"I looked up the oldest mmo on the list here and claimed it as my first in order to gain clout"
That one is a gem. A title that probably fewer than 5K people ever played, yet every one of them ends up posting on the forums here.
I also like people who rattle off their MMORPG pettigree, usually with a list of 25 games or so, makes you wonder if they ever really liked any of them since their tenure in them had to be short.
Really, fewer than 5000 ever played Meridian 59? I guess I am special then, although I admit I didn't play it long as there wasn't much to do I thought. I do remember though seeing another player for the first time and running away as scared as can be LOL. Only real memory I have of it anymore though...
As for my favorite cliche though, I like "But the developer of game XXX really cares about the players not the money"
From Wikipedia, fwiw, "More than 25,000 players joined the game's public beta that lasted up until its commercial launch on September 27, 1996,"
I installed it and played it a little bit. Too many technical difficulties and UO was coming out soon. Think I went back to Dragonrealms until then.
If it's no open world PVP, it's not sandbox.
Never could grasp that one, but I read it all the time.
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
"I have not done any research on this game but I saw a heading called *insert negative point* and instead of reading I will just decide to never buy anything from them ever again."
"Instead of forming my own balanced opinion I will jump on your post, put words in your mouth, berate and belittle your gaming capability."
Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play?
"they didn't promise better content or better combat before launch, that was only you're misunderstanding"
"if you don't like that a company screwed over alot of people, fine, don't play the game, and don't complain" this one is my favorite since yes we can have and give our opinions about companies without buying their products. it's called free speech get over it.
"that's coming in the next patch" (especially in those games that should have had certain things at launch, this cracks me up. So what happened at launch then buddy?)
"because you have a descenting opinion about a title and the company made it, you are a hater"
"because you've weighed carefully all the pros and cons and have decided that a game is awesome, you're a fanboi"
"all in game Shops are Pay 2 Win" (despite their actual items and that you don't actually HAVE to buy any of those things in real money.
The thing that bothers me is a lot of the cliches used in post writing. For example:
First on my list and most hated:
"heck" -- Since when did this become such an important word to use in every 3rd post? (or the slightly spicy "hell"). Is this trying to introduce some homespun down-to-earthness?
Also: IMO, (and even more annoying: IMHO), TBH (is everything else a lie?), F ex (when we have the perfectly good e.g., ), AFAIK -- all of them totally unnecessary, so why even f--cking bother to abbreviate them?
Other words or expressions: butt hurt, whine, sense of entitlement (though this seems to have dropped out of vogue compared to "heck"), QQ, hater (or "haters gonna hate"), fanboi, L2P, etc.
Okay. I feel better now that I've gotten that off my chest.
Originally posted by TROLL_HARD The thing that bothers me is a lot of the cliches used in post writing. For example:
First on my list and most hated:
"heck" -- Since when did this become such an important word to use in every 3rd post? (or the slightly spicy "hell"). Is this trying to introduce some homespun down-to-earthness?
Also: IMO, (and even more annoying: IMHO), TBH, F ex (when we have the perfectly good e.g., ), AFAIK -- all of them totally unnecessary, so why even f--cking bother to abbreviate them?
Okay. I feel better now that I've gotten that off my chest.
I use IMO and IMHO heavily on these forums. People tend to get offended if your opinion differs from their own and start claiming your "facts" as false. Some also tend to say that you're speaking for other people when in fact, no. So they need to be reminded on a regular basis that these are all just personal opinions.
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
The thing that bothers me is a lot of the cliches used in post writing. For example:
First on my list and most hated:
"heck" -- Since when did this become such an important word to use in every 3rd post? (or the slightly spicy "hell"). Is this trying to introduce some homespun down-to-earthness?
Also: IMO, (and even more annoying: IMHO), TBH, F ex (when we have the perfectly good e.g., ), AFAIK -- all of them totally unnecessary, so why even f--cking bother to abbreviate them?
Okay. I feel better now that I've gotten that off my chest.
I use IMO and IMHO heavily on these forums. People tend to get offended if your opinion differs from their own and start claiming your "facts" as false. Some also tend to say that you're speaking for other people when in fact, no. So they need to be reminded on a regular basis that these are all just personal opinions.
Fair enough. I don't mean to insult you or anyone else. I understand your reasoning.
I just assume that whatever we write is opinion unless it's linked or referenced in some way.
The one that annoys me more than just about anything else is the idea that somehow those that like sandbox games are superior in some way (other than perceived taste) than those that like themepark games. It can't possibly be that there are just different tastes in the world it has to somehow say something meaningful about the people who like one over the other.
