@Fiontar, reposting the paragraph which tells you why some of us have issue with this article.
"I opt to play a female human warrior. My choice of race is down to the fact that the human starting area – lush farmland under attack by roaming centaur warbands – is the most frequently cited example of GW2’s evolving ‘events’ system, where quests are thrown out in favour of dynamic objectives based on the independent actions of players, monsters and friendly NPCs. I become a mail-clad warrior, meanwhile, because I want my character to put some bloody clothes on. The land of Tyria is populated by clear-faced underwear models, and it’s an uphill struggle to make a female character who doesn’t look 15 years old. The best I can do is a kind of Disney Joan of Arc, a waif-thin airbrushed beauty wielding a sword bigger than she is. I avoid spellcasters entirely because there’s only so much Renaissance-themed fetish gear I can handle.
all this is is bitch, complain, moan and this is how he sets himself up to play... WTF!
Interesting article. Article makes DE sound seemingly like Rift's rifts, if you ask me.
edit: made link clickable.
If GW2's DE's are like Rift's rifts then Mice are like Elephants. You can see some similarities such as both have tails, both have 4 legs, both have big ears relative to their size but then you notice the differences such as one is fu*king huge the other small, one has strength the other is weak. Its the same as your scenario. The Rifts in Rift suck, have no bearing on the game and are an afterthought with no bearing on the outcome of the game. In GW2 the DE's are all over, even in dungeons, the game was designed with DE's in mind and without them the game falls apart because theres nothing to do.
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Norn are more like amazons. While a bit more full figured they could still pass for a model. I am talking Brunhilde big like when she looks at you, you can't tell if she wants to eat you, kill you, or worse have sex with you. Barrel chested with arms the size of oak trees and a face that would shatter any mirror even remotely tempted to stare back at her.
I wonder how we would all feel if the only male toons we could make all looked like Edward from Twilight? How about even worse Sting in the metal speedo from Dune? Just running around mostly naked looking like a pixie but you are suppose to be a great warrior in full plate. That would be kinda stupid, don't you agree?
Personally I would have loved to seen them make female Char bigger and look meaner than the male Char.
Oh god...
I don't see why would I want to make a fugly woman since I'll be playing with my character... I don't see what's so wrong with having good looking female characters in game (since you can really customize and do a lot with it.. From stunningly beautiful to freakishly ugly) to some reasonable limit... You can't make a norn scarface if that's what you want, but in which mmorpg CAN you do that?
Charr... There's not much difference between female and male charr... You can't even tell the difference untill you give it a closer look Female charrs are a bit thinner and not so bulky but it's hard to tell untill you learn what to look at xD
BTW, are you saying all female soldiers or warriors should look ugly? Like you never saw a beautiful woman in uniform... I sure did...
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@Fiontar, reposting the paragraph which tells you why some of us have issue with this article.
"I opt to play a female human warrior. My choice of race is down to the fact that the human starting area – lush farmland under attack by roaming centaur warbands – is the most frequently cited example of GW2’s evolving ‘events’ system, where quests are thrown out in favour of dynamic objectives based on the independent actions of players, monsters and friendly NPCs. I become a mail-clad warrior, meanwhile, because I want my character to put some bloody clothes on. The land of Tyria is populated by clear-faced underwear models, and it’s an uphill struggle to make a female character who doesn’t look 15 years old. The best I can do is a kind of Disney Joan of Arc, a waif-thin airbrushed beauty wielding a sword bigger than she is. I avoid spellcasters entirely because there’s only so much Renaissance-themed fetish gear I can handle.
all this is is bitch, complain, moan and this is how he sets himself up to play... WTF!
Eh, it's art, it's just opinion. Personally, I hate the Oblivion models because I think they are all fugly and wish they were MORE beautiful. This guy probably likes the Oblivion models, while I like the GW2 models better.
All that said though, I think that when a male writer claims to want more "realistic" and less beautiful female models they are probably just trying to say what they think female readers want to see.
Interesting article. Article makes DE sound seemingly like Rift's rifts, if you ask me.
edit: made link clickable.
If GW2's DE's are like Rift's rifts then Mice are like Elephants. You can see some similarities such as both have tails, both have 4 legs, both have big ears relative to their size but then you notice the differences such as one is fu*king huge the other small, one has strength the other is weak. Its the same as your scenario. The Rifts in Rift suck, have no bearing on the game and are an afterthought with no bearing on the outcome of the game. In GW2 the DE's are all over, even in dungeons, the game was designed with DE's in mind and without them the game falls apart because theres nothing to do.
