But do I hate it? Naw. But don't hold it up as the standard when you review the game I am looking forward to.
Looks to me like he's just trying to explain how mechanics differeniate between the two games, not holding TOR up as some kind of standard.
It's kind of hard to tell, really. He's clearly bias going into the article, and seems rather fond of other games like WoW & TOR instead of GW2. I don't think he was blatantly trying to banner TOR as a standard, but the comparison was there.
To be honest though, I can say that TOR's cutscenes are a little better. GW2's are pretty good, but they do feel a bit more clunky at times when comparing them w/ TOR's. That said, as you play more of the personal story you do start to see that you're decisions actually matter, unlike in TOR, so there is a bit of a trade-off I suppose.
I learned not to believe anyones Preview, ohhh how they said AoC was amazing, and SWTOR was incredible, these companies are a joke, best preview is your own, play it then you decide, never listen to anyone. end of story
I tend to try and find some more honest player reviews(not an easy thing). But other than that I agree. And for me i would have added lotro's 10/10, what warrented that score I still don't know.
Interesting article. Article makes DE sound seemingly like Rift's rifts, if you ask me.
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Very good preview, thanx for the link OP.
Regarding over-beautification of human race, he was too moderate in criticism. Because of this direction, GW and GW2 looks like a usual generic asian MMO imho. Are there any unicorns in GW2 yet!?
GW2 might have just a slight hint at Asian art, but the lore and the overall feel of the game still has that Western feel because its gritty and non-anime. Plus in GW2 you do not fight fluffy bunnie monsters, tree people and giant reindeers, you actually fight centaurs, bandits and dragons.
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I don't see why would I want to make a fugly woman since I'll be playing with my character... I don't see what's so wrong with having good looking female characters in game (since you can really customize and do a lot with it.. From stunningly beautiful to freakishly ugly) to some reasonable limit... You can't make a norn scarface if that's what you want, but in which mmorpg CAN you do that?
Charr... There's not much difference between female and male charr... You can't even tell the difference untill you give it a closer look Female charrs are a bit thinner and not so bulky but it's hard to tell untill you learn what to look at xD
BTW, are you saying all female soldiers or warriors should look ugly? Like you never saw a beautiful woman in uniform... I sure did...
You failed to comprehend my point completely. I have said repeatedly that I do not want to take away the beauty, but ADD variety to races that SHOULD have variety. Currently you cannot make even a pudgy female or one that is overly distinctive facial wise in the game... Again for no GOOD reason. If there was something in the lore, that would be a legitimate reason, but there is nothing like that and it certainly is not reflected in males and females equally.
So if a person wants to play a fat/ugly female the options are limited when they are fairly easy to add into a game. Currently males typically have much more freedom in this regard than females. The question is why?
I have yet to see any videos in GW2 that show Norn or Human sliders which achieve this basic concept. I find it odd and it certainly CONTRIBUTES to the hostile environment for female gamers. Something many of the people foaming at the mouth over my posts fail to comprehend. It is a game... So pushing an environment that objectifies and paints women in a certain light to promote pubescent dry humping is not something that should be encouraged. How many female gamers play male characters because they get tired of PMs asking "Are you really a girl?" or "S/A?" There is a predetory element to this kind of mindset which apparently several responding to this thread have no issue with. That in it self is disturbing.
I have taken a rather moderate position on this and what I get is apparently weak willed boys claiming I want to ruin their gaming experience. Adding the ability to tone down or vary appearance is not a negative thing. It certainly could help some players avoid the idiots clamering to cyber every digital toon with a 30 waist and double Ds. Also please defend games like Tera which have toons that are essentially 8 yr old girls dressed in animal ears and panties...
Now GW2 is certainly less provocative, but the previewer has a legitimate point. It won't stop me from playing GW2 (but did contribute to me completely avoiding Tera), however my OPINION which is all I expressed is not any less valid. Want to bet a C-Bill that there will be toons dancing in their underwear in the major cities asking for gold and items? That really adds to the game don't you think?
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But do I hate it? Naw. But don't hold it up as the standard when you review the game I am looking forward to.
Looks to me like he's just trying to explain how mechanics differeniate between the two games, not holding TOR up as some kind of standard.
