Here is a little example of why some people are complaingin about this one. $60, 80$, $160. Only the $160 is an actual retail box, all others are electronic download. A little comparison - not to an old title, but one coming out pretty much the exact same time as GW2.
TSW - $49.99 base game.
+ $14.99 for Initiates Pack upgrade - small amount of nice toys at start
+ $59.99 for Masters Pack upgrade - pretty much your collectors edition
+$199.99 for Grand Masters Pack upgrade - contains the Masters Pack + a life time sub.
So in comparison - $50 vs $60, $65 vs $80, and $110 vs $160, with TSW giving one level higher for the LTS (which if you do the math on it, its the $110 Masters Pack up front + $140 for the LTS). Not a HUGE difference, but it is a difference.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
the EURO pricing is higher (at least when compared to Blizzard games)
Thats what happens when you live in a socialist run country. Deal with it or MOVE.
Like a buddy of mine once said "I didn't like the country I was living in and their policies so I voted with my feet."
This made me chuckle, I don't think the word "socialist" means what you think it means.
I don't think you grasp socialist agendas and economic policies that think the government should control your money instead of you controlling your finances ex. - VAT. Go takes a basic economic class and get back to me.
It is not one country and they are not all run by socialists (wtf?). Don't tell others to go take a class if you don't even realise that Europe isn't one country. There are no countries with a real free market. All have regulations and governments that help main industry to stay healthy. (Would GM still exist without that?)
Also VAT doesn't even come close to explain the price difference. It is also not the same for all European countries.
I'm referring to the Euro "Zone". Yes many countries comprise Western Europe and the majority of those countries are going bankrupt because of whatever degree of social economic policies they practice with maybe the exception of Germany and it's economy is by no means healthly.
But the government buying up so much corporate debt that the USA keeps hitting its debt ceiling and being on the verge of default(like those EU countries) is fine? Its exactly the same. Current USA public debt is $15.589 TRILLION, and there aint no one thats gonna bail the USA out.
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
the EURO pricing is higher (at least when compared to Blizzard games)
Thats what happens when you live in a socialist run country. Deal with it or MOVE.
Like a buddy of mine once said "I didn't like the country I was living in and their policies so I voted with my feet."
This made me chuckle, I don't think the word "socialist" means what you think it means.
I don't think you grasp socialist agendas and economic policies that think the government should control your money instead of you controlling your finances ex. - VAT. Go takes a basic economic class and get back to me.
It is not one country and they are not all run by socialists (wtf?). Don't tell others to go take a class if you don't even realise that Europe isn't one country. There are no countries with a real free market. All have regulations and governments that help main industry to stay healthy. (Would GM still exist without that?)
Also VAT doesn't even come close to explain the price difference. It is also not the same for all European countries.
I'm referring to the Euro "Zone". Yes many countries comprise Western Europe and the majority of those countries are going bankrupt because of whatever degree of social economic policies they practice with maybe the exception of Germany and it's economy is by no means healthly.
But the government buying up so much corporate debt that the USA keeps hitting its debt ceiling and being on the verge of default(like those EU countries) is fine? Its exactly the same. Current USA public debt is $15.589 TRILLION
Yes. U.S. debt has tripled in the last 3 years due to a president and congress that have socialist values and agendas. We are working on fixing that in November. Thank you. your statement validates my point exactly.
the EURO pricing is higher (at least when compared to Blizzard games)
Thats what happens when you live in a socialist run country. Deal with it or MOVE.
Like a buddy of mine once said "I didn't like the country I was living in and their policies so I voted with my feet."
This made me chuckle, I don't think the word "socialist" means what you think it means.
I don't think you grasp socialist agendas and economic policies that think the government should control your money instead of you controlling your finances ex. - VAT. Go takes a basic economic class and get back to me.
You do realise that the USA has something almost identical called sales tax right? So according to your logic then USA is socialist too.
Fail.
