I do know that the 6800 series by nVidia is a better chipset than ATI's X800 series chipset, and that the 6800Ultra will out perfrom the X800 Pro.
You could go cheaper if you want the X800 Pro though as the Toxic series by Sapphire is nearly $500 US. Sapphire makes an X800 Pro card for $379 US at Newegg.. I would recommend going with the 6800 Ultra though as it is a much better performing card than the X800Pro.
Yeah, I agree Gunblade. ATI's 9600 and 9800 line are really good(getting a little dated for today's games...still good cards though), but they missed the boat on the X800 and other Xxxx series cards. I'm not saying they are "bad" cards as they offer good performance, but the nVidia 6800 and 6600 chipsets are superior. In addition, the X800 cards are expensive.
I have a quick question about RAM. I have a board that has 3 DIMMs, 2 are in a dual channel setup. Can I use just the dual channel, or does the single need to be filled first? A friend told me that wasthe case, but I have my doubts.
Depending on what motherboard you have, there is an optimum configuration setup based on what type of memory and how many sticks of it you will be using. It is not true that you have to fill the single channel DIMM slot to use the dual channel DIMM slot, your friend is mistaken. Refer to your board's manual which should have a table to configure your memory set up. If not refer to the manufacturer's web site.
Do you have two sticks of ram you are wanting to install and run in dual channel??? If so, what board are you using???
I've stepped on an problem which i doubt anyone here can fix. Its about my internet, whenever i have a virus-scanner on my computer my internet doesnt work. when i remove it it does. i cant update it, the virusscan at that moment because internet is away. so i remove it. ( i do some online virus scans but get no result ) I think i have some virus. there's also 'Generic Host Process for Win32 Services' i have to let have internet connection before i can browse.
Originally posted by Asmodeus_ I've stepped on an problem which i doubt anyone here can fix. Its about my internet, whenever i have a virus-scanner on my computer my internet doesnt work. when i remove it it does. i cant update it, the virusscan at that moment because internet is away. so i remove it. ( i do some online virus scans but get no result ) I think i have some virus. there's also 'Generic Host Process for Win32 Services' i have to let have internet connection before i can browse. can some1 help me?..
what virus scanner are you using, and what internet browser?
dude, just try veloz .com and do that virus scan, or do Nortaon, ad-aware, anything, one of them is bound to work. Trust me, if it doesnt, just PM or something and whatever and ill help u, im good with comps and stuff, and my friend has got this genius friend who builds his own insane comps. Good Luck
ForeverDawn (name on AO)
Its a philosophy can u figure it out?
"Understand that friends come and go, but with a precious few you should hold on. Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography and lifestyle, because the older you get, the more you need the people who knew you when you were young."
Originally posted by Asmodeus_ I've stepped on an problem which i doubt anyone here can fix. Its about my internet, whenever i have a virus-scanner on my computer my internet doesnt work. when i remove it it does. i cant update it, the virusscan at that moment because internet is away. so i remove it. ( i do some online virus scans but get no result ) I think i have some virus. there's also 'Generic Host Process for Win32 Services' i have to let have internet connection before i can browse. can some1 help me?..
what virus scanner are you using, and what internet browser?
Depends on what kind of motherboard you have. Does it have PCI slots (white short ones), AGP slot (short brown one), or PCI Express (long black one)? Also how much are you looking to spend?
intel inside pentium 4 proccesor, BenQ extreamly high resloution 19'' inch plasma flat screen monitor, Windows: XP very good High-speed internet. USB 2.5 and 3 USB jacks in the front nVidia GeForce 5900 its a Hp pavilion a450n designed for games 145 GB hard drive (lots of room) lots of ram.
its so awsome like this.. never fails me when trying to play any game. i can play ffxi super high resolution and have fast and great gameplay.
And for the record, Dell makes some pretty badass computers. Their warranty is also awesome. Their tech support blows. It's outsourced to india, and I have trouble understanding their accents most of the time, and they don't know what the fuck they're talking about when I can understand them.
Anyways, you're ignorant. Dell does rock, you just pay for it.
----------------------------- Listen Asmodeeus, seven years ago, Ultima Online didn't even have those pathetic "quests" that you refer to or those "professions" of ninja, samurai, necromancer, and paladin. Nor did it have any of the neon crap, or bug mounts. It didn't even have any "combat moves." You turned on attack and jousted with simplistic swings. It was a better game then. if you can't guess why then just uninstall the thing and move along. - Crabby
Originally posted by sbenix OMG DELL COMPUTERS SUCK MAN
Dell computers don't suck. While they may not use the best parts always and can't compare to a custom built pc or one you build yourself, they certainly don't suck. If I couldn't build my own or afford a custom built pc, I would choose Dell over Gateway, HP, Compaq, EMachines, Sony and the like. Dell systems have good warranties and perform most pc tasks adequately.
