Declaring an MMORPG, which was released just two weeks before the end of the year, the game of the year is unproffesional. Why? Becuase everything is new and shiny when you are doing something for the first times, it is how it stands the test of time which says if an MMORPG is truly good or not.
AoC for example was great, for many people, the first 20 levels but it was all downhill after that.
Declaring an MMORPG, which was released just two weeks before the end of the year, the game of the year is unproffesional. Why? Becuase everything is new and shiny when you are doing something for the first times, it is how it stands the test of time which says if an MMORPG is truly good or not.
AoC for example was great, for many people, the first 20 levels but it was all downhill after that.
The fabled "test of time" that many MMORPGs can't endure is a bad way to measure an MMORPG of the Year, because a year isn't a good test of time imo.
While it's only been released for a few weeks, the beta, both open and closed, has been going on for quite some time. MMORPG sites typically have staff that review games and are given preferential beta accesses because of it, and I don't mean the Weekend Betas that are essentially a "Try Before you Buy," but the betas that are up day in and day out, actually testing it.
So while its only been out for 2 weeks, it doesn't mean they've only had access to it for two weeks.
I like comparing SWTOR to AoC because of Tortage. The first 20 levels in AoC were considered amazing by most and is one of the main reasons people hated AoC, because the first 20 levels were so good but the rest of the game PvEwise felt like crap in comparison.
How I felt when I played through Tortage is how I feel going through all aspects of PvE in SWTOR.
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer). I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:
OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.
SO because of hype and the fact it is new, it won game of year? Yeah ok thats good reasoning I suppose.
I'm surprised he actually highlighted that .
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Again, you are assuming that i dislike negative things said about GW2 unlike you with swtor.If someone says something negative about GW2 and it's a fair point i really don't have a problem,no mmo is perfect.But unlike you, i can take contructive negative posts/threads about GW2 but you obviouly can't about swtor.
Instead of making yourself the swtor crusader who needs to save the day,why don't you write a review and tell us why you think it's such a great game,i don't think you can because you cant handle the negative.
But let's get back on topic and if you want to disguss further with me then send me a PM,i will have no problem answering any of your concerns.
posting history is a great tool and never lies. I make a habit of checking it before i start a conversation with any individual on these forums. As far as my review is concerned the moment i hit 50 i would surely share my experince since i don't believe in half assed and rushed reviews just for the sake of it.
Again we are back to posting history and i have already invited you to link anyone of my post that backs up your claims but you have not.Back and fourth we go but you haven't taken up the offer of linking my post,come on what are you waiting for.
Instead of talking about it,just do it.
Oh, so any review that is not made by a person who is level 50 is a half assed review,you are certantly giving me a laugh today,that's for sure.
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer). I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:
OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.
Declaring an MMORPG, which was released just two weeks before the end of the year, the game of the year is unproffesional. Why? Becuase everything is new and shiny when you are doing something for the first times, it is how it stands the test of time which says if an MMORPG is truly good or not.
AoC for example was great, for many people, the first 20 levels but it was all downhill after that.
Well it seems that a large number of the "Professionals" will disagree with you, and I'm going to go ahead and trust their opinion on professionalism over yours... because this is their job.
You're also igoring the fact that a large number of these same professionals have been playing the game for quite some time now.
Ultimately, you just hate this game and want it to fail, so anyone who likes it will be unprofessional in your eyes. We get it, you don't like it... how long 'till you move on to something you actually enjoy?
Again we are back to posting history and i have already invited you to link anyone of my post that backs up your claims but you have not.Back and fourth we go but you haven't taken up the offer of linking my post,come on what are you waiting for.
Instead of talking about it,just do it.
Oh, so any review that is not made by a person who is level 50 is a half assed review,you are certantly giving me a laugh today,that's for sure.
Why? when anyone can just rummage through it and read it? why would i go through all the trouble to make a simple point that you are a hypocrite? *shrugs*
So what do you consider a full review? playing till lvl 20 and talk about things i never experinced? that is why i am looking forward to IGN review because they won't give final scores till they progress their character beyond first 20 lvls to get a good idea of over all game and content. it is 8 pages long and still work in progress.
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Declaring an MMORPG, which was released just two weeks before the end of the year, the game of the year is unproffesional. Why? Becuase everything is new and shiny when you are doing something for the first times, it is how it stands the test of time which says if an MMORPG is truly good or not.
AoC for example was great, for many people, the first 20 levels but it was all downhill after that.
Well it seems that a large number of the "Professionals" will disagree with you, and I'm going to go ahead and trust their opinion on professionalism over yours... because this is their job.
You're also igoring the fact that a large number of these same professionals have been playing the game for quite some time now.
