Well,it goes without saying that issues like hunger,slavery, and destroying the world with pollution aren't even in the same league as ,"EA ruined my games", and if you compare, it makes responders look petty. But understand that this is a Gaming site, not Facebook or a Cnn blog. People just automatically realate news to games, as they should. They are on topic. I doubt on a msn blog about tainted food that someone complains about the pvp in SWTOR. Well...again...they might. Imagine Whirled Peas.
I agree about THIS site. But Forbes is a financial/business site.
While EA's response was in fact arrogant and obnoxious, the Mr. Tassi totally missed the one decent point they made: You're gonna go from BP, AIG, Halliburton, to us? Companies that, at best, did things like gouge taxpayers and our troops for living essentials during wartime?
EA's crime? Making people pay more for less for an optional commodity. Hell, every convenience store in America does that.
I know gamers are used to game titles all being about the same price, but there's no rule that the market has to work that way. In most markets, it's about pricing based on supply and demand. Mr. Tassi was right on that point. You want it to stop, then stop buying their stuff. When demand goes down, they'll have to reconsider the consequences of their douchebaggery. Until that happens, don't count on it.
I don't know why anyone would be shocked at this poll. Chances are if you're a gamer you are well-versed in at least most things internet, and even people who'd never touch an RPG know about the controversy over ME3 (even if at this point I'd be hard-pressed to call it an RPG). The audience that would vote in a poll like this far outnumber the audience that dislike banks and stores.
And while yes, companies like Halliburton have done some really messed up things, people are forgetting that EA is not all about video games. There's nothing "wrong with America" for voting them up there in the polls. For one, people are far more likely to affect change in a publisher through press than they are some of those bigger corporations with far more money and political clout that any of you could ever dream. Further, EA is less about games and more about money; their shoddy business practices raise some serious ethical questions that have a global affect on both the economy and what, as a business, you can get away with. If you think other companies across a wide spectrum of product haven't been paying attention, you'd be wrong.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
I find it pretty hillarious becuase it shows that the voters can't see past their own noses if they think a entertaiment company is the worst company in the country.
Look at the companies on that list. There is a reason why you dont see monsantos and haliburton on there.
And first world nations have first world problems. Id love to gripe about starvation in darfur and rape in africa, but i honestly wont even pretend to care. Neither will you, neither will 90% of the population. Its easy to act superior on a forum though.
Yes, because starvation, homelessness, human trafficing and disease don't exist in America, right? But first world problems are greed, selfishness and gluttony, right?
When our biggest concern is the greediness of an entertainment company that serves less than 1% of the population, priorities are screwed up.
Is it just me, or is this handbasket is getting rather hot?
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
I don't know why anyone would be shocked at this poll. Chances are if you're a gamer you are well-versed in at least most things internet, and even people who'd never touch an RPG know about the controversy over ME3 (even if at this point I'd be hard-pressed to call it an RPG). The audience that would vote in a poll like this far outnumber the audience that dislike banks and stores.
And while yes, companies like Halliburton have done some really messed up things, people are forgetting that EA is not all about video games. There's nothing "wrong with America" for voting them up there in the polls. For one, people are far more likely to affect change in a publisher through press than they are some of those bigger corporations with far more money and political clout that any of you could ever dream. Further, EA is less about games and more about money; their shoddy business practices raise some serious ethical questions that have a global affect on both the economy and what, as a business, you can get away with. If you think other companies across a wide spectrum of product haven't been paying attention, you'd be wrong.
I totally disagree with that first 'graph. The Consumerist has absolutely NOTHING to do with games, and gamers haven't been an internet majority since about 1997. If the site was even remotely related to gaming, like, say, CNET, I might agree with you.
I suppose it's possible that there was a huge social site campaign that got people to vote for EA? If so, I didn't see it. If so, you'd think someone would have made a forum post here about the poll, if anywhere.
I find it pretty hillarious becuase it shows that the voters can't see past their own noses if they think a entertaiment company is the worst company in the country.
Look at the companies on that list. There is a reason why you dont see monsantos and haliburton on there.
And first world nations have first world problems. Id love to gripe about starvation in darfur and rape in africa, but i honestly wont even pretend to care. Neither will you, neither will 90% of the population. Its easy to act superior on a forum though.
well, if caring makes me 'superior', then I guess that's what I am. Tbh, I am proud to be one of the 10% that thinks a gaming company having bad CS is kinda small in the grand scale of things, even if it causes me minor inconvieniences from time to time.