Since I've built my own though, I can never go back to Dell, HP/Compaq or any other such pc manufacturer.
I agree whole heartedly wolf. My first PC ever was a Dell and it served me very well for the tasks I needed it for. Also the customer service I recieved was awesome to say the least. I had a guy stay on the phone with me for hours trying to solve a problem I was having. He never sounded annoyed eithier.
I too wouldn't go back after building my computer. It's just a much more rewarding experience to do it yourself.
to be honest....dell and gateways are for people who have money and for people who dont know too much about computers...and thats kinda it
a computer part is a computer part...
the only thing i really dont like about pre-made systems is the integrated sound/video card situation sold by most companies; alot of my friends who really dont know about computers get that junk and soon realize they need to spend another $200 or more for a video card or their sound is all fucked up cuz they dont have a "real" soundcard...its a good learning process
i have a gateway from '01....1gig of rambus^^ just upgraded my video card from a geforce2 to a geforce4 ti(i'd rather spend my $200 dollars on bitches and blunts), just got an awesome deal from best buy- 120gig maxtor hd for $90 with a $60 rebate(i dont like rebates either), i just bought a $30 dollar surround sound from walmart...
its like getting on the net first....you had aol or whatever and now you know about broadband and you realize you dont need fluff.
Originally posted by RabidWerWolf I do know that the 6800 series by nVidia is a better chipset than ATI's X800 series chipset, and that the 6800Ultra will out perfrom the X800 Pro.You could go cheaper if you want the X800 Pro though as the Toxic series by Sapphire is nearly $500 US. Sapphire makes an X800 Pro card for $379 US at Newegg.. I would recommend going with the 6800 Ultra though as it is a much better performing card than the X800Pro.
The 6800s are better than the X800s in terms of Speed but they require more power for things like its 6 LED blue lights. Don't get me wrong, I think the LEDs are pimping fo' shizzy but a lot of people need PSUs in the 430-500 range to run it. Plus, the 6800 ultra GT 256 DDR3 is 100 more dollars than the X800XT. Wait, is that correct? I may have the platinum edition mixed up with the XT.
"Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"
"When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman
looking to get a laptop to use for gaming, but also something that will last me through college and i guess my main question is . . . if i get a laptop with an AMD64 will the release of 64 bit operating systems, programs, and other such things make up for the lack of clock speed as far as other-than-gaming programs go?
Originally posted by stone-seraph looking to get a laptop to use for gaming, but also something that will last me through college and i guess my main question is . . . if i get a laptop with an AMD64 will the release of 64 bit operating systems, programs, and other such things make up for the lack of clock speed as far as other-than-gaming programs go?
The big thing you gain by 64 bit is the ability to pack in more memory. As motherboard bios catch up, 64 bit addressing allows you to stuff upto 15 GB ram into a computer. As you know 15 gb ram will cost you a fortune anyway, so this is mainly to improve systems running serious servers, Workstations and simulation models. The average joe would probably do well at this time to stick to 32bit as many boards take up to 3gb ram which is more than enough for any game and will still cost you 380 bucks or more. If you are running a 32bit OS, ie Winxp Home, I don't think you are gaining much. If I were you I'd probably stick with a P4 mobile processor, but good luck with your hunt.
Originally posted by stone-seraph looking to get a laptop to use for gaming, but also something that will last me through college and i guess my main question is . . . if i get a laptop with an AMD64 will the release of 64 bit operating systems, programs, and other such things make up for the lack of clock speed as far as other-than-gaming programs go?
It is a misnomer that just because a cpu has a faster clock frequency it is faster. The architecture of the cpu as well as it's instruction set also play a key role in the performance of the cpu. That is why an AMD socket 754 Athlon64 3000+ running at 2.0ghz or an socket939 Athlon64 3000+ running at 1.8ghz is as fast or performs as well as an socket 478 Intel P4 3.0C or LGA 775 P4 530 running at 3.0ghz and so on. Both Intel and AMD are making top notch cpus right now. If you want a general purpose system and/or gaming system go with an AMD Athlon64 or FX cpu on either socket 754 or socket 939. If you are going to be doing any video work in addition to playing games though, I would go with an LGA 775 Intel P4.
