What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
That is from 2008, but I never had to enter CC details last year. If Bioware are against fraud then they should not need to ask payment details until the end of the 30 days, when payment is needed. There are hackers everywhere these days
So you played WoW in 2011? When they now have the free until 20 crap. Your story just keeps getting more and more twisted. Everyone who played these games at launch is telling you that you are full of it.
Here is my favourite line ' The site insisted that I enter my credit card and choose a subscription plan (1 month/3month/etc.). I shrugged and did it, planning to cancel that as soon as possible in favor of the free-to-play'.
Check out this line - 'You will have to enter your credit card, and also gain access to the full month of free play time in the MMO part of the game.'
But hey, I am sure we are all wrong and you magically got access to these games without using a credit card.
Please stop telling lies. Everyone knows you are full of hot air. All the Triple A monthly sub MMOs that didnt have a F2P option at the time have required a credit card to be entered at the account creation stage. You cannot get into the game without an account, so you had to put your valid credit card details in, they would even do a quick check to make sure it was a valid credit card.
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
I have not had this problem before. so they are not doing it the same as other MMOs
I have I've played MMO's since EQ1 at release and just about every AAA P2P MMO I have played required you put in your billing information. Everything from EQ1,Asheron's call, Anarchy Online,DAOC,WOW,WAR I could go on and on Tabula Rasa, AC2, .....but I digress. I know this from experience not things I read but things I did.
What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
So you are saying you played everyone one of those MMO's I listed at release and never had to put in any CC info at all and that Bioware is the first company to do this ever?
To be honest can not remember it was all so long ago now, but do know that WOW did not do this last year, and SWG did not do this over the last few years - Just enter the code that came with the game, and you got 30 days, and no need to enter CC details at all. If I did not want to enter payment details then I didn't. I never felt forced to enter them until now, when I would rather use time cards
Maybe they stopped asking for CC details when they started doing time cards? Time cards and asking for credit card details does not mix and work!
You had to give some details at 30 days when the free time (if offered) ran out, but not straight away, they were all optional, or at least I bet they did not do it the way Bioware are doing it - let you enter your reg code, and then leave you locked out as you do not have a time card to enter and it was all done all at once, so you knew what was happening, as regardless of what ever other companies have done, if Bioware want to do this, then it is wrong for them to carry on using up your 30 days, and can not play because you have not got a time card
Oh ok that sounds alot different than no other MMO has ever made you enter your info setting up an account and that EA/Bioware is the "First" company ever to do it. So I guess you could say you are speaking from very very limited experience.
What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
That is from 2008, but I never had to enter CC details last year. If Bioware are against fraud then they should not need to ask payment details until the end of the 30 days, when payment is needed. There are hackers everywhere these days
So you played WoW in 2011? When they now have the free until 20 crap. Your story just keeps getting more and more twisted. Everyone who played these games at launch is telling you that you are full of it.
Here is my favourite line ' The site insisted that I enter my credit card and choose a subscription plan (1 month/3month/etc.). I shrugged and did it, planning to cancel that as soon as possible in favor of the free-to-play'.
Check out this line - 'You will have to enter your credit card, and also gain access to the full month of free play time in the MMO part of the game.'
But hey, I am sure we are all wrong and you magically got access to these games without using a credit card.
Please stop telling lies. Everyone knows you are full of hot air. All the Triple A monthly sub MMOs that didnt have a F2P option at the time have required a credit card to be entered at the account creation stage. You cannot get into the game without an account, so you had to put your valid credit card details in, they would even do a quick check to make sure it was a valid credit card.
So whats your new excuse?
No I played WOW in Dec 2010. F2P thing to 20 did not come into effect until mid 2011, and was not about last year
I definately did not enter any credit card details with LOTRO on release, and just bought the LT sub within the month. But then it was Codemasters and not Turbine
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
I have not had this problem before. so they are not doing it the same as other MMOs
I have I've played MMO's since EQ1 at release and just about every AAA P2P MMO I have played required you put in your billing information. Everything from EQ1,Asheron's call, Anarchy Online,DAOC,WOW,WAR I could go on and on Tabula Rasa, AC2, .....but I digress. I know this from experience not things I read but things I did.