Also, Its not VAT which is increasing the price of the EU version, its ANet. play.com are selling the prepurchase for £39.99 including VAT which = $63.42 which is fair. ANet are selling it for £49.99 = $79.20 including VAT which is a ripoff.
It's not Anets responsibility to offset your countries ponzi scheme.
WTF are you talking about? I prove that you are wrong with facts. You come back with some rediculous conspiracy theory that bears no relation to the argument at hand?
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
the EURO pricing is higher (at least when compared to Blizzard games)
Thats what happens when you live in a socialist run country. Deal with it or MOVE.
Like a buddy of mine once said "I didn't like the country I was living in and their policies so I voted with my feet."
This made me chuckle, I don't think the word "socialist" means what you think it means.
I don't think you grasp socialist agendas and economic policies that think the government should control your money instead of you controlling your finances ex. - VAT. Go takes a basic economic class and get back to me.
It is not one country and they are not all run by socialists (wtf?). Don't tell others to go take a class if you don't even realise that Europe isn't one country. There are no countries with a real free market. All have regulations and governments that help main industry to stay healthy. (Would GM still exist without that?)
Also VAT doesn't even come close to explain the price difference. It is also not the same for all European countries.
I'm referring to the Euro "Zone". Yes many countries comprise Western Europe and the majority of those countries are going bankrupt because of whatever degree of social economic policies they practice with maybe the exception of Germany and it's economy is by no means healthly.
But the government buying up so much corporate debt that the USA keeps hitting its debt ceiling and being on the verge of default(like those EU countries) is fine? Its exactly the same. Current USA public debt is $15.589 TRILLION
Yes. U.S. debt has tripled in the last 3 years due to a president and congress that have socialist values and agendas. We are working on fixing that in November. Thank you. your statement validates my point exactly.
LOL The POTUS doesn't control the economy, gas prices or what his constituits do. The President is not a socialist nor a muslim and he's provided his Birth Certificate information on numerous occassions.
But yes.. Mit Romney will save us all.. LOL.. No not really..
This has nothing to do with this topic so I'll leave it alone now..
PM before you report at least or you could just block.
Can we please not have the thread de-railed with pointless political bull, there is no point arguing with either left or right ideologues with the ability to filter reality.
(though personally I get offended when certain Americans dismiss the EU or UK as "socialist" i.e. not right wing enough, as if anyone in that country knows what that word means, I just wish they'd stop all pretending they all have politcal theory phds).
the EURO pricing is higher (at least when compared to Blizzard games)
Thats what happens when you live in a socialist run country. Deal with it or MOVE.
Like a buddy of mine once said "I didn't like the country I was living in and their policies so I voted with my feet."
This made me chuckle, I don't think the word "socialist" means what you think it means.
I don't think you grasp socialist agendas and economic policies that think the government should control your money instead of you controlling your finances ex. - VAT. Go takes a basic economic class and get back to me.
It is not one country and they are not all run by socialists (wtf?). Don't tell others to go take a class if you don't even realise that Europe isn't one country. There are no countries with a real free market. All have regulations and governments that help main industry to stay healthy. (Would GM still exist without that?)
Also VAT doesn't even come close to explain the price difference. It is also not the same for all European countries.
I'm referring to the Euro "Zone". Yes many countries comprise Western Europe and the majority of those countries are going bankrupt because of whatever degree of social economic policies they practice with maybe the exception of Germany and it's economy is by no means healthly.
But the government buying up so much corporate debt that the USA keeps hitting its debt ceiling and being on the verge of default(like those EU countries) is fine? Its exactly the same. Current USA public debt is $15.589 TRILLION
Yes. U.S. debt has tripled in the last 3 years due to a president and congress that have socialist values and agendas. We are working on fixing that in November. Thank you. your statement validates my point exactly.
From Wikipedia:
A socialist economic system would consist of an organisation of production to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services would be produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital, and accounting would be based onphysical quantities, a common physical magnitude, or a direct measure of labour-time.[5][6] Distribution of output would be based on the principle ofindividual contribution.