It's kind of hard to tell, really. He's clearly bias going into the article, and seems rather fond of other games like WoW & TOR instead of GW2. I don't think he was blatantly trying to banner TOR as a standard, but the comparison was there.
To be honest though, I can say that TOR's cutscenes are a little better. GW2's are pretty good, but they do feel a bit more clunky at times when comparing them w/ TOR's. That said, as you play more of the personal story you do start to see that you're decisions actually matter, unlike in TOR, so there is a bit of a trade-off I suppose.
Yeah, I was referring to the two comments that was in reply to. I can see where people feel a bias was expressed in the article, but that was more in line with a preference to a type of game, and an Idea they don't have to change. I think that was a reaction toward A-nets core philosophy, I've noticed many view that philosophy as an out right attack on something they are and have been passionate about. I kind of look at the action oriented design decisions of late in the same way.
As for A-nets "cutscene" approach it reminds me of old-school JRPGs which I have no problem with at all.
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Yeah, I was referring to the two comments that was in reply to. I can see where people feel a bias was expressed in the article, but that was more in line with a preference to a type of game, and an Idea they don't have to change. I think that was a reaction toward A-nets core philosophy, I've noticed many view that philosophy as an out right attack on something they are and have been passionate about. I kind of look at the action oriented design decisions of late in the same way.
As for A-nets "cutscene" approach it reminds me of old-school JRPGs which I have no problem with at all.
I think you're absolutely right about that. And, ironically enough, thats why I don't have a problem with this article. While it may seem a bit obsurd to fans, it represents a very real fraction of the game's population. I think it's nice to see that people who go into this game w/ a somewhat abrassive mindset aren't immediately turned off by the game. However, we'll just have to see if more people like this give it the same play time, or if they log-in and immediately quit because it doesn't look like game X they used to love =/.
I don't think the fanboys really understand how great this review really was. See if he set himself up to fail , but came out with a postive review then the game wins. If i was a dev i would ask someone that hated my game to play what they thought was the worst and tell me the truth, anyone can pick the best and have a great review and fake the rest.
look at it like a movie preveiw. all the action and graphics and you think wow that was cool, then you get to the show and after 96 min you think crap, i seen all the good stuff in the preview.. he choose what you say was less the prefect and still had good things to say and thought it was going to be a good game WIN WIN WIN.. so clam down and think .
/facepalm.. you dont get it. I wouldn't read a movie review from say a guy movie critic.. HATES chick flicks but he goes to see one anyways so he can write a review, he may end up enjoying it but I still wouldn't read it because he set himself up to not enjoy it.
The GW2 fanboys are just flaming because it wasnt completely full of wild praise for the game, as they do for anything that isnt 110% positive.
I really am liking the sound of how the DE's work, allowing you to randomly come across HUGE battles and conribute even if they are meant for higher or lower levels than you.
This however worries me:
not needing to find players with particular skill-sets means that in my weekend with the game I hardly spoke to anyone, and made no lasting relationships. The circumstances will have played a role in this, but there was none of the development of trust and respect that goes with knowing, for example, that someone is a great healer
This makes it sound like levelling could be a very lonely experience. Of course, being in a guild will help this, but there should be incentives for people to actually talk to each other and interact with each other.
As i have stated before. How do you interact and talk to other players in all other MMO's? What MMO gives an incentive for people to actually talk to each other? The only time this happens is in Dugeons, or pvp. Even in SWtOR you could solo the "elite" elements.
I think a lot of it has to do with typing to communicate is a pain in the ass, especially in combat. If you don't need to talk, you won't. In EQ, you had to group and you had to communicate some (and you had downtime with healing or gaining mana back-giving you time to talk more). Today's games have got rid of a lot of the downtimes (not that it is a bad thing, just that it limits social time). And games that have the in game vent-like system, you can communicate easier, but less reasons to (with newer games) if you don't have to-such as content being easy to do/not requiring teamwork, no reason to stay in team for long periods (you finish the quest you need, so drop out of group to go back to solo), etc. also, I've seen in games is that only about half the people have the headsets to participate in conversations, or mic is broke so they only listen-it limits the social as no one wants to type a lot, so they are left out a bit..