What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
So you are saying you played everyone one of those MMO's I listed at release and never had to put in any CC info at all and that Bioware is the first company to do this ever?
To be honest can not remember it was all so long ago now, but do know that WOW did not do this last year, and SWG did not do this over the last few years - Just enter the code that came with the game, and you got 30 days, and no need to enter CC details at all. If I did not want to enter payment details then I didn't. I never felt forced to enter them until now, when I would rather use time cards
Maybe they stopped asking for CC details when they started doing time cards? Time cards and asking for credit card details does not mix and work!
You had to give some details at 30 days when the free time (if offered) ran out, but not straight away, they were all optional, or at least I bet they did not do it the way Bioware are doing it - let you enter your reg code, and then leave you locked out as you do not have a time card to enter and it was all done all at once, so you knew what was happening, as regardless of what ever other companies have done, if Bioware want to do this, then it is wrong for them to carry on using up your 30 days, and can not play because you have not got a time card
Oh ok that sounds alot different than no other MMO has ever made you enter your info setting up an account and that EA/Bioware is the "First" company ever to do it. So I guess you could say you are speaking from very very limited experience.
I am speaking from loads of experience. Nothing from recent years requires it, and all the other stuff is so long ago, I do not remember, and neither do you.
I have not been charged for the 30 days. Just because you have to put in your credit card info, it does not mean that they charge you right away. I see no problem. Just another troll.
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
I have not had this problem before. so they are not doing it the same as other MMOs
I have I've played MMO's since EQ1 at release and just about every AAA P2P MMO I have played required you put in your billing information. Everything from EQ1,Asheron's call, Anarchy Online,DAOC,WOW,WAR I could go on and on Tabula Rasa, AC2, .....but I digress. I know this from experience not things I read but things I did.
What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
So you are saying you played everyone one of those MMO's I listed at release and never had to put in any CC info at all and that Bioware is the first company to do this ever?
To be honest can not remember it was all so long ago now, but do know that WOW did not do this last year, and SWG did not do this over the last few years - Just enter the code that came with the game, and you got 30 days, and no need to enter CC details at all. If I did not want to enter payment details then I didn't. I never felt forced to enter them until now, when I would rather use time cards
Maybe they stopped asking for CC details when they started doing time cards? Time cards and asking for credit card details does not mix and work!
You had to give some details at 30 days when the free time (if offered) ran out, but not straight away, they were all optional, or at least I bet they did not do it the way Bioware are doing it - let you enter your reg code, and then leave you locked out as you do not have a time card to enter and it was all done all at once, so you knew what was happening, as regardless of what ever other companies have done, if Bioware want to do this, then it is wrong for them to carry on using up your 30 days, and can not play because you have not got a time card
Oh ok that sounds alot different than no other MMO has ever made you enter your info setting up an account and that EA/Bioware is the "First" company ever to do it. So I guess you could say you are speaking from very very limited experience.
I am speaking from loads of experience. Nothing from recent years requires it, and all the other stuff is so long ago, I do not remember, and neither do you.
Really so because you can't remember things past a couple years no one can? I can remember plain as day. I think you are just dense seriously. Just admit you where wrong it will be ok people would respect what you have to say more then when you tell lie's and then act like you know what people can remember when you have several people telling you exact MMO's and even posting you links to MMO's that did it.
I have not been charged for the 30 days. Just because you have to put in your credit card info, it does not mean that they charge you right away. I see no problem. Just another troll.
You won't be saying that when you fin your account hacked, and someone ends up using your cc
The problem is that if you wanted to use time cards, instead of a CC, then they still count down your 30 days, and lock you out of the game. I have ordered 2 60 day time cards ages ago, but the shop I bought them from ran out before they sent mine, I do not see myself getting them until early to mid January now, and because of this stupid rule I can not play the game until they arrive.
I did not enter the game registartion code to mine, but from what I can tell the OP did.
This is not a troll at all, it is a very valid complaint.
I am speaking from loads of experience. Nothing from recent years requires it, and all the other stuff is so long ago, I do not remember, and neither do you.
I remember, but your memory has turned out to be rather selective. Looking at your sig, you played a lot of SWG... guess what? Even that required a credit card for setup!
