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What the hell is all this pollution with "Tera is wonderful"-threads?

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  • wrightstufwrightstuf Member UncommonPosts: 659

    Originally posted by Pivotelite

    Originally posted by Rasputin


    Originally posted by Kehdar

    So, if i'm not mistaken, you are asking why on TERA board there are people talking about TERA in a positive way?

    Am I right?

    Or did I miss something?

    I see TERA dominating the front page "Current Forum Activity" field, together with SWTOR (well

     

    , not so much anymore), D3 and  That is the pollution I am talking about, and which I don't understand, based on what I have seen. People have dumped every single clone since WoW, so hard, that they are all but ghost towns today, and they continue hyping new clones? Why? Stop and think for a second instead, maybe? 

     

     

    So you think TERA is a WoW clone? Well, you just killed your own thread.

     

    Also people talking about TERA, are all playing it, it's not hype, we've been playing it for over a damn month.  And a select few of us for several months over in Korea.



    It was dead before it started.

    It would amaze me if anyone took the OP seriously

  • troublmakertroublmaker Member Posts: 337

    Honestly my problem with TERA is how viral the marketing for the game is.

    They released a website and Facebook group called "MMOFO" in which a campaign was starting to make MMOs hard.  People signed up for this thinking it was some kind of petition style website where gamers would come together and proest easy MMOs.  After a month of this bullshit the Facebook group transformed into a TERA IS THE HERO campaign and suddenly MMOFO shows up on the TERA website.

    Because of this viral campaign and because so many game devs have been caught paying professional forum posters to hype up games... I distrust anyone who says TERA is a great game.  I'm especially sketical when said posters are brand new to the website only have a hand full of posts and all those posts are about how awesome TERA is.

  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by troublmaker

    Honestly my problem with TERA is how viral the marketing for the game is.

    They released a website and Facebook group called "MMOFO" in which a campaign was starting to make MMOs hard.  People signed up for this thinking it was some kind of petition style website where gamers would come together and proest easy MMOs.  After a month of this bullshit the Facebook group transformed into a TERA IS THE HERO campaign and suddenly MMOFO shows up on the TERA website.

    Because of this viral campaign and because so many game devs have been caught paying professional forum posters to hype up games... I distrust anyone who says TERA is a great game.  I'm especially sketical when said posters are brand new to the website only have a hand full of posts and all those posts are about how awesome TERA is.

    Err sure you didn't get GW2 and Tera mixed up here? Tera by far has the least marketing, beside mmfo which honestly i can't even take seriously, i find them a good laugh. And people who enjoy Tera posting on the Tera thread about them liking Tera omg.... world is ending. So all game threads have to be full of people telling everyone else how shitty the game is compare to xxx and everyone who disagree is stupid? Idk man i perfer this more postive trend.

  • troublmakertroublmaker Member Posts: 337

    Originally posted by rexzshadow

    Originally posted by troublmaker

    Honestly my problem with TERA is how viral the marketing for the game is.

    They released a website and Facebook group called "MMOFO" in which a campaign was starting to make MMOs hard.  People signed up for this thinking it was some kind of petition style website where gamers would come together and proest easy MMOs.  After a month of this bullshit the Facebook group transformed into a TERA IS THE HERO campaign and suddenly MMOFO shows up on the TERA website.

    Because of this viral campaign and because so many game devs have been caught paying professional forum posters to hype up games... I distrust anyone who says TERA is a great game.  I'm especially sketical when said posters are brand new to the website only have a hand full of posts and all those posts are about how awesome TERA is.

    Err sure you didn't get GW2 and Tera mixed up here? Tera by far has the least marketing, beside mmfo which honestly i can't even take seriously, i find them a good laugh. And people who enjoy Tera posting on the Tera thread about them liking Tera omg.... world is ending. So all game threads have to be full of people telling everyone else how shitty the game is compare to xxx and everyone who disagree is stupid? Idk man i perfer this more postive trend.

    The forum marketing is really really cheap and super effective.  It's kind of like how you barely ever see Apple commercials around because Apple spends a lot of money lining the pockets of Hollywood to show their products in movies.

    Guild Wars 2 seems to have more upfront marketing with their banners everywhere.  TERA I am suspicious is doing some viral campaigning which is cheaper and largely more effective.

    If they hired ten people to spend a month going on forums and saying OMG BUY THIS GAME ITS AWESOME they will get more sales out of it than from paying for pre-sale banner advertisements on these same forums based websites.

