Things might change if companies weren't out to make a profit. You know, most of the people on this forum are all to happy to jump onto the EA Hate-waggon but never place blame on the smaller companies who decide to sell to them.
Utterly ridiculous. The voters of this must be so insular of the rest of the world around them. EA is small time compared to companies like Bank of America and Halliburton
Utterly ridiculous. The voters of this must be so insular of the rest of the world around them. EA is small time compared to companies like Bank of America and Halliburton
I'm sure Bank of America and Halliburton doesn't have the same following of nutballs with far too much time on their hands
Utterly ridiculous. The voters of this must be so insular of the rest of the world around them. EA is small time compared to companies like Bank of America and Halliburton
I'm sure Bank of America and Halliburton doesn't have the same following of nutballs with far too much time on their hands
you sound so utterly ignorant....
people who frequent this site really need an eye-opener.
it is sad and pathetic how serious people take 'video-games', then talk about 'world issues' as if they are less important in comparison.
Do we really need to name them all? You can start with Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3 and then we can start listing off all the failed MMO's they started and killed in record time. Earth and Beyond, The Sims Online, Motor City Online, ect.
You should tell him how many good game studios EA destroyed. I don't want to see BioWare to be the next....
Utterly ridiculous. The voters of this must be so insular of the rest of the world around them. EA is small time compared to companies like Bank of America and Halliburton
I'm sure Bank of America and Halliburton doesn't have the same following of nutballs with far too much time on their hands
you sound so utterly ignorant....
people who frequent this site really need an eye-opener.
it is sad and pathetic how serious people take 'video-games', then talk about 'world issues' as if they are less important in comparison.
Utterly ridiculous. The voters of this must be so insular of the rest of the world around them. EA is small time compared to companies like Bank of America and Halliburton
I'm sure Bank of America and Halliburton doesn't have the same following of nutballs with far too much time on their hands
you sound so utterly ignorant....
people who frequent this site really need an eye-opener.
it is sad and pathetic how serious people take 'video-games', then talk about 'world issues' as if they are less important in comparison.
So you agree with me
Yeah, don't think he understands you were saying pretty much the same thing.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
Originally posted by Cthulhu23 1.7 million subs does not a fail MMO make. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean it failed. Quite the opposite, actually.
Dude, this "stat" is getting old. We're going to need some updated numbers as of April, 2012. I bet you it's probably around 400K by now, if that much.
They deserve the worst games company vote but worst company in America? That's just silly and all it shows is that gamers as a whole don't have a clue.
It's not that they ruined any game. It is their business practices being bad for the consumer.
They have highlighted two major aspects of EA business practices that make them bad. The first is nickle and diming the consumer with Day 1 DLC making people pay a few dollars here and there for stuff which in sum total is going to cost over $100. They see EA as being the pioneer and the main violator of this nickle and dime DLC strategy.
A friend of mine recently complained that Star Wars Kinect costs $200 when you count in the cost of the Kinect. I kind of laughed at this because most games cost $200 when you add in all of the DLC. League of Legends is something like $450 for all microtransactions.
Maps used to be something that was free. Starcraft 2 to this day still makes and distributes free maps. They even support free map development. EA makes you pay for every single map in Battlefield 3.
The Sims is pretty terrible as you spend a fortune on all of their "expansion packs" and DLC elements.
Wrath of Heroes will cost players about $30 per hero. That is steep. Command and Conquer Tiberian Sun will cost about $20 per deployment.
A second argument is made that since EA has an exlucisivity agreement with many sports corporations (FIFA and NFL) they are creating the exact same game every single year with very little innovation and pushing it out and selling it to all of the fans. Because there is no competition for them they are allowed to push out the same stale games over and over and over.
On this similar note they are accused of attempting to take out the competition. If a studio is getting too big and too powerful they will buy it out or purchase a similar studio and fill it full of money to develop something huge to get rid of the competition.
When Blizzard was getting big because of Warcraft they bought out Redwood Studios (makers of Command and Conquer)
When Bethesda was getting big because of their RPGs they bought out Bioware.
When social games starting taking over they bought out Popcap Games
When Simulators became huge they bought out Bullfrog Productions (makers of Theme Hospital) and Maxis (makers of Sim City)
They bought out DICE when shooter became huge to try and knock Activision out of the game.
They bught out the Virgin Group after Ubisoft was having massive successes in child themed console games. For the same reason why bought out Pandemic Studios. Pandemic of course was making Activision titles until this point.
And most of these studios don't exist anymore. Maxis is a brand now, it is not a studio. In fact out of all of these the only studios that are really still around are Popcap Games and Bioware.
Are EA as damaging to America as most of the companies on this list? No, they do not have that kind of influence. Are their business practices some of the worst for consumers? Definitely.
If banks took the same approaches that EA does the country would fall apart instantly.
And most of these studios don't exist anymore. Maxis is a brand now, it is not a studio. In fact out of all of these the only studios that are really still around are Popcap Games and Bioware.
Are EA as damaging to America as most of the companies on this list? No, they do not have that kind of influence. Are their business practices some of the worst for consumers? Definitely.