I'm hoping the fact that combat (with powers/attack group combos) will entice people to group more and ned to communicate tactics (but if DE content too easy, i'm afraid they won't). I do think in wvw pvp there will be a great need to communicate and create more social community. Do they have an in-game group speak system? I just assumed they did.
I don't think the fanboys really understand how great this review really was. See if he set himself up to fail , but came out with a postive review then the game wins. If i was a dev i would ask someone that hated my game to play what they thought was the worst and tell me the truth, anyone can pick the best and have a great review and fake the rest.
look at it like a movie preveiw. all the action and graphics and you think wow that was cool, then you get to the show and after 96 min you think crap, i seen all the good stuff in the preview.. he choose what you say was less the prefect and still had good things to say and thought it was going to be a good game WIN WIN WIN.. so clam down and think .
/facepalm.. you dont get it. I wouldn't read a movie review from say a guy movie critic.. HATES chick flicks but he goes to see one anyways so he can write a review, he may end up enjoying it but I still wouldn't read it because he set himself up to not enjoy it.
Also.. this guy is NOT a gamer, check out his facebook page.
Obviously it is you that does not get it.
Despite making and playing a character that he is not really happy with looks wise, he writes an overall good preview, that show's GW2 to be a good, fun game in his opinion.
Anything else is irrelevant.
But keep clutching at straws to negate the article, what will you say next, that the article is not valid because the guy that wrote it has blonde hair?
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I don't think the fanboys really understand how great this review really was. See if he set himself up to fail , but came out with a postive review then the game wins. If i was a dev i would ask someone that hated my game to play what they thought was the worst and tell me the truth, anyone can pick the best and have a great review and fake the rest.
look at it like a movie preveiw. all the action and graphics and you think wow that was cool, then you get to the show and after 96 min you think crap, i seen all the good stuff in the preview.. he choose what you say was less the prefect and still had good things to say and thought it was going to be a good game WIN WIN WIN.. so clam down and think .
/facepalm.. you dont get it. I wouldn't read a movie review from say a guy movie critic.. HATES chick flicks but he goes to see one anyways so he can write a review, he may end up enjoying it but I still wouldn't read it because he set himself up to not enjoy it.
Obviously it is you that does not get it.
Despite making and playing a character that he is not really happy with looks wise, he writes an overall good preview, that show's GW2 to be a good, fun game in his opinion.
Anything else is irrelevant.
But keep clutching at straws to negate the article, what will you say next, that the article is not valid because the guy that wrote it has blonde hair?
I'm still wondering what she meant by "the guy's not even a gamer, look at his facebook, which out of morbid curiosity I did, and I was left with, WTH does this have to do with being a gamer?
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Interesting article. Article makes DE sound seemingly like Rift's rifts, if you ask me.
edit: made link clickable.
Very good preview, thanx for the link OP.
Regarding over-beautification of human race, he was too moderate in criticism. Because of this direction, GW and GW2 looks like a usual generic asian MMO imho. Are there any unicorns in GW2 yet!?
GW2 might have just a slight hint at Asian art, but the lore and the overall feel of the game still has that Western feel because its gritty and non-anime. Plus in GW2 you do not fight fluffy bunnie monsters, tree people and giant reindeers, you actually fight centaurs, bandits and dragons.
yeah you fight bandits, centaurs and dragons with a fluffy bunny like creature called asura. Whats up with double standards? if you are trying to prove that GW2 is griity and mature what about cute looking asura?
I learned not to believe anyones Preview, ohhh how they said AoC was amazing, and SWTOR was incredible, these companies are a joke, best preview is your own, play it then you decide, never listen to anyone. end of story
You failed to comprehend my point completely. I have said repeatedly that I do not want to take away the beauty, but ADD variety to races that SHOULD have variety. Currently you cannot make even a pudgy female or one that is overly distinctive facial wise in the game... Again for no GOOD reason. If there was something in the lore, that would be a legitimate reason, but there is nothing like that and it certainly is not reflected in males and females equally.
So if a person wants to play a fat/ugly female the options are limited when they are fairly easy to add into a game. Currently males typically have much more freedom in this regard than females. The question is why?
