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  • IggiePuffIggiePuff Member UncommonPosts: 146

    I've been hearing from a number of people pretty much all saying the same stuff. People stating how so far they are pretty displeased with GW2, and a few stating they wished they had never pre-ordered it.

    I'll be giving it a chance at some point, as other's pointed out if it's at least an ok game I won't have to worry about a monthly fee.

  • k-damagek-damage Member CommonPosts: 738

    Originally posted by Elikal

    As one who didn't get in beta I am very surprised so much skeptical and negative opinions are here. I mean, I know no MMO is perfect, but for a first weekend the roses and daisies time surely was brief! Kinda surprised and I still try to sort out which opinion is more reliable. I am quite surprised tbh.

    If you have a negative view or let down feeling, I would like to hear some substantial reasons. <.<  >.>  <.<  (No trolling please, real opinions.^^)

    Honestly, I don't know how some people can be negative about this game. Not saying "I'd expect everyone to be super positive", but negative, I just can't explain how it's possible (except for fps & lag issues).

    Either they didn't play the game extensively (emphasis on extensively), either they didn't play at all.

    I've been playing countless since 2 days, and asking for more, if I didn't have to sleep and eat. And judging how every single starting area is crowded, and every server is medium to full population, it's just that people are so much enjoying it that they don't take the time to say it on forums.

    remark to comment below : GW2 is absolutely not a themepark.

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  • Crunchy221Crunchy221 Member Posts: 489

    Originally posted by SunYam

     

    I've been hearing from a number of people pretty much all saying the same stuff. People stating how so far they are pretty displeased with GW2, and a few stating they wished they had never pre-ordered it.

    I'll be giving it a chance at some point, as other's pointed out if it's at least an ok game I won't have to worry about a monthly fee.

    Well people with unreasonable expectations are typically dissapointed.  These games are like hamburgers...sure you can put diffrent filler in, a diffrent type of bun...it all boils down to being just another hamburger in the end.  People were expecting an iron chef creation and they got a burger...people who wanted a really good burger with the exact toppings offerd will be happy.

    As far as the no sub....the game seems to be a F2P that makes you buy the box...not sure if im liking what i hear with this games cash shop...i shouldnt have to use a cash shop to buy a inventory...i hate those kind of systems.

    I see the "its in beta" spammers are out too....cant wait till launch then we can move on to spamming about "its all going to be better at endgame"

     

    Lets all be honest with ourselves here  themepark mmorpgs = themepark mmorpgs.  Can we all be realize this?  After AoC, Aion, Rift, SWTOR and the countless others i didnt list.  You are getting EQ2+ DAOC when you but a themepark.  Stop expecting something unique and rovolutionary FFS.   This community keeps doing the same thing over and over and is constantly surprised by the same results from those actions..

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860

    Originally posted by k-damage

    Originally posted by Elikal

    As one who didn't get in beta I am very surprised so much skeptical and negative opinions are here. I mean, I know no MMO is perfect, but for a first weekend the roses and daisies time surely was brief! Kinda surprised and I still try to sort out which opinion is more reliable. I am quite surprised tbh.

    If you have a negative view or let down feeling, I would like to hear some substantial reasons. <.<  >.>  <.<  (No trolling please, real opinions.^^)

    Honestly, I don't know how some people can be negative about this game. Not saying "I'd expect everyone to be super positive", but negative, I just can't explain how it's possible (except for fps & lag issues).

    Either they didn't play the game extensively (emphasis on extensively), either they didn't play at all.

    Agreed! At its current hobbling beta state I would pick this over SW:TOR or any other AAA game out. I have limited my gameplay to a couple hours each day of the beta and I have played about 6 today. I don't want to stop.

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  • tank017tank017 Member Posts: 2,192

    I think some people are crashing from the hype..

     

    they ingested it,got a great initial buzz,then realized it didnt live up to their expectations.

     

    much like ToR,AoC,Aion,Warhammer and so on and so forth.

  • QSatuQSatu Member UncommonPosts: 1,796

    If you look close enough you will see complainers are mostly the same people spending whole day screaming how dissapointed they are in GW2. how they tought it will be innovative but became a crappy korean grinder or something like that. Happens with every game.

    The game is exactly what was promised. And there isn't THAT much complaining tbh. tERA had more.

  • k-damagek-damage Member CommonPosts: 738

    Originally posted by tank017

    I think some people are crashing from the hype..

     

    they ingested it,got a great initial buzz,then realized it didnt live up to their expectations.

     

    much like ToR,AoC,Aion,Warhammer and so on and so forth.

    May I say that GW2 is very different from the TOR / AOC fiasco, as it delivers all it promised on paper. It didn't promise to change the world, but everything that you could find on the Wiki, for example, or in the manifesto, it's there.