  • palulalulapalulalula Member UncommonPosts: 651

    Fail thread and maybe worst one in last month

  • XakotXakot Member Posts: 17

    Originally posted by Rasputin

    Originally posted by Chrisbox

    OP compared TERA to WoW.  If you think TERA is anything like WoW you are either a terrible gamer or did not play TERA for more than 10 minutes. /Thread.

    I didn't play the game at all. It takes a split second to dissect the gameplay from a youtube video.

    I didn't eat the pizza at all. It takes a split second to dissect the general sense of taste from a Foodnetwork video.

    I didn't watch the Transformers movie at all. It takes a split second to dissect the similiarities of the plot from a old Voltron video.

    "Yeah i read the wikipedia page for Twilight and then Harry Potter and noticed they like both had werewolves named black so i decided they must both be bad cause they were copying each other but i never read either one. Its cool though cause i read the internet all the time so im like an expert on this reading thing even though i havent tried either one. Im mad though cause all these people are like talkin about them and stuff and i see it on forums but they must be bad cause of my preconcieved idea that they are even though i dont know anything about them."

     

    Same arguement same fail. Play tera and give useful KNOWLEDGABLE feed back, hate it, love it, suggestions, etc, or simply STFU.

     

  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by troublmaker

    The forum marketing is really really cheap and super effective.  It's kind of like how you barely ever see Apple commercials around because Apple spends a lot of money lining the pockets of Hollywood to show their products in movies.

    Guild Wars 2 seems to have more upfront marketing with their banners everywhere.  TERA I am suspicious is doing some viral campaigning which is cheaper and largely more effective.

    If they hired ten people to spend a month going on forums and saying OMG BUY THIS GAME ITS AWESOME they will get more sales out of it than from paying for pre-sale banner advertisements on these same forums based websites.

    You mean like how GW2 fans go to EVERY other game forum telling people how much GW2 is better than that game and that game is trash? Ya Tera fans enjoying a game they like, posting on TERA forum is some how a viral campaign? Than GW2 be like super viral campaign.

  • Deron_BarakDeron_Barak Member Posts: 1,136
    Trust me, if people were getting paid to forum rally they would be doing it in every single game forum. People posting threads in that specific game's section is, um, kind of the point of it being there. It's discussion at the very least and what else would fans of a game talk about other than how much they like the game.

    I am much more leery of people coming over from other sections looking for any way to bring another game up... constantly. Oh well, such us the way or these forums. How anyone actually gets information I don't know lol.

    Just not worth my time anymore.

  • RasputinRasputin Member UncommonPosts: 602

    Originally posted by toddze

    Originally posted by Rasputin


    Originally posted by Chrisbox

    OP compared TERA to WoW.  If you think TERA is anything like WoW you are either a terrible gamer or did not play TERA for more than 10 minutes. /Thread.

    I didn't play the game at all. It takes a split second to dissect the gameplay from a youtube video.

    tell me a game your looking foward to and ill rip it apart. It doesnt matter which game you pick, even if its the same one I am looking foward to, I can rip it to shreds. If you take me up on my offer please make it halfway challeneging for me becasue GW2 and TSW is far to easy to rip a new one. I can debate anything wheather I agree with it or not .image

    I look forward to Planetside 2 as more or less the only one.

  • RasputinRasputin Member UncommonPosts: 602

    Originally posted by Ulrick28

    Having played Tera for a way too large amount of this weekend (with my friends and I deciding to pre-order it last night).  Tera may look like WoW in videos but the gameplay is completely not WoW.  Everyone already knows about the fact there is no tabbed targetting.  The game is beautiful (both style and technically).  It is a bit oversexualized in some spots but overall it's pretty. 

    Interestingly I have not read a single quest dialog in the game.  I generally get quest, immediately dismiss dialog, go do stuff.  The draw is how fun the combat is.  Watching a warrior fight is amazing (very fast paced combat).  

    The crafting is a bit tedious (you need harvests, drops from mobs, and items purchased from vendors).

    At level 20 my friends and I ran across a giant rock 'egg' in valley of the titans.  One of them decided to attack it.  it unfurled into a giant rock spider that proceeded to wreak havoc on the group.  From the rolling up and rolling over people, to jumping up in the air and slamming down on people, to the super rapid frontal attack that was a like jackhammer.  Needless to say we died very very fast but it was a blast to watch.