This does not describe the USA or any European country. The USA is the most profit driven capitalist country I know of that promotes individual and corporate wealth. This is in direct opposition to socialist principles. The only truly socialist country I can think of is Cuba.
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
Can we please not have the thread de-railed with pointless political bull, there is no point arguing with either left or right ideologues with the ability to filter reality.
(though personally I do dislike the tendency of certain Americans to dismiss the EU or UK as "socialist" i.e. not right wing enough)
Now, back to A-net ripping us off.
Yeah, THE BASTARDS!!
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
Seriously, the US President is NOT a socialist, he is a Union boss. Every thing he has done since he got into office has been an attempt to get a better contract, with more benefits for his union members, at the expense of the big bad company that has all the money. All you have to do to benefit with this guy is join his union and you will be set for life....or until his contract gets tossed out by the next dude or dudette that gets in there.
Anyway, that aside, I agree, we should move back on topic here. I really hate talking pole-tics on an MMO forum.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
the EURO pricing is higher (at least when compared to Blizzard games)
Thats what happens when you live in a socialist run country. Deal with it or MOVE.
Like a buddy of mine once said "I didn't like the country I was living in and their policies so I voted with my feet."
This made me chuckle, I don't think the word "socialist" means what you think it means.
I don't think you grasp socialist agendas and economic policies that think the government should control your money instead of you controlling your finances ex. - VAT. Go takes a basic economic class and get back to me.
It is not one country and they are not all run by socialists (wtf?). Don't tell others to go take a class if you don't even realise that Europe isn't one country. There are no countries with a real free market. All have regulations and governments that help main industry to stay healthy. (Would GM still exist without that?)
Also VAT doesn't even come close to explain the price difference. It is also not the same for all European countries.
I'm referring to the Euro "Zone". Yes many countries comprise Western Europe and the majority of those countries are going bankrupt because of whatever degree of social economic policies they practice with maybe the exception of Germany and it's economy is by no means healthly.
Funny enough Germany is a country run by socialists. And its economy is a lot healthier then the US economy. Just compare national debt lol. While some of the countries in trouble regurarly are governed by rightwing politicians. But then their political orientation also has nothing at all to do with their problems. The origin of these problems are still your investment banks fuckups with their scam mortgage packages. This is where the whole world invested in.
If the US was checked against the same rules by those American rating agencies (which are hired by American investment banks), they would've lost their triple A status years ago. If only for the ridiculous high national debt.
Before you start judging other countries you might want to first learn to solve your own internal problems. It is just sad that some certain American nonprofit organisations now have to stay in the US because so many ppl can't even afford simple healthcare. It is simple economics , a healthy population costs less on the long run. As long as you fail at that , dont try to point at 'socialist' countries for being social. It simply makes sense from a business perspective to do that. Just not always in the eyes of investment companies.
Might want to check Scandanavian countries too. In your eyes their governments are also socialists. Check the peoples life expectancy, happiness and economy of those countries. There is a reason why they always score high and poverty is almost non existant.
I'm out of this thread. It still amazes me how Americans can be so incredibly uninformed about other countries while not realising it.
EDIT : My apologies for the late reaction after everyone else already decide to drop the politics, I just needed some extra time to translate
Seriously, the US President is NOT a socialist, he is a Union boss. Every thing he has done since he got into office has been an attempt to get a better contract, with more benefits for his union members, at the expense of the big bad company that has all the money. All you have to do to benefit with this guy is join his union and you will be set for life....or until his contract gets tossed out by the next dude or dudette that gets in there.
Anyway, that aside, I agree, we should move back on topic here. I really hate talking pole-tics on an MMO forum.
Even though you just did
Please people, save your hate for the REAL enemy... the Illuminati, and their plot to use aliens to suck out our brains and make us buy GW2 and vote for Tom Cruise!
I don't think you grasp socialist agendas and economic policies that think the government should control your money instead of you controlling your finances ex. - VAT. Go takes a basic economic class and get back to me.