Ultimately, you just hate this game and want it to fail, so anyone who likes it will be unprofessional in your eyes. We get it, you don't like it... how long 'till you move on to something you actually enjoy?
You are joking, right? What makes someone an "MMORPG Professional"? Is it because they write articles about them for gaming websites? I would be willing to bet that I have more game-playing and technology experience than most of the people who write on these sites. I'd bet there are many members of MMORPG.com who are the same as me.
Perhaps you should start questioning the way you assign weight to people's opinions. Calling them a professional because they write articles on a gaming website is ludicrous. Hell, many of us write more on these forums every month than these MMO gaming review sites do.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
[Mod Edit] what's up with all that disagreeing? as said above, there haven't been alot of MMO releases in 2k11, so obviously: ToR is the best MMO of 2011 ^^ why disagree on that statement? all the others (who wanted to release in 2011) failed to achieve that goal, and delayed their games for 2012, doesn't make ToR any worse tho ^^ just shows the advantage of having EA on board *runs for cover*
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer). I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:
OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.
Hey the dude doesn't deny they wern't payed off to name it game of the year just says it sarcasticly to make it look like they wern't.
Pretty stupid that a game that releases 10 days before the end of the year wins 'game of the year' - would be less of an issue if it released a few months earlier but thats like some football guy plays 1 game at the end of the season and wins sportsman of the year.
Rift should be game of the year only because its been out for like over half the year and really not much else mmowise appeared.
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer). I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:
OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.
Hey the dude doesn't deny they wern't payed off to name it game of the year just says it sarcasticly to make it look like they wern't.
Pretty stupid that a game that releases 10 days before the end of the year wins 'game of the year' - would be less of an issue if it released a few months earlier but thats like some football guy plays 1 game at the end of the season and wins sportsman of the year.
Rift should be game of the year only because its been out for like over half the year and really not much else mmowise appeared.
Except that they've (the staff) probably been playing the game for a long while in the betas. Not just the public ones, either.
Declaring an MMORPG, which was released just two weeks before the end of the year, the game of the year is unproffesional. Why? Becuase everything is new and shiny when you are doing something for the first times, it is how it stands the test of time which says if an MMORPG is truly good or not.
AoC for example was great, for many people, the first 20 levels but it was all downhill after that.
Well it seems that a large number of the "Professionals" will disagree with you, and I'm going to go ahead and trust their opinion on professionalism over yours... because this is their job.
You're also igoring the fact that a large number of these same professionals have been playing the game for quite some time now.
Ultimately, you just hate this game and want it to fail, so anyone who likes it will be unprofessional in your eyes. We get it, you don't like it... how long 'till you move on to something you actually enjoy?
you are ignoring the fact so called professionals get payed to write positive stuff about products..no offense but want to buy some of my cigarettes?..they prolong life by 500 years - i am a professional tobacco spindoctor
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer). I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:
OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.
Hey the dude doesn't deny they wern't payed off to name it game of the year just says it sarcasticly to make it look like they wern't.
Pretty stupid that a game that releases 10 days before the end of the year wins 'game of the year' - would be less of an issue if it released a few months earlier but thats like some football guy plays 1 game at the end of the season and wins sportsman of the year.
Rift should be game of the year only because its been out for like over half the year and really not much else mmowise appeared.
Except that they've (the staff) probably been playing the game for a long while in the betas. Not just the public ones, either.
so it really should have won Beta of the year?
i was one of the very few lucky to test TOR for a long long time and it changed hugely over the beta..beta should not have anything to do with the live release version that wins game of the year...
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer). I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:
OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.
Hey the dude doesn't deny they wern't payed off to name it game of the year just says it sarcasticly to make it look like they wern't.
Pretty stupid that a game that releases 10 days before the end of the year wins 'game of the year' - would be less of an issue if it released a few months earlier but thats like some football guy plays 1 game at the end of the season and wins sportsman of the year.
Rift should be game of the year only because its been out for like over half the year and really not much else mmowise appeared.
Except that they've (the staff) probably been playing the game for a long while in the betas. Not just the public ones, either.
so it really should have won Beta of the year?
i was one of the very few lucky to test TOR for a long long time and it changed hugely over the beta..beta should not have anything to do with the live release version that wins game of the year...
When you get your own MMORPG website, you can decide the criteria of the awards it gives out. Considering no website has a Beta of the Year award..
They've decided their criteria, I'm sorry no one seems to agree with it.
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer). I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:
OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.
Hey the dude doesn't deny they wern't payed off to name it game of the year just says it sarcasticly to make it look like they wern't.
Pretty stupid that a game that releases 10 days before the end of the year wins 'game of the year' - would be less of an issue if it released a few months earlier but thats like some football guy plays 1 game at the end of the season and wins sportsman of the year.
Rift should be game of the year only because its been out for like over half the year and really not much else mmowise appeared.