    That's why I don't understand the "hype dellusion" argument I see all around. Everything was clear from the start, we had videos, build calculators, dev blogs, and even a Wiki with all the class skills, all the features.

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  • tank017tank017 Member Posts: 2,192

    Originally posted by k-damage

    Originally posted by tank017

    I think some people are crashing from the hype..

     

    they ingested it,got a great initial buzz,then realized it didnt live up to their expectations.

     

    much like ToR,AoC,Aion,Warhammer and so on and so forth.

    May I say that GW2 is very different from the TOR / AOC fiasco, as it delivers all it promised on paper. It didn't promise to change the world, but everything that you could find on the Wiki, for example, or in the manifesto, it's there.

    That's why I don't understand the "hype dellusion" argument I see all around. Everything was clear from the start, we had videos, build calculators, dev blogs, and even a Wiki with all the class skills, all the features.



    Thats true..

     

    My point is,  some people still develop this illusion of grandeur in their own minds that the game just isnt going to live up to

  • caremuchlesscaremuchless Member Posts: 603

    Originally posted by k-damage

     

     

    That's why I don't understand the "hype dellusion" argument I see all around. Everything was clear from the start, we had videos, build calculators, dev blogs, and even a Wiki with all the class skills, all the features.

    Yeah you're not allowed to get excited for a game or you are branded delusional.  /le sigh

     

    My game crashed and burned and I was upset so you're not allowed to get excited!!!

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  • RebelScum99RebelScum99 Member Posts: 1,090

    Originally posted by k-damage

    Originally posted by tank017

    I think some people are crashing from the hype..

     

    they ingested it,got a great initial buzz,then realized it didnt live up to their expectations.

     

    much like ToR,AoC,Aion,Warhammer and so on and so forth.

    May I say that GW2 is very different from the TOR / AOC fiasco, as it delivers all it promised on paper. It didn't promise to change the world

    Yeah, it actually did.  ArenaNet promised a revolutionary game, and the fans spent the next year running around to the forum of every single game crowing about that fact.  In a mmorpg sense, yes...they did promise to change the world and change the genre.  And many people, at least thus far, have been disappointed to find that it doesn't exactly do that.  

    Blame ArenaNet for their boasts about shaking up the status quo, and blame the fans for buying into it, figuratively and literally, without so much as testing the game out before shelling out their money.  It's going to be a good game.  It's going to be a popular game.  But it's not going to redefine the genre like ArenaNet and the sheep that worship them would have you believe.  And that's why there is so much negativity.  

  • caremuchlesscaremuchless Member Posts: 603

    Originally posted by RebelScum99

    Originally posted by k-damage

    Originally posted by tank017

    I think some people are crashing from the hype..

     

    they ingested it,got a great initial buzz,then realized it didnt live up to their expectations.

     

    much like ToR,AoC,Aion,Warhammer and so on and so forth.

    May I say that GW2 is very different from the TOR / AOC fiasco, as it delivers all it promised on paper. It didn't promise to change the world

    Yeah, it actually did.  ArenaNet promised a revolutionary game, and the fans spent the next year running around to the forum of every single game crowing about that fact.  In a mmorpg sense, yes...they did promise to change the world and change the genre.  And many people, at least thus far, have been disappointed to find that it doesn't exactly do that.  

    Blame ArenaNet for their boasts about shaking up the status quo, and blame the fans for buying into it, figuratively and literally, without so much as testing the game out before shelling out their money.  It's going to be a good game.  It's going to be a popular game.  But it's not going to redefine the genre like ArenaNet and the sheep that worship them would have you believe.  And that's why there is so much negativity.  

    I blame people that blame hype. Thats people like you.

     People who hate on the game every post, are also to blame. Thats people like you.

     

    Your post is absolutely ridiculous. 

    Blame the company for saying good things about their game...really?? You cant back up anything you claim.

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860

    Originally posted by RebelScum99

    Originally posted by k-damage

    Originally posted by tank017

    I think some people are crashing from the hype..

     

    they ingested it,got a great initial buzz,then realized it didnt live up to their expectations.

     

    much like ToR,AoC,Aion,Warhammer and so on and so forth.

    May I say that GW2 is very different from the TOR / AOC fiasco, as it delivers all it promised on paper. It didn't promise to change the world

    Yeah, it actually did.  ArenaNet promised a revolutionary game, and the fans spent the next year running around to the forum of every single game crowing about that fact.  In a mmorpg sense, yes...they did promise to change the world and change the genre.  And many people, at least thus far, have been disappointed to find that it doesn't exactly do that.  

    Blame ArenaNet for their boasts about shaking up the status quo, and blame the fans for buying into it, figuratively and literally, without so much as testing the game out before shelling out their money.  It's going to be a good game.  It's going to be a popular game.  But it's not going to redefine the genre like ArenaNet and the sheep that worship them would have you believe.  And that's why there is so much negativity.  

