don't force yourself to sit through a game you don't enjoy. you have managed to think for yourself and come to a coclusion so i don't know why you'd want people to come along and undo that. it's not to your liking, that's that.
EDIT: to the poster above, plenty features of swtor were merely touched on in video blogs and there were only beta leaks of ilum. hard mode raids were untested by beta testers like myself until three weeks from launch and they weren't tested thoroughly at all. that's why they're so buggy to this day and why mobs had placeholder names on them after the game launched(boss beast 1, etc.). also, they kept the NDA up till 4 weeks to launch and controlled tightly what was allowed ot be filmed of the beta weekends. there was not a whole lot of pvp footage, ilum footage and such shown. they demonstrated OPs themselves in a canned, 5 minute presentation. all people were really allowed ot do was quest and they didn't go into much detail with the various game systems.
I get that you want to make an informed decision and I can't fault you for that. However, one of the issues I have with threads like this is that you are not buying a house, or even a car. You are going to spend $60 on a video game. If you can't afford the occasional waste of $60, maybe you shouldn't be playing video games? Over the years, I have bought many games that I just didn't like, but hey, I didn't spend a small fortune on them and I get paid every other week so the loss won't kill me.
No I am not buying a house or a car, and 60$ is trivial, BUT. I am going to be devoting my free time to playing it. I work freelance, my free time is my most valuable asset. How I entertain myself means how refreshed I am when it comes down to business, making money.
60$ means squat, but my free time, well, that's different all together.
If you feel you have "no choice" about playing...
If "every moment of your free time" will be spent playing this game, with your wife...
And if you really don't want to play it as you seem to...
Then you were incorrect earlier... you do need marital counselling.
I mean let's face it, you are approaching playing this game like you have an upcoming multiple-root-canal dentist appointment that is going to last several months if not years.
Posting on here for strangers to give you advice on why YOU (who we don't know) should like the game? There are tons of threads on here already on why many of us like the game. There are many threads detailing the features of the game. I'm sorry but this was a really unnecessary thread. How about asking your wife why she likes it and what parts of it she thinks you might enjoy? Wouldn't that give you a much higher chance of getting the feedback you are looking for?
Don't try to like GW2 because of the hype. If you think it's worth the purchase, then get it. Just because it's hyped doesn't mean it is / is going to be a good game. Look at every other major MMO release in the last 10 years.
People said AoC, WAR, and SWTOR were all innovative, new, going to destroy WoW, and invigorate the genre. Look how those turned out. It's just pre-launch jitters, nothing to understand beyond that.
again all based on dev hype and very little actually info of how the game actually played or real player feedback.. not sure how you guys still can't differntiate between this.
Mostly because we were there. It wasn't just Dev hype. It was hyped based on the media and players who had been testing it for months. The hype was the exact same as GW2, don't kid yourself.
i have been there since merdian you have no clue what you are talking about.. every game had a select few hyping it based on closed betas which all had NDA's right up to near release. No MMO ever has had this much coverage and actual game footage prior to release and has had this much coverage for months
Lol right. GW2 is it's own little snowflake. SWTOR had a HUGE following, and they allowed people to openly test their game without a purchase, how are they doing now? Pretty much every recent MMORPG release besides GW2 has allowed people to test the game before paying for it. AoC, TERA, SWTOR, GW2 , theres no difference in the marketing. They each have their own following, same as GW2 will. Whats special about GW2? It happens to be coming out the soonest.
prior to swtor what evidence of gameplay was around? you basically had a bunch of dev videos. Up until the open stress weekend NDA was in effect so NO CB footage was released until then. Once NDA was lifted you had very small amounts of footage on the game from players providing very little information on the game overall.. How can you not see how this is differn't
People played SWTOR just as much as GW2 before release, but you can't possibly know how a game will do until it actually releases. The hype with GW2 is exactly the same.
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Trying to say there was as much footage of all the systems in place for SWTOR as there is for GW2 is just straight up lie.
We get that you don't like GW2 but you need to find something else to do other than trolling a forum for a game you don't care about.
Don't try to like GW2 because of the hype. If you think it's worth the purchase, then get it. Just because it's hyped doesn't mean it is / is going to be a good game. Look at every other major MMO release in the last 10 years.