    1) Combat - Very very different from WoW (think first person shooter meets fantasy MMO).  Melee classes are a bit like playing God of War.

    2) Questing - Very similar to WoW. 

    3) Tradeskills - more involved than WoW (multiple group members harvesting from the same node is a nice touch).

    4) World Bosses - A LOT cooler than WoW (sorry for the cooler, but that sums it up).

    5) Classes are a mish mash of WoW classes (ie, Warrior is similar to WoW rogue, Mystic is a mashup of warlock and priest, etc).

    6) Graphics - Much better than WoW.  The difference is night and day.

    Tera is a lot of what I wished Aion and Final Fantasy xiv had been (and what they promised in a lot of cases).

    The only argument I have heard so far, that distinguishes TERA from WoW, is combat system. I am sorry, but that is not enough, it is simple game mechanics, and if it is the only difference, then I will still stand by my clone claim: You are still running around in a quest threadmill, running from area to area as if on railroads, experiencing exactly what everyone else is, leveling up to endgame, while collecting gear. I simply cannot see the overall difference, even if the small element of combat is different.

  • PivotelitePivotelite Member UncommonPosts: 2,145

    But I can level totally different in TERA than I can in WoW, I can group up with some frieds and grind BAM repeatable quests from zone to zone.

     

    BAMs are basically boss monsters as in they give massive xp, good loot and take a while to kill, but they are all over the game world and you can level up primarily on them, both the xp from killing them and the repeatable quests.

     

    I can stack 50/5 Ovoliths with my group then we turn it in ten times and go back or proceed to higher level BAMs if we leveled enough...

     

    then when we get bored, we roam around picking fights with everyone in FFA OWPvP or declare a guildwar and go hunting.

     

    that is why TERA is different from WoW, along with combat.

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  • elyssariaelyssaria Member UncommonPosts: 45

    Originally posted by rexzshadow

    Different combat, completely different art style, no faction instead of faction, there is guild wars, better graphics (from a techinical stand point), and a political system. Unless you want to count the standard of most theme park mmorpgs than everythign woudl look like WoW becaue all theme park have the same basic structure.

    To defence of the OP:

    Well, the graphics when I played the late beta was NOT very nice... cartoonish and quite boring and the textures at distance felt like some kind waterpaint paintings. The colors was however quite refreshing.

    The combat however I cannot see what would make it that special.... I mean sure your got to aim but really especially when playing a caster it was pretty much the same as other mmorpgs especially when you use casting on mouseover. Also as a caster you had to stay still when casting so wasn't really different at all. I would even say that the combat was even more dull compared to what I am used too.. the monsters AI was really not good and the aggro ranges was way to small.

    Regarding the PVP I have not that much experience so I cannot say to much about it but I really don't consider this being a new ultima, shadowbane or even moreso Darkfall or Mortal Online

    The questing: I must say the the questing was one of the worst parts with tera, it was like getting 10 years back in time. Many many many of the famous "kill x of this creature" and "Talk/Deliver this to X NPC". I really really find such quests boring after having them for 18 years now.

    Will I play it? Not decided yet.. I think I will pass on it though due to so many other titles being released.. ie Diablo III, Guildwars 2 and The Secret World. However I dare to say it is a wow clone and imo a worse one I predict a quick rise in subscription but an equally decent after a few month.

    Final words: This is not a post to troll (just because I am not praising the game), but more so my personal input of what I think of the game in the current state
  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Originally posted by Rasputin

    /snip

     

    The only argument I have heard so far, that distinguishes TERA from WoW, is combat system. I am sorry, but that is not enough, it is simple game mechanics, and if it is the only difference, then I will still stand by my clone claim: You are still running around in a quest threadmill, running from area to area as if on railroads, experiencing exactly what everyone else is, leveling up to endgame, while collecting gear. I simply cannot see the overall difference, even if the small element of combat is different.

    Well if you had spent some time playing the game for an extended time perhaps you could understand what these people are trying to convey to you.

    As your title to this thread states,  you seem like you are just poo-pooing about people having fun in tera. 

    I'm sorry but this is the TERA forum section and WE FANS like to talk about tera,  if you don't like it then piss off and leave.

