i prefer this way a million times over subscriptions, because i can play whenever i want and stop playing whenever i want without the rest of my sub days being wasted. If ANET pull this off ill never pay a sub again in my entire life.
Well thats certainly a pro to the b2p model it is also a con. I've never subbed to rift but if I decided to I would instantly have axcess to all the content they have released since the game has launched without spending a penny more. Now say I decide to wait a year for Gw2. To get axcess to all the content I would normally get buy paying 15 bucks, I may have to buy anywhere from 2-4 expansions. It always gets me when people say well if your bored you can wait a few months and come back and pay nothing, if your comming back to see new content and that content costs money how is that possible.
well if you look at WoW, you still have to buy every expansion full priced for more content.. Rift has no expansions yet, they keep adding stuff to the game bit if they add an expack they would charge for it.. GW2 will charge for expacks too and still have no monthly fees. Thats where i see the greed from developers.
You mentioned you get all content buy paying only 15 bucks and in GW2 you would have to wait a year to get all content. Thats not 100% true. GW2 will launch complete (otherwise they would not wait until finished to launch). Expansions bring new content to GW2 the same way expansion brings new content to WoW or other sub based mmos.
In my opinion the subscriptions here in the west dug too deep into people's mind that we think it is really necessary in order to have good results. We are wrong, and ANET is commited to prove it with GW2
You miss understood me I said if I decided to wait a year then purchased the game the possibilty of buying 2-4 expansions to get all the content for the game is still there regardless of how much content is in when they release a game.
Using wow as an example I never purchased cata, quit after wotlk. But if I had, by now there has been how many content releases since that xpac? and I would have axcess to them. Or look at tor, next month it will have its second major content patch. Under a b2p plan anyone who buys the box say in april would have to pay for the box, then purchase the content updates. Under a p2p plan its box and a sub.
When its all said in done if you want to have axcess to everything the game offers your most likely not going to save money one way or another, but for late adopters its a much bigger invest to get everything the game offers.
But that isn't true of ArenaNet. They have given many updates and additional content for free. A few months before GW: Factions came out they gave us Sorrow's Furnace for free. They've also given us all the GW: Beyond content to us for free (but offered optional cosmetic costumes related to these updates if we wanted to buy them). And they have said multiple times that they'll be updating and adding new dynamic events to the zones after the game releases (also for free). So if all you buy is the original game you'll have access to that all that original content and any other bits they add into those areas even if you come back two years later. What you won't have access to are any new continents/zones, etc. until you buy those coresponding expansions. Once you buy those expansions, you'll then have access to all content from the original release of those expansions and any additions they made later on in those expanion areas.
You're also wrong about the long run. In the seven years I've had and played GW I've spent at most $250. How much would I have spent if I had played WoW? Even just condensing the period to when ArenaNet was actively adding paid expansions (April '05 - Aug '07) that $250 is still lower than what I would have spent on WoW.
If they were generous, they'd give their game away.
They just have a different business model. They're banking on raking in massive box and expansion sales at the loss of sub fees.
their biz model isnt much of the different from Diablo bnet and they have done it too in guildwars 1, i am sure everyone will willingly pay if the game offers high entertainment value.
and if it's not it's just $60 odd bucks, the same cost as any offline game that u paid.
It may seem generous, and Anet does look like they actually care about their game and their fans, however the reason why they put in so much stuff for such a price is eventually because they expect that will earn them a lot of money.
This really. The way i see it it's pretty simple. The expect to make more money this way, simply because the attract people that normally never buys mmo's
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But that isn't true of ArenaNet. They have given many updates and additional content for free. A few months before GW: Factions came out they gave us Sorrow's Furnace for free. They've also given us all the GW: Beyond content to us for free (but offered optional cosmetic costumes related to these updates if we wanted to buy them). And they have said multiple times that they'll be updating and adding new dynamic events to the zones after the game releases (also for free). So if all you buy is the original game you'll have access to that all that original content and any other bits they add into those areas even if you come back two years later. What you won't have access to are any new continents/zones, etc. until you buy those coresponding expansions. Once you buy those expansions, you'll then have access to all content from the original release of those expansions and any additions they made later on in those expanion areas.
You're also wrong about the long run. In the seven years I've had and played GW I've spent at most $250. How much would I have spent if I had played WoW? Even just condensing the period to when ArenaNet was actively adding paid expansions (April '05 - Aug '07) that $250 is still lower than what I would have spent on WoW.
If they were generous, they'd give their game away.
They just have a different business model. They're banking on raking in massive box and expansion sales at the loss of sub fees.
their biz model isnt much of the different from Diablo bnet and they have done it too in guildwars 1, i am sure everyone will willingly pay if the game offers high entertainment value.
and if it's not it's just $60 odd bucks, the same cost as any offline game that u paid.
This really. The way i see it it's pretty simple. The expect to make more money this way, simply because the attract people that normally never buys mmo's