interesting doomsday article from 2010 here still think its to early to tell but guy made some good predictions and the finla product does feel this game was probably rushed by EA and dev's paniced and didn't listen to any tester feedback went the easiest route they could to release... and this is what we ended up with...
It's really kind of hard to tell if there is a mass exodus. Except for on the Republican Fleet Station I sometimes don't see anyone else. Sometimes I see two people run by and have to remind myself it's really one person and their companion.
The first time I recall seeing this sharding of the population was in Age of Conan, and I saw a lot more people running around. It's weird. This game is weird in it's loneliness. Thank goodness I'm in a guild and can bla bla bla in guild chat from time to time.
Lately I've been thinking about past mmos, how you would see people out in the world, or how you would see birds and butterflies and insects. Everything seemed more alive. Some of those games are free to play now. I'll probably give them a shot next or something else. I'm feeling the need for immersion lately.
I can barely move in the fleet on my server, and generally every weekend theres at least 2 instances of it. Ilum always has at least 2 instances as well, and we had enough to fill 2 ops groups tonight. Nearly finished my weekly in 1 sitting without ever picking up a single supply.
Cant speak for other servers, but mine is currently listed as Standard and there are people everywhere.
By the time Panda gets released SWTOR will be pretty much like Rift, because of TSW>Tera>GW2>D3 will consume lot of SWTOR players.
Once that new game sensation goes away and these newer games come out, i see TOR having issues then. But they have time to improve this game. Its the one reason i left. They put to much time and money in sounds and voice over and didnt make sure the mechanics of the game were sound first. SO much stuff is in need of help and the game seriously lacks features that are needed in a mmorpg.
I would say to judge for yourself... It is VERY obvious some people here have an agenda to make people believe SWTOR is doing just peachy, when the reality is quite a different story.
In my experience starting about 2 weeks ago, I started to notice that even when my servers claimed they were heavy or even full, there were only a handful of players on each planet, none in space, and only around 70 on fleet, and the warfront queues were taking an hour or more to pop.
Don't take my word for this verify for yourself, but before I canceled I spent 2 days at primetime on a server that showed as Full going planet to planet and I only counted 242 people on Empire (all planets, and fleet combined ), and another 187 on Republic... granted I did not count those in warfronts but only because the queue never popped.
And yes I made sure there were no dynamic layers open for any of the planets.
So if you believe what Bioware wants you to believe a full server is 450-500 players?
Anyway like I said it's easy enough to verify for yourself..
Oh and one more thing, when people try and convince you Im lying or wrong use some logic and think about who has something to gain here?
I have nothing to gain by you spending your money on swtor and honestly if you like it Im happy for you.
People that do have something to gain,
VIRAL marketers, EA or Bioware employees paid to spread lies and flame anyone that tries to give you accurate information.
Disillusioned and desperate fans and players bailing the Titanic with soup spoons.
Angry suckers who bought the CE for $150 and a 6 month or 1 year subscribtion @ another $80 or more... looking to not suffer alone.
I would say to judge for yourself... It is VERY obvious some people here have an agenda to make people believe SWTOR is doing just peachy, when the reality is quite a different story.
So if you believe what Bioware wants you to believe a full server is 450-500 players?
Anyway like I said it's easy enough to verify for yourself
Sorry, but this also sounds like an agenda to me and completely contradictory to other numbers and posts that have been floating around. Are you willing to share the name of this so called server that allegedly registered as 'full' according to your count, so that this may be verified for those who want to? Because so far the ones that were and of which player numbers were posted all had logged in players in the high 3000s.
edit: as for people who as an addition to your list might have an agenda or something to gain as well: viral marketers, shills and negative-PR people from other game companies who earn their money if the MMO's of the competitors are doing worse, hardcore BW/TOR/EA bashers whose former love has turned into hatred or who have a grudge against EA/BW, MMO gamers who dislike it that other MMO gamers are having fun in MMO's that they're unable to enjoy (anymore), anti-themepark gamers who strive to see the whole themepark genre burn and wish for it to fail so that the MMO subgenre they enjoy will get a chance and because they believe that there can only be 1 MMO style that is successful, (ex) MMO gamers who're bored but who get their MMO related fun by bashing some MMO's and the fans that play those, etc.