I have yet to see any videos in GW2 that show Norn or Human sliders which achieve this basic concept. I find it odd and it certainly CONTRIBUTES to the hostile environment for female gamers. Something many of the people foaming at the mouth over my posts fail to comprehend. It is a game... So pushing an environment that objectifies and paints women in a certain light to promote pubescent dry humping is not something that should be encouraged. How many female gamers play male characters because they get tired of PMs asking "Are you really a girl?" or "S/A?" There is a predetory element to this kind of mindset which apparently several responding to this thread have no issue with. That in it self is disturbing.
I have taken a rather moderate position on this and what I get is apparently weak willed boys claiming I want to ruin their gaming experience. Adding the ability to tone down or vary appearance is not a negative thing. It certainly could help some players avoid the idiots clamering to cyber every digital toon with a 30 waist and double Ds. Also please defend games like Tera which have toons that are essentially 8 yr old girls dressed in animal ears and panties...
Now GW2 is certainly less provocative, but the previewer has a legitimate point. It won't stop me from playing GW2 (but did contribute to me completely avoiding Tera), however my OPINION which is all I expressed is not any less valid. Want to bet a C-Bill that there will be toons dancing in their underwear in the major cities asking for gold and items? That really adds to the game don't you think?
I've not read this whole thread. Lots of posts! I agree with you definately on the Tera thing. Honestly, a race of small children dressed in grown women's clothes? What is that mess? Wrong and weird but my opinion so :P if you don't agree. It's like an episode of that stupid beauty pagent show for kids where they feed their kids go-go juice. *rant*
As for female gamers and the stuff they put up with. Most people from my experience assume the majority of female characters are guys. Only on vent or such will someone be surprised I don't have a deep voice. I have occassionally gotten weird comments in some games (not ever on vent! ) but I expect this is from someone who has never seen a real girl up close anyway. I take great satisfaction knowing they are also trying to chat up other female characters some of which may be driven about by a big hairy dude named Bubba! Honestly the comments have been very rare and I have played a lot of games. I also don't generally complain to people if I do get a comment, I put said person on ignore and move on and have only ever had to report one person for seriously wacky behaviour. And the character I was playing at the time while female, had cow feet. Go figure! Maybe he had a thing for cows who knows?
While I think the clothes in GW2 are fine and the body types are ok, (there are no sliders btw, but there are choices!) scars and such are an important feature. It's a battle after all and if given the choice I'd rather be a fashionable if a bit war worn fighter. Basically the more options/choices the better anyway and that goes for both male and female characters.
yeah you fight bandits, centaurs and dragons with a fluffy bunny like creature called asura. Whats up with double standards? if you are trying to prove that GW2 is griity and mature what about cute looking asura?
Why do people find the Asura cute? Sure they have cute voices but I found them pretty freaky in GW1 with their piranha teeth
I don't think the fanboys really understand how great this review really was. See if he set himself up to fail , but came out with a postive review then the game wins. If i was a dev i would ask someone that hated my game to play what they thought was the worst and tell me the truth, anyone can pick the best and have a great review and fake the rest.
look at it like a movie preveiw. all the action and graphics and you think wow that was cool, then you get to the show and after 96 min you think crap, i seen all the good stuff in the preview.. he choose what you say was less the prefect and still had good things to say and thought it was going to be a good game WIN WIN WIN.. so clam down and think .
/facepalm.. you dont get it. I wouldn't read a movie review from say a guy movie critic.. HATES chick flicks but he goes to see one anyways so he can write a review, he may end up enjoying it but I still wouldn't read it because he set himself up to not enjoy it.
Also.. this guy is NOT a gamer, check out his facebook page.
Obviously it is you that does not get it.
Despite making and playing a character that he is not really happy with looks wise, he writes an overall good preview, that show's GW2 to be a good, fun game in his opinion.
Anything else is irrelevant.
But keep clutching at straws to negate the article, what will you say next, that the article is not valid because the guy that wrote it has blonde hair?
I honestly do not care if a guy who isn't a gamer(look at his FB) writing an article for a paycheck who goes in biased and insulting half the playerbase has to say.. good or bad. No one should.. his opinion doesn't mean anything its just fluff and looks pretty on the page with screenshots. This type of article is how faulty opinions of games form... good or bad.
yeah you fight bandits, centaurs and dragons with a fluffy bunny like creature called asura. Whats up with double standards? if you are trying to prove that GW2 is griity and mature what about cute looking asura?
