked the game even if it's very wowlike, I liked it despite the bugs everywhere but no I'm not going to let them manipulate me like that. If they get used to the fact that people will sheep away and do what they want, well good for them and damn bad for us.
I'm really really sorry that I bought the game and if I could get my money back I'd go for it immediatelly. Very disapointed.
Have you ever played an MMORPG before this? They ALL make you sign up for a subscription plan once you buy the full game. It isn't seen in WoW or LotRO because they are F2P, genius. SWTOR isn't. I can't address AoC because I've never tried it. We are all billed immediately with a verification charge, which all adults here should know is just a test to make sure you aren't feeding them crap accounts. The charge is routinely canceled after a few days. So don't expect much sympathy just because you don't know regular business practices or how credit cards work.
WoW is not free to play plus when it launched back in 2004-5 there was no free trial yet eather.
Sorry but that is completely false. WoW came with free 30-days of playtime. I would know since I have started from day-1.
Unless of course by free trial you mean something like current "free trial levels 1-20" ?
I could be mistaken of course but am actually fairly sure that he means a free trial with free trial and not the 30days of playtime...you yourself make it clear already that a free trial is not the 30days...which btw were not free you paid for them when you bought the box....so why would you claim something is completly false but than in the next sentence proof its not??
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
I agree with this.
Since when do you get billed BEFORE your 30 days of play that comes with purchase is complete? That's just utter horseshit.
So far I'd give Bioware the title of the scammer of the year. First the artifical queues at servers to make people spread evenly, then the "servers overloaded" excuse to stop people posting on their forums - but the "pay us to get what you already paid for" is really the best.
I don't get it people. Some say it's common practice. No it is not. I haven't seen it in WOW, AoC, or LOTRO. You just bought the game, stamped in your code, you got your game time and no credit card number, paypal or prepaid cards were needed.
They say they would not bill you until the 30 days are over.
Well lets just ignore the fact that people posted they were billed immediatelly, for the moment, but if this is true why the heck do they need the card number in advance? They do not need it and they will not get it, period. I liked the game even if it's very wowlike, I liked it despite the bugs everywhere but no I'm not going to let them manipulate me like that. If they get used to the fact that people will sheep away and do what they want, well good for them and damn bad for us.
I'm really really sorry that I bought the game and if I could get my money back I'd go for it immediatelly. Very disapointed.
I wasnt billed immediately, if other people were im sure they can contact customer service and get it refunded.
I played WoW, AoC and LOTRO before they were F2P and all 3 of them required a credit card to be entered before you could even set up your account. So unless you are referring to them since they became F2P (or in the case of WoW, free below level 20), then you are sorely mistaken.
It is definitely common practice in any P2P MMO. I have the box of all those games, and like SWTOR, and they all say 'valid and accepted payment method and paid subscription or paid game time card and internet connection required to play game. 30 day subscription included with purchase'. The 30 days included doesnt exempt you from requiring a valid credit card or game time card.
I played WoW, AoC and LOTRO before they were F2P and all 3 of them required a credit card to be entered before you could even set up your account. So unless you are referring to them since they became F2P (or in the case of WoW, free below level 20), then you are sorely mistaken.
It is definitely common practice in any P2P MMO. I have the box of all those games, and like SWTOR, and they all say 'valid and accepted payment method and paid subscription or paid game time card and internet connection required to play game. 30 day subscription included with purchase'. The 30 days included doesnt exempt you from requiring a valid credit card or game time card.
No, I do not think so. I have always had to enter payment deatils once the 30 days was up, not before. Last year I definately did not need to enter CC details into WOW, I just needed the code that came with game. I also did not need to enter CC details into LOTRO either when it launched in 2007, and I have purchased several SWG codes from Steam, D2D over the years, and the code that came with the game was enough to play the game for 30 days too.
I wasnt billed either...no one I know has been billed, who claims they were are just trolling.