I play on 2 seperate servers, and both are growing. There are over 300 people on the imperial fleet as I type this. Last night I visited 3 seperate planets, and each one had over 200 people on it. The server I play on is labeled as "heavy" every night. There is no mass exodus, nor will there be any time soon. Get over it.
By the time Panda gets released SWTOR will be pretty much like Rift, because of TSW>Tera>GW2>D3 will consume lot of SWTOR players.
Pardon my ignorance, but is D3 going to be an MMO? Or it is going to be same as diablo 1/2, create game and play?
By bet is that there are around 400k - 500k subscribers at the moment, and it's going to be pretty stable from now on, maybe 5-10% drop each month, up to 3-6 month period.
World after world has 50-200 players in them. 3,000 per server is an easy guess. It is doing more than fine pop wise at this point. We'll see if it stays that way with all the little annoyances, but I have been through both the WAR, Vanguard, and Aoc mass exoduses and they didn't look anything like this tripping over players questing and having trouble finding mining nodes at times. That reminds me more of early wow before it grew too big
I would say to judge for yourself... It is VERY obvious some people here have an agenda to make people believe SWTOR is doing just peachy, when the reality is quite a different story.
So if you believe what Bioware wants you to believe a full server is 450-500 players?
Anyway like I said it's easy enough to verify for yourself
Sorry, but this also sounds like an agenda to me and completely contradictory to other numbers and posts that have been floating around. Are you willing to share the name of this so called server that allegedly registered as 'full' according to your count, so that this may be verified for those who want to? Because so far the ones that were and of which player numbers were posted all had logged in players in the high 3000s.
Grand Master Zym was the one I did count on, but I played on Iron Cit and Proph of the 5 as well and both behaved the same.
Does that look like a game doing so incredible? Granted its 2am EST, but if the game is so awesome and doing so great how come there are 3 players on here to contridict me rather than in game playing?
I mean when a game is out that I enjoy you can't pry me off it to even run to the bathroom, much less cruise off site forums looking for someone to try and bash...
Does that look like a game doing so incredible? Granted its 2am EST, but if the game is so awesome and doing so great how come there are 3 players on here to contridict me rather than in game playing?
I mean when a game is out that I enjoy you can't pry me off it to even run to the bathroom, much less cruise off site forums looking for someone to try and bash...
One of them things that makes you go hmmmm
If people use such odd arguments is what makes me go hmmm: for one, this has little to do with bashing but more with discussing the game and game related data, and two, most people use to enjoy and do more things in life than just play 1 MMORPG for all of their spare time. Thinking that people who enjoy a game should be doing that for every single moment of their time is kinda black & white extreme way of thinking.
Servers you mentioned are definitely not full now, not that strange since it's the middle of the night. I don't recall those having been 'Full' the past weeks, but we'll see this evening.
edit: I just did a quick count for Iron Citadel, that server reported 'Standard' for 3am in the night with around 1000 players logged in. If I find the time, I'll check up on what those servers you mentioned will have as player numbers and server status in the evening.
World after world has 50-200 players in them. 3,000 per server is an easy guess. It is doing more than fine pop wise at this point. We'll see if it stays that way with all the little annoyances, but I have been through both the WAR, Vanguard, and Aoc mass exoduses and they didn't look anything like this tripping over players questing and having trouble finding mining nodes at times. That reminds me more of early wow before it grew too big
The server I'm on has around 150 players in fleet at prime time. Other instances (you may want to call them planets) have 50-80 (+lvl30 instances) and 10-40 (under lvl30 instances).
I'm on Imperial side, btw, and running Huttball all the time because there's almost no Reps.
Actually, those numbers I wrote are the number I see on the upper left corner of the screen. Bar fleet I usually see 1-5 players in any instance I go. NEVER there is that number of players anywhere to be seen.
I really don't mind if I have to wait for killing mobs if there's other players around that are doing the same, this shouldn't be a SRPG. And mining nodes in this game are a laugh, you don't need them for anything. If you want to mimic crafting, you can send one of your pet to get materials you need.
i play republic on bergenon(sp?) and even though i play at at about 2am cst there usually is never a lack of players doing WZ. The actual fleet population is fairly low at those hours...usually 40+. I used to be on empire side and it was usually pretty decent population considering the time but switched to republic because i like the variety of WZ that i get into on the underdog faction.