Using a 64bit o/s, whether you will use Linux or the up and coming MS Longhorn product, with any 64bit cpu, whether it be the Athlon64/FX/Opteron or Intel Xeon/up and coming 64bit P4(don't know if that is what it'll be called by Intel), will tap into the x86-64 instruction set on these cpus and is supposed to be faster and more efficient in theory. Some results with 64bit beta o/s and apps have shown promising results. I agree with Tacklebury in one sense that I would wait to build a system with a 64bit cpu until the latter have of this year unless you want to go ahead and be ready for the 64bit revolution which will occur this year and really take flight in 2006. I will say that the Athlon64 and FX cpus are actually very efficient and fast with 32bit o/s and apps, but I wouldn't upgrade from a socket 478 Intel P4 3.0C or faster or a socket A AMD AthlonXP 3000+ or faster just yet.
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which one of these grapthics cards would be the "better" to get..........
Product Description Gainward PowerPack! Ultra/2600 Golden Sample - graphics adapter - GF 6800 Ultra - 256 MB
Device Type Graphics adapter
Enclosure Type Plug-in card
Interface Type AGP 8x
Graphics Processor / Vendor NVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra
RAMDAC Clock Speed 400 MHz
API Supported DirectX 9.0, OpenGL 1.4
Video Memory Installed ( Max ) 256 MB - GDDR3 SDRAM
Video Output 2048 x 1536 / 85 Hz - 32-bit colour
Memory Clock Speed 1.15 GHz
Video Output
Max Resolution (external) 2048 x 1536 / 85 Hz
Colours Max Resolution (external) 32-bit colour
and hers the other one
Product Description Sapphire Toxic X800 Pro ViVo 256mb
Graphics Engine: ATI Radeon X800 PRO
Video Memory: 256MB GDDR3
Engine Clock: 475MHz
Memory Clock: 900MHz(450MHz DDR)
RAMDAC: 400MHz
Bus Standard: AGP8X/4X/2X
Memory Interface: 256-bit DDR
Max Resolution: 2048x1536
450MHz (900MHz effective) to 520MHz (1040MHz)
i cant make up my mind from these two...so if anybody has a reason(s) to chose one over the other let me hear it.........
I do know that the 6800 series by nVidia is a better chipset than ATI's X800 series chipset, and that the 6800Ultra will out perfrom the X800 Pro.
You could go cheaper if you want the X800 Pro though as the Toxic series by Sapphire is nearly $500 US. Sapphire makes an X800 Pro card for $379 US at Newegg.. I would recommend going with the 6800 Ultra though as it is a much better performing card than the X800Pro.
thanks for the help...
well the 6800 it is ,then.................
I have a quick question about RAM. I have a board that has 3 DIMMs, 2 are in a dual channel setup. Can I use just the dual channel, or does the single need to be filled first? A friend told me that wasthe case, but I have my doubts.
Linux is free.....if your time costs nothing.
Depending on what motherboard you have, there is an optimum configuration setup based on what type of memory and how many sticks of it you will be using. It is not true that you have to fill the single channel DIMM slot to use the dual channel DIMM slot, your friend is mistaken. Refer to your board's manual which should have a table to configure your memory set up. If not refer to the manufacturer's web site.
Do you have two sticks of ram you are wanting to install and run in dual channel??? If so, what board are you using???
I have a DFI Lanparty NFII Ultra B, right now I only have 512 of RAM in the single channel slot.
Linux is free.....if your time costs nothing.
I've stepped on an problem which i doubt anyone here can fix. Its about my internet, whenever i have a virus-scanner on my computer my internet doesnt work. when i remove it it does. i cant update it, the virusscan at that moment because internet is away. so i remove it. ( i do some online virus scans but get no result ) I think i have some virus.
there's also 'Generic Host Process for Win32 Services' i have to let have internet connection before i can browse.
can some1 help me?..
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dude, just try veloz .com and do that virus scan, or do Nortaon, ad-aware, anything, one of them is bound to work. Trust me, if it doesnt, just PM or something and whatever and ill help u, im good with comps and stuff, and my friend has got this genius friend who builds his own insane comps. Good Luck
Its a philosophy can u figure it out?
"Understand that friends come and go, but with a precious few you should hold on. Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography and lifestyle, because the older you get, the more you need the people who knew you when you were young."
Have you tried to reformat your machine?
Depends on what kind of motherboard you have. Does it have PCI slots (white short ones), AGP slot (short brown one), or PCI Express (long black one)? Also how much are you looking to spend?
I love my computer!! i like it the way it is.
intel inside pentium 4 proccesor,
BenQ extreamly high resloution 19'' inch plasma flat screen monitor,
Windows: XP
very good High-speed internet.
USB 2.5 and 3 USB jacks in the front
nVidia GeForce 5900
its a Hp pavilion a450n
designed for games
145 GB hard drive (lots of room)
lots of ram.
its so awsome like this.. never fails me when trying to play any game. i can play ffxi super high resolution and have fast and great gameplay.