Okay, so I lied, there are two things that really annoy me. The second being when someone suggests that a game may be worth playing if it was f2p instead of p2p then they are just being cheap and we are repeatedly reminded that 15$ isn't that much. No it isn't that much to spend in general, but any amount is too much to waste. It has nothing to do with whether or not 15$ is expensive or cheap, it has to do with the value of that particular game, not of the subscription model in general. For example LOTRO wasn't worth 15$ a month on top of the need to buy the game and xpacs to me. However, I play it quite frequently now and have spent about 50$ in the cs over the last 18 months and I have all of the content that I want in it (mainly because you can earn the turbine points in-game). So it was worth on average 3$ a month to me. It has nothing to do with the actual expense but of the perceived value.
"It gets better at higher levels" and it never does.
"It's only a beta" and it never changes until launch because a beta is when the game is almost complete.
"This or that feature is coming" and it never does
"You didn't play past this time, so you have no right to judge the game" ... like Oh I'm sorry I didn't know I had no opinion on the game until I watsed 100 hours of my life lol.
"This MMO will kill WoW and be the best MMO ever"
I also love people who don't know how to PVP claim the game is so unbalanced, when in reality they suck.
You missed the one with the PvPers that are so great and never do any wrong.
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
Originally posted by TROLL_HARD Fair enough. I don't mean to insult you or anyone else. I understand your reasoning.
None taken
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
"I'm a pro gamer." <-- I generally translate this as "I don't have a life.", or other things not fit to print here.
"My guild and I have decided to leave until they fix all the problems." Despite how *I* may feel about the game or company in question, this one usually prompts a "Okay, have fun kids!" reaction in me. The fact is, I doubt anyone really gives a damn about you and your guild in the grand scheme of things.
"L2play nub". Extra points when seen in a forum geared toward gameplay help and advice.
"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous
Also any use of the words Noob, carebare or anybody who still says "Go back to WoW!" Six years ago are on the phone, they want their expressions back.
You get that a lot and you know from the details that they never played beta or at launch, don't understand why they lie.
He forgot the one where they start claiming to have an in on the development, works in the industry, or is participating in the game in question's development regardless of the legal infraction that would also infer.
Might seem mildly hypocritical to point that out, but any who. >_>
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
"You are misinformed and need to educate yourself" - seen a lot on the GW2 forums, where in fact I have looked at the evidence and come to a different OPINION.
Themepark players who can't grasp that their games are culturally inferior to sandbox games and complain that sandbox gamers think they are better.
"Why do you feel the need to come to my forum and post negative crap" - it's not your forum it's MMORPG.com, a general gaming forum and posting my opinions keeps the site running.
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From Wikipedia, fwiw, "More than 25,000 players joined the game's public beta that lasted up until its commercial launch on September 27, 1996,"
I installed it and played it a little bit. Too many technical difficulties and UO was coming out soon. Think I went back to Dragonrealms until then.
If it's no open world PVP, it's not sandbox.
Never could grasp that one, but I read it all the time.
"I canceled my sub"
As if people really care that someone canceled.
"Hey everybody, I'm back!"
Forum wannabe celebrities give me a laugh.
"Nerf insert class/feature, it's way OP"
Seen more in actual game forums then here probably
"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor
‘You owe us, the fans, your customers, the people who make you...’
‘This game is supposed to be about...’
‘Real (or “true”) MMO.’
My favorite is...
"Convince me why I should play this game."
...ahh typo fix
"My immersion! Its breaking!!!"
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
"I have not done any research on this game but I saw a heading called *insert negative point* and instead of reading I will just decide to never buy anything from them ever again."
"Instead of forming my own balanced opinion I will jump on your post, put words in your mouth, berate and belittle your gaming capability."
Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play?
"they didn't promise better content or better combat before launch, that was only you're misunderstanding"
"if you don't like that a company screwed over alot of people, fine, don't play the game, and don't complain" this one is my favorite since yes we can have and give our opinions about companies without buying their products. it's called free speech get over it.
"that's coming in the next patch" (especially in those games that should have had certain things at launch, this cracks me up. So what happened at launch then buddy?)
"because you have a descenting opinion about a title and the company made it, you are a hater"
"because you've weighed carefully all the pros and cons and have decided that a game is awesome, you're a fanboi"
"all in game Shops are Pay 2 Win" (despite their actual items and that you don't actually HAVE to buy any of those things in real money.
The thing that bothers me is a lot of the cliches used in post writing. For example:
First on my list and most hated:
"heck" -- Since when did this become such an important word to use in every 3rd post? (or the slightly spicy "hell"). Is this trying to introduce some homespun down-to-earthness?