Actually, those numbers I wrote are the number I see on the upper left corner of the screen. Bar fleet I usually see 1-5 players in any instance I go. NEVER there is that number of players anywhere to be seen.
The reason you don't is (probably) because it's how many that's on the planet regardless of 'instance' or 'phase'. I'm sure you know that each planet has several 'phases' containing player to ease lag or whatnot.
It's the same when I'm on my spaceship: "Fury" (SW spacship): 10" it says in the left corner, yet I'm alone. Just an example.
As for mass exodus, most Eu servers seem to have 'standard' load during evnings and personally my server tends to go to 'heavy'. Of course, there is a decline of population however, it's pretty much unavoidable in any MMO after launch.
Personally I prefer not to speculate, rather play the game (or don't play the game for those that don't want to) and see what happens. It's like the apocalypse - why worry? I'm sure I'll notice when it hits.
Actually, those numbers I wrote are the number I see on the upper left corner of the screen. Bar fleet I usually see 1-5 players in any instance I go. NEVER there is that number of players anywhere to be seen.
The reason you don't is (probably) because it's how many that's on the planet regardless of 'instance' or 'phase'. I'm sure you know that each planet has several 'phases' containing player to ease lag or whatnot.
It's the same when I'm on my spaceship: "Fury" (SW spacship): 10" it says in the left corner, yet I'm alone. Just an example.
As for mass exodus, most Eu servers seem to have 'standard' load during evnings and personally my server tends to go to 'heavy'. Of course, there is a decline of population however, it's pretty much unavoidable in any MMO after launch.
Personally I prefer not to speculate, rather play the game (or don't play the game for those that don't want to) and see what happens. It's like the apocalypse - why worry? I'm sure I'll notice when it hits.
I'm doing this, because I happened to buy the game. 14 days till the included time has gone and it's Game Over for at least few months.
And I know what that number means. But to me it's the same as some forums have a number of how many is reading a thread or board. They're not in the same game with me if they're not in the same world with means to interact besides chatbox. And MMOs haven't been like this for years anymore, MMOs these days are a consistent world where ones actions impact on the others gaming experience. At least good MMOs are like that.
Been reading a lot on these boards and on other gaming forums that people are leaving TOR before the free month is up, either be it at max level with fully geared toon players or people gotten bored before hitting max level.
Have any of you seen this on your server or less logins in your guild or friends stopped playing?
No, no mass exodus on my server (Lord Calypho EU RP-PvP). In fact, if anything, I was surprised at how busy the game was last weekend.
This is just at the early level zones. But just this weekend, I found that one of the mid-level zones (Alderaan) was busier than it's ever been in my experience.
I'm sure there must have been some dip, but there's no mass exodus from what I can see - nothing like the "classic" mass exodus I remember from AoC anyway.
I suspect BW's target audience was never the kinds of people who haunt gaming forums anyway, so they probably don't know that the game is supposed to be bad lol
If people are seeing an influx on their servers, it's because they were on 'high pop' servers to begin with. The people on dieing servers are all complaining and the only thing people tell them to do is, "Go re-roll on a high population server". So right now the high population server are getting even higher, and the low population servers are dieing.
Is SWTOR experiencing loss of subs?
You bet.
Is it a Mass Exodus?
Can't know for sure.
Do most mmo's make too many servers at release expecting greatness then over-due it and get 'dead servers'?
Yes, All of them.
We will know for sure whether or not SWTOR is flourishing or failing in a few months. In all honesty, I can't see flourshing ever being associated with SWTOR, the game isn't original enough for that kind of success. I also can never see this game failing, simply because it's Star Wars. The game will just be 'ok' and do 'ok'. Which I don't think was EA's, or BW's intention.
You can't really compare reading a book to watching a movie or playing a game imho.