Except that they've (the staff) probably been playing the game for a long while in the betas. Not just the public ones, either.
so it really should have won Beta of the year?
i was one of the very few lucky to test TOR for a long long time and it changed hugely over the beta..beta should not have anything to do with the live release version that wins game of the year...
When you get your own MMORPG website, you can decide the criteria of the awards it gives out. Considering no website has a Beta of the Year award..
They've decided their criteria, I'm sorry no one seems to agree with it.
The why would you state that the staff played beta so thats a plus to why its game of the year???
I am happy that 'not many' (i wont say no one because i am sure some might) agree with it...
Like Parrotpholk wrote..if it wins 2012 goty then that would be way more accetable...
This is like naming Tin Tin one of the best movies of the year, before it even came out.
I don't agree with this being the best MMO of the year, let alone best game of the year, but well, I guess I am not "paid" to give my reviews of things.
I liked the part about "were we paid off?" "no, it was a hard choice". They were paid off.. lol, or just one of those fanboys. How often to these reviewers even play a game? I remember that in FFXIV there was a reviewer who never even played the game and was discovered through her(his) account activity by players in which it showed they played 5 minutes of the game.
This game is the game of the year as much as "Tin Tin" is the movie of the year.
I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but SWTOR won "game of the year" on a number of well known gaming sites (including Massively and Ten Ton Hammer). I thought massively's take on the haters was pretty entertaining:
OMG this game just launched! How can we possibly rate this the game of the year! We must be paid off! Adhgdjhgdudbjh! The fact is, this was a hard one. RIFT launched as a staff favorite in March, but it's both the freshness of SWTOR's launch and the fact that MMO fans have been going nuts over this game for years that combine to make this our Game of the Year. Plus, ya know, it's kinda fun.
Hey the dude doesn't deny they wern't payed off to name it game of the year just says it sarcasticly to make it look like they wern't.
Pretty stupid that a game that releases 10 days before the end of the year wins 'game of the year' - would be less of an issue if it released a few months earlier but thats like some football guy plays 1 game at the end of the season and wins sportsman of the year.
Rift should be game of the year only because its been out for like over half the year and really not much else mmowise appeared.
Except that they've (the staff) probably been playing the game for a long while in the betas. Not just the public ones, either.
so it really should have won Beta of the year?
i was one of the very few lucky to test TOR for a long long time and it changed hugely over the beta..beta should not have anything to do with the live release version that wins game of the year...
When you get your own MMORPG website, you can decide the criteria of the awards it gives out. Considering no website has a Beta of the Year award..
They've decided their criteria, I'm sorry no one seems to agree with it.
And, you can decide how much in bribes.... err... I mean "advertisement".... revenue from the developers that you'll accept so you can give their games a gleaming review.
You don't judge a game on its beta, you judge it on the final product. Considering reviews are usually written sometime before they go up on a site, they could not have played the game long before deciding it was "Game of the year" (again, on an MMO site, it still only means MMO of the year, which is not surprising since it didn't have any real competition). That's not very professional, nor is the highlighted text where they say they gave it the award because it's fresh and fans are going crazy for it. Seriously? I don't put much stock into game sites anyway, and hardly read them, but this whole thing is lame.
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Declaring an MMORPG, which was released just two weeks before the end of the year, the game of the year is unproffesional. Why? Becuase everything is new and shiny when you are doing something for the first times, it is how it stands the test of time which says if an MMORPG is truly good or not.
AoC for example was great, for many people, the first 20 levels but it was all downhill after that.
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Hmm... seems that those "gaming" sites are receiving kickbacks from EA.
The fabled "test of time" that many MMORPGs can't endure is a bad way to measure an MMORPG of the Year, because a year isn't a good test of time imo.
While it's only been released for a few weeks, the beta, both open and closed, has been going on for quite some time. MMORPG sites typically have staff that review games and are given preferential beta accesses because of it, and I don't mean the Weekend Betas that are essentially a "Try Before you Buy," but the betas that are up day in and day out, actually testing it.
So while its only been out for 2 weeks, it doesn't mean they've only had access to it for two weeks.
I like comparing SWTOR to AoC because of Tortage. The first 20 levels in AoC were considered amazing by most and is one of the main reasons people hated AoC, because the first 20 levels were so good but the rest of the game PvEwise felt like crap in comparison.
How I felt when I played through Tortage is how I feel going through all aspects of PvE in SWTOR.
.. But in a good way.
I'm surprised he actually highlighted that
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best mmo of the year and thats not saying much. skyrim is game of the year.
Again we are back to posting history and i have already invited you to link anyone of my post that backs up your claims but you have not.Back and fourth we go but you haven't taken up the offer of linking my post,come on what are you waiting for.