OMG DELL COMPUTERS SUCK MAN
Wow, you have USB 2.5, eh? That's pretty rockin.
And for the record, Dell makes some pretty badass computers. Their warranty is also awesome. Their tech support blows. It's outsourced to india, and I have trouble understanding their accents most of the time, and they don't know what the fuck they're talking about when I can understand them.
Anyways, you're ignorant. Dell does rock, you just pay for it.
-----------------------------
Listen Asmodeeus, seven years ago, Ultima Online didn't even have those pathetic "quests" that you refer to or those "professions" of ninja, samurai, necromancer, and paladin. Nor did it have any of the neon crap, or bug mounts. It didn't even have any "combat moves." You turned on attack and jousted with simplistic swings. It was a better game then. if you can't guess why then just uninstall the thing and move along. - Crabby
Dell computers don't suck. While they may not use the best parts always and can't compare to a custom built pc or one you build yourself, they certainly don't suck. If I couldn't build my own or afford a custom built pc, I would choose Dell over Gateway, HP, Compaq, EMachines, Sony and the like. Dell systems have good warranties and perform most pc tasks adequately.
Since I've built my own though, I can never go back to Dell, HP/Compaq or any other such pc manufacturer.
I agree whole heartedly wolf. My first PC ever was a Dell and it served me very well for the tasks I needed it for. Also the customer service I recieved was awesome to say the least. I had a guy stay on the phone with me for hours trying to solve a problem I was having. He never sounded annoyed eithier.
I too wouldn't go back after building my computer. It's just a much more rewarding experience to do it yourself.
to be honest....dell and gateways are for people who have money and for people who dont know too much about computers...and thats kinda it
a computer part is a computer part...
the only thing i really dont like about pre-made systems is the integrated sound/video card situation sold by most companies; alot of my friends who really dont know about computers get that junk and soon realize they need to spend another $200 or more for a video card or their sound is all fucked up cuz they dont have a "real" soundcard...its a good learning process
i have a gateway from '01....1gig of rambus^^ just upgraded my video card from a geforce2 to a geforce4 ti(i'd rather spend my $200 dollars on bitches and blunts), just got an awesome deal from best buy- 120gig maxtor hd for $90 with a $60 rebate(i dont like rebates either), i just bought a $30 dollar surround sound from walmart...
its like getting on the net first....you had aol or whatever and now you know about broadband and you realize you dont need fluff.
The 6800s are better than the X800s in terms of Speed but they require more power for things like its 6 LED blue lights. Don't get me wrong, I think the LEDs are pimping fo' shizzy but a lot of people need PSUs in the 430-500 range to run it. Plus, the 6800 ultra GT 256 DDR3 is 100 more dollars than the X800XT. Wait, is that correct? I may have the platinum edition mixed up with the XT.
"Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"
"When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman
looking to get a laptop to use for gaming, but also something that will last me through college and i guess my main question is . . . if i get a laptop with an AMD64 will the release of 64 bit operating systems, programs, and other such things make up for the lack of clock speed as far as other-than-gaming programs go?
Make of it what you will.
Tacklebury --}>>>
It is a misnomer that just because a cpu has a faster clock frequency it is faster. The architecture of the cpu as well as it's instruction set also play a key role in the performance of the cpu. That is why an AMD socket 754 Athlon64 3000+ running at 2.0ghz or an socket939 Athlon64 3000+ running at 1.8ghz is as fast or performs as well as an socket 478 Intel P4 3.0C or LGA 775 P4 530 running at 3.0ghz and so on. Both Intel and AMD are making top notch cpus right now. If you want a general purpose system and/or gaming system go with an AMD Athlon64 or FX cpu on either socket 754 or socket 939. If you are going to be doing any video work in addition to playing games though, I would go with an LGA 775 Intel P4.
Using a 64bit o/s, whether you will use Linux or the up and coming MS Longhorn product, with any 64bit cpu, whether it be the Athlon64/FX/Opteron or Intel Xeon/up and coming 64bit P4(don't know if that is what it'll be called by Intel), will tap into the x86-64 instruction set on these cpus and is supposed to be faster and more efficient in theory. Some results with 64bit beta o/s and apps have shown promising results. I agree with Tacklebury in one sense that I would wait to build a system with a 64bit cpu until the latter have of this year unless you want to go ahead and be ready for the 64bit revolution which will occur this year and really take flight in 2006. I will say that the Athlon64 and FX cpus are actually very efficient and fast with 32bit o/s and apps, but I wouldn't upgrade from a socket 478 Intel P4 3.0C or faster or a socket A AMD AthlonXP 3000+ or faster just yet.