I think 50% of the people are just happy that the game is buy to play. Also giving the game more of a pass due to the lack of real money investment with no sub.
That's not true at all, the game offers much more than sub-based MMOs and if any other one "deserves" a sub, GW2 "deserves" an equal (if not higher) amount. Arenanet chose a better way to finanse the game, others will soon follow.
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
Just wait till it comes out and all the fanboys turn on the game when they get bored after a month or two.
And then, you can simply stop playing it and come back whenever you want and keep playing it. This isn't a sub based game. I will not be rushing through it, trying to "get my moneys worth". That is the difference, I feel like I can enjoy myself and the world more.
I also don't get why people care so much about the "hype". Hype is nothing but setting people up for dissapointment. I have played the game, and enjoy it. That is all that matters. You are going to be much better off going into something with low expectations than fantasizing about how amazing it is going to be ... you are going to be sorely let down.
Enjoy it for what it is, and move on. Who cares if it only lasts a month or 2. Not worse than any other stupid ass MMO released in the past 10 years. At least I won't be X dollars deep in subscription fees, and I can come back and play it for FREE at any time, starting a new character, or whatever.
It also has the accessibility to come back and try out patches/new content for FREE ... which is a big deal. I see populations staying relatively high, for longer, simply due to the fact you don't have to pay a subscription.
It is pretty apparent you have no idea what you are talking about. I am not here to explain it or convince people anymore. Take the trolling somewhere else. If you can't read or find information on this game for yourself, you are beyond help anyways.
Go watch some videos on YouTube, or for God's sake, read something about the game.
+1
I don't know if he made the post "on purpose" or from seer ignorance but it is clear how these kind of posts attract the best trolls
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
GW2 offers better quality gameplay + colossal content without sub fee. It is the best MMO that i played for a long long time. And i have played and paid money for every single game on top of the list.
It's hard to talk about GW2 without making a longwinded and boring post highlighting the differences. While it does not re-invent the wheel it certainly improved the aerodynamics. For all the solid features that people list there are 5 conveniences that go unnoticed.
Material + Bank Storage account wide
Send materials to bank from bag
Near instant PVP from a menu
Insta-Bird-Mail
Selling goods to trading post from bag
Secret areas
Jumping puzzles
While these features aren't exactly groundbreaking they provide so much convenience or fun for the player. Also I don't feel like there are artificial timesinks in place to extend the gameplay experience. While there is a clear path for leveling it is not outweighed by the sheer enjoyment of exploration or pleasant surprise of seeing a new event in an old area.
Many have already pointed out the downscaling system but you really have to appreciate that even if they make new low level content that content is still viable/new to max level veterans. More content for everyone is a win imo.
Getting too long winded. And....stop.
Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play?
Been reading the forums and see a tremendous ammount of hype for this game. What is it everybody are so excited about?
Is it the PVP? If that is the case why not go for a shooter?
I cant say that the lore or environemnt appeals to me. I mean running arund like a cat with a bears head with horns? I have read that it does not have much of PVE (some for sure, but its not regarded as it strengths)
It may be the same thing that put me off Diablo 2 and made me exited for SWTOR.
So back to the PVP, is that the main strength? Because I can relate to that eventhough it is not my thing Or is it "gameplay" like Diablo 2?
1. What are people excited about? That varies from person to person. What I am excited about is a game where combat is more than "stand in one spot and spam a rotation"; PvP that relies more on teamwork than on having a fotm build; gameplay that allows you to play with friends on any server you want any time you want; grouping mechanics where everyone is equally responsible for damage, support,a nd control; and a big, open world that feels alive. Add to it that GW2 has no sub, a balanced cash shop, and a unique art design unlike any MMO I've ever played, and I'm hooked.
2. Why not a shooter? MOST (note that word) shooters are stagnant to me. CTF, DM, King of the Hill...dumb pointless crap. Planetside has been the only online shooter in years that I felt captured the spirit of real combat. I look forward to PS2 for the same reasons. In the mean time, my pvp interests are all for wvw. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPZHsfa6gEs sums it up. The announcer kinda goes all dramatic, but the video overall still captures what I want in a pvp game. Something more tactical and fun.