People said AoC, WAR, and SWTOR were all innovative, new, going to destroy WoW, and invigorate the genre. Look how those turned out. It's just pre-launch jitters, nothing to understand beyond that.
again all based on dev hype and very little actually info of how the game actually played or real player feedback.. not sure how you guys still can't differntiate between this.
Mostly because we were there. It wasn't just Dev hype. It was hyped based on the media and players who had been testing it for months. The hype was the exact same as GW2, don't kid yourself.
i have been there since merdian you have no clue what you are talking about.. every game had a select few hyping it based on closed betas which all had NDA's right up to near release. No MMO ever has had this much coverage and actual game footage prior to release and has had this much coverage for months
Lol right. GW2 is it's own little snowflake. SWTOR had a HUGE following, and they allowed people to openly test their game without a purchase, how are they doing now? Pretty much every recent MMORPG release besides GW2 has allowed people to test the game before paying for it. AoC, TERA, SWTOR, GW2 , theres no difference in the marketing. They each have their own following, same as GW2 will. Whats special about GW2? It happens to be coming out the soonest.
prior to swtor what evidence of gameplay was around? you basically had a bunch of dev videos. Up until the open stress weekend NDA was in effect so NO CB footage was released until then. Once NDA was lifted you had very small amounts of footage on the game from players providing very little information on the game overall.. How can you not see how this is differn't
People played SWTOR just as much as GW2 before release, but you can't possibly know how a game will do until it actually releases. The hype with GW2 is exactly the same.
Stop trolling.
Trying to say there was as much footage of all the systems in place for SWTOR as there is for GW2 is just straight up lie.
We get that you don't like GW2 but you need to find something else to do other than trolling a forum for a game you don't care about.
I do like GW2. I pre-purchased, have played every beta weekend, and will be there for the the minute head start goes live. I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
I do like GW2. I pre-purchased, have played every beta weekend, and will be there for the the minute head start goes live. I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
and you are still missing the point completely.. but nm I give up on this point because for whatever reason you have a brick wall built in your head you are unwilling to see past on the subject.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
They have no holy trinity... yea, they actually do. They take the DPS, Tank, Healer role and rename them to Support, Control and Damage. Whether it is the classic trinity or not, it is still a trinity. I even watched a video where a developer stated the Thief class could become a tank if he wanted, Irony or just cursed to fill the classic trinity? That's directly from Rift.
No player housing? Seriously? Is what comes to mind, I would think after all the immersion they are hoping for that player housing would have been one of the first things they implemented.
PvP sounds interesting and if I do by the game it will generally be just to try out WvWvW PvP as that sounds rather interesting and maybe a throwback to my DAoC Days of playing a stealthed hunter during the castle seige waiting for a target for my spear.
In all honesty, I am trying to become interested, I really am. My goal was not to pick apart the game, but to make an informed decision on my own without having played the game. I missed the beta weekends, I know, shoot me or crucify me, or whatever.
What makes the game so appealing to the masses that would cause such a fanatical response? When I have approached people I knew about this game, I feel as if I am inquiring about religion, and we all know how well those conversatiosn go. They escalate quickly into "Hater vs. Fanboi" to them, which is when I turn and walk away, because, frankly, I am neither.
I have no reason to hate Guild Wars 2, and am trying to find a reason to want to purchase it. To make this thread a little less pointless, I will pose a question.
What makes You want to buy Guild Wars? Hopefully some of that will rub off on me.
1) Watch the videos in Aerowyns video thread at the top of the screen.
2) Actually no it doesn't have a "holy trinity". No one ever said it doesn't have a trinity, because it still does. It just doesn't have a "holy trinity". There is no tanks or healers in this game. No class can take hits from mobs like other games. While warriors are able to absorb a bit more damage than other classes, if they just stand in front of mobs and trade blows, they will die in 2-3 hits. Every class is capable of controlling a mob, damaging a mob, and supporting their teammates in different ways. It's this combination that makes GW2 a little different. You don't spend hours in chat "LF1 monk". Just grab someone and go. There are no direct heals in the game either. You are responsible for keeping yourself alive.
3) Most MMOs don't have player housing, so I don't see why this is a surprise. They will be having player housing post release when they add guild halls. No exact date on that (my assumption is the Halloween or Christmas update).