Even with a "bad" book your still using your fantasy, learn better grammar and maybe even improve your spelling(i.e. you are actually using your brain). There is a reason why illiterate is an insult, while nontvwatcher, or nongamer isn't. And lets not talk about how stereotypical and bad most hollywood action movies are (only beaten by socalled reality TV imho)? Good cop, bad cop? Mission Impossible 9 and Rocky 43? These days you feel like an intellectual when watching ESPN.
I mean sure, there are bad books too, but they actually drown in a sea of good ones. If you pick 10 books blind out of the contemptuary section in a bookstore you get like 5 decent books and 3 good ones, i dare you to do the same in a videostore. There are just so many good books out there and coming out daily i literally don't have the time to read even a fraction of that(and i usually read several a week).
Movies or games though ... meh maybe 2-3 really good ones a year. If you want a specific genre it can even be several years.
If people are seeing an influx on their servers, it's because they were on 'high pop' servers to begin with. The people on dieing servers are all complaining and the only thing people tell them to do is, "Go re-roll on a high population server". So right now the high population server are getting even higher, and the low population servers are dieing.
Is SWTOR experiencing loss of subs?
You bet.
Is it a Mass Exodus?
Can't know for sure.
Do most mmo's make too many servers at release expecting greatness then over-due it and get 'dead servers'?
Yes, All of them.
We will know for sure whether or not SWTOR is flourishing or failing in a few months. In all honesty, I can't see flourshing ever being associated with SWTOR, the game isn't original enough for that kind of success. I also can never see this game failing, simply because it's Star Wars. The game will just be 'ok' and do 'ok'. Which I don't think was EA's, or BW's intention.
Which means the game will end up on Life support sooner than later, with even worse customer support than it already is. Lots of bugs not getting fixed. Promissed features no longer being added. Never see the day of HighRes textures during gameplay, etc, etc.
The moment EA feels this game doesn't live up to their financial expectations, they start swinging the heavy axe through the studio laying off people left an right.
Which means the game will end up on Life support sooner than later, with even worse customer support than it already is. Lots of bugs not getting fixed. Promissed features no longer being added. Never see the day of HighRes textures during gameplay, etc, etc.
The moment EA feels this game doesn't live up to their financial expectations, they start swinging the heavy axe through the studio laying off people left an right.
EA is notorious for this.
And this is the only reason why i actually care how many people are playing the game, i don't need a couple million other people playing a game to enjoy it. But i need enough people playing it that the devs keep adding content/fixing bugs properly. And yes EA is notorious for putting games on Lifesupport, maybe even more than SoE.
And no, being SW won't matter. It didn't matter for SWG, i don't see it going to matter here.
Which means the game will end up on Life support sooner than later, with even worse customer support than it already is. Lots of bugs not getting fixed. Promissed features no longer being added. Never see the day of HighRes textures during gameplay, etc, etc.
The moment EA feels this game doesn't live up to their financial expectations, they start swinging the heavy axe through the studio laying off people left an right.
EA is notorious for this.
And this is the only reason why i actually care how many people are playing the game, i don't need a couple million other people playing a game to enjoy it. But i need enough people playing it that the devs keep adding content/fixing bugs properly. And yes EA is notorious for putting games on Lifesupport, maybe even more than SoE.
And no, being SW won't matter. It didn't matter for SWG, i don't see it going to matter here.
SWG was a differn't game and came out at a differn't time. SWG wasn't a hold your hand easymode everything layed out in front of your face type game .. This game on the other hand is all that AND is star wars.. if people really don't think star wars is whats going to keep this game afloat for the next few months then well I don't know what to say about that...
Been reading a lot on these boards and on other gaming forums that people are leaving TOR before the free month is up, either be it at max level with fully geared toon players or people gotten bored before hitting max level.
Have any of you seen this on your server or less logins in your guild or friends stopped playing?
No one can prove to you that the game is doing well or poorly. However if your are asking for antidotal evidence.
I know that Sunday night there were 250 people in fleet which was the highest numbers I have ever seen.
I know that there are routinely over 100 people on Dromund Kaes most nights with at some of them asking newbie questions in general chat. Dropping in and out of other planets shows slightly lower numbers but still in the 50+ range most places most nights.
I know that Illum (which I hate) and Belsavis both have 100+ pleople when I'm running my dailies.
I know that I get queued into a lot fewer Huttballs (meaning better faction blanace) than I did the first 2-3 weeks the game was out.