Why do people find the Asura cute? Sure they have cute voices but I found them pretty freaky in GW1 with their piranha teeth
Guess you didn't stare in those big cute eyes long enough lol
I don't think the fanboys really understand how great this review really was. See if he set himself up to fail , but came out with a postive review then the game wins. If i was a dev i would ask someone that hated my game to play what they thought was the worst and tell me the truth, anyone can pick the best and have a great review and fake the rest.
look at it like a movie preveiw. all the action and graphics and you think wow that was cool, then you get to the show and after 96 min you think crap, i seen all the good stuff in the preview.. he choose what you say was less the prefect and still had good things to say and thought it was going to be a good game WIN WIN WIN.. so clam down and think .
/facepalm.. you dont get it. I wouldn't read a movie review from say a guy movie critic.. HATES chick flicks but he goes to see one anyways so he can write a review, he may end up enjoying it but I still wouldn't read it because he set himself up to not enjoy it.
Also.. this guy is NOT a gamer, check out his facebook page.
Obviously it is you that does not get it.
Despite making and playing a character that he is not really happy with looks wise, he writes an overall good preview, that show's GW2 to be a good, fun game in his opinion.
Anything else is irrelevant.
But keep clutching at straws to negate the article, what will you say next, that the article is not valid because the guy that wrote it has blonde hair?
I honestly do not care if a guy who isn't a gamer(look at his FB) writing an article for a paycheck who goes in biased and insulting half the playerbase has to say.. good or bad. No one should.. his opinion doesn't mean anything its just fluff and looks pretty on the page with screenshots. This type of article is how faulty opinions of games form... good or bad.
He didn't insult anyone..now you are just going off tangent on a rant.
he is writing an article.. it is his job to be unbiased... .
I dont know if I honestly believe this. I have never seen a games magazine give a negative preview. I have seen a few negative points mentioned but almost universally they are positive and make you want to play the game. The trouble is, gamer magazines make money from advertising and game companies advertise. You dont want to make a company mad by being honest that you hated their game in the preview because then they wont invite you to the next game to preview and they might not advertise in your magazine as much.
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I don't think the fanboys really understand how great this review really was. See if he set himself up to fail , but came out with a postive review then the game wins. If i was a dev i would ask someone that hated my game to play what they thought was the worst and tell me the truth, anyone can pick the best and have a great review and fake the rest.
look at it like a movie preveiw. all the action and graphics and you think wow that was cool, then you get to the show and after 96 min you think crap, i seen all the good stuff in the preview.. he choose what you say was less the prefect and still had good things to say and thought it was going to be a good game WIN WIN WIN.. so clam down and think .
/facepalm.. you dont get it. I wouldn't read a movie review from say a guy movie critic.. HATES chick flicks but he goes to see one anyways so he can write a review, he may end up enjoying it but I still wouldn't read it because he set himself up to not enjoy it.
Obviously it is you that does not get it.
Despite making and playing a character that he is not really happy with looks wise, he writes an overall good preview, that show's GW2 to be a good, fun game in his opinion.
Anything else is irrelevant.
But keep clutching at straws to negate the article, what will you say next, that the article is not valid because the guy that wrote it has blonde hair?
I'm still wondering what she meant by "the guy's not even a gamer, look at his facebook, which out of morbid curiosity I did, and I was left with, WTH does this have to do with being a gamer?
not one liked game, ect you can learn a lot about a person from their FB page. Also I removed that bit the second the site stopped lagging at let me =P its not even in the quote so ppl are probably confused.
Agreed with most others. Felt the article was well done and balanced. Actually went in with a negative view and his play time changed his mind.
In terms of SWTOR, its not a bad game and deserves praise for what it is. Just because you (in general) dont like the game for whatever reason should take away from what was delivered. With emphasis put on the story over the gameplay -- which I gander some find fun and interesting.
It just looks like Arena.NET is really trying to deliver what they promised. Cant wait to see how they handle udpates (especially looking forward to housing).
why are so many bent out of shape about this article? because he didn't put gw2 on a pedestal? you guys need to get some thicker skin, and stop getting so defensive. i took it as a fair preview, he hardly spoke ill of the game. he gave his opinion of a beta weekend. as more people are going to start playing the game, and giving their opinions, not everyone will call it Jesus. as a non-fanboy, but someone who is looking forward to this game, it was a nice preview. he baasically told us stuff we already know. the game is gonna be good, but not without faults.