Whether you get it or don't it's up to you. It's only $60 USD, and there's no sub fee. So even if you only get 30 hours out of it, I'd say it's money well spent.
As for what makes me want to buy Guild Wars 2, I loved GW1 and when they announced GW2 and some of their planned features I instanty become excited. After playing the game, I fell in love with it and this next week is going to be extremely long. It is different than other MMOs in the way it presents the content. Most importantly, it's the most fun I've had in an MMO in a long time. To be able to work along side other players without viewing them as an annoyance is absolutely amazing. I would say GW2 actually tries to make the game seem like an MMO. It will never hurt you to fight alongside another person. It will never hurt you to group either. You will both receive full exp and loot for kills you both help either other with. There is no tagging a mob before someone else gets there. And everyone can rez. And from my experience in the game, people are willing to go out of their way to rez you (it shows up on the map). And rezing offers exp, so it will never hurt you to rez someone.
Let me put it this way: I love working alongside other people. The best fun I had was teaming up with a random person and fighting through a cave or something to get a skill point or something. And the DE can be challenging. Especially the further you progress in the game. I remember spending about 30 minutes with a group of people trying to take a point from centaurs. When we finally started communicating and organizing, we actually made progress. It was an absolute blast. I've never had so much fun dying before. (And just as anyone can tell you, I've died more times in GW2 in just the starter zone than any other game)
Thank you, this was the kind of post I was looking for. I appreciate it, honestly.
To some of the others, I am not looking for marital counseling, or trying to start a flame war. I'm being honest. I know, honesty on the interwebz, who'd have thunk it, right?
You are very welcome. Also, with level scaling, playing with friends who are already far into the game is still easy. You don't have to worry about person x being level 40 but you only level 15. Your level 40 friend can still play with you and have a challenge.
As for everyone else, this isn't a debate about SWToR or GW2. This isn't a discussion of the hype. The OP asked us why we are interested in GW2, what attracts us to GW2. If you aren't posting this, why are you posting?
I do like GW2. I pre-purchased, have played every beta weekend, and will be there for the the minute head start goes live. I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
and you are still missing the point completely.. but nm I give up on this point because for whatever reason you have a brick wall built in your head you are unwilling to see past on the subject.
The OP asked why other people like the game. I am telling him that it doesn't matter why people like the game, he needs to try it for himself. I don't see what point I am missing exactly.
I do like GW2. I pre-purchased, have played every beta weekend, and will be there for the the minute head start goes live. I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
and you are still missing the point completely.. but nm I give up on this point because for whatever reason you have a brick wall built in your head you are unwilling to see past on the subject.
The OP asked why other people like the game. I am telling him that it doesn't matter why people like the game, he needs to try it for himself. I don't see what point I am missing exactly.
not that the point about where "hype" comes from.. nevermind
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Originally posted by Jimmydean I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
this is a valid statement here. your bit about the situation being the same for swtor with beta content and NDA is a not true though. i was in CBT and you are lying with that, maybe unintentional and you got caught up trying to make your point. anyway, swtor held tight with everything until 4 weeks to launch, high level content not shown, high level pvp not shown, video blogs not very descriptive, ilum footage only through leaks, ops untested. systems like crafting and other little features only glossed over in video blogs, people didn't try those things for themselves before the game came out.
there's a big difference between having some features playable and talking about the rest until launch and having almost every feature playable for months in beta.
in any case, topic is redundant. don't bother with GW2 OP, it's not to your liking. no good reason to try and have your mind made up for you. maybe wait until a free trial and give it another go.
I do like GW2. I pre-purchased, have played every beta weekend, and will be there for the the minute head start goes live. I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
and you are still missing the point completely.. but nm I give up on this point because for whatever reason you have a brick wall built in your head you are unwilling to see past on the subject.
The OP asked why other people like the game. I am telling him that it doesn't matter why people like the game, he needs to try it for himself. I don't see what point I am missing exactly.
not that the point about where "hype" comes from.. nevermind
And you know what? For every single other MMORPG, the fans said the exact same things. We know, you love GW2. It can do no wrong. This post isn't about you, though. It's about the OP asking why people enjoy the game. I am simply telling him not to buy into the hype, it's not going to get him any further than it got people who purchased the last 100 MMORPG releases based on media and player reviews.