I remember that one too, along with every other SoE MMO since EQ1, which all required credit cards for registration (until some went F2P like EQ2).
You are just a lying SWG troll who has been found out and is backpedalling fast. You think this game is responsible for shutting down your favourite MMO so you are out to bash it anyway you can, even though its all just lies. Anyone who has played a SoE MMO and complains about another being exploitative and money grabbing are just... lol.
So far I'd give Bioware the title of the scammer of the year. First the artifical queues at servers to make people spread evenly, then the "servers overloaded" excuse to stop people posting on their forums - but the "pay us to get what you already paid for" is really the best.
I don't get it people. Some say it's common practice. No it is not. I haven't seen it in WOW, AoC, or LOTRO. You just bought the game, stamped in your code, you got your game time and no credit card number, paypal or prepaid cards were needed.
They say they would not bill you until the 30 days are over.
Well lets just ignore the fact that people posted they were billed immediatelly, for the moment, but if this is true why the heck do they need the card number in advance? They do not need it and they will not get it, period. I liked the game even if it's very wowlike, I liked it despite the bugs everywhere but no I'm not going to let them manipulate me like that. If they get used to the fact that people will sheep away and do what they want, well good for them and damn bad for us.
I'm really really sorry that I bought the game and if I could get my money back I'd go for it immediatelly. Very disapointed.
Have you ever played an MMORPG before this? They ALL make you sign up for a subscription plan once you buy the full game. It isn't seen in WoW or LotRO because they are F2P, genius. SWTOR isn't. I can't address AoC because I've never tried it. We are all billed immediately with a verification charge, which all adults here should know is just a test to make sure you aren't feeding them crap accounts. The charge is routinely canceled after a few days. So don't expect much sympathy just because you don't know regular business practices or how credit cards work.
WoW is not free to play plus when it launched back in 2004-5 there was no free trial yet eather.
But with WoW and many others mmo's you buy the game put in your info and payment method there was no need for creditcard info just info gamecard for example and you could play after month they let you deside if you wanne play further or not.
So billed and charge is not true at all and insulting people is not nice btw eather.
1. Yes, WoW is free to play. God alone knows how you missed it being free until level 20 with all the internet ads they have trumpeting that fact.
2. Anything that says "active subscription required to play" is going to require you to sign up for a subscription plan before you get access to the 30 included days. This was the case when I bought WoW a long time ago, when I bought EVE, when I bought FFXI, when I bought WAR...
3. And as for "put in your info"... That is exactly what they are doing. The only charge is a $1 verification charge that doesn't stay on your account. Anyone who has ever done any online purchases should be familiar with this.
I did not know WoW was free i dont realy follow that kind of games sorry for misunstanding hehe.
But i think the difference is that here in europe different rules apply becouse majority here in europe don't have or use creditcards and i know many use gamecards-paypal or bank number here as i see them always in gameshops here those gamecards. With WoW and Darkfall we did not have this kind of rules we jsut had one month and after month finished we needed to active or it auto stopped.
Btw if i play 60 bucks i dont need anything to fill in just enter code of the game and play fuke them bastards there already filthy rich.
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
I have not had this problem before. so they are not doing it the same as other MMOs
I have I've played MMO's since EQ1 at release and just about every AAA P2P MMO I have played required you put in your billing information. Everything from EQ1,Asheron's call, Anarchy Online,DAOC,WOW,WAR I could go on and on Tabula Rasa, AC2, .....but I digress. I know this from experience not things I read but things I did.
What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
So you are saying you played everyone one of those MMO's I listed at release and never had to put in any CC info at all and that Bioware is the first company to do this ever?
To be honest can not remember it was all so long ago now, but do know that WOW did not do this last year, and SWG did not do this over the last few years - Just enter the code that came with the game, and you got 30 days, and no need to enter CC details at all. If I did not want to enter payment details then I didn't. I never felt forced to enter them until now, when I would rather use time cards
Maybe they stopped asking for CC details when they started doing time cards? Time cards and asking for credit card details does not mix and work!