3. About PvE you read....more or less wrong. If your definition of PvE is "endgame raiding" or an escalating gear treadmill, then it has NO PvE. However, what it has is a world where I can go to any zone my level or lower and gain useful xp and loot.My gf wants to roll a new toon? Instead of running around powerlevelling her and being bored for hours, we can play together with my high level and her new toon, and both get something out of it. combat is MUCH more challenging than the standard wow fare, and dungeons are HARD. Normal modes are easily on par with a WoW hard mode dungeon. Then you get to "explorable mode", which is even tougher. Oh, and every dungeon has multiple paths through it once they are unlocked, with different monsters.
It really is overhyped, a lot even. While I will play it I personally don't consider the game more than average. Its main advantage is the weakness of the competition these days.
I do hope that once people will have got to play for more than one weekend a month they will realize and admit how shallow and repeatitive this game actually is.
Basing the opinion of a game on the limited play experiences people have is like basing your judgement of Age of Conan on Tortage. I'm damn certain that eventually people will wake up and admit that while the game is ok it definitely is NOT even remotely close to being as special as so many want to make it sound.
I think the people who are not exited about GW2 are mostly people who are NOT 100% sick and tired of the same questing lame mechanic that virtually every MMO employs. I been playing MMO's since 2004 wow has had its time and i want something new or i am done with the genre forever and i know i am not the only person who feels this way.
It's dumb to argue "hype" when both GW1 and GW2 will be in the top 5 on MMORPG.com game list. Which is rated by players. Also check out metacritic as well as all other sites dealing with GW.
People are hating on it because of the hype without even trying it for themselves..best mmo i have played post 2004.
Yes because it is completely impossible to have played it and not liked it, right?
I've played all the events except the one yesterday, I thought it would grow on me; it didn't. I hate almost everything about it, I think other than not having sub fees it is a devolution in the genre and is the ultimate arcade MMO. That is just my opinion, no one cares and it doesn't matter, but you can be sure that there are people who feel the same.
To the OP, all new games have hype. First read up more on it, or watch videos, if you like what you see, buy it. Don't make threads on a site clearly filled with GW2 lovers, asking them what is so good about it, while also criticising it. What do you hope to acheive?
Personally, I'm excited about GW2 because it fixes all the things I'd grown bored with from WoW and Rift:
No more running from quest hub to quest hub, being led along a track and doing the same static quests every time.
No more reading about how the bandits are attacking the farm when they're really just pacing back and forth in hte nearby field. Now the bandits do actually attack the farm, and will take it over if players don't do something about it.
No more kill stealing, mob tagging, etc... when other players show up I'm actually happy to see them and help them.
Adding the ability to actively dodge makes the combat a lot more fun.
The MMO genre needs to move forward and GW2 is a good first step.
Also, I believe we're past the stage where we can call this "hype" now. We've had 2 beta weekends and 2 stress tests with hundreds of thousands of players and even with all of that exposure the game is living up to expectations and is meeting the claims ArenaNet said it would. Personally, I haven't had this much fun in an MMO since I first set foot in WoW many years ago.
Personally, I'm excited about GW2 because it fixes all the things I'd grown bored with from WoW and Rift:
No more running from quest hub to quest hub, being led along a track and doing the same static quests every time.
No more reading about how the bandits are attacking the farm when they're really just pacing back and forth in hte nearby field. Now the bandits do actually attack the farm, and will take it over if players don't do something about it.
No more kill stealing, mob tagging, etc... when other players show up I'm actually happy to see them and help them.
Adding the ability to actively dodge makes the combat a lot more fun.
The MMO genre needs to move forward and GW2 is a good first step.
Also, I believe we're past the stage where we can call this "hype" now. We've had 2 beta weekends and 2 stress tests with hundreds of thousands of players and even with all of that exposure the game is living up to expectations and is meeting the claims ArenaNet said it would. Personally, I haven't had this much fun in an MMO since I first set foot in WoW many years ago.