I don't think the fanboys really understand how great this review really was. See if he set himself up to fail , but came out with a postive review then the game wins. If i was a dev i would ask someone that hated my game to play what they thought was the worst and tell me the truth, anyone can pick the best and have a great review and fake the rest.
look at it like a movie preveiw. all the action and graphics and you think wow that was cool, then you get to the show and after 96 min you think crap, i seen all the good stuff in the preview.. he choose what you say was less the prefect and still had good things to say and thought it was going to be a good game WIN WIN WIN.. so clam down and think .
/facepalm.. you dont get it. I wouldn't read a movie review from say a guy movie critic.. HATES chick flicks but he goes to see one anyways so he can write a review, he may end up enjoying it but I still wouldn't read it because he set himself up to not enjoy it.
Obviously it is you that does not get it.
Despite making and playing a character that he is not really happy with looks wise, he writes an overall good preview, that show's GW2 to be a good, fun game in his opinion.
Anything else is irrelevant.
But keep clutching at straws to negate the article, what will you say next, that the article is not valid because the guy that wrote it has blonde hair?
I'm still wondering what she meant by "the guy's not even a gamer, look at his facebook, which out of morbid curiosity I did, and I was left with, WTH does this have to do with being a gamer?
not one liked game, ect you can learn a lot about a person from their FB page. Also I removed that bit the second the site stopped lagging at let me =P its not even in the quote so ppl are probably confused.
haha are you serious? I have no liked games on FB either, guess Im not a gamer as well lol
As I said, clutching at straws...
A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.
Agreed with most others. Felt the article was well done and balanced. Actually went in with a negative view and his play time changed his mind.
In terms of SWTOR, its not a bad game and deserves praise for what it is. Just because you (in general) dont like the game for whatever reason should take away from what was delivered. With emphasis put on the story over the gameplay -- which I gander some find fun and interesting.
It just looks like Arena.NET is really trying to deliver what they promised. Cant wait to see how they handle udpates (especially looking forward to housing).
Just brace yourself because it is going to happen a lot.
Look at this guy ariboersma for example going nuts even though article is mostly positive. Some fans are so fanatic that even a little negativity is enough to send them into full rage.
why are so many bent out of shape about this article? because he didn't put gw2 on a pedestal? you guys need to get some thicker skin, and stop getting so defensive. i took it as a fair preview, he hardly spoke ill of the game. he gave his opinion of a beta weekend. as more people are going to start playing the game, and giving their opinions, not everyone will call it Jesus. as a non-fanboy, but someone who is looking forward to this game, it was a nice preview. he baasically told us stuff we already know. the game is gonna be good, but not without faults.
THIS, so much.
Look, I won't surprise anyone who looks at my post history when I say I am a fan of the series. But I was SO happy to read this article.
Why?
The guy obviously wasn't a raving fanboy, and came into the game very skeptical. By the time he left he had a fairly positive, though reserved, outlook. I like that. He gave the good AND the bad, and that's more of what we need to see.
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It's kind of hard to tell, really. He's clearly bias going into the article, and seems rather fond of other games like WoW & TOR instead of GW2. I don't think he was blatantly trying to banner TOR as a standard, but the comparison was there.
To be honest though, I can say that TOR's cutscenes are a little better. GW2's are pretty good, but they do feel a bit more clunky at times when comparing them w/ TOR's. That said, as you play more of the personal story you do start to see that you're decisions actually matter, unlike in TOR, so there is a bit of a trade-off I suppose.
I tend to try and find some more honest player reviews(not an easy thing). But other than that I agree. And for me i would have added lotro's 10/10, what warrented that score I still don't know.
GW2 might have just a slight hint at Asian art, but the lore and the overall feel of the game still has that Western feel because its gritty and non-anime. Plus in GW2 you do not fight fluffy bunnie monsters, tree people and giant reindeers, you actually fight centaurs, bandits and dragons.
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You failed to comprehend my point completely. I have said repeatedly that I do not want to take away the beauty, but ADD variety to races that SHOULD have variety. Currently you cannot make even a pudgy female or one that is overly distinctive facial wise in the game... Again for no GOOD reason. If there was something in the lore, that would be a legitimate reason, but there is nothing like that and it certainly is not reflected in males and females equally.