Every one should see a charge but It is the authorisation fee which gets refunded
"Please note that we do require a valid payment method to be attached to each account, even though you should not be billed (beyond a small authorization fee that will be refunded) until your 30 days free game time has elapsed. "
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Actually it requires regardless of a free set of day so of not a sub being done, as well as a cc or gamecard. Also this is stated on the item prior to puchace, and so you and all of the other people trying to say it is a scam are blind and stupid for thinking you can make an arguement it is a scam or bad business. YOu are a sad person if you forget to cancel a sub after signing up and finding you dislike the game, or being smart and getting a pre-paid card or game card to ensure you do not get over charged for it. Actually yese wow is partially f2p up to a levle without a trail being bought.
Now mods lets close this thread, as well as others that open about this issue, along side having the op of these being punished for opening it as it is most likely the same person that has opened the rest of these.
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Actually it requires regardless of a free set of day so of not a sub being done, as well as a cc or gamecard. Also this is stated on the item prior to puchace, and so you and all of the other people trying to say it is a scam are blind and stupid for thinking you can make an arguement it is a scam or bad business. YOu are a sad person if you forget to cancel a sub after signing up and finding you dislike the game, or being smart and getting a pre-paid card or game card to ensure you do not get over charged for it. Actually yese wow is partially f2p up to a levle without a trail being bought.
Now mods lets close this thread, as well as others that open about this issue, along side having the op of these being punished for opening it as it is most likely the same person that has opened the rest of these.
It says on the box that 30 days subscription is supplied with the game, and it states that a payment method or time cards is required to keep playing, but it does not state that payment details are required before the 30 days runs out, and are needed immediately.
The fact of my time cards being delayed in the post was not a bother to me, as thought I had until 20th Jan to input them, but that is not the case now.
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
I have not had this problem before. so they are not doing it the same as other MMOs
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
I have not had this problem before. so they are not doing it the same as other MMOs
I have I've played MMO's since EQ1 at release and just about every AAA P2P MMO I have played required you put in your billing information. Everything from EQ1,Asheron's call, Anarchy Online,DAOC,WOW,WAR I could go on and on Tabula Rasa, AC2, .....but I digress. I know this from experience not things I read but things I did.
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
I have not had this problem before. so they are not doing it the same as other MMOs
I have I've played MMO's since EQ1 at release and just about every AAA P2P MMO I have played required you put in your billing information. Everything from EQ1,Asheron's call, Anarchy Online,DAOC,WOW,WAR I could go on and on Tabula Rasa, AC2, .....but I digress. I know this from experience not things I read but things I did.
Yep this. Not sure why Blizzard / Turbine / Funcom thought that guy was special, but I was there at launch of all those games and everyone in my guild had to input their credit card at setup. If you didnt want to keep playing after the 30 days you cancel and then you dont get billed. Now that those games are F2P you obviously dont need a credit card, but they all definitely required one straight out of the box.
Why is this even an issue? Anyone who has ever played P2P games knows you need a credit card to set it up. Who doesnt have a credit card these days anyway aside from children too young to be playing anyway? The banks give them out like candy.
I'm sure there are some people who don't realize that, especially parents who bought it for their kid. It is a crappy way to do things. The better way is to remind them a week before their 30 days are up.
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
I have not had this problem before. so they are not doing it the same as other MMOs
I have I've played MMO's since EQ1 at release and just about every AAA P2P MMO I have played required you put in your billing information. Everything from EQ1,Asheron's call, Anarchy Online,DAOC,WOW,WAR I could go on and on Tabula Rasa, AC2, .....but I digress. I know this from experience not things I read but things I did.