You had to give some details at 30 days when the free time (if offered) ran out, but not straight away, they were all optional, or at least I bet they did not do it the way Bioware are doing it - let you enter your reg code, and then leave you locked out as you do not have a time card to enter and it was all done all at once, so you knew what was happening, as regardless of what ever other companies have done, if Bioware want to do this, then it is wrong for them to carry on using up your 30 days, and can not play because you have not got a time card
Oh ok that sounds alot different than no other MMO has ever made you enter your info setting up an account and that EA/Bioware is the "First" company ever to do it. So I guess you could say you are speaking from very very limited experience.
I am speaking from loads of experience. Nothing from recent years requires it, and all the other stuff is so long ago, I do not remember, and neither do you.
Really so because you can't remember things past a couple years no one can? I can remember plain as day. I think you are just dense seriously. Just admit you where wrong it will be ok people would respect what you have to say more then when you tell lie's and then act like you know what people can remember when you have several people telling you exact MMO's and even posting you links to MMO's that did it.
"you where wrong"? Should be "you were wrong" If you are going to call people dense, at least spell right!
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Hey, look EA is doing the same thing almost ever other MMO does! Those jerks!
If people don't investigate their purchases before making them, simple things like reading the game box or FAQ at least then you have no right to complain. It's not EA/BW's fault people make choices they aren't happy with.
I have not had this problem before. so they are not doing it the same as other MMOs
I have I've played MMO's since EQ1 at release and just about every AAA P2P MMO I have played required you put in your billing information. Everything from EQ1,Asheron's call, Anarchy Online,DAOC,WOW,WAR I could go on and on Tabula Rasa, AC2, .....but I digress. I know this from experience not things I read but things I did.
What I say is from experience too, and not from what people say. I could have entered payment details if I wanted to, but did not have to. This is the first game where you are forced to before the 30 days is up.
So you are saying you played everyone one of those MMO's I listed at release and never had to put in any CC info at all and that Bioware is the first company to do this ever?
To be honest can not remember it was all so long ago now, but do know that WOW did not do this last year, and SWG did not do this over the last few years - Just enter the code that came with the game, and you got 30 days, and no need to enter CC details at all. If I did not want to enter payment details then I didn't. I never felt forced to enter them until now, when I would rather use time cards
Maybe they stopped asking for CC details when they started doing time cards? Time cards and asking for credit card details does not mix and work!
You had to give some details at 30 days when the free time (if offered) ran out, but not straight away, they were all optional, or at least I bet they did not do it the way Bioware are doing it - let you enter your reg code, and then leave you locked out as you do not have a time card to enter and it was all done all at once, so you knew what was happening, as regardless of what ever other companies have done, if Bioware want to do this, then it is wrong for them to carry on using up your 30 days, and can not play because you have not got a time card
Oh ok that sounds alot different than no other MMO has ever made you enter your info setting up an account and that EA/Bioware is the "First" company ever to do it. So I guess you could say you are speaking from very very limited experience.
I am speaking from loads of experience. Nothing from recent years requires it, and all the other stuff is so long ago, I do not remember, and neither do you.
Really so because you can't remember things past a couple years no one can? I can remember plain as day. I think you are just dense seriously. Just admit you where wrong it will be ok people would respect what you have to say more then when you tell lie's and then act like you know what people can remember when you have several people telling you exact MMO's and even posting you links to MMO's that did it.
"you where wrong"? Should be "you were wrong" If you are going to call people dense, at least spell right!
I am speaking from loads of experience. Nothing from recent years requires it, and all the other stuff is so long ago, I do not remember, and neither do you.
I remember, but your memory has turned out to be rather selective. Looking at your sig, you played a lot of SWG... guess what? Even that required a credit card for setup!
I remember that one too, along with every other SoE MMO since EQ1, which all required credit cards for registration (until some went F2P like EQ2).
You are just a lying SWG troll who has been found out and is backpedalling fast. You think this game is responsible for shutting down your favourite MMO so you are out to bash it anyway you can, even though its all just lies. Anyone who has played a SoE MMO and complains about another being exploitative and money grabbing are just... lol.
I have bought loads of SWG accounts in recent years, and none of them required a credit card upon entering the registration code. I remember that well indeed, as entered loads of them
Why has Bioware suddenly decided to to back to the dark ages, when there are more hackers about these days?
I am speaking from loads of experience. Nothing from recent years requires it, and all the other stuff is so long ago, I do not remember, and neither do you.