Well technically the Hyrax is closely related to the Elephant and basically looks like a large mouse with no tail that lives in the rocks of mountains.
Very interesting article, found it to be a good read.
Also find it extremely funny that while the article gives GW2 a lot of praise overall, the GW2 fanboys/girls cant help themselves.....
From the very beginning, he makes it clear that he doesn't think there is anything wrong with MMO's currently. <--Huge Red Flag.
And why does he keep comparing so many things to SWTOR? And he doesn't do it in a way that is unbiased (and yes thats his job). He is not responding to trolls on mmorpg forums, he is writing for PC Gamer.
So, his opinion differs to yours about the state of the whole MMO genre, and that makes him completely wrong and you completely right?
As for comparing so many things to SWTOR, which article are you reading? he compares to EQ and WoW more than he compares to SWTOR, so maybe, just maybe, you being a SWTOR hater is blinding you a bit.
Players are voiced, but you don’t have any choice about what they say: it’s not The Old Republic.
These missions operate differently to the class-locked caves and bunkers of The Old Republic.
And really, how are those two comments, even taken out of the context of the rest of what the article is saying, that bad?
For starters, I just don't like the way this guy writes. That shouldn't be hard to understand.
Most of the people that post on these forums are not happy with the state of the genre. I am not alone in that belief.
We all know that GW2 is to some degree breaking the mold and this guy from the get go says that he doesn't have a problem with the current state of mmo's. At the very least it makes me question his knowledge of mmo's if he thinks they are all fine now. I think he knows as much about MMOs as the typical WoW subscriber.
Do I hate swtor? I don't think it deserves the attention it gets. I think I could paint a turd and call it a star wars cookie and people would buy it. If I was a huge star wars fan and had played SWG I would be severely let down.
But do I hate it? Naw. But don't hold it up as the standard when you review the game I am looking forward to.
The GW2 fanboys are just flaming because it wasnt completely full of wild praise for the game, as they do for anything that isnt 110% positive.
I really am liking the sound of how the DE's work, allowing you to randomly come across HUGE battles and conribute even if they are meant for higher or lower levels than you, and if they are half way through. You dont have to wait for a reset or anything
This however worries me:
not needing to find players with particular skill-sets means that in my weekend with the game I hardly spoke to anyone, and made no lasting relationships. The circumstances will have played a role in this, but there was none of the development of trust and respect that goes with knowing, for example, that someone is a great healer
This makes it sound like levelling could be a very lonely experience. Of course, being in a guild will help this, but there should be incentives for people to actually talk to each other and interact with each other.
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@Fiontar, reposting the paragraph which tells you why some of us have issue with this article.
"I opt to play a female human warrior. My choice of race is down to the fact that the human starting area – lush farmland under attack by roaming centaur warbands – is the most frequently cited example of GW2’s evolving ‘events’ system, where quests are thrown out in favour of dynamic objectives based on the independent actions of players, monsters and friendly NPCs. I become a mail-clad warrior, meanwhile, because I want my character to put some bloody clothes on. The land of Tyria is populated by clear-faced underwear models, and it’s an uphill struggle to make a female character who doesn’t look 15 years old. The best I can do is a kind of Disney Joan of Arc, a waif-thin airbrushed beauty wielding a sword bigger than she is. I avoid spellcasters entirely because there’s only so much Renaissance-themed fetish gear I can handle.
all this is is bitch, complain, moan and this is how he sets himself up to play... WTF!
Eh, it's art, it's just opinion. Personally, I hate the Oblivion models because I think they are all fugly and wish they were MORE beautiful. This guy probably likes the Oblivion models, while I like the GW2 models better.
All that said though, I think that when a male writer claims to want more "realistic" and less beautiful female models they are probably just trying to say what they think female readers want to see.
but he also clearly didn't try to make an non 15 yr old.. since most of us have seen the char creation vid with them mimicing celebrities.. for instance the Meagan Fox.. does NOT look like a "waif thin airbrushed beauty".. my point is just that how can you take what he says as an accurate opinion if he starts out complaining and insulting half the player base(referring to clothies alone). He should also maybe talk to a few female gamers if he really is trying to do this for us... I don't think I know any women that do not like to make their char look good unless they are trying to hide out and pretend to be male.. which happens a bit and with reason.
@Fiontar, reposting the paragraph which tells you why some of us have issue with this article.