I guess the other '90%' (using your made up stat) is why the other corperations get away with what they do though.
I find it pretty hillarious becuase it shows that the voters can't see past their own noses if they think a entertaiment company is the worst company in the country.
Look at the companies on that list. There is a reason why you dont see monsantos and haliburton on there.
And first world nations have first world problems. Id love to gripe about starvation in darfur and rape in africa, but i honestly wont even pretend to care. Neither will you, neither will 90% of the population. Its easy to act superior on a forum though.
Yes, because starvation, homelessness, human trafficing and disease don't exist in America, right? But first world problems are greed, selfishness and gluttony, right?
When our biggest concern is the greediness of an entertainment company that serves less than 1% of the population, priorities are screwed up.
Is it just me, or is this handbasket is getting rather hot?
Just over 300 million in the USA. Sims sold 16 million copies. That's 5% of the US population for that one game, minus whatever percentage is overseas sales. Do you really think that EA serves less than 1% of the population?
Making up stats isn't good for arguments, try to be factual if you want to be taken seriously.
I find it pretty hillarious becuase it shows that the voters can't see past their own noses if they think a entertaiment company is the worst company in the country.
Look at the companies on that list. There is a reason why you dont see monsantos and haliburton on there.
And first world nations have first world problems. Id love to gripe about starvation in darfur and rape in africa, but i honestly wont even pretend to care. Neither will you, neither will 90% of the population. Its easy to act superior on a forum though.
Yes, because starvation, homelessness, human trafficing and disease don't exist in America, right? But first world problems are greed, selfishness and gluttony, right?
When our biggest concern is the greediness of an entertainment company that serves less than 1% of the population, priorities are screwed up.
Is it just me, or is this handbasket is getting rather hot?
Just over 300 million in the USA. Sims sold 16 million copies. That's 5% of the US population for that one game, minus whatever percentage is overseas sales. Do you really think that EA serves less than 1% of the population?
Making up stats isn't good for arguments, try to be factual if you want to be taken seriously.
I has bad math. Another first world problem.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
Do we really need to name them all? You can start with Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3 and then we can start listing off all the failed MMO's they started and killed in record time. Earth and Beyond, The Sims Online, Motor City Online, ect.
Don't forget SWTOR
1.7 million subs does not a fail MMO make. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean it failed. Quite the opposite, actually.
Give it some time, even Warhammer Online was boasting good subscription numbers 3 months after release. For all intent and purposes, SW:TOR is a failed MMORPG. The numbers are just not showing that, yet.
Given that the company said with as little as 500K subscriber they would still be making money, I highly doubt this game will be a fail MMO for a long time. Now maybe if all the MMOs coming out in the next two years ALL manage to create games with as much content (or more) AND as large a "world" (or bigger), maybe then you will be right. Until then, SWTOR is most probably all paid for AND making a nice tidy profit right now, so hardly a fail.
As for the OP. I can think of at least 20 companies right off the top of my head that are much worse than EA. It is fairly obvious to me that the people voting on that poll have no idea what is going on in the real world, the pathetic fools.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
I find it pretty hillarious becuase it shows that the voters can't see past their own noses if they think a entertaiment company is the worst company in the country.
Look at the companies on that list. There is a reason why you dont see monsantos and haliburton on there.
And first world nations have first world problems. Id love to gripe about starvation in darfur and rape in africa, but i honestly wont even pretend to care. Neither will you, neither will 90% of the population. Its easy to act superior on a forum though.
Yes, because starvation, homelessness, human trafficing and disease don't exist in America, right? But first world problems are greed, selfishness and gluttony, right?
When our biggest concern is the greediness of an entertainment company that serves less than 1% of the population, priorities are screwed up.
Is it just me, or is this handbasket is getting rather hot?
Just over 300 million in the USA. Sims sold 16 million copies. That's 5% of the US population for that one game, minus whatever percentage is overseas sales. Do you really think that EA serves less than 1% of the population?
Making up stats isn't good for arguments, try to be factual if you want to be taken seriously.
Damn...whole 5%? that clearly gives it precedent over all other serious issues in USA.