If banks took the same approaches that EA does the country would fall apart instantly.
This ^
For those that may have missed it in the article, here's a list of most of the studios EA has acquired (it's not short):
You may notice that the only 2 studios that are still around are the most recently acquired ones (Popcap & Bioware). Definitely hit the nail on the head in terms of influence. Their business practices are some of the worste, and we are LUCKY that their reach is limited to the gaming industry, as any other market would have very disasterous consequences. Many of the laws we have in-place against corporations are to try and prevent these types of business practices from happening.
When a company can buy it's way into cornering a market, the ones that suffer are always the consumers followed by the market as a whole.
Monopolies got so much power over consumers in th 1930's that Federal Consumer Protection Laws like,"The Sherman Act" were enacted to keep the corporate playing field level . Rich companiies have been buying political power for decades now to roll back these protections. You can see the harm trickle into every aspect of your life ,even the games you play. Doesn't matter if you are a conservative or liberal, competition for the dollar is a good thing if you are a consumer.
Ballerinas are always on their toes. Why don't they just get taller ballerinas?
I think any company that is trying to make a profit based on free trade and growth is a good company. The economy in both the EU and the US is in serious trouble. We need growth and jobs...
EA I think is not that good however. Because they are not helping the market in general. Buying other companies and destroying them is not a good way to do business and not fair competition. And for gamers this is bad. There will be less quality games because of that. And from a gamers perspective they are one of the worst companies. EA is not the only company behaving like this. But its possible they are the worst. And that they deserve this.
I laughed long and hard at this, then I cried that one of the most powerful voices on the planet belong to self entitled little spoilt shits, then I laughed again. Then I started thinking. What, instead of beeing such dick asses? What if gamers used all their powers for good? Just imgaine it! What could they acomplish? Am I dreamer?........Maybe guys, maybe. Am I an idiot?....More than likely.
I laughed long and hard at this, then I cried that one of the most powerful voices on the planet belong to self entitled little spoilt shits, then I laughed again. Then I started thinking. What, instead of beeing such dick asses? What if gamers used all their powers for good? Just imgaine it! What could they acomplish? Am I dreamer?........Maybe guys, maybe. Am I an idiot?....More than likely.
we accomplish great things...in games. since we're gamers.
we save civilizations, kill dragons with just blunt objects...
Lol good point well made. I have lost count at the number of times I have saved the world or the galaxy or everything else before even my morning cup of tea. By that rationale maybe that's why most of us are so arrogant? "HEY! Just saved the world here! Now give me a new ending to my game because I didn't like this one. Oh! and make me a cheese sandwich!"
I laughed long and hard at this, then I cried that one of the most powerful voices on the planet belong to self entitled little spoilt shits, then I laughed again. Then I started thinking. What, instead of beeing such dick asses? What if gamers used all their powers for good? Just imgaine it! What could they acomplish? Am I dreamer?........Maybe guys, maybe. Am I an idiot?....More than likely.
Good, bad or evil is subjective depending on context, perspective and the individual. A hardcore gamer will focus on things that are related to games. And if something is negative for individual gamers or consumers that are gamers it will appear to be bad or evil. Obviously a company that is making its customers pay more for less and is destroying its competitors will be hated. If you recognize you are paying more for less and have a selfish perspective....
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Well maybe they are the worse, to bad they own all of my favorite games. LOL
Things might change if companies weren't out to make a profit. You know, most of the people on this forum are all to happy to jump onto the EA Hate-waggon but never place blame on the smaller companies who decide to sell to them.
It really does take two to tango.
Utterly ridiculous. The voters of this must be so insular of the rest of the world around them. EA is small time compared to companies like Bank of America and Halliburton
I'm sure Bank of America and Halliburton doesn't have the same following of nutballs with far too much time on their hands
you sound so utterly ignorant....
people who frequent this site really need an eye-opener.
it is sad and pathetic how serious people take 'video-games', then talk about 'world issues' as if they are less important in comparison.
Had to look up the list to see just how EA might possibly get voted to be the worst company in America...
http://consumerist.com/2012/04/worst-company-in-america-2012-final-death-match-bank-of-america-vs-ea.html
The list is hilarious so I'm not really surprised.
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You should tell him how many good game studios EA destroyed. I don't want to see BioWare to be the next....
Looking for good ARPGs!
So you agree with me
Yeah, don't think he understands you were saying pretty much the same thing.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
All in all, this vote proves that making a serious vote being internet only is just asking some kids to rule the world.
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Dude, this "stat" is getting old. We're going to need some updated numbers as of April, 2012. I bet you it's probably around 400K by now, if that much.
They deserve the worst games company vote but worst company in America? That's just silly and all it shows is that gamers as a whole don't have a clue.
Never trust anyone over 30.
Somehow... I don't think this is going to put a dent in EA's sales.
Cause us gamers will buy the next FIFA/ME/NFL etc..
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
It's not that they ruined any game. It is their business practices being bad for the consumer.