"I opt to play a female human warrior. My choice of race is down to the fact that the human starting area – lush farmland under attack by roaming centaur warbands – is the most frequently cited example of GW2’s evolving ‘events’ system, where quests are thrown out in favour of dynamic objectives based on the independent actions of players, monsters and friendly NPCs. I become a mail-clad warrior, meanwhile, because I want my character to put some bloody clothes on. The land of Tyria is populated by clear-faced underwear models, and it’s an uphill struggle to make a female character who doesn’t look 15 years old. The best I can do is a kind of Disney Joan of Arc, a waif-thin airbrushed beauty wielding a sword bigger than she is. I avoid spellcasters entirely because there’s only so much Renaissance-themed fetish gear I can handle.
all this is is bitch, complain, moan and this is how he sets himself up to play... WTF!
Eh, it's art, it's just opinion. Personally, I hate the Oblivion models because I think they are all fugly and wish they were MORE beautiful. This guy probably likes the Oblivion models, while I like the GW2 models better.
All that said though, I think that when a male writer claims to want more "realistic" and less beautiful female models they are probably just trying to say what they think female readers want to see.
Personally I am upset that there is not a mechanic to water plants. As anyone knows who has ever had plants in their house if you don't water them; they die. Now how are all these various potted plants in the various cities staying alive?
Well let me tell its certainly from plant watering I will you that!!
As a person who has had plants in the past and failed to water them I can you they die. And you need to do it like once a week easy. Do you know how much time people spend watering their plants? Alot!
I tell you the fact that they overlooked this is an egregious. Its just not realistic and people clearly are deeply in involved in plant watering, they do it all the time. I mean come one. Do you know how many people own house plants? Alot.
Yet there is no plant watering in GW2. Imagine how many more copies they would sell. Imagine how they would be the toast of the gaming world if they could just be realistic like we all want.
The GW2 fanboys are just flaming because it wasnt completely full of wild praise for the game, as they do for anything that isnt 110% positive.
I really am liking the sound of how the DE's work, allowing you to randomly come across HUGE battles and conribute even if they are meant for higher or lower levels than you.
This however worries me:
not needing to find players with particular skill-sets means that in my weekend with the game I hardly spoke to anyone, and made no lasting relationships. The circumstances will have played a role in this, but there was none of the development of trust and respect that goes with knowing, for example, that someone is a great healer
This makes it sound like levelling could be a very lonely experience. Of course, being in a guild will help this, but there should be incentives for people to actually talk to each other and interact with each other.
As i have stated before. How do you interact and talk to other players in all other MMO's? What MMO gives an incentive for people to actually talk to each other? The only time this happens is in Dugeons, or pvp. Even in SWtOR you could solo the "elite" elements.
The GW2 fanboys are just flaming because it wasnt completely full of wild praise for the game, as they do for anything that isnt 110% positive.
I really am liking the sound of how the DE's work, allowing you to randomly come across HUGE battles and conribute even if they are meant for higher or lower levels than you.
This however worries me:
not needing to find players with particular skill-sets means that in my weekend with the game I hardly spoke to anyone, and made no lasting relationships. The circumstances will have played a role in this, but there was none of the development of trust and respect that goes with knowing, for example, that someone is a great healer
This makes it sound like levelling could be a very lonely experience. Of course, being in a guild will help this, but there should be incentives for people to actually talk to each other and interact with each other.
He didn't try then. I played for a very short time and played with others in events at lvl 3 or so.. we worked together and had fun. It is up to you to speak to those around you.. it isnt the games fault if you are antisocial =P
Well awesome the first negative review (albeit not really in the traditional sense) and its chalk full of personal opinion and not fact. Might as well been a review of GW2 from the front office of Bioware/EA it was so blatantly biased. If this is as bad a review as GW2 will get then this bodes well for the future of the game lol.
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@Fiontar, reposting the paragraph which tells you why some of us have issue with this article.
"I opt to play a female human warrior. My choice of race is down to the fact that the human starting area – lush farmland under attack by roaming centaur warbands – is the most frequently cited example of GW2’s evolving ‘events’ system, where quests are thrown out in favour of dynamic objectives based on the independent actions of players, monsters and friendly NPCs. I become a mail-clad warrior, meanwhile, because I want my character to put some bloody clothes on. The land of Tyria is populated by clear-faced underwear models, and it’s an uphill struggle to make a female character who doesn’t look 15 years old. The best I can do is a kind of Disney Joan of Arc, a waif-thin airbrushed beauty wielding a sword bigger than she is. I avoid spellcasters entirely because there’s only so much Renaissance-themed fetish gear I can handle.
all this is is bitch, complain, moan and this is how he sets himself up to play... WTF!
Eh, it's art, it's just opinion. Personally, I hate the Oblivion models because I think they are all fugly and wish they were MORE beautiful. This guy probably likes the Oblivion models, while I like the GW2 models better.