So if a person wants to play a fat/ugly female the options are limited when they are fairly easy to add into a game. Currently males typically have much more freedom in this regard than females. The question is why?
I have yet to see any videos in GW2 that show Norn or Human sliders which achieve this basic concept. I find it odd and it certainly CONTRIBUTES to the hostile environment for female gamers. Something many of the people foaming at the mouth over my posts fail to comprehend. It is a game... So pushing an environment that objectifies and paints women in a certain light to promote pubescent dry humping is not something that should be encouraged. How many female gamers play male characters because they get tired of PMs asking "Are you really a girl?" or "S/A?" There is a predetory element to this kind of mindset which apparently several responding to this thread have no issue with. That in it self is disturbing.
I have taken a rather moderate position on this and what I get is apparently weak willed boys claiming I want to ruin their gaming experience. Adding the ability to tone down or vary appearance is not a negative thing. It certainly could help some players avoid the idiots clamering to cyber every digital toon with a 30 waist and double Ds. Also please defend games like Tera which have toons that are essentially 8 yr old girls dressed in animal ears and panties...
Please defend this:
http://www.terafans.com/uploads/1266885698/gallery_24_4_244985.jpg
Now GW2 is certainly less provocative, but the previewer has a legitimate point. It won't stop me from playing GW2 (but did contribute to me completely avoiding Tera), however my OPINION which is all I expressed is not any less valid. Want to bet a C-Bill that there will be toons dancing in their underwear in the major cities asking for gold and items? That really adds to the game don't you think?
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
Yeah, I was referring to the two comments that was in reply to. I can see where people feel a bias was expressed in the article, but that was more in line with a preference to a type of game, and an Idea they don't have to change. I think that was a reaction toward A-nets core philosophy, I've noticed many view that philosophy as an out right attack on something they are and have been passionate about. I kind of look at the action oriented design decisions of late in the same way.
As for A-nets "cutscene" approach it reminds me of old-school JRPGs which I have no problem with at all.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I think you're absolutely right about that. And, ironically enough, thats why I don't have a problem with this article. While it may seem a bit obsurd to fans, it represents a very real fraction of the game's population. I think it's nice to see that people who go into this game w/ a somewhat abrassive mindset aren't immediately turned off by the game. However, we'll just have to see if more people like this give it the same play time, or if they log-in and immediately quit because it doesn't look like game X they used to love =/.
/facepalm.. you dont get it. I wouldn't read a movie review from say a guy movie critic.. HATES chick flicks but he goes to see one anyways so he can write a review, he may end up enjoying it but I still wouldn't read it because he set himself up to not enjoy it.
I think a lot of it has to do with typing to communicate is a pain in the ass, especially in combat. If you don't need to talk, you won't. In EQ, you had to group and you had to communicate some (and you had downtime with healing or gaining mana back-giving you time to talk more). Today's games have got rid of a lot of the downtimes (not that it is a bad thing, just that it limits social time). And games that have the in game vent-like system, you can communicate easier, but less reasons to (with newer games) if you don't have to-such as content being easy to do/not requiring teamwork, no reason to stay in team for long periods (you finish the quest you need, so drop out of group to go back to solo), etc. also, I've seen in games is that only about half the people have the headsets to participate in conversations, or mic is broke so they only listen-it limits the social as no one wants to type a lot, so they are left out a bit..
I'm hoping the fact that combat (with powers/attack group combos) will entice people to group more and ned to communicate tactics (but if DE content too easy, i'm afraid they won't). I do think in wvw pvp there will be a great need to communicate and create more social community. Do they have an in-game group speak system? I just assumed they did.
Obviously it is you that does not get it.
Despite making and playing a character that he is not really happy with looks wise, he writes an overall good preview, that show's GW2 to be a good, fun game in his opinion.
Anything else is irrelevant.
But keep clutching at straws to negate the article, what will you say next, that the article is not valid because the guy that wrote it has blonde hair?
A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.