All those numbers are as high if not higher than what I saw during pre-launch and the 30 days free period. Given that unless you started playing the game after launch you had to pay to be playng the game right now I would say that at least on Space Slug the game is doing fine. I really don't see any reason that my server which is just a basic PVE server would be unique either.
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interesting doomsday article from 2010 here still think its to early to tell but guy made some good predictions and the finla product does feel this game was probably rushed by EA and dev's paniced and didn't listen to any tester feedback went the easiest route they could to release... and this is what we ended up with...
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
It's really kind of hard to tell if there is a mass exodus. Except for on the Republican Fleet Station I sometimes don't see anyone else. Sometimes I see two people run by and have to remind myself it's really one person and their companion.
The first time I recall seeing this sharding of the population was in Age of Conan, and I saw a lot more people running around. It's weird. This game is weird in it's loneliness. Thank goodness I'm in a guild and can bla bla bla in guild chat from time to time.
Lately I've been thinking about past mmos, how you would see people out in the world, or how you would see birds and butterflies and insects. Everything seemed more alive. Some of those games are free to play now. I'll probably give them a shot next or something else. I'm feeling the need for immersion lately.
I can barely move in the fleet on my server, and generally every weekend theres at least 2 instances of it. Ilum always has at least 2 instances as well, and we had enough to fill 2 ops groups tonight. Nearly finished my weekly in 1 sitting without ever picking up a single supply.
Cant speak for other servers, but mine is currently listed as Standard and there are people everywhere.
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if this kind of thread have been going on for wow for 7 years, and is still going strong, you are in.for a long ride mateon the server im.playing " the swiftsure" it's full during prime.time.
RIP Orc Choppa
By the time Panda gets released SWTOR will be pretty much like Rift, because of TSW>Tera>GW2>D3 will consume lot of SWTOR players.
Once that new game sensation goes away and these newer games come out, i see TOR having issues then. But they have time to improve this game. Its the one reason i left. They put to much time and money in sounds and voice over and didnt make sure the mechanics of the game were sound first. SO much stuff is in need of help and the game seriously lacks features that are needed in a mmorpg.
I would say to judge for yourself... It is VERY obvious some people here have an agenda to make people believe SWTOR is doing just peachy, when the reality is quite a different story.
In my experience starting about 2 weeks ago, I started to notice that even when my servers claimed they were heavy or even full, there were only a handful of players on each planet, none in space, and only around 70 on fleet, and the warfront queues were taking an hour or more to pop.
Don't take my word for this verify for yourself, but before I canceled I spent 2 days at primetime on a server that showed as Full going planet to planet and I only counted 242 people on Empire (all planets, and fleet combined ), and another 187 on Republic... granted I did not count those in warfronts but only because the queue never popped.
And yes I made sure there were no dynamic layers open for any of the planets.
So if you believe what Bioware wants you to believe a full server is 450-500 players?
Anyway like I said it's easy enough to verify for yourself..
Oh and one more thing, when people try and convince you Im lying or wrong use some logic and think about who has something to gain here?
I have nothing to gain by you spending your money on swtor and honestly if you like it Im happy for you.
People that do have something to gain,
VIRAL marketers, EA or Bioware employees paid to spread lies and flame anyone that tries to give you accurate information.
Disillusioned and desperate fans and players bailing the Titanic with soup spoons.
Angry suckers who bought the CE for $150 and a 6 month or 1 year subscribtion @ another $80 or more... looking to not suffer alone.
Sorry, but this also sounds like an agenda to me and completely contradictory to other numbers and posts that have been floating around. Are you willing to share the name of this so called server that allegedly registered as 'full' according to your count, so that this may be verified for those who want to? Because so far the ones that were and of which player numbers were posted all had logged in players in the high 3000s.edit: as for people who as an addition to your list might have an agenda or something to gain as well: viral marketers, shills and negative-PR people from other game companies who earn their money if the MMO's of the competitors are doing worse, hardcore BW/TOR/EA bashers whose former love has turned into hatred or who have a grudge against EA/BW, MMO gamers who dislike it that other MMO gamers are having fun in MMO's that they're unable to enjoy (anymore), anti-themepark gamers who strive to see the whole themepark genre burn and wish for it to fail so that the MMO subgenre they enjoy will get a chance and because they believe that there can only be 1 MMO style that is successful, (ex) MMO gamers who're bored but who get their MMO related fun by bashing some MMO's and the fans that play those, etc.