This. Not to mention the fact that there is no subscription fee. GW2 is already successful and I don't forsee the mass exodus typically associated with new releases because of their financial model. The new success benchmarks will be measured in expansions & sales.
People are hating on it because of the hype without even trying it for themselves..best mmo i have played post 2004.
Yes because it is completely impossible to have played it and not liked it, right?
I've played all the events except the one yesterday, I thought it would grow on me; it didn't. I hate almost everything about it, I think other than not having sub fees it is a devolution in the genre and is the ultimate arcade MMO. That is just my opinion, no one cares and it doesn't matter, but you can be sure that there are people who feel the same.
To the OP, all new games have hype. First read up more on it, or watch videos, if you like what you see, buy it. Don't make threads on a site clearly filled with GW2 lovers, asking them what is so good about it, while also criticising it. What do you hope to acheive?
if you have played it and dont like it that's fine, try re-reading my post. the OP has not played the game, yet claims to know what the game is and isn't. Also the OP is from norway and is a massive TSW fanboy.
Personally, I'm excited about GW2 because it fixes all the things I'd grown bored with from WoW and Rift:
No more running from quest hub to quest hub, being led along a track and doing the same static quests every time.
No more reading about how the bandits are attacking the farm when they're really just pacing back and forth in hte nearby field. Now the bandits do actually attack the farm, and will take it over if players don't do something about it.
No more kill stealing, mob tagging, etc... when other players show up I'm actually happy to see them and help them.
Adding the ability to actively dodge makes the combat a lot more fun.
The MMO genre needs to move forward and GW2 is a good first step.
Also, I believe we're past the stage where we can call this "hype" now. We've had 2 beta weekends and 2 stress tests with hundreds of thousands of players and even with all of that exposure the game is living up to expectations and is meeting the claims ArenaNet said it would. Personally, I haven't had this much fun in an MMO since I first set foot in WoW many years ago.
totally agree especially with # 2 i believe one of the dev's from arenanet refereed to this as the game 'is lying to you', we have all done those quests where they say you must stop a group of bad guys from raiding some village and its a kill X amount of guys type quest , the game doesn't even know or care if I am there and yet i am supposed to imagine somethere really terrible will happen and be imerssed in the saving of the village.............this is just bad writing , bad storytelling and yet a ton of MMO's get away with it.
well in GW2 the bad guys really do burn the village to the ground or destroy the structure and often times you get a entire new set of events based on if the group succeeds or fails.
I dont like themeparks or F2P but I can understand why alot of themepark players would be hyped for GW2. I hope the game turns out to be a winner for them.
It isn't hype. Learn what hype actually is, please. I'm not going to make a big post about this yet again, but, put simply, you are wrong, and you don't know what hype is.
Also, you make it clear that you know nothing at all about the game itself. You don't get the excitement (again, not hype; for hype look to EA) because you don't know what makes the game so great. People who have played the game know why it is so great.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
People are hating on it because of the hype without even trying it for themselves..best mmo i have played post 2004.
Yes because it is completely impossible to have played it and not liked it, right?
I've played all the events except the one yesterday, I thought it would grow on me; it didn't. I hate almost everything about it, I think other than not having sub fees it is a devolution in the genre and is the ultimate arcade MMO. That is just my opinion, no one cares and it doesn't matter, but you can be sure that there are people who feel the same.
To the OP, all new games have hype. First read up more on it, or watch videos, if you like what you see, buy it. Don't make threads on a site clearly filled with GW2 lovers, asking them what is so good about it, while also criticising it. What do you hope to acheive?
if you have played it and dont like it that's fine, try re-reading my post. the OP has not played the game, yet claims to know what the game is and isn't. Also the OP is from norway and is a massive TSW fanboy.
LOL I went back to read the OP because I didn't remember spotting anything remotely TSW fanboyish and you know what, there isn't. And at no point did the OP state to know what the game was or was not. That is why he asked questions.