What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
I am just trying to figure out where it became so wrong for a business to charge people for services rendered. I have not a single problem entering in my CC info to start my sub. If I decide not to play I simply cancel if I decide to continue using their services then i will pay. So whats the problem? Oh wait I forgot we are supposed to hate any one that makes money. Yeah screw you guys for comming up with an idea that didn't and then having the nerve to make money off of that idea while I dont. Who do you think you are??? *sarcasm off*
I am just trying to figure out where it became so wrong for a business to charge people for services rendered. I have not a single problem entering in my CC info to start my sub. If I decide not to play I simply cancel if I decide to continue using their services then i will pay. So whats the problem? Oh wait I forgot we are supposed to hate any one that makes money. Yeah screw you guys for comming up with an idea that didn't and then having the nerve to make money off of that idea while I dont. Who do you think you are??? *sarcasm off*
Is it really money made if you did it by such a means?
Why can't the game give a newly created account, with it's key in place, the 30 days and then ask for the card if they felt like staying?
In particular with all of the CC# heists that do take place.
EA can follow the standard and not seem so skeezy about it. It's a simple fix on their behalf if they'd get their heads out of their asses.
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I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
I am just trying to figure out where it became so wrong for a business to charge people for services rendered. I have not a single problem entering in my CC info to start my sub. If I decide not to play I simply cancel if I decide to continue using their services then i will pay. So whats the problem? Oh wait I forgot we are supposed to hate any one that makes money. Yeah screw you guys for comming up with an idea that didn't and then having the nerve to make money off of that idea while I dont. Who do you think you are??? *sarcasm off*
I did not need to enter any CC details when I put in my game registration code for WOW last year at christmas 2010, the reg code was enough for the 30 days. I did not carry on the subscription, but in March the account got hacked by credit farmers and spammers, and I am glad that they did not ask for the credit card details, otherwise these hackers would have gotten hold of my card, and done some serious damage financilaly to me.
I have no problems in giving card details to EA or whoever, but I do not want hackers getting the details, and find it unnecssary for EA to request such detail before the 30 days. Even if you delete the card details, hackers can still retrive the information.
It is because of all this, I am now using time cards
Also the way EA are doing this, is they let you put in your registration code between 13th and 20th Dec, and then if you do not have a time card, your 30 days carry onj ticking down, until you get a time card. I have 2 60 day time cards ordered but not yet received them and if I had entered the product code then would only have 24 days left now, and still unable to play. If they wanted timecards / payment details upfront then should ask it before taking the registration code
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
I have not had this problem before. so they are not doing it the same as other MMOs
I have I've played MMO's since EQ1 at release and just about every AAA P2P MMO I have played required you put in your billing information. Everything from EQ1,Asheron's call, Anarchy Online,DAOC,WOW,WAR I could go on and on Tabula Rasa, AC2, .....but I digress. I know this from experience not things I read but things I did.
What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
So you are saying you played everyone one of those MMO's I listed at release and never had to put in any CC info at all and that Bioware is the first company to do this ever?
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
I have not had this problem before. so they are not doing it the same as other MMOs
I have I've played MMO's since EQ1 at release and just about every AAA P2P MMO I have played required you put in your billing information. Everything from EQ1,Asheron's call, Anarchy Online,DAOC,WOW,WAR I could go on and on Tabula Rasa, AC2, .....but I digress. I know this from experience not things I read but things I did.
What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
So you are saying you played everyone one of those MMO's I listed at release and never had to put in any CC info at all and that Bioware is the first company to do this ever?
To be honest can not remember it was all so long ago now, but do know that WOW did not do this last year, and SWG did not do this over the last few years - Just enter the code that came with the game, and you got 30 days, and no need to enter CC details at all. If I did not want to enter payment details then I didn't. I never felt forced to enter them until now, when I would rather use time cards
Maybe they stopped asking for CC details when they started doing time cards? Time cards and asking for credit card details does not mix and work!