VAT is sales tax, yes it goes into central government coffers. You guys pay federal and state sales tax, so you have two lots of people 'controling your finances' I guess it's not a socialist agenda if t's on your own doorstep?
Do people forget they can buy it at retailers? i live in poland and bought GW2 for the same price I would pay for SWTOR. From what I know in UK you can buy it for 40 quids.
And yeah I know I added to to the highjack there, just way too much fun dont ya think!
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
I don't think you grasp socialist agendas and economic policies that think the government should control your money instead of you controlling your finances ex. - VAT. Go takes a basic economic class and get back to me.
VAT is sales tax, yes it goes into central government coffers. You guys pay federal and state sales tax, so you have two lots of people 'controling your finances' I guess it's not a socialist agenda if t's on your own doorstep?
Last one out turn the lights off.
Actually I paid exactly 59.99. List price with "zero" taxes because it was purchased over the internet.
I'm just disappointed as I usually like buying straight from the company, but with TERA and possibly TSW coming out I cannot justify such expense, not after all the horrible mmos I wasted my cash on last year. Gods & Heroes, Xsyon, the list goes on.
the EURO pricing is higher (at least when compared to Blizzard games)
Thats what happens when you live in a socialist run country. Deal with it or MOVE.
Like a buddy of mine once said "I didn't like the country I was living in and their policies so I voted with my feet."
This made me chuckle, I don't think the word "socialist" means what you think it means.
I don't think you grasp socialist agendas and economic policies that think the government should control your money instead of you controlling your finances ex. - VAT. Go takes a basic economic class and get back to me.
It is not one country and they are not all run by socialists (wtf?). Don't tell others to go take a class if you don't even realise that Europe isn't one country. There are no countries with a real free market. All have regulations and governments that help main industry to stay healthy. (Would GM still exist without that?)
Also VAT doesn't even come close to explain the price difference. It is also not the same for all European countries.
I'm referring to the Euro "Zone". Yes many countries comprise Western Europe and the majority of those countries are going bankrupt because of whatever degree of social economic policies they practice with maybe the exception of Germany and it's economy is by no means healthly.
But the government buying up so much corporate debt that the USA keeps hitting its debt ceiling and being on the verge of default(like those EU countries) is fine? Its exactly the same. Current USA public debt is $15.589 TRILLION
Yes. U.S. debt has tripled in the last 3 years due to a president and congress that have socialist values and agendas. We are working on fixing that in November. Thank you. your statement validates my point exactly.
debt when obama took office was 10.6 trillion. it just recently topped 15 trillion. thats not quite 50%.get you facts straight.
How much is the European VAT as a percentage of purchase price?
Good point. VAT adds quite abit to the price of just about everything. But someone has to pay for all of that socialism. ^^ As opposed to the good old fashioned crony capitalism/Fascism we use in the US. ^^
I don't think you grasp socialist agendas and economic policies that think the government should control your money instead of you controlling your finances ex. - VAT. Go takes a basic economic class and get back to me.
VAT is sales tax, yes it goes into central government coffers. You guys pay federal and state sales tax, so you have two lots of people 'controling your finances' I guess it's not a socialist agenda if t's on your own doorstep?
Last one out turn the lights off.
Actually I paid exactly 59.99. List price with "zero" taxes because it was purchased over the internet.
/lights off
you really are clueless.
please dont comment on what you dont understand.
the price up has nothing to do with VAT. end of.
Currently playing- SWG PreCU & GW 2 Have tried WoW, AoC, & Vanguard, SWG:NGE, GW, LOTRO & SWTOR Best MMO: SWG Worst MMO: SWTOR
How much is the European VAT as a percentage of purchase price?
Good point. VAT adds quite abit to the price of just about everything. But someone has to pay for all of that socialism. ^^ As opposed to the good old fashioned crony capitalism/Fascism we use in the US. ^^
How many times...
