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Your crystal ball has a crack in it.
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True, it is clearly my opinion. You can say it will stay at $60 for the first year I say othewise. I have no evidence other than the game is "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind" and hence could easily support F2P. I believe when the initial rush of die hards to purchase thier F2P-style game for $60+ is over, Anet will lower the price significantly on the box.
My opinion, yes.
GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements
How can that be possible? You dont know what other players consider a competition or how they are trying to win when they play a MMO. Any advantage can be P2W.
Without advantages a CS will not be very profitable. Thats why most games with a CS sell them.
if you already like GW2, just play the game and enjoy like everyone else fanboy or not.
If you are on the fence or belong to the hate group, it doesnt matter fanboy or not. Because the game doesnt appeal to you in the first place. Using fanboyism as an excuse for hate is weak.
The beauty of Anet's decision to sell gems and allow in-game sale for GOLD is now all they need to do is add more and more gold sinks to ensure people use the cash shop. A very recent example of what they added to fleece their players even more is make the ability to be a squad commander cost, in Anets words "a LOT" of gold. They basically just indirectly added that to the cash shop by doing this, unless you want to spend 6 months grinding for gold to purchase it in game legit...
GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements
Ya I agree with you price will fall a few months after release.
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Probably because he pulled the prediction out of his ass
Yes, you have irrefutable evidence that the game is built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind, with all of those xp boosts and keys for chests with buffs in them. Everyone will buy those because honestly, who will even try to play the game without those? Right?
LOL you do know that quote is from Anet not me...
GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements
Oh Lord please tell me what you gonna buy that's gonna set you apart stat wise against other level 80s.
PVE in gw2 is about cooperation
WvWvW, is unbalance, what are you gonna by xp boosts that only work by killing mobs, would you like to see videos of how much experience you get from killing mobs, the boost don't stack either.
PVP nothing can be bought to even catch up with skills.
Because they infact id say they built the game with microtrasactions in mind, but there is not one single thing, not one, I mean that shit not one, not one, not one, malfunction not one...
damn item in that shop just from leak shit that you will need to fuck someone up who is using it.
I will in fact donate my kidney, after I donate my heart to ANET, I mean I'm already blind as it is, and I must be a fanboy, but I be damn, if I sit here and watch false shit, it'ss all good to be concerned or skeptic, but I swear to God, thes false ass assumptions, are literaly amusing.
I think while typing, I need some more popcorn and koolaid.
P Diddy said the word himself and no this word does not go to the person I just qouted but it's called bitchassness.
It's flowing through this thread like a river.
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P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Good opinion, but I doubt it will actually go F2P. The price will probably go down in 3-4 months, thats true, but it will not go F2P. GW1 has a stable medium population right now or so I hear, and thats so long after its release and I still hear about people buying it. Not all games which are built with microtransactions in mind are destined to go F2P. (Yes I know GW1 got a cash shop some time after reelease, not from the start. Since it worked out well I think Anet is going to try it again.)
No not EXP boosts, real actual pay2win boosts in RvRvR:
cash->gems->gold->influence->RvRvRboosts = Pay2Win
GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements
Your "chart" is flawed for the simple fact that the guilds who can actually use RvRvR boosts do not need to buy influence with gold.
+1 to you Cetra.
This is what the OP and a few other in this thread should try and understand. If they don't like a certain aspect of the game, in this case the cash shop, then that's fine but using fanboyism as an offensive tool is childish. I don't know if I'm even considered a fanboy of this game since I've been looking at this game with a realistic eye since the reveal. I haven't been all "omg omg arenanet take my money, ect ect". There are a few things that I hope they change myself, but all I can do is hope that they make the right decisions in developing it before launch. That's all any of us can do.
So, to everyone freaking out about the cash shop, chill out a bit, send feedback if you get into the betas, send them an email if you'd like (they do respond to these) community@arena.net.
Maybe you want to read the preivous pages, as your so called logic had been proved wrong.
Put it short: there is no "boost".
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Then why have that mechanic in the game? They should remove it, as it is the only CLEAR pay2win aspect of the game. Many people who are diehard GW2 fans think this mechanic should be removed, although they call the advantage "small."
Remove this mechanic if it is not needed. If it is needed however, then it is clear pay2win.
GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements
There most definately are RvRvR boosts with influence. If you deny this you have no credibility.
GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements
READ the boosts, REALIZE you are absolutely WRONG, shut up and enjoy a brilliant game.
Peace.
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So let me get this straight. Fanboys fanatically defend games because no one can put up a good argument?
Wow, that has to be one of the most far fetched explanations of fanboyism I have ever heard. Good one!
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The mechanic is put into place for smaller guilds, those with less than 10 people. Influence doesn't just unlock PvP boosts, it also unlocks guild banks, the ability to buy emblem armor and other stuff like that.
From the GW2 wiki:
Spending influence
Influence can be spent in the guild interface in different categories.:
Art of War
In the Art of War category, guilds may purchase buffs that are useful in WvW.