I play on 2 seperate servers, and both are growing. There are over 300 people on the imperial fleet as I type this. Last night I visited 3 seperate planets, and each one had over 200 people on it. The server I play on is labeled as "heavy" every night. There is no mass exodus, nor will there be any time soon. Get over it.
Pardon my ignorance, but is D3 going to be an MMO? Or it is going to be same as diablo 1/2, create game and play?
By bet is that there are around 400k - 500k subscribers at the moment, and it's going to be pretty stable from now on, maybe 5-10% drop each month, up to 3-6 month period.
Grand Master Zym was the one I did count on, but I played on Iron Cit and Proph of the 5 as well and both behaved the same.
Oh and check servers right now.. http://www.swtor.com/server-status
Does that look like a game doing so incredible? Granted its 2am EST, but if the game is so awesome and doing so great how come there are 3 players on here to contridict me rather than in game playing?
I mean when a game is out that I enjoy you can't pry me off it to even run to the bathroom, much less cruise off site forums looking for someone to try and bash...
One of them things that makes you go hmmmm
If people use such odd arguments is what makes me go hmmm: for one, this has little to do with bashing but more with discussing the game and game related data, and two, most people use to enjoy and do more things in life than just play 1 MMORPG for all of their spare time. Thinking that people who enjoy a game should be doing that for every single moment of their time is kinda black & white extreme way of thinking.Servers you mentioned are definitely not full now, not that strange since it's the middle of the night. I don't recall those having been 'Full' the past weeks, but we'll see this evening.
edit: I just did a quick count for Iron Citadel, that server reported 'Standard' for 3am in the night with around 1000 players logged in. If I find the time, I'll check up on what those servers you mentioned will have as player numbers and server status in the evening.The server I'm on has around 150 players in fleet at prime time. Other instances (you may want to call them planets) have 50-80 (+lvl30 instances) and 10-40 (under lvl30 instances).
I'm on Imperial side, btw, and running Huttball all the time because there's almost no Reps.
Actually, those numbers I wrote are the number I see on the upper left corner of the screen. Bar fleet I usually see 1-5 players in any instance I go. NEVER there is that number of players anywhere to be seen.
I really don't mind if I have to wait for killing mobs if there's other players around that are doing the same, this shouldn't be a SRPG. And mining nodes in this game are a laugh, you don't need them for anything. If you want to mimic crafting, you can send one of your pet to get materials you need.
No use in a polishing a turd.
Next MMO, please.
i play republic on bergenon(sp?) and even though i play at at about 2am cst there usually is never a lack of players doing WZ. The actual fleet population is fairly low at those hours...usually 40+. I used to be on empire side and it was usually pretty decent population considering the time but switched to republic because i like the variety of WZ that i get into on the underdog faction.
The reason you don't is (probably) because it's how many that's on the planet regardless of 'instance' or 'phase'. I'm sure you know that each planet has several 'phases' containing player to ease lag or whatnot.
It's the same when I'm on my spaceship: "Fury" (SW spacship): 10" it says in the left corner, yet I'm alone. Just an example.
As for mass exodus, most Eu servers seem to have 'standard' load during evnings and personally my server tends to go to 'heavy'. Of course, there is a decline of population however, it's pretty much unavoidable in any MMO after launch.
Personally I prefer not to speculate, rather play the game (or don't play the game for those that don't want to) and see what happens. It's like the apocalypse - why worry? I'm sure I'll notice when it hits.
I'm doing this, because I happened to buy the game. 14 days till the included time has gone and it's Game Over for at least few months.
And I know what that number means. But to me it's the same as some forums have a number of how many is reading a thread or board. They're not in the same game with me if they're not in the same world with means to interact besides chatbox. And MMOs haven't been like this for years anymore, MMOs these days are a consistent world where ones actions impact on the others gaming experience. At least good MMOs are like that.