All that said though, I think that when a male writer claims to want more "realistic" and less beautiful female models they are probably just trying to say what they think female readers want to see.
Personally I am upset that there is not a mechanic to water plants. As anyone knows who has ever had plants in their house if you don't water them; they die. Now how are all these various potted plants in the various cities staying alive?
Well let me tell its certainly from plant watering I will you that!!
As a person who has had plants in the past and failed to water them I can you they die. And you need to do it like once a week easy. Do you know how much time people spend watering their plants? Alot!
I tell you the fact that they overlooked this is an egregious. Its just not realistic and people clearly are deeply in involved in plant watering, they do it all the time. I mean come one. Do you know how many people own house plants? Alot.
Yet there is no plant watering in GW2. Imagine how many more copies they would sell. Imagine how they would be the toast of the gaming world if they could just be realistic like we all want.
Also Oblivion models are fugly.
Farmville is in MoP silly also i agree on the Oblivion chars being ugly.. also Fallout3/NV WHY are the eyes sickly looking? They look like they are half dead
Well awesome the first negative review (albeit not really in the traditional sense) and its chalk full of personal opinion and not fact. Might as well been a review of GW2 from the front office of Bioware/EA it was so blatantly biased. If this is as bad a review as GW2 will get then this bodes well for the future of the game lol.
The GW2 fanboys are just flaming because it wasnt completely full of wild praise for the game, as they do for anything that isnt 110% positive.
I really am liking the sound of how the DE's work, allowing you to randomly come across HUGE battles and conribute even if they are meant for higher or lower levels than you, and if they are half way through. You dont have to wait for a reset or anything
This however worries me:
not needing to find players with particular skill-sets means that in my weekend with the game I hardly spoke to anyone, and made no lasting relationships. The circumstances will have played a role in this, but there was none of the development of trust and respect that goes with knowing, for example, that someone is a great healer
This makes it sound like levelling could be a very lonely experience. Of course, being in a guild will help this, but there should be incentives for people to actually talk to each other and interact with each other.
I have leveled multiple chars through Wow , rift, EQ2 and AoC. The only social interaction whtstoever i had during leveling process was through guild chat. I am not saying you have to do it that way if you dont want to, wht i mean is that socializing is only mandatory, and only in a a very relative way, in pvp and instancing. You wont need it at all for leveling in most modern mmos.
this guy is ******* >.< he chooses human and then bitches about the way they look... why didn't he choose a different race?!?!? He says he chose human for the starting area.. yet the 3 areas to choose from are equally fleshed out and most of us have seen some great footage of these areas.. I played the Charr and it was great. I love how he says he did human because its been done the most... WTF! This tells me he didn't even try, wwatched vids from others and gave the game 10 min regardless of what he says. Also what does this guy have against women looking pretty... I am a woman and dammit I WANT my char to look pretty. Why doesn't he play a male toon if it bothers him so much?
Ah ha.. read farther in "its not the old republic".. explains A LOT. Yea I stopped reading.. too many innacuracies and canned responses. This guy should go back to writing for SWTOR.. perhaps he can write about how it isn't dead because ppl took advatage of FREE game time.
-He does make a point, it has been voiced numerous times that Human females seem to have the least amount of characteristic production value, though a close second would be Norn females.
An example is that they do NOT have an elderly model texture, but they do have elderly voices, it is strange to say the least.
-Unfortuantely many people seem to be under the guise that this game is coming out this summer, I would bet the farm that it is not.
-Though I do agree with Ariboersma, Char are probably the best race out of the 3 available for beta, great character, especially on the older char veterans who don't exactly like the humans.
-All in all I do hope that human females receive some extra character in the future, like scars and eye patches much like Langmar.
Just to point out Norn Female Character Creator (that we know of anyway)
Many options not just thin. While the current human character creation is lacking in some body types, if you compare it to the Norn the Human creation has fewer options (so could be missing and not final).
this guy is ******* >.< he chooses human and then bitches about the way they look... why didn't he choose a different race?!?!? He says he chose human for the starting area.. yet the 3 areas to choose from are equally fleshed out and most of us have seen some great footage of these areas.. I played the Charr and it was great. I love how he says he did human because its been done the most... WTF! This tells me he didn't even try, wwatched vids from others and gave the game 10 min regardless of what he says. Also what does this guy have against women looking pretty... I am a woman and dammit I WANT my char to look pretty. Why doesn't he play a male toon if it bothers him so much?
Ah ha.. read farther in "its not the old republic".. explains A LOT. Yea I stopped reading.. too many innacuracies and canned responses. This guy should go back to writing for SWTOR.. perhaps he can write about how it isn't dead because ppl took advatage of FREE game time.