I remember, but your memory has turned out to be rather selective. Looking at your sig, you played a lot of SWG... guess what? Even that required a credit card for setup!
I remember that one too, along with every other SoE MMO since EQ1, which all required credit cards for registration (until some went F2P like EQ2).
You are just a lying SWG troll who has been found out and is backpedalling fast. You think this game is responsible for shutting down your favourite MMO so you are out to bash it anyway you can, even though its all just lies. Anyone who has played a SoE MMO and complains about another being exploitative and money grabbing are just... lol.
I have bought loads of SWG accounts in recent years, and none of them required a credit card upon entering the registration code. I remember that well indeed, as entered loads of them
Why has Bioware suddenly decided to to back to the dark ages, when there are more hackers about these days?
That doesn't even make sense what does hackers have to do with any of this? I mean you would be in the same situation entering the card now as you would be entering it a month from now. Anyways Im outtie going to go watch a movie your too easy and not even a worthy troll.
I am speaking from loads of experience. Nothing from recent years requires it, and all the other stuff is so long ago, I do not remember, and neither do you.
I remember, but your memory has turned out to be rather selective. Looking at your sig, you played a lot of SWG... guess what? Even that required a credit card for setup!
I remember that one too, along with every other SoE MMO since EQ1, which all required credit cards for registration (until some went F2P like EQ2).
You are just a lying SWG troll who has been found out and is backpedalling fast. You think this game is responsible for shutting down your favourite MMO so you are out to bash it anyway you can, even though its all just lies. Anyone who has played a SoE MMO and complains about another being exploitative and money grabbing are just... lol.
I have bought loads of SWG accounts in recent years, and none of them required a credit card upon entering the registration code. I remember that well indeed, as entered loads of them
Why has Bioware suddenly decided to to back to the dark ages, when there are more hackers about these days?
That doesn't even make sense what does hackers have to do with any of this? I mean you would be in the same situation entering the card now as you would be entering it a month from now. Anyways Im outtie going to go watch a movie your too easy and not even a worthy troll.
You do not need to enter CC details if you enter time cards,
I have ordered 2 60 day timecards but I have not got them yet. No timecards = no playing SWTOR. If using time cards they do not need your credit card details AT ALL. The 30 days should be enough to get you through
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
WoW did not include a game card with retail boxes. WoW includes 30 days sub which requires you to... sub. They bill you after 30 days.
This is 100% standard practice as every sain person on this forum has pointed out. They do this, so that some people forget to delete the sub and get billed for time they aren't using. It's standard...
It is not a "nice" thing to do. They do it for money. Sign up for a credit monitoring service for example. You can sign up online, fill everything out online, try to cancel the monthly fee... You have to call them, during stupid business hours, and answer 100 questions on the phone and MAYBE get lucky...
Long story short, Corp's are there to fuck you and take your money!
Anyways, quite defending BW/EA. The game includes a free 30 day service which SHOULD NOT require an active sub, that 30 day is an equivilent to a game time card which WoW included in their retail boxes 9not sure if they still do it anymore). BW/EA making people activate a sub plan is utter horse shit. *Conspiracy cap on*, this is a simple ploy to dupe people into signing up for a sub hoping that people will forget to canx it before the bill date.
This is piss poor buisness practices plain and simple, but hey... did we really expect any less from EA though?
Haha, what?
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
Not been keeping up with this thread, wasn't really interested, but I thought I'd throw in my comment about it. I did find it really weird that I had to purchase a subscription before I could start playing. I bought the game, put the product key info in, closed down the browser and went to play the game. Not available. So I went back to the account page and noticed the subscription part was greyed out. Now I know I've never had to set up a subscription when first buying a game, the product key always adds 30 days and then you go back later when those 30 days run out.
Actually, the whole procedure was a nightmare. I forgot some of my secret information for a while, couldn't get my debit card to work for the first three attempts, closed the browser twice thinking I'd set everything up. What a mess. I really don't understand the need for the subscription though.
i don't see what all the complaining is about. Something like this is so trivial and proves my point that gamers will cry about anything and everything. I personally signed up with my paypal and cancelled shortly after. There's a good chance i'll reactivate the account after my free month is over but this is one of those just in case things i do with every MMO. I honestly can't remember the last game i played that didn't require an active subscription to start 30 day free trial.