No, no mass exodus on my server (Lord Calypho EU RP-PvP). In fact, if anything, I was surprised at how busy the game was last weekend.
This is just at the early level zones. But just this weekend, I found that one of the mid-level zones (Alderaan) was busier than it's ever been in my experience.
I'm sure there must have been some dip, but there's no mass exodus from what I can see - nothing like the "classic" mass exodus I remember from AoC anyway.
I suspect BW's target audience was never the kinds of people who haunt gaming forums anyway, so they probably don't know that the game is supposed to be bad lol
If people are seeing an influx on their servers, it's because they were on 'high pop' servers to begin with. The people on dieing servers are all complaining and the only thing people tell them to do is, "Go re-roll on a high population server". So right now the high population server are getting even higher, and the low population servers are dieing.
Is SWTOR experiencing loss of subs?
You bet.
Is it a Mass Exodus?
Can't know for sure.
Do most mmo's make too many servers at release expecting greatness then over-due it and get 'dead servers'?
Yes, All of them.
We will know for sure whether or not SWTOR is flourishing or failing in a few months. In all honesty, I can't see flourshing ever being associated with SWTOR, the game isn't original enough for that kind of success. I also can never see this game failing, simply because it's Star Wars. The game will just be 'ok' and do 'ok'. Which I don't think was EA's, or BW's intention.
You can't really compare reading a book to watching a movie or playing a game imho.
Even with a "bad" book your still using your fantasy, learn better grammar and maybe even improve your spelling(i.e. you are actually using your brain). There is a reason why illiterate is an insult, while nontvwatcher, or nongamer isn't. And lets not talk about how stereotypical and bad most hollywood action movies are (only beaten by socalled reality TV imho)? Good cop, bad cop? Mission Impossible 9 and Rocky 43? These days you feel like an intellectual when watching ESPN.
I mean sure, there are bad books too, but they actually drown in a sea of good ones. If you pick 10 books blind out of the contemptuary section in a bookstore you get like 5 decent books and 3 good ones, i dare you to do the same in a videostore. There are just so many good books out there and coming out daily i literally don't have the time to read even a fraction of that(and i usually read several a week).
Movies or games though ... meh maybe 2-3 really good ones a year. If you want a specific genre it can even be several years.
/bookrant off
Which means the game will end up on Life support sooner than later, with even worse customer support than it already is. Lots of bugs not getting fixed. Promissed features no longer being added. Never see the day of HighRes textures during gameplay, etc, etc.
The moment EA feels this game doesn't live up to their financial expectations, they start swinging the heavy axe through the studio laying off people left an right.
EA is notorious for this.
And this is the only reason why i actually care how many people are playing the game, i don't need a couple million other people playing a game to enjoy it. But i need enough people playing it that the devs keep adding content/fixing bugs properly. And yes EA is notorious for putting games on Lifesupport, maybe even more than SoE.
And no, being SW won't matter. It didn't matter for SWG, i don't see it going to matter here.
SWG was a differn't game and came out at a differn't time. SWG wasn't a hold your hand easymode everything layed out in front of your face type game .. This game on the other hand is all that AND is star wars.. if people really don't think star wars is whats going to keep this game afloat for the next few months then well I don't know what to say about that...
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/339443/Video-FollowUp-Guide-For-Enhancing-Graphics-and-Performance-in-SWTORSorry-still-Nvidia-Only.html
No one can prove to you that the game is doing well or poorly. However if your are asking for antidotal evidence.
I know that Sunday night there were 250 people in fleet which was the highest numbers I have ever seen.
I know that there are routinely over 100 people on Dromund Kaes most nights with at some of them asking newbie questions in general chat. Dropping in and out of other planets shows slightly lower numbers but still in the 50+ range most places most nights.
I know that Illum (which I hate) and Belsavis both have 100+ pleople when I'm running my dailies.
I know that I get queued into a lot fewer Huttballs (meaning better faction blanace) than I did the first 2-3 weeks the game was out.
All those numbers are as high if not higher than what I saw during pre-launch and the 30 days free period. Given that unless you started playing the game after launch you had to pay to be playng the game right now I would say that at least on Space Slug the game is doing fine. I really don't see any reason that my server which is just a basic PVE server would be unique either.