I'm still wondering what she meant by "the guy's not even a gamer, look at his facebook, which out of morbid curiosity I did, and I was left with, WTH does this have to do with being a gamer?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
yeah you fight bandits, centaurs and dragons with a fluffy bunny like creature called asura. Whats up with double standards? if you are trying to prove that GW2 is griity and mature what about cute looking asura?
Cha-Ching
Playing GW2..
I've not read this whole thread. Lots of posts! I agree with you definately on the Tera thing. Honestly, a race of small children dressed in grown women's clothes? What is that mess? Wrong and weird but my opinion so :P if you don't agree. It's like an episode of that stupid beauty pagent show for kids where they feed their kids go-go juice. *rant*
As for female gamers and the stuff they put up with. Most people from my experience assume the majority of female characters are guys. Only on vent or such will someone be surprised I don't have a deep voice. I have occassionally gotten weird comments in some games (not ever on vent! ) but I expect this is from someone who has never seen a real girl up close anyway. I take great satisfaction knowing they are also trying to chat up other female characters some of which may be driven about by a big hairy dude named Bubba! Honestly the comments have been very rare and I have played a lot of games. I also don't generally complain to people if I do get a comment, I put said person on ignore and move on and have only ever had to report one person for seriously wacky behaviour. And the character I was playing at the time while female, had cow feet. Go figure! Maybe he had a thing for cows who knows?
While I think the clothes in GW2 are fine and the body types are ok, (there are no sliders btw, but there are choices!) scars and such are an important feature. It's a battle after all and if given the choice I'd rather be a fashionable if a bit war worn fighter. Basically the more options/choices the better anyway and that goes for both male and female characters.
the poster formerly known as melangel :P
Why do people find the Asura cute? Sure they have cute voices but I found them pretty freaky in GW1 with their piranha teeth
the poster formerly known as melangel :P
I honestly do not care if a guy who isn't a gamer(look at his FB) writing an article for a paycheck who goes in biased and insulting half the playerbase has to say.. good or bad. No one should.. his opinion doesn't mean anything its just fluff and looks pretty on the page with screenshots. This type of article is how faulty opinions of games form... good or bad.
Guess you didn't stare in those big cute eyes long enough lol
Please explain?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
He didn't insult anyone..now you are just going off tangent on a rant.
I dont know if I honestly believe this. I have never seen a games magazine give a negative preview. I have seen a few negative points mentioned but almost universally they are positive and make you want to play the game. The trouble is, gamer magazines make money from advertising and game companies advertise. You dont want to make a company mad by being honest that you hated their game in the preview because then they wont invite you to the next game to preview and they might not advertise in your magazine as much.
not one liked game, ect you can learn a lot about a person from their FB page. Also I removed that bit the second the site stopped lagging at let me =P its not even in the quote so ppl are probably confused.
Agreed with most others. Felt the article was well done and balanced. Actually went in with a negative view and his play time changed his mind.
In terms of SWTOR, its not a bad game and deserves praise for what it is. Just because you (in general) dont like the game for whatever reason should take away from what was delivered. With emphasis put on the story over the gameplay -- which I gander some find fun and interesting.
It just looks like Arena.NET is really trying to deliver what they promised. Cant wait to see how they handle udpates (especially looking forward to housing).
why are so many bent out of shape about this article? because he didn't put gw2 on a pedestal? you guys need to get some thicker skin, and stop getting so defensive. i took it as a fair preview, he hardly spoke ill of the game. he gave his opinion of a beta weekend. as more people are going to start playing the game, and giving their opinions, not everyone will call it Jesus. as a non-fanboy, but someone who is looking forward to this game, it was a nice preview. he baasically told us stuff we already know. the game is gonna be good, but not without faults.
I've got the straight edge.
haha are you serious? I have no liked games on FB either, guess Im not a gamer as well lol
As I said, clutching at straws...
A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.
Just brace yourself because it is going to happen a lot.
Look at this guy ariboersma for example going nuts even though article is mostly positive. Some fans are so fanatic that even a little negativity is enough to send them into full rage.
THIS, so much.
Look, I won't surprise anyone who looks at my post history when I say I am a fan of the series. But I was SO happy to read this article.
Why?
The guy obviously wasn't a raving fanboy, and came into the game very skeptical. By the time he left he had a fairly positive, though reserved, outlook. I like that. He gave the good AND the bad, and that's more of what we need to see.