-He does make a point, it has been voiced numerous times that Human females seem to have the least amount of characteristic production value, though a close second would be Norn females.
An example is that they do NOT have an elderly model texture, but they do have elderly voices, it is strange to say the least.
-Unfortuantely many people seem to be under the guise that this game is coming out this summer, I would bet the farm that it is not.
-Though I do agree with Ariboersma, Char are probably the best race out of the 3 available for beta, great character, especially on the older char veterans who don't exactly like the humans.
-All in all I do hope that human females receive some extra character in the future, like scars and eye patches much like Langmar.
I do agree with the human female thing. As far as release.. when its ready.. SORRY! I had to! but I think we will get a better understanding after the BWE.. but I do not think summer is out of the question from the little time I got to play it. Lets just say a certain Funcom game is less ready to release in June =P
this guy is ******* >.< he chooses human and then bitches about the way they look... why didn't he choose a different race?!?!? He says he chose human for the starting area.. yet the 3 areas to choose from are equally fleshed out and most of us have seen some great footage of these areas.. I played the Charr and it was great. I love how he says he did human because its been done the most... WTF! This tells me he didn't even try, wwatched vids from others and gave the game 10 min regardless of what he says. Also what does this guy have against women looking pretty... I am a woman and dammit I WANT my char to look pretty. Why doesn't he play a male toon if it bothers him so much?
Ah ha.. read farther in "its not the old republic".. explains A LOT. Yea I stopped reading.. too many innacuracies and canned responses. This guy should go back to writing for SWTOR.. perhaps he can write about how it isn't dead because ppl took advatage of FREE game time.
-He does make a point, it has been voiced numerous times that Human females seem to have the least amount of characteristic production value, though a close second would be Norn females.
An example is that they do NOT have an elderly model texture, but they do have elderly voices, it is strange to say the least.
-Unfortuantely many people seem to be under the guise that this game is coming out this summer, I would bet the farm that it is not.
-Though I do agree with Ariboersma, Char are probably the best race out of the 3 available for beta, great character, especially on the older char veterans who don't exactly like the humans.
-All in all I do hope that human females receive some extra character in the future, like scars and eye patches much like Langmar.
I do agree with the human female thing. As far as release.. when its ready.. SORRY! I had to! but I think we will get a better understanding after the BWE.. but I do not think summer is out of the question from the little time I got to play it. Lets just say a certain Funcom game is less ready to release in June =P
Ya with what they have shown i have no idea how that funcom game is coming out in June. I will say that i odn't think we will see GW2 coming out for another 3-4months. They are still not going to show 2 races in this BWE.
Very interesting article, found it to be a good read.
Also find it extremely funny that while the article gives GW2 a lot of praise overall, the GW2 fanboys/girls cant help themselves.....
From the very beginning, he makes it clear that he doesn't think there is anything wrong with MMO's currently. <--Huge Red Flag.
And why does he keep comparing so many things to SWTOR? And he doesn't do it in a way that is unbiased (and yes thats his job). He is not responding to trolls on mmorpg forums, he is writing for PC Gamer.
So, his opinion differs to yours about the state of the whole MMO genre, and that makes him completely wrong and you completely right?
As for comparing so many things to SWTOR, which article are you reading? he compares to EQ and WoW more than he compares to SWTOR, so maybe, just maybe, you being a SWTOR hater is blinding you a bit.
Players are voiced, but you don’t have any choice about what they say: it’s not The Old Republic.
These missions operate differently to the class-locked caves and bunkers of The Old Republic.
And really, how are those two comments, even taken out of the context of the rest of what the article is saying, that bad?
the author's opinion is "wrong" because he has set himself up for less than optimal gameplay. He forced himself to choose things he didn't like.. THAT is why his "opinion" isn't worth knowing. Why listen to someone who has set themselves up to be unhappy when we want his unbiased opinion?
I don't think the fanboys really understand how great this review really was. See if he set himself up to fail , but came out with a postive review then the game wins. If i was a dev i would ask someone that hated my game to play what they thought was the worst and tell me the truth, anyone can pick the best and have a great review and fake the rest.
look at it like a movie preveiw. all the action and graphics and you think wow that was cool, then you get to the show and after 96 min you think crap, i seen all the good stuff in the preview.. he choose what you say was less the prefect and still had good things to say and thought it was going to be a good game WIN WIN WIN.. so clam down and think .
