Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
Holy Moly super "kill 10x wolves" grind until eternity...
gessekai332
Member UncommonPosts: 861
OK let me say this first. I tried SUPER hard to like this game. I know its an asian mmorpg so i had a feeling of what i was getting into. My first mmorpg was ragnarok online and I played lineage 2 when it first came out and aion for about a year. Seeing that PvP is utterly broken in this game at least until max level, i decided to just concentrate on PvE for now.
So the first thing i was made to do in the starter island at lvl 1 was kill 10x trees or whatever. Fine. the combat system is interesting so i can just focus on enjoying that, plus the world and npc designs are pretty cool.
LVL 10: continue on doing kill 10x mobs quests. Nothing really else to do in the game, seriously. found out crafting is useless, the armor/loot drops are super boring, skills are almost exactly the same as my character in Aion, and the world has nothing to explore since its just a place where quest mobs spawn, nothing more. OK whatever, i will get to fight BAMs soon and my first dungeon when im lvl 20.
LVL 20: Nice!! get to fight BAMs now. theyre pretty big and cool and have interesting attack patterns. I do some kill 10x BAMs quest with my party to gain a level then do my first dungeon which is pretty much standard fare as mmorpgs go, nothing more nothing less. I start soloing BAMs for the next couple of levels mixed in with doing the standard "kill 10x normal mobs" quest grind.
LVL 26: Already sick of BAMs because they start giving crap exp for the amount of effort you have to put in to kill them. Much faster to just do the "kill 10x wolves" quest grind for the main and side quests. Tried soloing BAMs that was fun for maybe 1 level. Fought probably 5 different kind of BAMs they all have different attack patterns but its already so boring now. Equipment drops still are garbage and unexciting. Nothing else to do in the game except quest grind for garbage items and PK noobs in the starter town.
I am super disappointed in this game, it honestly is a step back from modern mmorpgs both eastern and western. If there is a game i could directly compare this to it would be Aion, and that game is like 5 yrs old and had a ton more content that this game when it first came out. This game is really a one-trick pony- all it had going was its combat system and that too isnt that novel if youve played other online action games like vindictus before. This game really is an empty shell of a game that currently has no real content in both the leveling phase and the endgame parts of the game. So disappointing. it would be borderline ok if this game was F2P but it is a box fee+subscription based which is just utter BS. See you guys in D3/GW2/Secret World.
Most memorable games: AoC(Tryanny PvP), RIFT, GW, GW2, Ragnarok Online, Aion, FFXI, FFXIV, Secret World, League of Legends (Silver II rank)
Comments
I have a question if you don't mind.
What exactly do you think you will be doing in D3/GW2/Secret World? Yeah I thought so.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6CyqGJHTjes
Thats what you will be doing in GW2 so I wouldn't ask lol.
But for D3 , yeah quests won't be much better.
in closed beta for TSW and quests are a TON better than what you find in TERA.. combat is subjective and depends what yuo enjoy more.. i like having more choices in my class skills and roles/builds, TSW offers a lot more choices as you can see in the dev videos for the skill wheel or just play it tommorow. Although I prefer the look of TERA but I'm more of an anime person..
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
I'm sorry, but having a story TOLD to me is hella boring. Nothing about that was dynamic, but static and scripted.
D3 is essentially a much more dumbed down version of Diablo 2 with WoW-type oversimplified polygon models with low-res textures in a massively MORE linear gameplay system than was in Diablo 2. Boring to say the least, and not up to par with 2012 releases.
The Secret World is still in beta, but I can tell you from what I've experienced it's nothing better than SWTOR pretty much. I can't go into more detail until NDA drops
!
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Agreed.
So good luck with GW2. I pre-ordered GW2, played beta, and I regreted spending money on this rubbish game. In contrast, I pre-ordered TERA, played beta, and I'm very happy with it. No regrets whatsoever. I'm very happy to pay 15/month for a quality game. I won't play GW2 even for free - just waist of time.
If u think GW2 dynamic events are not dynamics... well.... u should search here in mmorpg.com for a thread called something like "how dynamic events work" after watch one or two videos there u will change ur mind... unless u are blind =] give it a try !!
...aaaaaaaaaaand this is the part they try to convince you GW2 is the second coming of some mythological and/or theological figurehead that will remind you how GW2 is the best invention since slice bread.....
Don't get offended. Someone asked a question and all I did was answer it. The explanation was accurate and shows a much more indepth "questing" system than what you will find in TERA. Nothing more, nothing less.
Not really ofr now we are just saying that the quest system is nothing like others mmo out there.