Honestly, I am 21 years old, only now at the age of 21 and I had some summer jobs did I get a card (my parents gave me a debit card linked to their account up until now without any access to internet, simply was not possible to use over internet).
I used to buy pre-paid cards for WoW, Warhammer, AoC, I did not have a CC then, I could not put down details, and I certainly enjoyed my 30 days free without any info.
Can this be a EU vs US thing?
Also noted that few posts going back and forth are from US (that had to put CC info) to EU (that didn't)
So far I'd give Bioware the title of the scammer of the year. First the artifical queues at servers to make people spread evenly, then the "servers overloaded" excuse to stop people posting on their forums - but the "pay us to get what you already paid for" is really the best.
I don't get it people. Some say it's common practice. No it is not. I haven't seen it in WOW, AoC, or LOTRO. You just bought the game, stamped in your code, you got your game time and no credit card number, paypal or prepaid cards were needed.
They say they would not bill you until the 30 days are over.
Well lets just ignore the fact that people posted they were billed immediatelly, for the moment, but if this is true why the heck do they need the card number in advance? They do not need it and they will not get it, period. I liked the game even if it's very wowlike, I liked it despite the bugs everywhere but no I'm not going to let them manipulate me like that. If they get used to the fact that people will sheep away and do what they want, well good for them and damn bad for us.
I'm really really sorry that I bought the game and if I could get my money back I'd go for it immediatelly. Very disapointed.
I don't understand these threads. Unless you are new to MMO's then you know this is how a pay to play MMO works all the way up to the point where they throw in the free trials and or go free to play.
All I can say is welcome to MMO's and I hope you enjoy your stay.
Honestly, I am 21 years old, only now at the age of 21 and I had some summer jobs did I get a card (my parents gave me a debit card linked to their account up until now without any access to internet, simply was not possible to use over internet).
I used to buy pre-paid cards for WoW, Warhammer, AoC, I did not have a CC then, I could not put down details, and I certainly enjoyed my 30 days free without any info.
Can this be a EU vs US thing?
Also noted that few posts going back and forth are from US (that had to put CC info) to EU (that didn't)
Honestly, I am 21 years old, only now at the age of 21 and I had some summer jobs did I get a card (my parents gave me a debit card linked to their account up until now without any access to internet, simply was not possible to use over internet).
I used to buy pre-paid cards for WoW, Warhammer, AoC, I did not have a CC then, I could not put down details, and I certainly enjoyed my 30 days free without any info.
Can this be a EU vs US thing?
Also noted that few posts going back and forth are from US (that had to put CC info) to EU (that didn't)
It seems like it. I am from the UK
I do have to ability to open profiles and see that, hence my comment
Honestly, I am 21 years old, only now at the age of 21 and I had some summer jobs did I get a card (my parents gave me a debit card linked to their account up until now without any access to internet, simply was not possible to use over internet).
I used to buy pre-paid cards for WoW, Warhammer, AoC, I did not have a CC then, I could not put down details, and I certainly enjoyed my 30 days free without any info.
Can this be a EU vs US thing?
Also noted that few posts going back and forth are from US (that had to put CC info) to EU (that didn't)
It seems like it. I am from the UK
I do have to ability to open profiles and see that, hence my comment
I'm an Aussie who lives in the UK, I have had to put credit card info in to register an account in both Australia and the UK.
More importantly, the links I posted above for LOTRO was a UK website, so obviously it is common practise in the UK as well.
Honestly, I am 21 years old, only now at the age of 21 and I had some summer jobs did I get a card (my parents gave me a debit card linked to their account up until now without any access to internet, simply was not possible to use over internet).
I used to buy pre-paid cards for WoW, Warhammer, AoC, I did not have a CC then, I could not put down details, and I certainly enjoyed my 30 days free without any info.
Can this be a EU vs US thing?
Also noted that few posts going back and forth are from US (that had to put CC info) to EU (that didn't)
It seems like it. I am from the UK
I do have to ability to open profiles and see that, hence my comment
I'm an Aussie who lives in the UK, I have had to put credit card info in to register an account in both Australia and the UK.