You had to give some details at 30 days when the free time (if offered) ran out, but not straight away, they were all optional, or at least I bet they did not do it the way Bioware are doing it - let you enter your reg code, and then leave you locked out as you do not have a time card to enter and it was all done all at once, so you knew what was happening, as regardless of what ever other companies have done, if Bioware want to do this, then it is wrong for them to carry on using up your 30 days, and can not play because you have not got a time card
What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
That is from 2008, but I never had to enter CC details last year. If Bioware are against fraud then they should not need to ask payment details until the end of the 30 days, when payment is needed. There are hackers everywhere these days
WoW is not F2P lol. It has a free unlimited trial to level 20 lol. If anything it is the most expensive P2P MMO. You pay a lot for all the xpacs +$15 month sub.
@OP, this is common practice. All MMOs including WoW required CC information on registration. At least this was the case when I started playing at launch. They might've changed it.
However, what is not common practice is the fact that they billed you now. This should not happen. Go ask for a refund
LOTRO is F2P so lol....
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I could be mistaken of course but am actually fairly sure that he means a free trial with free trial and not the 30days of playtime...you yourself make it clear already that a free trial is not the 30days...which btw were not free you paid for them when you bought the box....so why would you claim something is completly false but than in the next sentence proof its not??
I agree with this.
Since when do you get billed BEFORE your 30 days of play that comes with purchase is complete? That's just utter horseshit.
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I wasnt billed immediately, if other people were im sure they can contact customer service and get it refunded.
I played WoW, AoC and LOTRO before they were F2P and all 3 of them required a credit card to be entered before you could even set up your account. So unless you are referring to them since they became F2P (or in the case of WoW, free below level 20), then you are sorely mistaken.
It is definitely common practice in any P2P MMO. I have the box of all those games, and like SWTOR, and they all say 'valid and accepted payment method and paid subscription or paid game time card and internet connection required to play game. 30 day subscription included with purchase'. The 30 days included doesnt exempt you from requiring a valid credit card or game time card.
I wasnt billed either...no one I know has been billed, who claims they were are just trolling.
No, I do not think so. I have always had to enter payment deatils once the 30 days was up, not before. Last year I definately did not need to enter CC details into WOW, I just needed the code that came with game. I also did not need to enter CC details into LOTRO either when it launched in 2007, and I have purchased several SWG codes from Steam, D2D over the years, and the code that came with the game was enough to play the game for 30 days too.
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Every one should see a charge but It is the authorisation fee which gets refunded
"Please note that we do require a valid payment method to be attached to each account, even though you should not be billed (beyond a small authorization fee that will be refunded) until your 30 days free game time has elapsed. "
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Actually it requires regardless of a free set of day so of not a sub being done, as well as a cc or gamecard. Also this is stated on the item prior to puchace, and so you and all of the other people trying to say it is a scam are blind and stupid for thinking you can make an arguement it is a scam or bad business. YOu are a sad person if you forget to cancel a sub after signing up and finding you dislike the game, or being smart and getting a pre-paid card or game card to ensure you do not get over charged for it. Actually yese wow is partially f2p up to a levle without a trail being bought.
Now mods lets close this thread, as well as others that open about this issue, along side having the op of these being punished for opening it as it is most likely the same person that has opened the rest of these.
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
It says on the box that 30 days subscription is supplied with the game, and it states that a payment method or time cards is required to keep playing, but it does not state that payment details are required before the 30 days runs out, and are needed immediately.
The fact of my time cards being delayed in the post was not a bother to me, as thought I had until 20th Jan to input them, but that is not the case now.
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I have not had this problem before. so they are not doing it the same as other MMOs
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I have I've played MMO's since EQ1 at release and just about every AAA P2P MMO I have played required you put in your billing information. Everything from EQ1,Asheron's call, Anarchy Online,DAOC,WOW,WAR I could go on and on Tabula Rasa, AC2, .....but I digress. I know this from experience not things I read but things I did.
Yep this. Not sure why Blizzard / Turbine / Funcom thought that guy was special, but I was there at launch of all those games and everyone in my guild had to input their credit card at setup. If you didnt want to keep playing after the 30 days you cancel and then you dont get billed. Now that those games are F2P you obviously dont need a credit card, but they all definitely required one straight out of the box.