Seems to be the only fanboy here is you. Grow up and realise people can like different games, have no problem playing for things they like and just because they don't have the same opinion as you doesn't make them wrong.
I dont like themeparks or F2P but I can understand why alot of themepark players would be hyped for GW2. I hope the game turns out to be a winner for them.
I can't really argue the themepark aspect....but, GW2 is not F2P. It is B2P. You still have to buy the game in order to play it. Once you buy it, you won't have to spend another dime if you don't want to.
And yes, I think the game will be a winner. In fact, in my book it already is.
You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???
OP you're seriously misinformed about PvE. 25 huge explorable zones with hidden content and events that change, eight dungeons each with different modes and paths, five playable races each with their own starting areas and unique storylines, content that never becomes redundant because you out leveled it, eight professions with unique playstyles and huge cities with mini games and social hubs. GW2 is kicking off with far more PvE content than a hell of a lot of other recent releases have.
Been reading the forums and see a tremendous ammount of hype for this game. What is it everybody are so excited about?
Is it the PVP? If that is the case why not go for a shooter?
I cant say that the lore or environemnt appeals to me. I mean running arund like a cat with a bears head with horns? I have read that it does not have much of PVE (some for sure, but its not regarded as it strengths)
It may be the same thing that put me off Diablo 2 and made me exited for SWTOR.
So back to the PVP, is that the main strength? Because I can relate to that eventhough it is not my thing Or is it "gameplay" like Diablo 2?
If it dosen't appeal, if you don't get it, if it isn't your taste...
Don't sweat it.
You don't have to like it.
You don't have to play it.
There are other games for you.
Asking someone to explain why it appeals to their taste and not yours is kinda dumb.
As for the 'not much PvE', based on reading what some random internet dude (who probably hasn't even played it either)... Heres a clue-
Comments threads are not a good place to get knowledge.
People are hating on it because of the hype without even trying it for themselves..best mmo i have played post 2004.
Yes because it is completely impossible to have played it and not liked it, right?
I've played all the events except the one yesterday, I thought it would grow on me; it didn't. I hate almost everything about it, I think other than not having sub fees it is a devolution in the genre and is the ultimate arcade MMO. That is just my opinion, no one cares and it doesn't matter, but you can be sure that there are people who feel the same.
To the OP, all new games have hype. First read up more on it, or watch videos, if you like what you see, buy it. Don't make threads on a site clearly filled with GW2 lovers, asking them what is so good about it, while also criticising it. What do you hope to acheive?
if you have played it and dont like it that's fine, try re-reading my post. the OP has not played the game, yet claims to know what the game is and isn't. Also the OP is from norway and is a massive TSW fanboy.
LOL I went back to read the OP because I didn't remember spotting anything remotely TSW fanboyish and you know what, there isn't. And at no point did the OP state to know what the game was or was not. That is why he asked questions.
Seems to be the only fanboy here is you. Grow up and realise people can like different games, have no problem playing for things they like and just because they don't have the same opinion as you doesn't make them wrong.
Some friendly advice, grow up.
"I cant say that the lore or environemnt appeals to me. I mean running arund like a cat with a bears head with horns? I have read that it does not have much of PVE (some for sure, but its not regarded as it strengths)"
Sounds like he thinks he knows what the game is all about....
And a short look through his post history shows he is definitely a fan of TSW.
Not supporting any specific argument, just reminding you of the facts....
You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???
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That's not true at all, the game offers much more than sub-based MMOs and if any other one "deserves" a sub, GW2 "deserves" an equal (if not higher) amount. Arenanet chose a better way to finanse the game, others will soon follow.
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
And then, you can simply stop playing it and come back whenever you want and keep playing it. This isn't a sub based game. I will not be rushing through it, trying to "get my moneys worth". That is the difference, I feel like I can enjoy myself and the world more.