VAT has nothing to do with this. The UK price for the standard edition from ANet is £49.99 inc VAT = $79.28. In the USA they pay $60 inc taxes
Also, play.com are offering the exact same version with the same benefits for £39.99 inc VAT = $63.42 which is a fair price.
If you buy direct from ANet you are getting ripped off.
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
if it was $100 I'd still buy it. why you ask? THERE IS NO MONTHLY SUB COST. of course the initial price will be high- they have to make money to sustain until the cash shop starts making money. I swear peoples intelligence levels sometimes on forums is unbelievable.
not to mention all other games (swtor for example) were $60 too.
Ask yourself when the last time you paid for a MMO worth the box price. I would say since 2002 there hasn't been one worthy of the initial cost. Don't see why people wouldn't be skeptical about this game either. We know nothing about what we will get at launch except for what they are telling us, however, most MMOs are nothing what we where promised when they launch.
Let people be causious they have every right to be given the scams the last few years in the gaming industry.
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Here is a little example of why some people are complaingin about this one. $60, 80$, $160. Only the $160 is an actual retail box, all others are electronic download. A little comparison - not to an old title, but one coming out pretty much the exact same time as GW2.
TSW - $49.99 base game.
+ $14.99 for Initiates Pack upgrade - small amount of nice toys at start
+ $59.99 for Masters Pack upgrade - pretty much your collectors edition
+$199.99 for Grand Masters Pack upgrade - contains the Masters Pack + a life time sub.
So in comparison - $50 vs $60, $65 vs $80, and $110 vs $160, with TSW giving one level higher for the LTS (which if you do the math on it, its the $110 Masters Pack up front + $140 for the LTS). Not a HUGE difference, but it is a difference.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
But the government buying up so much corporate debt that the USA keeps hitting its debt ceiling and being on the verge of default(like those EU countries) is fine? Its exactly the same. Current USA public debt is $15.589 TRILLION, and there aint no one thats gonna bail the USA out.
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
Yes. U.S. debt has tripled in the last 3 years due to a president and congress that have socialist values and agendas. We are working on fixing that in November. Thank you. your statement validates my point exactly.
Life IS Feudal
WTF are you talking about? I prove that you are wrong with facts. You come back with some rediculous conspiracy theory that bears no relation to the argument at hand?
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
LOL The POTUS doesn't control the economy, gas prices or what his constituits do. The President is not a socialist nor a muslim and he's provided his Birth Certificate information on numerous occassions.
But yes.. Mit Romney will save us all.. LOL.. No not really..
This has nothing to do with this topic so I'll leave it alone now..
PM before you report at least or you could just block.
Let's get back to talking about the game instead of failed economic policies.
MMORPG frowns on political discussions.
Life IS Feudal
Can we please not have the thread de-railed with pointless political bull, there is no point arguing with either left or right ideologues with the ability to filter reality.
(though personally I get offended when certain Americans dismiss the EU or UK as "socialist" i.e. not right wing enough, as if anyone in that country knows what that word means, I just wish they'd stop all pretending they all have politcal theory phds).
Now, back to A-net ripping us off.
From Wikipedia:
A socialist economic system would consist of an organisation of production to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services would be produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital, and accounting would be based onphysical quantities, a common physical magnitude, or a direct measure of labour-time.[5][6] Distribution of output would be based on the principle ofindividual contribution.
This does not describe the USA or any European country. The USA is the most profit driven capitalist country I know of that promotes individual and corporate wealth. This is in direct opposition to socialist principles. The only truly socialist country I can think of is Cuba.
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
Yeah, THE BASTARDS!!
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
Seriously, the US President is NOT a socialist, he is a Union boss. Every thing he has done since he got into office has been an attempt to get a better contract, with more benefits for his union members, at the expense of the big bad company that has all the money. All you have to do to benefit with this guy is join his union and you will be set for life....or until his contract gets tossed out by the next dude or dudette that gets in there.