Also: IMO, (and even more annoying: IMHO), TBH (is everything else a lie?), F ex (when we have the perfectly good e.g., ), AFAIK -- all of them totally unnecessary, so why even f--cking bother to abbreviate them?
Other words or expressions: butt hurt, whine, sense of entitlement (though this seems to have dropped out of vogue compared to "heck"), QQ, hater (or "haters gonna hate"), fanboi, L2P, etc.
Okay. I feel better now that I've gotten that off my chest.
I use IMO and IMHO heavily on these forums. People tend to get offended if your opinion differs from their own and start claiming your "facts" as false. Some also tend to say that you're speaking for other people when in fact, no. So they need to be reminded on a regular basis that these are all just personal opinions.
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
Fair enough. I don't mean to insult you or anyone else. I understand your reasoning.
I just assume that whatever we write is opinion unless it's linked or referenced in some way.
The one that annoys me more than just about anything else is the idea that somehow those that like sandbox games are superior in some way (other than perceived taste) than those that like themepark games. It can't possibly be that there are just different tastes in the world it has to somehow say something meaningful about the people who like one over the other.
Okay, so I lied, there are two things that really annoy me. The second being when someone suggests that a game may be worth playing if it was f2p instead of p2p then they are just being cheap and we are repeatedly reminded that 15$ isn't that much. No it isn't that much to spend in general, but any amount is too much to waste. It has nothing to do with whether or not 15$ is expensive or cheap, it has to do with the value of that particular game, not of the subscription model in general. For example LOTRO wasn't worth 15$ a month on top of the need to buy the game and xpacs to me. However, I play it quite frequently now and have spent about 50$ in the cs over the last 18 months and I have all of the content that I want in it (mainly because you can earn the turbine points in-game). So it was worth on average 3$ a month to me. It has nothing to do with the actual expense but of the perceived value.
You missed the one with the PvPers that are so great and never do any wrong.
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
None taken
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by all possible means - except by getting off his back.
"pre-nge swg was the best game ever"
"I hate x feature, can't wait for gw2"
Yes I played SWTOR.
"then maybe the game just isn't for you?"
"it's a design decision"
"it's a paradigm shift"
"it will save the genre"
"the genre is dead"
"According to xfire ..."
"who uses XFire anyway?"
"world pvp fans just want to kill lowbies / easy kills / are cowards"
"it's a breath of fresh air"
"a mmorpg has to be awesome right from the start"
"wait untill you get to level x"
"Korean grinder"
"customer service sucks"
"customer service is so awesome! They helped me in x minutes"
"Impression from a long term player / mmorpg vet"
"Back in SWG pre-trammel ..."
"Back in vanilla WOW ..."
"Back in UO ..."
"Just like DAOC"
"Sandbox vs. themepark thread"
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OH! my new favorite :
Gamestop said the release date is xx/xx/xx !
The way mmo's were: Community, Exploration, Character Development, Conquest.
The way mmo's are now : Cut-Scenes,Cut-Scenes, solo Questing, Cut-Scenes...
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"Can I have your stuff?"
"I'm a pro gamer." <-- I generally translate this as "I don't have a life.", or other things not fit to print here.
"My guild and I have decided to leave until they fix all the problems." Despite how *I* may feel about the game or company in question, this one usually prompts a "Okay, have fun kids!" reaction in me. The fact is, I doubt anyone really gives a damn about you and your guild in the grand scheme of things.
"L2play nub". Extra points when seen in a forum geared toward gameplay help and advice.
"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous
You get that a lot and you know from the details that they never played beta or at launch, don't understand why they lie.
He forgot the one where they start claiming to have an in on the development, works in the industry, or is participating in the game in question's development regardless of the legal infraction that would also infer.
Might seem mildly hypocritical to point that out, but any who. >_>
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
"Didn't play it yet, but really this game sucks"
***** Before hitting that reply button, please READ the WHOLE thread you're about to post in *****
Go play the Sims if you want housing
Oh you want a virtual world, play Second Life or Real life
The guy that posts 'hilarious' pictures and memes in place of having a personality.
The guy who is a wannabe 'bad ass' PvPer that thinks 'pro' is the same thing a acting like a douche.
The guy that joins in at the end of a 70 page thread, without reading any of it past the OP, and makes several points that were addressed on page 1.
The guy who thinks that anyone who disagrees with him is a 'troll' and mashes the report button accordingly.
The guy that openly hates asian games in every way, but still goes to those game's forums to complain about 'giant swords'.
But ....the game has "potential"...
"why do males play female characters?"
"If I have to looking at the backside of a character for so much time, it better be a good looking one"
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