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Let's slay the "hype monster" once and for all
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I have never seen a more true enactment of a post...lol. Ceridith uses the cash shop as an example of a legitimate concern that can be brought up for discussion and BAM - here comes the belittlement of his entire argument on the basis that this is always brought up. Making someones concerns seem unimportant is an insult. You just proved something here. Nice.
I am very much hyped for GW2, and am willing to invest my $$$ occassionally in the cash shop since I am not paying for a subscription (on top of paying for expansions).
I think they should put in a D3 style auction house as well.
I am all for ways to invest my money instead of my time, in a way I control, and have fun with the game. However, I am not in favor of any unfair advantage these items may bring over those who are unwilling or unable to do so.
Regardless of the hype, a good measuring stick will be how many pre purchase units they sell. If they sell millions then it might be more than just a hype (sorry wow/tor fans). If they sell thousands or hundreds, then the debate will spiral out of the control. Either way, the "end game" is not how many you sell at the beginning, but how many you keep and grow.
Uhm....You forgot, he paid to win....Wouldn't be winning, if he lost! If you pay enough, you can make the zone you are in travel back in time, and correct a defeat in PvP....That is until the heal button comes into play that is a '$' symbol in the UI...It is $5 to hit it, and will completely heal you, no cool down, with a 1 second invul bubble, to insure if you spend enough, you can never die.
What if both Heartless and I pay to win and we meet in an epic battle in the mists? We both can't win. So, either P2W somehow breaks the laws of logic or the CS trolls need to go back to playing WOW (where trolls belong).
HEARTLESS! you better be there in the mists!! I will be looking for you!! I will be highly dissapointed if I do not get to fight you and pummel your face to the ground! :-p
I thought we beat the cash-shop dead last week, just let it go Cerideth... Just let it gooooo
I was using th cash shop discussion as an example oh how polarized and one-sided people can get in their views over the game.
I know, but a lot of other people don't
Don't give them a reason to start! haha
But I am not sure you know it runs both waysHype = official stuff the devs put out in order to reel you in
Excitement = non-official stuff fans/press puts out that just happens to also help reel you in
Hype = dev blogs and official trailers/interviews
Excitement = raw beta footage and 3rd party fan/press previews/reviews
Of course Anet is hyping the game, every dev studio hypes their game.
But what seperates GW2 from the pack is that much of the EXCITEMENT about this game is coming from the fans/press who haved played it extensively AND shown it all to us via raw beta videos/preview articles.
TOR's three cinematic CGI trailers = hype
Dozens of hours of raw GW2 beta footage w/ or w/o commentary from fans/press = excitement
That's the difference, IMO
It will create a phasing effect and will make you both think you won! Then when you talk trash to each other, you will both think the other one is crazy.
Hey Ref, Don't turn this into a CS or attack thread, TYVM.
The "Youtube Pro": Someone who watches video's on said subject, and obviously has a full understanding of what is being said about such subject.
closest comparison that came to my mind at the time. these threads aren't too common either. just more-so now than say ebola.
I've got the straight edge.
Theres a difference between False Hype and Real Hype.
False Hype comes from companies that have NDAs up 1 week till launch. Have certain bullet points or sterotypical canned responses in their Q&A such as:
Thousands of quests across 80+ zones; 7 races; 8 character classes; 600 + monsters.
“Big ass monster battles” against an advanced enemy AI.
Amazing and lovely game scenery powered by Unreal Engine 3.
No factions exist in ****, making character interaction for social, political, and economic reasons much more necessary.
Search for adventure and excitement throughout a game galaxy more than 30,000 parsecs wide
20 writers worked together for a total of over 60 man-years of labor on the game's story and writing.
CGI trailers with not once piece of IN game footage.
There is tons of evidence for false hype but let me tell you something about GW2. Everything that is being said about it comes from actual knowledge within the game. How can you possibly say its false hype when people such as myself have played the game and loved it, or watched hundreds of hours of in game footage and like it.
Everything you need to know about Elder Scrolls Online
Playing: GW2
Waiting on: TESO
Next Flop: Planetside 2
Best MMO of all time: Asheron's Call - The first company to recreate AC will be the next greatest MMO.
So how does the "Hype-Level" meter on this site fit in to that definition. That could be "over hyped" as in the meter being too high. Hiding behind a dictionary is never good.
In that case, I look forward to kicking Heartless' CS'd ass in the mists.
Going back to the topic at hand (i.e. hype). I am very excited (hyped) about GW2 and can't wait to get my paws on it. I still don't see why people have an issue with other people's excitement over a game. I understand the whole getting burned by games, God knows I have been burned many times by poorly executed games (TOR, Rift, Aion, AoC, Warhammer, etc). As long as the excitement is reasonable and based on facts and not made up/rumor, I see no problem with it.
Let the negative nancy's of the world pout in the corner, I have no problem with that
It was actually stated by one of the developers at the last GDC that the above mentioned situation would actually cause the game to collapse in on itself, creating some sort of a cyberspace black hole, sucking in everything in it's path. It will be the end of the internet as we know it.
Well, no better fitting of an end to the internet. I say bring it on! I will be highly dissapointed if we end up in the same server Heartless. Though I would rather kill you time and time again, it would still be fun to kill others by your side. Either way I get to kill and be killed! WOOT!
Anet has just recieved a shipment from EA, the Hero Engine. Everything is fine now.
EA Games needs to stop making video games. Unlike Midas, everything they touch turns into shit.
I don't see one. I don't see the reason for attacking, or defending "hype". And I see even less point in discussing the amount of hype a game gets and what that means to the game. The will be what the game will be.
I don't care; put the game in my hands for 10-15 hours to try it out, and I'll decide if I want to buy it. I'm not saying this to sound "superior". Matter of fact, I say it because I think most people feel the same way.
He was on topic he was only using the cash-shop as a means to present an example of the point he was making, how hard is it to see that?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
wow, been in the forums for just one day and I'm already tired of the CS trolls... is there anything of real substance that we can discuss?
Well that was a waste of two minutes of my life reading that pseudo-intellectual rubbish. What a pointless post.
Pseudo - adj
1. pretended, false, spurious, trying to be
Not until ArenaNet gives us something of substance. Until then, be prepared for every thread to turn into a Cash Shop thread.
Wish the trolls would go back to playing WOW/TOR and leave us who are interested in discussions of substance alone. From what I gather, in regards to the CS, many opinions, very little fact. There is so much more to GW2, surely there are more interesting things to discuss
Good idea Mr Verbose.
and this is what will happen. You'll probably see 1.5-2.5 million sales initially. NCsoft will love it, Anet will be happy and those who never really wanted to play the game or their competitors will whine, cry, and bash the game. But the product will be in people's hands and no matter what is said, they will play it or not based on their in game experience. Most people already know what to expect based on all the gameplay footage out there. That is where the so called hype is coming from.
All the gnashing is just the butthurt people who don't like the flavor of the game, or the way they are enforcing it. For once, I'm glad they finally made a game that has the ingredients that I like in a game, it's been a long time waiting for one. I wished it were SWTOR, since i prefer sci-fi over fantasy themes, but oh well. This will do.