     

     

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  • Chrome1980Chrome1980 Member Posts: 511

    Originally posted by Rasputin

    Originally posted by toddze


    Originally posted by Rasputin


    Originally posted by Chrisbox

    OP compared TERA to WoW.  If you think TERA is anything like WoW you are either a terrible gamer or did not play TERA for more than 10 minutes. /Thread.

    I didn't play the game at all. It takes a split second to dissect the gameplay from a youtube video.

    tell me a game your looking foward to and ill rip it apart. It doesnt matter which game you pick, even if its the same one I am looking foward to, I can rip it to shreds. If you take me up on my offer please make it halfway challeneging for me becasue GW2 and TSW is far to easy to rip a new one. I can debate anything wheather I agree with it or not .image

    I look forward to Planetside 2 as more or less the only one.

    PS2 is garbage, sorry buddy. With track record of SOE you will only end up with a broken game and nickle dimed to hell and back. I saw you tube videos and thought 'why the hell is this game polluting you tube?' 

    *whistles*

  • elyssariaelyssaria Member UncommonPosts: 45

    Originally posted by stayontarget

    I'm sorry but this is the TERA forum section and WE FANS like to talk about tera,  if you don't like it then piss off and leave.

     

     

    That makes sense indeed and the OP should understand that there are more posivtive posts then negative ones in a forum dedicated to the game itself. However being a forum dedicated to a game doesn't mean that only positive things are allowed to be said.

    Then I can agree that his first post could have been written in a better way with a bit less "taunting".

     

    /Ely

  • KehdarKehdar Member UncommonPosts: 441

    Originally posted by troublmaker

     

    The forum marketing is really really cheap and super effective.  It's kind of like how you barely ever see Apple commercials around because Apple spends a lot of money lining the pockets of Hollywood to show their products in movies.

    Guild Wars 2 seems to have more upfront marketing with their banners everywhere.  TERA I am suspicious is doing some viral campaigning which is cheaper and largely more effective.

    If they hired ten people to spend a month going on forums and saying OMG BUY THIS GAME ITS AWESOME they will get more sales out of it than from paying for pre-sale banner advertisements on these same forums based websites.

     

    Wow just wow... Really? You barely see Apple commercials? Where do you live on the moon?

    About  the hired people on forum, iI guess you are free to belive everything you want.

    You may want to get a tin foil hat too, to be on the safe side, in case they are using some alien mind control system.

  • Dark_HUmarDark_HUmar Member UncommonPosts: 200

    Move along people, nothing to see here!

  • sanshi44sanshi44 Member UncommonPosts: 1,187

    Originally posted by Pivotelite

    Originally posted by Rasputin


    Originally posted by Kehdar

    So, if i'm not mistaken, you are asking why on TERA board there are people talking about TERA in a positive way?

    Am I right?

    Or did I miss something?

    I see TERA dominating the front page "Current Forum Activity" field, together with SWTOR (well

     

    , not so much anymore), D3 and  That is the pollution I am talking about, and which I don't understand, based on what I have seen. People have dumped every single clone since WoW, so hard, that they are all but ghost towns today, and they continue hyping new clones? Why? Stop and think for a second instead, maybe? 

     

     

    So you think TERA is a WoW clone? Well, you just killed your own thread.

     

    Also people talking about TERA, are all playing it, it's not hype, we've been playing it for over a damn month.  And a select few of us for several months over in Korea.

    My option after playing the open beta is Tera is a WoW clone crossed with a little darkfall mechanics, i dont beelive it worth a subscription and i dont think ill be buying it atleast while it has a sub fee. Again this is my option from what ive seen from the game i may be missing somthing. It is definetly more enjoyable than any game that came before it however i do beleive GW2 will be much more fun to play atleast for me. Ill get to find out during the beta this weekend where ill finaly get to compare the games, atm im leaning towards GW2 even though im yet to play it.

  • sanshi44sanshi44 Member UncommonPosts: 1,187

    Originally posted by rexzshadow

    Originally posted by troublmaker



    The forum marketing is really really cheap and super effective.  It's kind of like how you barely ever see Apple commercials around because Apple spends a lot of money lining the pockets of Hollywood to show their products in movies.

    Guild Wars 2 seems to have more upfront marketing with their banners everywhere.  TERA I am suspicious is doing some viral campaigning which is cheaper and largely more effective.

    If they hired ten people to spend a month going on forums and saying OMG BUY THIS GAME ITS AWESOME they will get more sales out of it than from paying for pre-sale banner advertisements on these same forums based websites.