Read the review. Twice lol. What to say? I've had my criticisms of this game, things from GW I wish were in, things that are in that I wish were not. But Renaissance-themed fetish gear? Really? Obviously I can't crawl into this guys head so I dunno what his idea of fetish gear is and really not sure I care to know As a female player, I have never found the clothing in GW1 or what I've seen of it in GW2 as offensive or fetish style. I played Lineage 2 and I agree some of their stuff was OTT but I guess I've always considered GW clothing more stylish. There seems to be extremes of people who either want female characters dressed in nothing but leather belts and fish net stockings with bigger boobs then barbie, or dressed in head to toe in armour like a tin can. Anything in the middle is fine with me and I really do believe the Guild Wars females are somewhere in the middle. Showing a belly button, midriff or a bit of thigh shouldn't be seen as smut. I don't know what to say beyond that.
Interesting article. Article makes DE sound seemingly like Rift's rifts, if you ask me.
edit: made link clickable.
Very good preview, thanx for the link OP.
Regarding over-beautification of human race, he was too moderate in criticism. Because of this direction, GW and GW2 looks like a usual generic asian MMO imho. Are there any unicorns in GW2 yet!?
This is the stuff that is so annoying. People pull statements form their butt when they don't know what they are talking about.
There are tons of armor in GW2. Armor in GW2 has always been about they way you want to look. Pictures from the wiki below. It seems the professional journalist made the same mistake alot of posters do when they make statements without doing any research. The pictures below have been released by ArenaNet for over a year, possibly 2.
As you can see there are plenty of options for your armor to look they way you want.
*Edit: I don't think the article is bad, I am just taking issue with his statement that leads people to believe that sexy armor is the only option for human females. Also, why do you never see a Asura or Char in bikini armor?
Being a female, when I play my character I'd like her to look feminine not like some pole dancer or street walker. AOC, Rift, and Tera armor for females looks trashy to me and I couldn't play the games very long even if they were great games.
I think the female armor from the pictures I've seen, in GW2 looks feminine, not slutty. Thanks for the link above.
Yes, it was clearly bias, but I think this gives us a fairly good portrayal of how certain players will experience the game. I know there are going to be certain people who play the game with the mindset of "alright, lets see how true all of this hype is", which is admittedly the wrong approach to this game. However, that's kind of where this guy is coming from. He goes in w/ kind of a venomous approach to the game, but as you read on, you may quickly notice that he starts to pay less and less attention to his initial distain, and actually starts getting caught up in the fun of the game. I think this is going to happen to quite a few players, and speaks well for the game as a whole.
Really, the only thing I didn't agree w/ in his article was the part about meeting new people. The game is very social. It doesn't force you to talk w/ others (but I don't see how forcing people to be friends is ever a good thing anyway), but it is extremely easy to meet new people in the world, and to want to keep playing w/ them. While I've only played the game for ~ a few days, I've run into numerous times where I'd somehow end up in a party, chatting it up w/ other players. I even formed a couple parties with random players I found in the world, and had a blast exploring w/ strangers, talking about random things as we journeyed across the zones.
It's really easy to meet new people in this game. However, you do actually have to want to. Anet isn't going to send you mail saying 'this guys good, you two might get along!', and nor should they have to.
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@Fiontar, reposting the paragraph which tells you why some of us have issue with this article.
"I opt to play a female human warrior. My choice of race is down to the fact that the human starting area – lush farmland under attack by roaming centaur warbands – is the most frequently cited example of GW2’s evolving ‘events’ system, where quests are thrown out in favour of dynamic objectives based on the independent actions of players, monsters and friendly NPCs. I become a mail-clad warrior, meanwhile, because I want my character to put some bloody clothes on. The land of Tyria is populated by clear-faced underwear models, and it’s an uphill struggle to make a female character who doesn’t look 15 years old. The best I can do is a kind of Disney Joan of Arc, a waif-thin airbrushed beauty wielding a sword bigger than she is. I avoid spellcasters entirely because there’s only so much Renaissance-themed fetish gear I can handle.
all this is is bitch, complain, moan and this is how he sets himself up to play... WTF!
If GW2's DE's are like Rift's rifts then Mice are like Elephants. You can see some similarities such as both have tails, both have 4 legs, both have big ears relative to their size but then you notice the differences such as one is fu*king huge the other small, one has strength the other is weak. Its the same as your scenario. The Rifts in Rift suck, have no bearing on the game and are an afterthought with no bearing on the outcome of the game. In GW2 the DE's are all over, even in dungeons, the game was designed with DE's in mind and without them the game falls apart because theres nothing to do.
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I don't see why would I want to make a fugly woman since I'll be playing with my character... I don't see what's so wrong with having good looking female characters in game (since you can really customize and do a lot with it.. From stunningly beautiful to freakishly ugly) to some reasonable limit... You can't make a norn scarface if that's what you want, but in which mmorpg CAN you do that?