More importantly, the links I posted above for LOTRO was a UK website, so obviously it is common practise in the UK as well.
I definatly did not need to enter CC details in that as I was going for a LT subscription and bought it before the 30 days was up.. If I needed to enter CC details straight away then I would have bought the LT subscription straight away. It was handled via Codemasters Online Gaming (COG) not Turbine. You could still access the Turbine (US) servers from the UK if you wanted to
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So you played WoW in 2011? When they now have the free until 20 crap. Your story just keeps getting more and more twisted. Everyone who played these games at launch is telling you that you are full of it.
Oh look, a thread about LOTRO!
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?355719-Free-gameplay-time-stacking-Cancelling-subscription-cost-and-buying-Character-slots&s=ae55a698f147d9ca1a8a70eaa43627f3&p=4965155#post4965155
Here is my favourite line ' The site insisted that I enter my credit card and choose a subscription plan (1 month/3month/etc.). I shrugged and did it, planning to cancel that as soon as possible in favor of the free-to-play'.
Oh look, a developer FAQ from Conan!
http://aoc.wikia.com/wiki/Developer_Quotes/Single_Player
Check out this line - 'You will have to enter your credit card, and also gain access to the full month of free play time in the MMO part of the game.'
But hey, I am sure we are all wrong and you magically got access to these games without using a credit card.
Please stop telling lies. Everyone knows you are full of hot air. All the Triple A monthly sub MMOs that didnt have a F2P option at the time have required a credit card to be entered at the account creation stage. You cannot get into the game without an account, so you had to put your valid credit card details in, they would even do a quick check to make sure it was a valid credit card.
So whats your new excuse?
Oh ok that sounds alot different than no other MMO has ever made you enter your info setting up an account and that EA/Bioware is the "First" company ever to do it. So I guess you could say you are speaking from very very limited experience.
No I played WOW in Dec 2010. F2P thing to 20 did not come into effect until mid 2011, and was not about last year
I definately did not enter any credit card details with LOTRO on release, and just bought the LT sub within the month. But then it was Codemasters and not Turbine
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I am speaking from loads of experience. Nothing from recent years requires it, and all the other stuff is so long ago, I do not remember, and neither do you.
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I have not been charged for the 30 days. Just because you have to put in your credit card info, it does not mean that they charge you right away. I see no problem. Just another troll.
Really so because you can't remember things past a couple years no one can? I can remember plain as day. I think you are just dense seriously. Just admit you where wrong it will be ok people would respect what you have to say more then when you tell lie's and then act like you know what people can remember when you have several people telling you exact MMO's and even posting you links to MMO's that did it.
You won't be saying that when you fin your account hacked, and someone ends up using your cc
The problem is that if you wanted to use time cards, instead of a CC, then they still count down your 30 days, and lock you out of the game. I have ordered 2 60 day time cards ages ago, but the shop I bought them from ran out before they sent mine, I do not see myself getting them until early to mid January now, and because of this stupid rule I can not play the game until they arrive.
I did not enter the game registartion code to mine, but from what I can tell the OP did.
This is not a troll at all, it is a very valid complaint.
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I remember, but your memory has turned out to be rather selective. Looking at your sig, you played a lot of SWG... guess what? Even that required a credit card for setup!
"This game is played online only; you'll need an Internet connection, plus a credit card for registration. A monthly subscription fee, payable by credit card, is applicable" - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Wars-Galaxies-Empire-Divided/dp/B0000694YE
I remember that one too, along with every other SoE MMO since EQ1, which all required credit cards for registration (until some went F2P like EQ2).
You are just a lying SWG troll who has been found out and is backpedalling fast. You think this game is responsible for shutting down your favourite MMO so you are out to bash it anyway you can, even though its all just lies. Anyone who has played a SoE MMO and complains about another being exploitative and money grabbing are just... lol.
errr which Europe are you from?
BBC News; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5380718.stm
Unsecured UK lending, such as credit cards, was £216bn ($408bn; 319bn euros) in 2005 - more than a third of all new non-mortgage borrowing in Europe.
"you where wrong"? Should be "you were wrong" If you are going to call people dense, at least spell right!
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Figures.