Anyway, that aside, I agree, we should move back on topic here. I really hate talking pole-tics on an MMO forum.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Funny enough Germany is a country run by socialists. And its economy is a lot healthier then the US economy. Just compare national debt lol. While some of the countries in trouble regurarly are governed by rightwing politicians. But then their political orientation also has nothing at all to do with their problems. The origin of these problems are still your investment banks fuckups with their scam mortgage packages. This is where the whole world invested in.
If the US was checked against the same rules by those American rating agencies (which are hired by American investment banks), they would've lost their triple A status years ago. If only for the ridiculous high national debt.
Before you start judging other countries you might want to first learn to solve your own internal problems. It is just sad that some certain American nonprofit organisations now have to stay in the US because so many ppl can't even afford simple healthcare. It is simple economics , a healthy population costs less on the long run. As long as you fail at that , dont try to point at 'socialist' countries for being social. It simply makes sense from a business perspective to do that. Just not always in the eyes of investment companies.
Might want to check Scandanavian countries too. In your eyes their governments are also socialists. Check the peoples life expectancy, happiness and economy of those countries. There is a reason why they always score high and poverty is almost non existant.
I'm out of this thread. It still amazes me how Americans can be so incredibly uninformed about other countries while not realising it.
EDIT : My apologies for the late reaction after everyone else already decide to drop the politics, I just needed some extra time to translate
Even though you just did
Please people, save your hate for the REAL enemy... the Illuminati, and their plot to use aliens to suck out our brains and make us buy GW2 and vote for Tom Cruise!
VAT is sales tax, yes it goes into central government coffers. You guys pay federal and state sales tax, so you have two lots of people 'controling your finances' I guess it's not a socialist agenda if t's on your own doorstep?
Last one out turn the lights off.
I paid the price! But Im not in Europe. Ah well. Get a proxy and buy the US version!
Do people forget they can buy it at retailers? i live in poland and bought GW2 for the same price I would pay for SWTOR. From what I know in UK you can buy it for 40 quids.
Fun Fun!
And yeah I know I added to to the highjack there, just way too much fun dont ya think!
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Hadn't got to your response when I posted above. True story.
Actually I paid exactly 59.99. List price with "zero" taxes because it was purchased over the internet.
/lights off
Life IS Feudal
I'm just disappointed as I usually like buying straight from the company, but with TERA and possibly TSW coming out I cannot justify such expense, not after all the horrible mmos I wasted my cash on last year. Gods & Heroes, Xsyon, the list goes on.
I am bitter, and angry, and I need a forum hug.
debt when obama took office was 10.6 trillion. it just recently topped 15 trillion. thats not quite 50%.get you facts straight.
Good point. VAT adds quite abit to the price of just about everything. But someone has to pay for all of that socialism. ^^ As opposed to the good old fashioned crony capitalism/Fascism we use in the US. ^^
you really are clueless.
please dont comment on what you dont understand.
the price up has nothing to do with VAT. end of.
Currently playing- SWG PreCU & GW 2
Have tried WoW, AoC, & Vanguard, SWG:NGE, GW, LOTRO & SWTOR
Best MMO: SWG
Worst MMO: SWTOR
How many times...
VAT has nothing to do with this. The UK price for the standard edition from ANet is £49.99 inc VAT = $79.28. In the USA they pay $60 inc taxes
Also, play.com are offering the exact same version with the same benefits for £39.99 inc VAT = $63.42 which is a fair price.
If you buy direct from ANet you are getting ripped off.
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
I bought the CE becouse i wanne support capitalism:P
I realy dont care what others say i jsut wanne have fun again in game and it seems GW2 maybe provide me with this.
Its a GAMBLE i took but hey thats life also sometimes you have to gamble to go forward hehe.
Let the MONEY ROLL
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Ask yourself when the last time you paid for a MMO worth the box price. I would say since 2002 there hasn't been one worthy of the initial cost. Don't see why people wouldn't be skeptical about this game either. We know nothing about what we will get at launch except for what they are telling us, however, most MMOs are nothing what we where promised when they launch.
Let people be causious they have every right to be given the scams the last few years in the gaming industry.