Charr... There's not much difference between female and male charr... You can't even tell the difference untill you give it a closer look
Female charrs are a bit thinner and not so bulky but it's hard to tell untill you learn what to look at xD
BTW, are you saying all female soldiers or warriors should look ugly? Like you never saw a beautiful woman in uniform... I sure did...
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Eh, it's art, it's just opinion. Personally, I hate the Oblivion models because I think they are all fugly and wish they were MORE beautiful. This guy probably likes the Oblivion models, while I like the GW2 models better.
All that said though, I think that when a male writer claims to want more "realistic" and less beautiful female models they are probably just trying to say what they think female readers want to see.
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Well technically the Hyrax is closely related to the Elephant and basically looks like a large mouse with no tail that lives in the rocks of mountains.
For starters, I just don't like the way this guy writes. That shouldn't be hard to understand.
Most of the people that post on these forums are not happy with the state of the genre. I am not alone in that belief.
We all know that GW2 is to some degree breaking the mold and this guy from the get go says that he doesn't have a problem with the current state of mmo's. At the very least it makes me question his knowledge of mmo's if he thinks they are all fine now. I think he knows as much about MMOs as the typical WoW subscriber.
Do I hate swtor? I don't think it deserves the attention it gets. I think I could paint a turd and call it a star wars cookie and people would buy it. If I was a huge star wars fan and had played SWG I would be severely let down.
But do I hate it? Naw. But don't hold it up as the standard when you review the game I am looking forward to.
Very well written and balanced article IMO
The GW2 fanboys are just flaming because it wasnt completely full of wild praise for the game, as they do for anything that isnt 110% positive.
I really am liking the sound of how the DE's work, allowing you to randomly come across HUGE battles and conribute even if they are meant for higher or lower levels than you, and if they are half way through. You dont have to wait for a reset or anything
This however worries me:
not needing to find players with particular skill-sets means that in my weekend with the game I hardly spoke to anyone, and made no lasting relationships. The circumstances will have played a role in this, but there was none of the development of trust and respect that goes with knowing, for example, that someone is a great healer
This makes it sound like levelling could be a very lonely experience. Of course, being in a guild will help this, but there should be incentives for people to actually talk to each other and interact with each other.
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but he also clearly didn't try to make an non 15 yr old.. since most of us have seen the char creation vid with them mimicing celebrities.. for instance the Meagan Fox.. does NOT look like a "waif thin airbrushed beauty".. my point is just that how can you take what he says as an accurate opinion if he starts out complaining and insulting half the player base(referring to clothies alone). He should also maybe talk to a few female gamers if he really is trying to do this for us... I don't think I know any women that do not like to make their char look good unless they are trying to hide out and pretend to be male.. which happens a bit and with reason.
Personally I am upset that there is not a mechanic to water plants. As anyone knows who has ever had plants in their house if you don't water them; they die. Now how are all these various potted plants in the various cities staying alive?
Well let me tell its certainly from plant watering I will you that!!
As a person who has had plants in the past and failed to water them I can you they die. And you need to do it like once a week easy. Do you know how much time people spend watering their plants? Alot!
I tell you the fact that they overlooked this is an egregious. Its just not realistic and people clearly are deeply in involved in plant watering, they do it all the time. I mean come one. Do you know how many people own house plants? Alot.
Yet there is no plant watering in GW2. Imagine how many more copies they would sell. Imagine how they would be the toast of the gaming world if they could just be realistic like we all want.
Also Oblivion models are fugly.
As i have stated before. How do you interact and talk to other players in all other MMO's? What MMO gives an incentive for people to actually talk to each other? The only time this happens is in Dugeons, or pvp. Even in SWtOR you could solo the "elite" elements.
He didn't try then. I played for a very short time and played with others in events at lvl 3 or so.. we worked together and had fun. It is up to you to speak to those around you.. it isnt the games fault if you are antisocial =P
Well awesome the first negative review (albeit not really in the traditional sense) and its chalk full of personal opinion and not fact. Might as well been a review of GW2 from the front office of Bioware/EA it was so blatantly biased. If this is as bad a review as GW2 will get then this bodes well for the future of the game lol.
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Farmville is in MoP silly
also i agree on the Oblivion chars being ugly.. also Fallout3/NV WHY are the eyes sickly looking? They look like they are half dead 
I laughed
I have leveled multiple chars through Wow , rift, EQ2 and AoC. The only social interaction whtstoever i had during leveling process was through guild chat. I am not saying you have to do it that way if you dont want to, wht i mean is that socializing is only mandatory, and only in a a very relative way, in pvp and instancing. You wont need it at all for leveling in most modern mmos.