They have highlighted two major aspects of EA business practices that make them bad. The first is nickle and diming the consumer with Day 1 DLC making people pay a few dollars here and there for stuff which in sum total is going to cost over $100. They see EA as being the pioneer and the main violator of this nickle and dime DLC strategy.
A friend of mine recently complained that Star Wars Kinect costs $200 when you count in the cost of the Kinect. I kind of laughed at this because most games cost $200 when you add in all of the DLC. League of Legends is something like $450 for all microtransactions.
Maps used to be something that was free. Starcraft 2 to this day still makes and distributes free maps. They even support free map development. EA makes you pay for every single map in Battlefield 3.
The Sims is pretty terrible as you spend a fortune on all of their "expansion packs" and DLC elements.
Wrath of Heroes will cost players about $30 per hero. That is steep. Command and Conquer Tiberian Sun will cost about $20 per deployment.
A second argument is made that since EA has an exlucisivity agreement with many sports corporations (FIFA and NFL) they are creating the exact same game every single year with very little innovation and pushing it out and selling it to all of the fans. Because there is no competition for them they are allowed to push out the same stale games over and over and over.
On this similar note they are accused of attempting to take out the competition. If a studio is getting too big and too powerful they will buy it out or purchase a similar studio and fill it full of money to develop something huge to get rid of the competition.
When Blizzard was getting big because of Warcraft they bought out Redwood Studios (makers of Command and Conquer)
When Bethesda was getting big because of their RPGs they bought out Bioware.
When social games starting taking over they bought out Popcap Games
When Simulators became huge they bought out Bullfrog Productions (makers of Theme Hospital) and Maxis (makers of Sim City)
They bought out DICE when shooter became huge to try and knock Activision out of the game.
They bught out the Virgin Group after Ubisoft was having massive successes in child themed console games. For the same reason why bought out Pandemic Studios. Pandemic of course was making Activision titles until this point.
And most of these studios don't exist anymore. Maxis is a brand now, it is not a studio. In fact out of all of these the only studios that are really still around are Popcap Games and Bioware.
Are EA as damaging to America as most of the companies on this list? No, they do not have that kind of influence. Are their business practices some of the worst for consumers? Definitely.
If banks took the same approaches that EA does the country would fall apart instantly.
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All completely pointless as every douche-bag will keep handing EA their money.
EA actually makes really good games as well.
Other than Journey/Flower, Alice Maddness Returns is a shining example of 'Games are ART' statement.
Dead Space series was also really well done.
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
This ^
For those that may have missed it in the article, here's a list of most of the studios EA has acquired (it's not short):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Electronic_Arts (for some reason Bioware is missing from the list)
You may notice that the only 2 studios that are still around are the most recently acquired ones (Popcap & Bioware). Definitely hit the nail on the head in terms of influence. Their business practices are some of the worste, and we are LUCKY that their reach is limited to the gaming industry, as any other market would have very disasterous consequences. Many of the laws we have in-place against corporations are to try and prevent these types of business practices from happening.
When a company can buy it's way into cornering a market, the ones that suffer are always the consumers followed by the market as a whole.
Well deserved EA. But i doubt it makes any difference to them when they are rolling in money.
People can hate me worldwide and give me loads of money I won't complain.
Monopolies got so much power over consumers in th 1930's that Federal Consumer Protection Laws like,"The Sherman Act" were enacted to keep the corporate playing field level . Rich companiies have been buying political power for decades now to roll back these protections. You can see the harm trickle into every aspect of your life ,even the games you play. Doesn't matter if you are a conservative or liberal, competition for the dollar is a good thing if you are a consumer.
Ballerinas are always on their toes. Why don't they just get taller ballerinas?
I think any company that is trying to make a profit based on free trade and growth is a good company. The economy in both the EU and the US is in serious trouble. We need growth and jobs...
EA I think is not that good however. Because they are not helping the market in general. Buying other companies and destroying them is not a good way to do business and not fair competition. And for gamers this is bad. There will be less quality games because of that. And from a gamers perspective they are one of the worst companies. EA is not the only company behaving like this. But its possible they are the worst. And that they deserve this.
I laughed long and hard at this, then I cried that one of the most powerful voices on the planet belong to self entitled little spoilt shits, then I laughed again. Then I started thinking. What, instead of beeing such dick asses? What if gamers used all their powers for good? Just imgaine it! What could they acomplish? Am I dreamer?........Maybe guys, maybe. Am I an idiot?....More than likely.
Lol good point well made. I have lost count at the number of times I have saved the world or the galaxy or everything else before even my morning cup of tea. By that rationale maybe that's why most of us are so arrogant? "HEY! Just saved the world here! Now give me a new ending to my game because I didn't like this one. Oh! and make me a cheese sandwich!"
Good, bad or evil is subjective depending on context, perspective and the individual. A hardcore gamer will focus on things that are related to games. And if something is negative for individual gamers or consumers that are gamers it will appear to be bad or evil. Obviously a company that is making its customers pay more for less and is destroying its competitors will be hated. If you recognize you are paying more for less and have a selfish perspective....