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Is it me or GW2 PAY 2 WIN game?
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Oh, you got me. You can get couple through personal story, true.
Uhhh??? You can buy better equipment? Isn't this an advantage?
I mean...if you don't consider anything on the AH to confer an advantage, then I just don't know what to say.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Reposted. Again, you can buy an 'advantage' sure, but not power. Can you buy slightly better equipment earlier in the game than grey trash weapons? Definitely. Are these weapons going to be better than the epics that people earn through karma, quest rewards? Nope.
Max level equipment is max level equipment - everyone can craft or buy from vendors with either karma or gold max equipment.
There is no better equipment and it is trivial to get.
What people will go after is rare skins they find good looking.
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
No it's not an advantage over anyone. You can get a boost for yourself and that's it. It won't affect anyone no matter what you say. It's like "buying" a dlc for a single player game, is that an advantage to you? Seriously
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
But since gear/weapons are level rated you would only have an advantage if you reached that level ahead of someone else.........a very trivial advantage at best.
Yes, yes it is! LOL
Sincerely,
Grimm Liberty
... and I can MAKE gear that beats anything you might get from Gems... LOL
Sincerely,
Grimm Liberty
Lol i had forgotten my profile was still with that TERA thing. FIXED. TERA now sells pay to win item called chronoscroll, or if you prefer, a purchasable item through wish you can have an advantage over other people. Left as soon as that was announced.
May the richest person win!!
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This is hillarious to see all of the differant excuses people have used to justify the cash shop.
If i purchase a million dollars worth of gold with real money but dont spend it, hows that P2W? LMAO!!!
P2W = you can not beat highend content with out useing items from cash shop."
Sorry to disturb your definition. Its just so daunting to use 'have an advantage over others through cash'. So i just use P2W at face value. I wonder what definition came first,
(1) P2W = you can not beat highend content with out useing items from cash shop."
or
(2)P2W = have an advantage over others through cash
*shrug*
Think its important to have the second definition because many of us dont play certain (2)P2W and by extension (1)P2W.
May the richest person win!!
I don't know if the game is Pay 2 Win or not, but why do people complaint about it, you have the same option that everybody else have, to earn money and to spend it on whatever you think its pay 2 win, if you choose not to spend the money cause in your opinion is not worth it, well thats your problem, but don't complaint about it.
LOL enough said
I think the point is you can by better than what you have.
I think the point related to the topic of this thread is that buying that gear will not effect OTHER players experience....thus it is not pay to win.
Ok, can we end discussion here? We all agree that GW2 is clearly P2W. Don't. Buy. Game. At all. It's pay to win. Let us who bought game to enj... suffer from P2W.
I can't get better than lvl 80 gear.
All the lvl 80 armors and weapons offer the same defense and damage.
So wherever I'm, that other guy over there that buy gold with real money, and his the same level than me, he is doing the same damage.
Not that it would be important since we aren't competing vs each other - we are in the same team, we aren't competing for mobs, drops, unique achievements or gear, spots in raids, etc.
And now I have to look what happened when he bought gold with gems -> other people got gems so that they can acquire services and other shop items without paying a cent.
That is why most people aren't bothered with the shop:
- it sells time savers, not power; (In fact you are paying to lose game time, go figure, especially cause there is nothing at the end of the leveling);
- when people trade gems for gold, people that don't want to spend real money can acquire things from the shop for free.
Actual players are exchanging different currencies, one exchanged money for in game items; other exchange in game items for in game money; other exchanged in game money for real money that can only be used in Anet CS.
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
Yes it is P2W you pay $60 one time and then you win full access for the life of game!
Playing GW2..
For WvW it's a mild form of P2W.
If 2 people play the same amount of time, someone who spends cash can:
- level slightly faster
- spend much more gold on siege engines and keep upgrade
So, technically it's P2W, but i hope that it's not game breaking.
Personally, i would like to see an extra currency only for siege engines and keep upgrades. And the xp boost should get removed entirely.
I know it's difficult to discern the different viewpoints in this thread, but I never argued that GW2 was P2W, simply because the definition of P2W is so nebulous.
My only argument is that you can spend real money to get an advantage in GW2, with advantage being defined as anything that gives you some kind of quantifiable power in any part of the game.
All I'm saying is that people arguing that the GW2 cash shop is completely innocuous and will have no effect on the game whatsoever are just as off-base as people arguing that the game is flat out pay to win.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Bingo. Which is why I remain opposed to the cash shop. I just don't like the idea of having people pay money to skip playing your game. It seems like it takes advantage of erm...less enlightened consumers.
I mean, I never thought a businessman would be able to say the following and be successful at it:
"Hey guys, here is my new game. It costs $60 initially, but the best part about it is that if you get it and find that you don't like part of it, then you can just pay extra money to skip that part!"
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Nothing is pay to win then?
May the richest person win!!
I know it is hard for some people to understand this point - in WvW you could be lvl 1 and you have lvl 80 armor and lvl 80 - period - you still have to unlock skills, etc but you are lvl 80. In GW1, I bet some people I could beat builds they put together using 3 skills (none elites either). I did it with my necro and mesmer -I knew my skills and synergies of them. It was not hard.
You can use all the RL cash you want and I think I could still beat many who think it is P2W w/o outlaying any RL cash. HOW? My understanding of the skills on my bar and how to use them.
If you don't understand that about GW2 - please don't play - you will just embarass yourself when a player like me defeats you.