I get that you want to make an informed decision and I can't fault you for that. However, one of the issues I have with threads like this is that you are not buying a house, or even a car. You are going to spend $60 on a video game. If you can't afford the occasional waste of $60, maybe you shouldn't be playing video games? Over the years, I have bought many games that I just didn't like, but hey, I didn't spend a small fortune on them and I get paid every other week so the loss won't kill me.
No I am not buying a house or a car, and 60$ is trivial, BUT. I am going to be devoting my free time to playing it. I work freelance, my free time is my most valuable asset. How I entertain myself means how refreshed I am when it comes down to business, making money.
60$ means squat, but my free time, well, that's different all together.
If you feel you have "no choice" about playing...
If "every moment of your free time" will be spent playing this game, with your wife...
And if you really don't want to play it as you seem to...
Then you were incorrect earlier... you do need marital counselling.
I mean let's face it, you are approaching playing this game like you have an upcoming multiple-root-canal dentist appointment that is going to last several months if not years.
Posting on here for strangers to give you advice on why YOU (who we don't know) should like the game? There are tons of threads on here already on why many of us like the game. There are many threads detailing the features of the game. I'm sorry but this was a really unnecessary thread. How about asking your wife why she likes it and what parts of it she thinks you might enjoy? Wouldn't that give you a much higher chance of getting the feedback you are looking for?
Seriously? I mean really?
Why is it always one extreme or the other with some people?
If I'm playing a game, it's not with all of my free time.
Play this situation out in your head, just for a moment. People insist on having an open mind, so please do so.
You finish work, go out for some fun, maybe frizbee in the park, a trip to the arcade, shopping or just a nice walk with your family and then come home. Eat some dinner with the kids and then after everything is settled down, decide to have a nice drink with your wife while playing a video game for the remaining three hours of the night. We can be cooperative, laugh and have fun.
Seriously, WTF? Some people actually have real lives which involve having some pleasure in video games at some point. It's not "all or nothing".
Normally I choose not to respond to negative posts, but damn, get a clue. Some people actually have normal lives, I know, it's weird.
Posting an honest question on an MMO website is free, saves me from any impulse buying and stimulates a conversation. Win-Win. If that annoys you, too bad.
I do like GW2. I pre-purchased, have played every beta weekend, and will be there for the the minute head start goes live. I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
and you are still missing the point completely.. but nm I give up on this point because for whatever reason you have a brick wall built in your head you are unwilling to see past on the subject.
The OP asked why other people like the game. I am telling him that it doesn't matter why people like the game, he needs to try it for himself. I don't see what point I am missing exactly.
not that the point about where "hype" comes from.. nevermind
And you know what? For every single other MMORPG, the fans said the exact same things. We know, you love GW2. It can do no wrong. This post isn't about you, though. It's about the OP asking why people enjoy the game. I am simply telling him not to buy into the hype, it's not going to get him any further than it got people who purchased the last 100 MMORPG releases based on media and player reviews.
and this is the same idiotic crap people keep spewing around here.. so many people putting words in other peoples mouths it's sad.. I'm telling him you have to look where the hype comes from, what evidence is around to support it and how its presented there is a huge difference.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
I agree with many of the other selling points others have listed in this thread but, for me, the feature that stands out the most is simply the variety of things to do at any given time. I'll give you an example.
I enter a zone. I first head over to a heart on the map to do a "standard" quest. While running over to the heart a dynamic event starts right next to me and I go on a winding mission escorting a Hylek while being turned into any number of animals and fighting beasts with skills I've never seen before...quite a challenge. By the time I finish the dynamic event, I'm on the other side of the map and I happen to see a vista that I haven't yet explored. So, I have to figure out how to make it to the top of a cliff with just a few rocks and a vine or two jutting out of the side. After quite the jumping puzzle, I'm on top of cliff and am treated to an amazing view of the area...it's a GREAT sense of accomplishment. Then, I can use a waypoint to immediately go back and try that original heart that I never ended up hitting, or maybe I just go over to Hoelbrek and play some Keg Brawl (a mini-game that is very well thought out and could kill hours by itself).