Why is this even an issue? Anyone who has ever played P2P games knows you need a credit card to set it up. Who doesnt have a credit card these days anyway aside from children too young to be playing anyway? The banks give them out like candy.
I'm sure there are some people who don't realize that, especially parents who bought it for their kid. It is a crappy way to do things. The better way is to remind them a week before their 30 days are up.
This is the negative effect of f2p. Everyone forgets how p2p mmos work. Don't blame them. Blame other MMO companies
What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
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I am just trying to figure out where it became so wrong for a business to charge people for services rendered. I have not a single problem entering in my CC info to start my sub. If I decide not to play I simply cancel if I decide to continue using their services then i will pay. So whats the problem? Oh wait I forgot we are supposed to hate any one that makes money. Yeah screw you guys for comming up with an idea that didn't and then having the nerve to make money off of that idea while I dont. Who do you think you are??? *sarcasm off*
Is it really money made if you did it by such a means?
Why can't the game give a newly created account, with it's key in place, the 30 days and then ask for the card if they felt like staying?
In particular with all of the CC# heists that do take place.
EA can follow the standard and not seem so skeezy about it. It's a simple fix on their behalf if they'd get their heads out of their asses.
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I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
I did not need to enter any CC details when I put in my game registration code for WOW last year at christmas 2010, the reg code was enough for the 30 days. I did not carry on the subscription, but in March the account got hacked by credit farmers and spammers, and I am glad that they did not ask for the credit card details, otherwise these hackers would have gotten hold of my card, and done some serious damage financilaly to me.
I have no problems in giving card details to EA or whoever, but I do not want hackers getting the details, and find it unnecssary for EA to request such detail before the 30 days. Even if you delete the card details, hackers can still retrive the information.
It is because of all this, I am now using time cards
Also the way EA are doing this, is they let you put in your registration code between 13th and 20th Dec, and then if you do not have a time card, your 30 days carry onj ticking down, until you get a time card. I have 2 60 day time cards ordered but not yet received them and if I had entered the product code then would only have 24 days left now, and still unable to play. If they wanted timecards / payment details upfront then should ask it before taking the registration code
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So you are saying you played everyone one of those MMO's I listed at release and never had to put in any CC info at all and that Bioware is the first company to do this ever?
To be honest can not remember it was all so long ago now, but do know that WOW did not do this last year, and SWG did not do this over the last few years - Just enter the code that came with the game, and you got 30 days, and no need to enter CC details at all. If I did not want to enter payment details then I didn't. I never felt forced to enter them until now, when I would rather use time cards
Maybe they stopped asking for CC details when they started doing time cards? Time cards and asking for credit card details does not mix and work!
You had to give some details at 30 days when the free time (if offered) ran out, but not straight away, they were all optional, or at least I bet they did not do it the way Bioware are doing it - let you enter your reg code, and then leave you locked out as you do not have a time card to enter and it was all done all at once, so you knew what was happening, as regardless of what ever other companies have done, if Bioware want to do this, then it is wrong for them to carry on using up your 30 days, and can not play because you have not got a time card
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Doubt that - http://uk.gamespot.com/world-of-warcraft/forum/free-trial-is-a-scam-41469149
I like it - keeps the riff-raff out and playing F2P games
Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.
That is from 2008, but I never had to enter CC details last year. If Bioware are against fraud then they should not need to ask payment details until the end of the 30 days, when payment is needed. There are hackers everywhere these days
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Dunno about that, but it will attract more hackers to hack your details and get your CC info!
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WoW is not F2P lol. It has a free unlimited trial to level 20 lol. If anything it is the most expensive P2P MMO. You pay a lot for all the xpacs +$15 month sub.
@OP, this is common practice. All MMOs including WoW required CC information on registration. At least this was the case when I started playing at launch. They might've changed it.
However, what is not common practice is the fact that they billed you now. This should not happen. Go ask for a refund
LOTRO is F2P so lol....
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