I also don't get why people care so much about the "hype". Hype is nothing but setting people up for dissapointment. I have played the game, and enjoy it. That is all that matters. You are going to be much better off going into something with low expectations than fantasizing about how amazing it is going to be ... you are going to be sorely let down.
Enjoy it for what it is, and move on. Who cares if it only lasts a month or 2. Not worse than any other stupid ass MMO released in the past 10 years. At least I won't be X dollars deep in subscription fees, and I can come back and play it for FREE at any time, starting a new character, or whatever.
It also has the accessibility to come back and try out patches/new content for FREE ... which is a big deal. I see populations staying relatively high, for longer, simply due to the fact you don't have to pay a subscription.
This is the future of gaming, so deal with it.
+1
I don't know if he made the post "on purpose" or from seer ignorance but it is clear how these kind of posts attract the best trolls
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
GW2 offers better quality gameplay + colossal content without sub fee. It is the best MMO that i played for a long long time. And i have played and paid money for every single game on top of the list.
Please don't bring that stupid TSW vs GW2 crap here. You know for a fact TSW is pretty hyped as well.
People are hating on it because of the hype without even trying it for themselves..best mmo i have played post 2004.
It's hard to talk about GW2 without making a longwinded and boring post highlighting the differences. While it does not re-invent the wheel it certainly improved the aerodynamics. For all the solid features that people list there are 5 conveniences that go unnoticed.
Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play?
1. What are people excited about? That varies from person to person. What I am excited about is a game where combat is more than "stand in one spot and spam a rotation"; PvP that relies more on teamwork than on having a fotm build; gameplay that allows you to play with friends on any server you want any time you want; grouping mechanics where everyone is equally responsible for damage, support,a nd control; and a big, open world that feels alive. Add to it that GW2 has no sub, a balanced cash shop, and a unique art design unlike any MMO I've ever played, and I'm hooked.
2. Why not a shooter? MOST (note that word) shooters are stagnant to me. CTF, DM, King of the Hill...dumb pointless crap. Planetside has been the only online shooter in years that I felt captured the spirit of real combat. I look forward to PS2 for the same reasons. In the mean time, my pvp interests are all for wvw. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPZHsfa6gEs sums it up. The announcer kinda goes all dramatic, but the video overall still captures what I want in a pvp game. Something more tactical and fun.
3. About PvE you read....more or less wrong. If your definition of PvE is "endgame raiding" or an escalating gear treadmill, then it has NO PvE. However, what it has is a world where I can go to any zone my level or lower and gain useful xp and loot.My gf wants to roll a new toon? Instead of running around powerlevelling her and being bored for hours, we can play together with my high level and her new toon, and both get something out of it. combat is MUCH more challenging than the standard wow fare, and dungeons are HARD. Normal modes are easily on par with a WoW hard mode dungeon. Then you get to "explorable mode", which is even tougher. Oh, and every dungeon has multiple paths through it once they are unlocked, with different monsters.
It really is overhyped, a lot even. While I will play it I personally don't consider the game more than average. Its main advantage is the weakness of the competition these days.
I do hope that once people will have got to play for more than one weekend a month they will realize and admit how shallow and repeatitive this game actually is.
Basing the opinion of a game on the limited play experiences people have is like basing your judgement of Age of Conan on Tortage. I'm damn certain that eventually people will wake up and admit that while the game is ok it definitely is NOT even remotely close to being as special as so many want to make it sound.
I think the people who are not exited about GW2 are mostly people who are NOT 100% sick and tired of the same questing lame mechanic that virtually every MMO employs. I been playing MMO's since 2004 wow has had its time and i want something new or i am done with the genre forever and i know i am not the only person who feels this way.
It's dumb to argue "hype" when both GW1 and GW2 will be in the top 5 on MMORPG.com game list. Which is rated by players. Also check out metacritic as well as all other sites dealing with GW.
A proven track record is not hype.
Yes because it is completely impossible to have played it and not liked it, right?