-He does make a point, it has been voiced numerous times that Human females seem to have the least amount of characteristic production value, though a close second would be Norn females.
An example is that they do NOT have an elderly model texture, but they do have elderly voices, it is strange to say the least.
-Unfortuantely many people seem to be under the guise that this game is coming out this summer, I would bet the farm that it is not.
-Though I do agree with Ariboersma, Char are probably the best race out of the 3 available for beta, great character, especially on the older char veterans who don't exactly like the humans.
-All in all I do hope that human females receive some extra character in the future, like scars and eye patches much like Langmar.
Just to point out Norn Female Character Creator (that we know of anyway)
Many options not just thin. While the current human character creation is lacking in some body types, if you compare it to the Norn the Human creation has fewer options (so could be missing and not final).
I do agree with the human female thing. As far as release.. when its ready.. SORRY! I had to! but I think we will get a better understanding after the BWE.. but I do not think summer is out of the question from the little time I got to play it. Lets just say a certain Funcom game is less ready to release in June =P
Ya with what they have shown i have no idea how that funcom game is coming out in June. I will say that i odn't think we will see GW2 coming out for another 3-4months. They are still not going to show 2 races in this BWE.
I don't think the fanboys really understand how great this review really was. See if he set himself up to fail , but came out with a postive review then the game wins. If i was a dev i would ask someone that hated my game to play what they thought was the worst and tell me the truth, anyone can pick the best and have a great review and fake the rest.
look at it like a movie preveiw. all the action and graphics and you think wow that was cool, then you get to the show and after 96 min you think crap, i seen all the good stuff in the preview.. he choose what you say was less the prefect and still had good things to say and thought it was going to be a good game WIN WIN WIN.. so clam down and think .
Read the review. Twice lol. What to say? I've had my criticisms of this game, things from GW I wish were in, things that are in that I wish were not. But Renaissance-themed fetish gear? Really? Obviously I can't crawl into this guys head so I dunno what his idea of fetish gear is and really not sure I care to know
As a female player, I have never found the clothing in GW1 or what I've seen of it in GW2 as offensive or fetish style. I played Lineage 2 and I agree some of their stuff was OTT but I guess I've always considered GW clothing more stylish. There seems to be extremes of people who either want female characters dressed in nothing but leather belts and fish net stockings with bigger boobs then barbie, or dressed in head to toe in armour like a tin can. Anything in the middle is fine with me and I really do believe the Guild Wars females are somewhere in the middle. Showing a belly button, midriff or a bit of thigh shouldn't be seen as smut. I don't know what to say beyond that. 
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Very good preview, thanx for the link OP.
Regarding over-beautification of human race, he was too moderate in criticism. Because of this direction, GW and GW2 looks like a usual generic asian MMO imho. Are there any unicorns in GW2 yet!?
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Being a female, when I play my character I'd like her to look feminine not like some pole dancer or street walker. AOC, Rift, and Tera armor for females looks trashy to me and I couldn't play the games very long even if they were great games.
I think the female armor from the pictures I've seen, in GW2 looks feminine, not slutty. Thanks for the link above.
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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Looks to me like he's just trying to explain how mechanics differeniate between the two games, not holding TOR up as some kind of standard.
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Honestly, I found this review to be alright.
Yes, it was clearly bias, but I think this gives us a fairly good portrayal of how certain players will experience the game. I know there are going to be certain people who play the game with the mindset of "alright, lets see how true all of this hype is", which is admittedly the wrong approach to this game. However, that's kind of where this guy is coming from. He goes in w/ kind of a venomous approach to the game, but as you read on, you may quickly notice that he starts to pay less and less attention to his initial distain, and actually starts getting caught up in the fun of the game. I think this is going to happen to quite a few players, and speaks well for the game as a whole.
Really, the only thing I didn't agree w/ in his article was the part about meeting new people. The game is very social. It doesn't force you to talk w/ others (but I don't see how forcing people to be friends is ever a good thing anyway), but it is extremely easy to meet new people in the world, and to want to keep playing w/ them. While I've only played the game for ~ a few days, I've run into numerous times where I'd somehow end up in a party, chatting it up w/ other players. I even formed a couple parties with random players I found in the world, and had a blast exploring w/ strangers, talking about random things as we journeyed across the zones.
It's really easy to meet new people in this game. However, you do actually have to want to. Anet isn't going to send you mail saying 'this guys good, you two might get along!', and nor should they have to.