    Every post you have provided has been negative. 

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  • evianwaterevianwater Member UncommonPosts: 308

    This is the nature of the MMO player now. And i'm hoping now people will start to stop listening to the trash talked on here. SWTOR was universally panned by people saying GW2 was going to be better...those same people are now saying GW2 is crap.

     

    There are good things and bad things about both games. But mmo players are so damn jaded its ridiculous, they want a game thats been live for 6 years out of the box. 

     

    All I hear is "there's not enough content, pvp isn't balanced" it's ridiculous..its like they expect 6 years of content immediately at release..there's never the same amount of griping over an rpg that took about as long to develop but has less content.

  • RCP_utRCP_ut Member Posts: 263

    Negative? The game is so great ffs lol. After get a bit more involved at pve quests and get out of that starting area i found it just great. The imensity of cities is something i never saw in any other mmo and combat system is completely diferent of what we are used to, but for better.

    I know some ppl are complaining about it, i think some of them didnt even bought the game lol, others are frustated about crash issues which is compreensible, others are complaining about low fps when they are playing a CPU bounded game ( doesnt make sence ).. Ignore it cos after the beta 90% of complains reasons here are gone.

    The ones that realise that this is a beta and really are playing, are loving it :)

  • SlampigSlampig Member UncommonPosts: 2,342

    Originally posted by OldMMOGamer

    What people forget to understand is that Beta is the chance for the DEVS to stress test server loads, W v W area fights- For lag, cpu, mem tests for these fights, etc.  You cannot know all the possible bugs and or performance hits until BETA.  So since this is their first large BETA test ( I'm assuming?) this is the time for DEVS to collect data and tweak the game based on what they find through internal testing.

    Just based on my experience the next time you guys log in will probably be much better performance wise. 

    No no no... That would mean this was a beta TEST... All those pre-PURCHASES got into this sweet beta EVENT... So far, the only unanimously agreed upon thing from this EVENT is that life changing login screen...

     

    Oh yeah, and it might be  so negative because people are finding faults with the game? I know I know, but trust me, it DOES happen... Until the DVD prances across that pond behind my house and loads itself into my PC...well...

     

    Just sayin, login screen!

     

    / (Wanna borrow these rose tinted glasses?) I know it seems crazy, but wow, maybe, just MAYBE people have a legitimate bone to pick with this EVENT? Yeah, that V was actuall6y supposed to be an arrow pointing to the post beneath me...

     

    That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  • just1opinionjust1opinion Member UncommonPosts: 4,641

     

    Simple answer to the title of this thread:

    It's negative because the people who are having a blast and enjoying it (unless they're taking a break for their eyes, like me) are IN GAME and PLAYING it.  They aren't here bitching and moaning about it.  So that's why, in my opinion, it's over all so negative.  Monday I bet we'll see some more balanced reviews.

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  • RCP_utRCP_ut Member Posts: 263
    One thing i agree, i really got into this sweeet beta event and dont regret it at all :)
  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    The problem with this whole system is just that a lot of times you're just standing around like, "Oh, gee, I sure wish something would hurry up and happen so I can get this last bit of XP so I can level up!"

    Well I think you said it yourself in your Rift video first impressions, that you "would be hard pressed to play any mmo that didn't have a quest helper" . In my brief experience the content is out there in GW2 just have to look for it. Kind of refreshing not to have the hand holding guide. I like to explore and find the hidden areas (found a few in game already).  Saying that though I respect your viewpoint and preference to the quest helpers as it does give direction in helping those throughout the game. The question of direction in GW2 early levels is one a thought I've see a few people bring it up. I don't know if that is because I'm more akin old school "sought it out yourself" or if people are used to or like to be steered like cattle. At the end of the day it seems GW2 wants to tell a main story but like in your Rift vid if you have no idea what the quests are for and just happen to like the "going through the motions" phase then I don't know if your would like this game fully. I would like to add I have nothing against people who want more direction, everyone is different, but in game I had no issues in understanding side quests, main quests and events. I think it is good to flesh out these differences.

    (I remembered your vid from a while back and your comments on GW2 beta reminded me :)



  • artemisentr4artemisentr4 Member UncommonPosts: 1,431

    I actually enjoyed my time in game last night. Leveled two characters to around lvl 6 in two different zones. I had no problems with performence, other than having what seemed like hundreds of players all beating on a boss inside a mine. I couldn't tell where my player was and had a hard time even seeing the boss. Just the red name, so I just pounded my keys over and over till the boss died.

     

    The heart quests are basic, but get the job done, and an event would pop all the time in the areas, so it was fun. I actually had a hard time in an area late last night when a large number of mods started to pop all around me and I died quickly. No one else was around and the mobs quickly spread out and took over a small area of the map.