I've played all the events except the one yesterday, I thought it would grow on me; it didn't. I hate almost everything about it, I think other than not having sub fees it is a devolution in the genre and is the ultimate arcade MMO. That is just my opinion, no one cares and it doesn't matter, but you can be sure that there are people who feel the same.
To the OP, all new games have hype. First read up more on it, or watch videos, if you like what you see, buy it. Don't make threads on a site clearly filled with GW2 lovers, asking them what is so good about it, while also criticising it. What do you hope to acheive?
Personally, I'm excited about GW2 because it fixes all the things I'd grown bored with from WoW and Rift:
This. Not to mention the fact that there is no subscription fee. GW2 is already successful and I don't forsee the mass exodus typically associated with new releases because of their financial model. The new success benchmarks will be measured in expansions & sales.
if you have played it and dont like it that's fine, try re-reading my post. the OP has not played the game, yet claims to know what the game is and isn't. Also the OP is from norway and is a massive TSW fanboy.
totally agree especially with # 2 i believe one of the dev's from arenanet refereed to this as the game 'is lying to you', we have all done those quests where they say you must stop a group of bad guys from raiding some village and its a kill X amount of guys type quest , the game doesn't even know or care if I am there and yet i am supposed to imagine somethere really terrible will happen and be imerssed in the saving of the village.............this is just bad writing , bad storytelling and yet a ton of MMO's get away with it.
well in GW2 the bad guys really do burn the village to the ground or destroy the structure and often times you get a entire new set of events based on if the group succeeds or fails.
I dont like themeparks or F2P but I can understand why alot of themepark players would be hyped for GW2. I hope the game turns out to be a winner for them.
It isn't hype. Learn what hype actually is, please. I'm not going to make a big post about this yet again, but, put simply, you are wrong, and you don't know what hype is.
Also, you make it clear that you know nothing at all about the game itself. You don't get the excitement (again, not hype; for hype look to EA) because you don't know what makes the game so great. People who have played the game know why it is so great.
"There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit."
John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman
Exactly.
Most users trying to say GW2 is over hyped don't even seem to know the definition of the word.
Parroting a buzzword they heard a bigger kid use makes them 'pro' though I guess.
LOL I went back to read the OP because I didn't remember spotting anything remotely TSW fanboyish and you know what, there isn't. And at no point did the OP state to know what the game was or was not. That is why he asked questions.
Seems to be the only fanboy here is you. Grow up and realise people can like different games, have no problem playing for things they like and just because they don't have the same opinion as you doesn't make them wrong.
Some friendly advice, grow up.
I can't really argue the themepark aspect....but, GW2 is not F2P. It is B2P. You still have to buy the game in order to play it. Once you buy it, you won't have to spend another dime if you don't want to.
And yes, I think the game will be a winner. In fact, in my book it already is.
You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???
Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!
OP you're seriously misinformed about PvE. 25 huge explorable zones with hidden content and events that change, eight dungeons each with different modes and paths, five playable races each with their own starting areas and unique storylines, content that never becomes redundant because you out leveled it, eight professions with unique playstyles and huge cities with mini games and social hubs. GW2 is kicking off with far more PvE content than a hell of a lot of other recent releases have.
If it dosen't appeal, if you don't get it, if it isn't your taste...
Don't sweat it.
You don't have to like it.
You don't have to play it.
There are other games for you.
Asking someone to explain why it appeals to their taste and not yours is kinda dumb.
As for the 'not much PvE', based on reading what some random internet dude (who probably hasn't even played it either)... Heres a clue-
Comments threads are not a good place to get knowledge.
Hyped but not overhyped. Anyway how many fookin threads are there in the TSW forum with regards to GW2 V TSW......
"I cant say that the lore or environemnt appeals to me. I mean running arund like a cat with a bears head with horns? I have read that it does not have much of PVE (some for sure, but its not regarded as it strengths)"
Sounds like he thinks he knows what the game is all about....
And a short look through his post history shows he is definitely a fan of TSW.
Not supporting any specific argument, just reminding you of the facts....
You want me to pay to play a game I already paid for???
Be afraid.....The dragons are HERE!