Do we really need to name them all? You can start with Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3 and then we can start listing off all the failed MMO's they started and killed in record time. Earth and Beyond, The Sims Online, Motor City Online, ect.
Don't forget SWTOR
1.7 million subs does not a fail MMO make. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean it failed. Quite the opposite, actually.
Give it some time, even Warhammer Online was boasting good subscription numbers 3 months after release. For all intent and purposes, SW:TOR is a failed MMORPG. The numbers are just not showing that, yet.
Given that the company said with as little as 500K subscriber they would still be making money, I highly doubt this game will be a fail MMO for a long time. Now maybe if all the MMOs coming out in the next two years ALL manage to create games with as much content (or more) AND as large a "world" (or bigger), maybe then you will be right. Until then, SWTOR is most probably all paid for AND making a nice tidy profit right now, so hardly a fail.
As for the OP. I can think of at least 20 companies right off the top of my head that are much worse than EA. It is fairly obvious to me that the people voting on that poll have no idea what is going on in the real world, the pathetic fools.
EA isn't even the worst company in that bracket, much less America. I've had far worse experiences with other companies in that bracket than EA. I still say the fact that a company that makes video games could "win" that competition reflects more negatively on the people voting than it does EA.
Do we really need to name them all? You can start with Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3 and then we can start listing off all the failed MMO's they started and killed in record time. Earth and Beyond, The Sims Online, Motor City Online, ect.
Don't forget SWTOR
1.7 million subs does not a fail MMO make. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean it failed. Quite the opposite, actually.
Give it some time, even Warhammer Online was boasting good subscription numbers 3 months after release. For all intent and purposes, SW:TOR is a failed MMORPG. The numbers are just not showing that, yet.
Given that the company said with as little as 500K subscriber they would still be making money, I highly doubt this game will be a fail MMO for a long time. Now maybe if all the MMOs coming out in the next two years ALL manage to create games with as much content (or more) AND as large a "world" (or bigger), maybe then you will be right. Until then, SWTOR is most probably all paid for AND making a nice tidy profit right now, so hardly a fail.
As for the OP. I can think of at least 20 companies right off the top of my head that are much worse than EA. It is fairly obvious to me that the people voting on that poll have no idea what is going on in the real world, the pathetic fools.
Sorry, anyone who thinks EA deserves it is ignorant of the facts, look at Bank of America, they illegally forclosed on houses and threw people out on the streets, there was even a guy who sued back and he foreclosed on a Bank of America branch. They are true scum.
EA is evil sure whatever, did they make thousands and thousands homeless, jobless, and peniless? No?
As for the OP. I can think of at least 20 companies right off the top of my head that are much worse than EA. It is fairly obvious to me that the people voting on that poll have no idea what is going on in the real world, the pathetic fools.
Do we really need to name them all? You can start with Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3 and then we can start listing off all the failed MMO's they started and killed in record time. Earth and Beyond, The Sims Online, Motor City Online, ect.
Don't forget SWTOR
1.7 million subs does not a fail MMO make. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean it failed. Quite the opposite, actually.
Give it some time, even Warhammer Online was boasting good subscription numbers 3 months after release. For all intent and purposes, SW:TOR is a failed MMORPG. The numbers are just not showing that, yet.
Given that the company said with as little as 500K subscriber they would still be making money, I highly doubt this game will be a fail MMO for a long time. Now maybe if all the MMOs coming out in the next two years ALL manage to create games with as much content (or more) AND as large a "world" (or bigger), maybe then you will be right. Until then, SWTOR is most probably all paid for AND making a nice tidy profit right now, so hardly a fail.
As for the OP. I can think of at least 20 companies right off the top of my head that are much worse than EA. It is fairly obvious to me that the people voting on that poll have no idea what is going on in the real world, the pathetic fools.
Name them, please.
Bank Of Ameirca
JP Morgan chase.
AT&T Mobility
LA Department Of Water and Power
United Health
American Airlines
Comcast
Delta
Pepco
pacific Gas and Electrics
There i named you 10 for starters.
I'd go as far as to say all banks, all of them.
Don't know about the specific utility companies you named. PSE&G in NJ was actually pretty good to work with.
Don't know anything about United Health.
Southwest is the only Airline (US Based) that I still enjoy.