Right about GW 2 but wrong about TSW.
TSW and GW 2 manage to do something different from the norm with there quests.
Tera is still good combat wise.
GW2 and TSW do things different, yes kill x and collect x but it's more so options, it's unfortunate for those that hate on those game, since if you experience them, you'd find yourself lying.
Also is there a way to make a game or quest without scripts?
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Then my appologies about my mistake on TSW. Haven't had as much experience with it as I have D3, TERA and GW2 .
OP didn't just say the quests were boring he also said that the loot is boring. Is the loot specific to the type of mob you kill? Are there rare spawns which drop loot specific to the mob, BAM's drop better loot I assume? Not sure if TERA has those things or not, the animation lock drove me to uninstall after an hour.
I think OP is being a bit of a wuss with the title of this thread. I've not heard that TERA takes a long to lvl, so not sure why he would use the word "grind".
Some people may not like the dynamic events in guild wars 2 but at least applaud them for trying something different while other games don't dare to do such a thing.
The quests are grindy because most of them involve killing X of Y. This isn't a big secret, and hasn't been from the start. My suggestion: Group up with people as much as possible. You can kill BAMs, farm dungeons, and do main storyline quests pretty much to level cap if you can find yourself a good group of people to level with.
The game has a lot of old-school MMO flair to it, where the best stuff you accomplish is by grouping with people. That's obviously a problem for some. To me, it's a good thing, and what a lot of MMOs are missing these days.
You know, even you are "scripted" somehow, as a human , right? Cars, engines , are scripted too! The world is "scripted" too on some parts! Oh yes, movies are scripted too , did you know that? And also they do TOLD you a story, do you find that boring too?
Every game on this planet is scripted. So you better stop playing games if you don't like a story-writer-game-developer to told you a story, or if you don't want a script-game-developer to script for you the entire game.
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
I don't know what you're looking for, but the premise of dynamic events is that they're based on the player's interaction. Should the player succeed in the event's set goals, another event will be triggered. Should they fail, a different event will be triggered. It's just that in all the videos I've seen so far the player always succeeds, so I haven't seen what would happen otherwise.
Geez guys there was a discussion about this starting about 2 days ago. This could or should be locked. It is just another argument about grinding which has already been covered.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
WRONG! On so many levels. After tomorrow, I will be able to defend my point with examples from TSW. D3, ok yeah, but that's the nature of that game and it's NOT an MMORPG. Not sure why you included that. GW2, rofl, the combat is more tactical then Tera and questing isn't hub to hub, it's free form and flows with the world and exploration is ten times a factor. Tera is like MMO for babies in comparison.
OP is right though, Tera could have just given one long massive epic quest from level 1 to 60 and said kill XXXX of each creature per zone, here's a piece or 2 of gear for doing that thanks, now move to next zone and kill XXXXX. Why even have quest hubs, just have a massive clump of mobs from zone to zone, a la Dynasty Warriors where you just go off on creatures spamming attack buttons. The game is THAT simple.
You couldn't be more wrong on that, but it's your loss if you want to be narrow minded & ignorant.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/3811455085
Read that and inform yourself. If you still think D3 is 'dumbed down', then you're either not smart enough to understand why it isn't, or you're just in complete denial.
Came early in this thread. Normally doesn't start until about page 3.
i plan to actually care about the story, play with new different kinds of skill systems, explore a game world thats not just a glorified mob spawning area, play new types of classes, hunt for items that are actually somewhat interesting, engage in meaningful pvp, undergo quests that have different kinds of twists to them other than "kill 10x wolves" over and over and over.
just because you kill computer npcs in a game to level up doesnt make it the same in every other game. i've been killing computer ai monsters to level up since final fantasy on nintendo. It doesnt make it the same kind of experience as playing skyrim on pc in 2012. at some point you need to "graduate" to the next level of complexity and sophistication. Except for the combat and graphics, TERA is literally no more advanced than lineage 2, and even that has large scale siege battles.
Most memorable games: AoC(Tryanny PvP), RIFT, GW, GW2, Ragnarok Online, Aion, FFXI, FFXIV, Secret World, League of Legends (Silver II rank)
Yeah, Tera's weak point is the leveling/quests. Its the biggest reason that held me back from getting the game immediately. That being said, I still feel that the combat system is the best one I've seen in an MMO. A lot of their focus seems end game, just wish they had more to the journey, at least more options for the players to go about leveling with.
Nooooooooo??!! Seriously?? I would have never guessed it...
+1 Well said.