Instead of talking about it,just do it.
Oh, so any review that is not made by a person who is level 50 is a half assed review,you are certantly giving me a laugh today,that's for sure.
Same here,it actually highlights what's wrong with his decision,it's as if he is trying to convince himself.
Well it seems that a large number of the "Professionals" will disagree with you, and I'm going to go ahead and trust their opinion on professionalism over yours... because this is their job.
You're also igoring the fact that a large number of these same professionals have been playing the game for quite some time now.
Ultimately, you just hate this game and want it to fail, so anyone who likes it will be unprofessional in your eyes. We get it, you don't like it... how long 'till you move on to something you actually enjoy?
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Why? when anyone can just rummage through it and read it? why would i go through all the trouble to make a simple point that you are a hypocrite? *shrugs*
So what do you consider a full review? playing till lvl 20 and talk about things i never experinced? that is why i am looking forward to IGN review because they won't give final scores till they progress their character beyond first 20 lvls to get a good idea of over all game and content. it is 8 pages long and still work in progress.
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty -- Mahatma Gandhi
You are joking, right? What makes someone an "MMORPG Professional"? Is it because they write articles about them for gaming websites? I would be willing to bet that I have more game-playing and technology experience than most of the people who write on these sites. I'd bet there are many members of MMORPG.com who are the same as me.
Perhaps you should start questioning the way you assign weight to people's opinions. Calling them a professional because they write articles on a gaming website is ludicrous. Hell, many of us write more on these forums every month than these MMO gaming review sites do.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
Nah. I agree with Gametrailers that Dark Souls was more deserving of Best RPG.
Neither of them took GOTY though.
.. But in a good way.
[Mod Edit] what's up with all that disagreeing? as said above, there haven't been alot of MMO releases in 2k11, so obviously: ToR is the best MMO of 2011 ^^ why disagree on that statement? all the others (who wanted to release in 2011) failed to achieve that goal, and delayed their games for 2012, doesn't make ToR any worse tho ^^ just shows the advantage of having EA on board *runs for cover*
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Hey the dude doesn't deny they wern't payed off to name it game of the year just says it sarcasticly to make it look like they wern't.
Pretty stupid that a game that releases 10 days before the end of the year wins 'game of the year' - would be less of an issue if it released a few months earlier but thats like some football guy plays 1 game at the end of the season and wins sportsman of the year.
Rift should be game of the year only because its been out for like over half the year and really not much else mmowise appeared.
Except that they've (the staff) probably been playing the game for a long while in the betas. Not just the public ones, either.
.. But in a good way.
you are ignoring the fact so called professionals get payed to write positive stuff about products..no offense but want to buy some of my cigarettes?..they prolong life by 500 years - i am a professional tobacco spindoctor
so it really should have won Beta of the year?
i was one of the very few lucky to test TOR for a long long time and it changed hugely over the beta..beta should not have anything to do with the live release version that wins game of the year...
When you get your own MMORPG website, you can decide the criteria of the awards it gives out. Considering no website has a Beta of the Year award..
They've decided their criteria, I'm sorry no one seems to agree with it.
.. But in a good way.
The why would you state that the staff played beta so thats a plus to why its game of the year???
I am happy that 'not many' (i wont say no one because i am sure some might) agree with it...
Like Parrotpholk wrote..if it wins 2012 goty then that would be way more accetable...
This is like naming Tin Tin one of the best movies of the year, before it even came out.
I don't agree with this being the best MMO of the year, let alone best game of the year, but well, I guess I am not "paid" to give my reviews of things.
I liked the part about "were we paid off?" "no, it was a hard choice". They were paid off.. lol, or just one of those fanboys. How often to these reviewers even play a game? I remember that in FFXIV there was a reviewer who never even played the game and was discovered through her(his) account activity by players in which it showed they played 5 minutes of the game.
This game is the game of the year as much as "Tin Tin" is the movie of the year.
I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.
And, you can decide how much in bribes.... err... I mean "advertisement".... revenue from the developers that you'll accept so you can give their games a gleaming review.
You don't judge a game on its beta, you judge it on the final product. Considering reviews are usually written sometime before they go up on a site, they could not have played the game long before deciding it was "Game of the year" (again, on an MMO site, it still only means MMO of the year, which is not surprising since it didn't have any real competition). That's not very professional, nor is the highlighted text where they say they gave it the award because it's fresh and fans are going crazy for it. Seriously? I don't put much stock into game sites anyway, and hardly read them, but this whole thing is lame.
What year are we talking about? 2004 or 2005? Because in 2011 this is the game of the year to avoid wasting money on, imho.
What a joke [Mod Edit]
More game of decade then year. :-) Very close in my eyes to wow, closer that I could ever immagine based on experience of all game releases post wow.