     

    Overall, it was what I expected the game to be. It was different and fun IMO. A nice change of pace. And the DE's on overdrive made sence for the amount of players in the beta. I expect the DE's to be different with less players after launch. But if not, it is still a good way to change up the standard themepark questing.

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  • RizelStarRizelStar Member UncommonPosts: 2,773

    Originally posted by SuperXero89

    Originally posted by Amjoco

    Originally posted by ELE3551

    Yeah I'm on a quad core with a  460gtx and its like butter. I'm upwards of 40-60 fps and havent seen it drop below 20 without 50 odd people around me raining hell.

    I found the exp scale to be quite good too. Not too short, not too long.

    I have the same setup as you and running sweet. Especially this morning. I have 2 GTX 460s sli but had to shut one down because it wasn't sli friendly. This morning I was getting around 40 -50 fps...I even did some recording and was still running pretty well. 

    Because if it's running well for you, it's running well for everyone, and if it's not running well for everyone, *covers head in the sand* betabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabetabeta

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  • NeoZcar2NeoZcar2 Member Posts: 136

    The truth is there is not much negativity about this game. The streamers are raving how great it is, the reviews from players in game are all about how great it is, many of the blogs about the game are fair and balanced and state how the game is defintely worth the money they spent.... 

     

    The negativity if you look closely is coming form the same 20 or so people who have been bashing GW2 for the last 6 months... Just click on their names and go read their former posts. Almost everyone I have personally talked to in game and on live streams has told me the same thing. "I am gonna be playing this game for a long long time." 

     

    We know the game is not perfect. We know its still months away from release. We also know now that there has been absolutely ZERO Hype about this game. Hype by definition is absurd or exorbitant outlandish claims made to artificially inflate the popularity of a product. Everything that was claimed to exsist within GW2 is there and so far none of their claims are missing as we experienced in SW:TOR, AoC, Aion, Warhammer, Diablo 3 etc.....

  • CetraCetra Member UncommonPosts: 359

    Originally posted by Elikal

    As one who didn't get in beta I am very surprised so much skeptical and negative opinions are here. I mean, I know no MMO is perfect, but for a first weekend the roses and daisies time surely was brief! Kinda surprised and I still try to sort out which opinion is more reliable. I am quite surprised tbh.

    If you have a negative view or let down feeling, I would like to hear some substantial reasons. <.<  >.>  <.<  (No trolling please, real opinions.^^)

    ignore them. The game is good. Everyone is busy playing the game, making the best out of the 2days++ of beta.

    Only silly haters who dont know a good MMO when they see one will cry a river in the internet.

  • Stimos8Stimos8 Member UncommonPosts: 163

    Hang on a minute, the game is bad... Beta has to do with lag/ bugs blah blah... But that does not mean shitty graphics/ art style, bulkiness in movement and same old worse quests, no "dynamic and innovative" quests like "promised". Any of those things you cant fix because its already in the beta stage, so yeah it is bad, if you want to play a real game, thats not even in the same league its that much better, play TERA.

    End of story GW 2 = Bad, that may be a game you feel like playing on the side lines, if your bored and there is ABSOLUTELY nothing to do.

  • NeutorNeutor Member Posts: 101

    You really need to try the game for yourself...I personally am level 20 now and have tried everything besides the 5v5 pvp and to me it is BY FAR the BEST MMO I have ever playedj...and I have played allot!

    No game will please everyone thats for certain but this game is everything I have ever wanted in a game thus far...and the Mist is AMAZINGLY fun; that is from someone that has always avoided PvP.

    Again, do yourself a favor and try the game yourself...make up your own mind

    To me, it is simply the most fun I have ever had in an MMO...and the reason you see negatives here...from all 4 people, because the other 200,000 are so caught up in the game they can't take the time to post here....ONE MORE DAY, then I have no idea what I'm going to do until the next BWE...no way I can go back to WoW or ToR after this!!!

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  • Ambros123Ambros123 Member Posts: 877

    Originally posted by Stimos8

    Hang on a minute, the game is bad... Beta has to do with lag/ bugs blah blah... But that does not mean shitty graphics/ art style, bulkiness in movement and same old worse quests, no "dynamic and innovative" quests like "promised". Any of those things you cant fix because its already in the beta stage, so yeah it is bad, if you want to play a real game, thats not even in the same league its that much better, play TERA.

    End of story GW 2 = Bad, that may be a game you feel like playing on the side lines, if your bored and there is ABSOLUTELY nothing to do.



    No fucking shit there's lag, all Beta's have lag and with the massive anticipation of GW2 if you expect no lag then your and idiot.

    Shitty graphics?  Righhhhht, try not to lie so blatently.

    Have you experiance 15 or over lvl DEs?  ANet said that beginning DEs will be simplistic which most can't seem to figure out.

    lol Tera a real game?  Where there are posts all over trashing it as fail?

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