Comcast is horrible but they let me cancel my service without fighting me as soon as I said FiOS.
the FINAL deathmatch -- Bank of America vs EA -- and EA won bad dog
Which shows us since there were only two options, what sort of people were voting.
Looks like whiny gamers who were fed up with SWTOR, and ME3's ending.
Yeah, their crying is in some way equal to the pain and suffering of people being homeless, without food or shelter or family, all because of Bank of America.
the FINAL deathmatch -- Bank of America vs EA -- and EA won bad dog
Which shows us since there were only two options, what sort of people were voting.
Looks like whiny gamers who were fed up with SWTOR, and ME3's ending.
Yeah, their crying is in some way equal to the pain and suffering of people being homeless, without food or shelter or family, all because of Bank of America.
way to go consumer voters, genius.
All the homeless people probably don't have a computer to vote from. People vote on what effects them, not others.
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I agree about THIS site. But Forbes is a financial/business site.
While EA's response was in fact arrogant and obnoxious, the Mr. Tassi totally missed the one decent point they made: You're gonna go from BP, AIG, Halliburton, to us? Companies that, at best, did things like gouge taxpayers and our troops for living essentials during wartime?
EA's crime? Making people pay more for less for an optional commodity. Hell, every convenience store in America does that.
I know gamers are used to game titles all being about the same price, but there's no rule that the market has to work that way. In most markets, it's about pricing based on supply and demand. Mr. Tassi was right on that point. You want it to stop, then stop buying their stuff. When demand goes down, they'll have to reconsider the consequences of their douchebaggery. Until that happens, don't count on it.
I don't know why anyone would be shocked at this poll. Chances are if you're a gamer you are well-versed in at least most things internet, and even people who'd never touch an RPG know about the controversy over ME3 (even if at this point I'd be hard-pressed to call it an RPG). The audience that would vote in a poll like this far outnumber the audience that dislike banks and stores.
And while yes, companies like Halliburton have done some really messed up things, people are forgetting that EA is not all about video games. There's nothing "wrong with America" for voting them up there in the polls. For one, people are far more likely to affect change in a publisher through press than they are some of those bigger corporations with far more money and political clout that any of you could ever dream. Further, EA is less about games and more about money; their shoddy business practices raise some serious ethical questions that have a global affect on both the economy and what, as a business, you can get away with. If you think other companies across a wide spectrum of product haven't been paying attention, you'd be wrong.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
In my opinion the only good game EA made was BF 1942/FH mod...but they sirugicaly managed to ruin it with BF2 and 3...
LoL thumbs for EA
WoW 4ys,EVE 4ys,EU 4ys
FH1942 best tanker for 4years
Playing WWII OL for some years untill now
many other for some months
Yes, because starvation, homelessness, human trafficing and disease don't exist in America, right? But first world problems are greed, selfishness and gluttony, right?
When our biggest concern is the greediness of an entertainment company that serves less than 1% of the population, priorities are screwed up.
Is it just me, or is this handbasket is getting rather hot?
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
DICE made Battlefield, not EA.
Look up the difference between developers and publishers.
DICE made Battlefield not EA.
I totally disagree with that first 'graph. The Consumerist has absolutely NOTHING to do with games, and gamers haven't been an internet majority since about 1997. If the site was even remotely related to gaming, like, say, CNET, I might agree with you.
I suppose it's possible that there was a huge social site campaign that got people to vote for EA? If so, I didn't see it. If so, you'd think someone would have made a forum post here about the poll, if anywhere.
well, if caring makes me 'superior', then I guess that's what I am. Tbh, I am proud to be one of the 10% that thinks a gaming company having bad CS is kinda small in the grand scale of things, even if it causes me minor inconvieniences from time to time.
I guess the other '90%' (using your made up stat) is why the other corperations get away with what they do though.
I rather see Activision crash and burn before EA.
Just over 300 million in the USA. Sims sold 16 million copies. That's 5% of the US population for that one game, minus whatever percentage is overseas sales. Do you really think that EA serves less than 1% of the population?
Making up stats isn't good for arguments, try to be factual if you want to be taken seriously.
I has bad math. Another first world problem.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
What?...lol
I have all the BF 1942 and expansions right here next to me
WoW 4ys,EVE 4ys,EU 4ys
FH1942 best tanker for 4years
Playing WWII OL for some years untill now
many other for some months
Yer bad at Math? Well I guess that makes 3 of us!