    You mean like how GW2 fans go to EVERY other game forum telling people how much GW2 is better than that game and that game is trash? Ya Tera fans enjoying a game they like, posting on TERA forum is some how a viral campaign? Than GW2 be like super viral campaign.

    Both side are doing it, and it kinda ridiculous however can be an amusing read sometimes for some reason some people just get so worked up. I simply put it this way try both games while there in beta and play the ones you like, simple as that.

  • Creslin321Creslin321 Member Posts: 5,359

    Originally posted by Rasputin

    I just came from Youtube videos to see what all the fuss is about, and what do I see?

    A frikking new WoW-clone, monsters waiting around to get killed, that magically don't see you, even if you are almost within reaching distance, because of some magic aggro range, that has no correlation with what we as humans understand as reality.

    Add on top of that questing with exclamation marks (or something similar in korean or whatever asian country this is from), and it is goodnight for this game.

    Thank you for your attention, and if you are a TERA spammer, then please stop. There is nothing new here.

    I'm just going to comment on the highlighted section.

    Isn't this something that's common to just about every MMORPG and even many SPRPGs?  I mean, I know it may seem unrealistic, but think about the alternative.  Imagine if monsters aggro'd the second that they are in visual distance of a player.

    Given that this will be an MMORPG, there will be lots of players in a zone.  Because of this there must be lots of monsters.  The result would be chaos.  The first player to walk into visual range of a monster camp would be swarmed.  It would be ridiculous.

    And really, an aggro radius in and of itself isn't horrible unrealistic.  Ever watch the nature channel when a pack of lions is just laying around 200m away from a herd of wildebeests and neither animal seems to care?

    Anyway, I think it would be possible to make a game with more realistic monster aggro but it would change the entire design of the game.  You couldn't really have that open world idea where you explore a world populated with monsters.  Instead, monsters would have to dynamically spawn in appropriate proportions so as not to overwhelm the players.  Personally, I think it would feel more artificial.

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  • RasputinRasputin Member UncommonPosts: 602

    Originally posted by Creslin321

    I mean, I know it may seem unrealistic, but think about the alternative.  Imagine if monsters aggro'd the second that they are in visual distance of a player.

    Given that this will be an MMORPG, there will be lots of players in a zone.  Because of this there must be lots of monsters.  The result would be chaos.  The first player to walk into visual range of a monster camp would be swarmed.  It would be ridiculous.

    And really, an aggro radius in and of itself isn't horrible unrealistic.  Ever watch the nature channel when a pack of lions is just laying around 200m away from a herd of wildebeests and neither animal seems to care?

    Anyway, I think it would be possible to make a game with more realistic monster aggro but it would change the entire design of the game.  You couldn't really have that open world idea where you explore a world populated with monsters.  Instead, monsters would have to dynamically spawn in appropriate proportions so as not to overwhelm the players.  Personally, I think it would feel more artificial.

    Ya, imagine that. Something new, a completely new design.

  • GanatharGanathar Member Posts: 143

    Why do TERA fans post that they like this game in it's forum? It's absurd I tell you!!! The TERA forums have become polluted with "TERA is wonderful" threads while they should be full of negative threads that try to convince people that the game will suck.

  • BartDaCatBartDaCat Member UncommonPosts: 813

    Originally posted by Ganathar

    Why do TERA fans post that they like this game in it's forum? It's absurd I tell you!!! The TERA forums have become polluted with "TERA is wonderful" threads while they should be full of negative threads that try to convince people that the game will suck.

    QUIET, YOU!  OR I'LL SIC MY PINK UNICORN POSTS ON YOUR GUILD WARS THREAD AGAIN!

    (Hover and click "Pink Unicorn Posts" to view)

     

  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,319

    Is this yet another "why do people like things I don't like" thread? Thought so.

     

    I still say it should be a banning offence.

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by sanshi44

    Both side are doing it, and it kinda ridiculous however can be an amusing read sometimes for some reason some people just get so worked up. I simply put it this way try both games while there in beta and play the ones you like, simple as that.

    In the end thats always the best idea, which is why i loved how EME did their CBT and OBT was so nice because it was seriously SO easy to get in to the betas to try out the game. Sadly GW2 doesn't want to do that and i don't feel like throwing in 60 non-refundable dollar in so i'm waiting for guildies to play and tell me.

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