I have bought loads of SWG accounts in recent years, and none of them required a credit card upon entering the registration code. I remember that well indeed, as entered loads of them
Why has Bioware suddenly decided to to back to the dark ages, when there are more hackers about these days?
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That doesn't even make sense what does hackers have to do with any of this? I mean you would be in the same situation entering the card now as you would be entering it a month from now. Anyways Im outtie going to go watch a movie your too easy and not even a worthy troll.
You do not need to enter CC details if you enter time cards,
I have ordered 2 60 day timecards but I have not got them yet. No timecards = no playing SWTOR. If using time cards they do not need your credit card details AT ALL. The 30 days should be enough to get you through
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WoW did not include a game card with retail boxes. WoW includes 30 days sub which requires you to... sub. They bill you after 30 days.
This is 100% standard practice as every sain person on this forum has pointed out. They do this, so that some people forget to delete the sub and get billed for time they aren't using. It's standard...
It is not a "nice" thing to do. They do it for money. Sign up for a credit monitoring service for example. You can sign up online, fill everything out online, try to cancel the monthly fee... You have to call them, during stupid business hours, and answer 100 questions on the phone and MAYBE get lucky...
Long story short, Corp's are there to fuck you and take your money!
Haha, what?
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
Not been keeping up with this thread, wasn't really interested, but I thought I'd throw in my comment about it. I did find it really weird that I had to purchase a subscription before I could start playing. I bought the game, put the product key info in, closed down the browser and went to play the game. Not available. So I went back to the account page and noticed the subscription part was greyed out. Now I know I've never had to set up a subscription when first buying a game, the product key always adds 30 days and then you go back later when those 30 days run out.
Actually, the whole procedure was a nightmare. I forgot some of my secret information for a while, couldn't get my debit card to work for the first three attempts, closed the browser twice thinking I'd set everything up. What a mess. I really don't understand the need for the subscription though.
i don't see what all the complaining is about. Something like this is so trivial and proves my point that gamers will cry about anything and everything. I personally signed up with my paypal and cancelled shortly after. There's a good chance i'll reactivate the account after my free month is over but this is one of those just in case things i do with every MMO. I honestly can't remember the last game i played that didn't require an active subscription to start 30 day free trial.
Guys, let me put this straight.
I'm starting to believe the is a location thing.
Honestly, I am 21 years old, only now at the age of 21 and I had some summer jobs did I get a card (my parents gave me a debit card linked to their account up until now without any access to internet, simply was not possible to use over internet).
I used to buy pre-paid cards for WoW, Warhammer, AoC, I did not have a CC then, I could not put down details, and I certainly enjoyed my 30 days free without any info.
Can this be a EU vs US thing?
Also noted that few posts going back and forth are from US (that had to put CC info) to EU (that didn't)
"I am not a robot. I am a unicorn."
I don't understand these threads. Unless you are new to MMO's then you know this is how a pay to play MMO works all the way up to the point where they throw in the free trials and or go free to play.
All I can say is welcome to MMO's and I hope you enjoy your stay.
It seems like it. I am from the UK
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I do have to ability to open profiles and see that, hence my comment
"I am not a robot. I am a unicorn."
I'm an Aussie who lives in the UK, I have had to put credit card info in to register an account in both Australia and the UK.
More importantly, the links I posted above for LOTRO was a UK website, so obviously it is common practise in the UK as well.
This thread is stupid.
That link you supplied for LOTRO is for the US website. This is the link to the EU website - http://community.codemasters.com/forum/lord-rings-online-der-herr-der-ringe-le-seigneur-des-anneaux-417, but as codemasters migrated all services to Turbine in the year, it is all now closed off
I definatly did not need to enter CC details in that as I was going for a LT subscription and bought it before the 30 days was up.. If I needed to enter CC details straight away then I would have bought the LT subscription straight away. It was handled via Codemasters Online Gaming (COG) not Turbine. You could still access the Turbine (US) servers from the UK if you wanted to
Whatever was done before you knew exactly what was hppening, and not left in a mess like here. People are losing the 30 days, as outlined here: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/336464/Locked-out-of-the-game-Losing-your-30-box-days-Read-Here.html and have to contact support to rectify it. Find another company where this situation happened before. No where I don't think.
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