And they were made (developed) by DICE.
They were distributed (published) by EA.
Given that the company said with as little as 500K subscriber they would still be making money, I highly doubt this game will be a fail MMO for a long time. Now maybe if all the MMOs coming out in the next two years ALL manage to create games with as much content (or more) AND as large a "world" (or bigger), maybe then you will be right. Until then, SWTOR is most probably all paid for AND making a nice tidy profit right now, so hardly a fail.
As for the OP. I can think of at least 20 companies right off the top of my head that are much worse than EA. It is fairly obvious to me that the people voting on that poll have no idea what is going on in the real world, the pathetic fools.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
Damn...whole 5%? that clearly gives it precedent over all other serious issues in USA.
Name them, please.
EA isn't even the worst company in that bracket, much less America. I've had far worse experiences with other companies in that bracket than EA. I still say the fact that a company that makes video games could "win" that competition reflects more negatively on the people voting than it does EA.
Sure ubisoft & activision pull worse drm crap
And Sony has a bad simmilar rep for buying up great dev houses then killing them
But ea does both and other stuff like banning people from games over forum posts.
However zynga is the worst of the worst imo, with their screwing of customers and ripping off the ideas of small indie devs
But.... the most evil company in America, what about the various banks, what about these mercenary companies like blackwater? It's ridiculous.
The poll was flawed anyway
Sony and at&t aren't even american, Sony being Japanese and at&t being wholly owned by British telecom
Bank Of Ameirca
JP Morgan chase.
AT&T Mobility
LA Department Of Water and Power
United Health
American Airlines
Comcast
Delta
Pepco
pacific Gas and Electrics
There i named you 10 for starters.
Sorry, anyone who thinks EA deserves it is ignorant of the facts, look at Bank of America, they illegally forclosed on houses and threw people out on the streets, there was even a guy who sued back and he foreclosed on a Bank of America branch. They are true scum.
EA is evil sure whatever, did they make thousands and thousands homeless, jobless, and peniless? No?
then sorry Bank of America is worse.
as i have listed before
http://consumerist.com/2012/04/worst-company-in-america-2012-final-death-match-bank-of-america-vs-ea.html
readers were *never* asked to rate all the companies compared to each other
it was a series of face offs --- whos worse Walmart VS. Bank of America, etc
each poll had only TWO choices to choose from, and EA bubbled up to the top
ROUND ONE:
* Target vs. Best Buy
* Bank of America vs. Chase
* Charter Communications vs. CenturyLink (Qwest)
* Wells Fargo vs. Citi
* EA vs. Sony
* Sallie Mae vs. Ticketmaster
* DirecTV vs. Dish Network
* PayPal vs. Capital One
* Sears/Kmart vs. Walmart
* Netflix vs. GameStop
* USPS vs. UPS
* Comcast vs. Time Warner Cable
* Spirit vs. Delta
* AT&T vs. Verizon
* Facebook vs. Sprint
* Google vs. Apple
ROUND TWO
* Best Buy vs. EA
* Facebook vs. USPS
* Comcast vs. DirecTV
* Bank of America vs. Citi
* Ticketmaster vs. Spirit Airlines
* PayPal vs. Charter
* AT&T vs. Apple
* Walmart vs. GameStop
ROUND THREE
* Bank of America vs. Ticketmaster
* PayPal vs. Walmart
* Facebook vs. AT&T
* Comcast vs. EA
SEMIFINALS
* Bank of America vs. Walmart
* EA vs. AT&T
the FINAL deathmatch -- Bank of America vs EA -- and EA won bad dog
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I'd go as far as to say all banks, all of them.
Don't know about the specific utility companies you named. PSE&G in NJ was actually pretty good to work with.
Don't know anything about United Health.
Southwest is the only Airline (US Based) that I still enjoy.
Comcast is horrible but they let me cancel my service without fighting me as soon as I said FiOS.
Which shows us since there were only two options, what sort of people were voting.
Looks like whiny gamers who were fed up with SWTOR, and ME3's ending.
Yeah, their crying is in some way equal to the pain and suffering of people being homeless, without food or shelter or family, all because of Bank of America.
way to go consumer voters, genius.
All the homeless people probably don't have a computer to vote from. People vote on what effects them, not others.