Summary
Description
Cost
Required Research
Research Time
Research Art of War Level 1
Increase your guild's skill in Art of War to Level 1
500
-
16 hours
+10% Influence for 3 Days
All influence earned in pvp is increased by 10% for 3 days.
100
1 day
Research Art of War Level 2
Increase your guild's skill in Art of War to Level 2
1000
1 day
WvW Fort +10% Experience
For 12 Hrs, any fortification held by your guild in World Vs World will give increased exp to defending allies. Lasts 12 hours.
200
16 hours
WvW Fort +10% Magic Find
For 12 Hrs, any fortification held by your guild in World Vs World will give allies a better chance to discover rare loot. Lasts 12 hours.
200
16 hours
WvW Fort +5 Supply
For 12 Hrs, any fortification held by your guild in World Vs World will give improved Supply to all allies. Lasts 12 hours.
200
16 hours
WvW Fort +5 Karma
For 12 Hrs, any fortification held by your guild in World Vs World will give karma to defending allies for each kill near the fort. Lasts 12 hours.
200
16 hours
Research Art of War Level 3
Increase your guild's skill in Art of War to Level 3
5000
3 days
WvW Fort +40 Vitality
For 12 Hrs, any fortification held by your guild in World Vs World will give improved Vitality to all allies. Lasts 12 hours.
200
1 day
WvW Fort +40 Toughness
For 12 Hrs, any fortification held by your guild in World Vs World will give improved Toughness to all allies. Lasts 12 hours.
200
1 day
WvW Fort +40 Power
For 12 Hrs, any fortification held by your guild in World Vs World will give improved Power to all allies. Lasts 12 hours.
200
1 day
WvW Fort +40 Precision
For 12 Hrs, any fortification held by your guild in World Vs World will give improved Precision to all allies. Lasts 12 hours.
200
1 day
Research Art of War Level 4
Increase your guild's skill in Art of War to Level 4
?
? days
WvW Fort +10% Healing
For 12 Hrs, any fortification held by your guild in World Vs World will give improved Healing to all allies. Lasts 12 hours.
200
1 day
WvW Fort +10% Player Health
For 12 Hrs, any fortification held by your guild in World Vs World will give improved Health to all allies. Lasts 12 hours.
200
1 day
Guild Catapult
Create a Catapult Siege engine that costs less supply to set up than normal. (requires Foundry from Architecture)
500
1 day
Research Art of War Level 5
Increase your guild's skill in Art of War to Level 5
?
? days
WvW Fort +5% Swiftness
For 12 Hrs, any fortification held by your guild in World Vs World will give improved Swiftness to all allies. Lasts 12 hours.
500
1 day
Guild Siege Suit
Create a Siege Suit that costs less supply to set up than normal. (requires Foundry from Architecture)
500
1 day
GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements
Play with guild > Earn influence > WvWvW boost = Play to just get boosts.
Cash > gems > Gold from other people who will have enough > Buy drinks that you can get get with silver > get influence > RvRvR Boosts
First you gotta unlock the tiers
You also got to spend huge amounts of cash
You also don't need to unless your iq isn't high because all you need is a decent size guild and just play and you get influence
Can't stack the important ones like stat ones
It only effects a keep for an certaint amount of time
Yes his logic has and will for ever be proved wrong but it's why he has his head deep in the sand, he can't listen even if he wanted to.
You guys will almost be paying for an aprtment and that'f if you get gold for the gems you sale.
People got to have gold to get gems, people will of course have to get gems for gold, how ever things in the cash shop is obtainable or unlockale in game as well.
You'll find boosts scattered in mobs, that don't stack.
XP boosts are only for mobs, so if you sitting there grinding mobs but not DE's someone with no boosts will level up faster than you.
Sieges are cheap by the way, and they require supply, you also need supply to upgrade keeps and defenses and offense.
This is just some extra stuff to get rid of any further claims.
Oh also your guild must capture and defend a keep in orde for those boosts to work
Also no boosts give you a pass from an ass whooping.
For got about that heartless pointed it out.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
But the point is, it DOES provide PVP boosts, hence the pay2win aspect:
cash->gems->gold->influence->RvRvRboosts = Pay2Win
GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements
It does not. Because in order for RvRvR boosts to work, the guild needs to capture aand defend a keep and that requires a lot of people. In other words, only big guilds will be able to capture and defend keeps and big guilds do not need to purchase influence with gold.
While I certainly wouldn't base my choice on the forums the op's point is not without merit.
My favorite recent one is this.
Cash shop leak shows xp boosts in the cash shop.
Average forum response "Only stupid people will buy those cause of the awesome sidekicking up feature in pve which truly makes GW2 a different kind of game and only people who don't understand how the game works would want to buy those exp boosts'
ANet announces that the side kicking feature will not be implemented in pve.
Average forum response "This is an awesome change..they took the one feature I didn't like in the game and removed it"