So, let's now say I'm tired of questing, tired of jumping puzzles, tired of mini-games, tired of exploring...then I just jump into World Vs World and siege a keep with my guild or take over a supply camp with just a few friends. If even that gets old, I just jump into the mists and play some spvp.
Heck, sometimes I may just feel like theorycrafting builds, which I can do by getting a character to level 2 (takes about 10 minutes) and porting them to the mists. This instantly makes them level 80 with full skills / traits / armor and I can try out all kinds of different builds on random NPCs that are hanging out in the fields there.
To sum up, the sheer variety of things I can do in this game is truly unbelievable. There is something in this game for almost any playstyle. I know a number of people that love pvp and won't bother touching pve and other people that are the polar opposite. Both types of people find things they love in this game. Anyway, that's my two cents on what sets this game apart.
I do like GW2. I pre-purchased, have played every beta weekend, and will be there for the the minute head start goes live. I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
and you are still missing the point completely.. but nm I give up on this point because for whatever reason you have a brick wall built in your head you are unwilling to see past on the subject.
The OP asked why other people like the game. I am telling him that it doesn't matter why people like the game, he needs to try it for himself. I don't see what point I am missing exactly.
not that the point about where "hype" comes from.. nevermind
And you know what? For every single other MMORPG, the fans said the exact same things. We know, you love GW2. It can do no wrong. This post isn't about you, though. It's about the OP asking why people enjoy the game. I am simply telling him not to buy into the hype, it's not going to get him any further than it got people who purchased the last 100 MMORPG releases based on media and player reviews.
and this is the same idiotic crap people keep spewing around here.. so many people putting words in other peoples mouths it's sad.. I'm telling him you have to look where the hype comes from, what evidence is around to support it and how its presented there is a huge difference.
The part you highlighted, thats not me putting words in your mouth. Thats an observation from your many previous posts replying to anyone who had any sort of criticism towards GW2.
If you honestly think taking fans opinions and videos made for the media is a better way of telling if you like the game than playing it, then I think you are the one missing the point.
I do like GW2. I pre-purchased, have played every beta weekend, and will be there for the the minute head start goes live. I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
and you are still missing the point completely.. but nm I give up on this point because for whatever reason you have a brick wall built in your head you are unwilling to see past on the subject.
The OP asked why other people like the game. I am telling him that it doesn't matter why people like the game, he needs to try it for himself. I don't see what point I am missing exactly.
not that the point about where "hype" comes from.. nevermind
And you know what? For every single other MMORPG, the fans said the exact same things. We know, you love GW2. It can do no wrong. This post isn't about you, though. It's about the OP asking why people enjoy the game. I am simply telling him not to buy into the hype, it's not going to get him any further than it got people who purchased the last 100 MMORPG releases based on media and player reviews.
As oppose to all those people who think GW2 is just the same as any other MMO post 2004?
I do find it funny though that through all this where you have been trying to say that GW2 is no different you don't actually show any evidence to prove your point even though others have shown evidence to debunk your claims.
I do like GW2. I pre-purchased, have played every beta weekend, and will be there for the the minute head start goes live. I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
and you are still missing the point completely.. but nm I give up on this point because for whatever reason you have a brick wall built in your head you are unwilling to see past on the subject.
The OP asked why other people like the game. I am telling him that it doesn't matter why people like the game, he needs to try it for himself. I don't see what point I am missing exactly.
not that the point about where "hype" comes from.. nevermind
And you know what? For every single other MMORPG, the fans said the exact same things. We know, you love GW2. It can do no wrong. This post isn't about you, though. It's about the OP asking why people enjoy the game. I am simply telling him not to buy into the hype, it's not going to get him any further than it got people who purchased the last 100 MMORPG releases based on media and player reviews.
As oppose to all those people who think GW2 is just the same as any other MMO post 2004?
I do find it funny though that through all this where you have been trying to say that GW2 is no different you don't actually show any evidence to prove your point even though others have shown evidence to debunk your claims.
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I don't need to post evidence as to why playing a game is a better way to tell if you like it than reading reviews from fans or watching videos made for the media. That's just common sense.
I do like GW2. I pre-purchased, have played every beta weekend, and will be there for the the minute head start goes live. I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
and you are still missing the point completely.. but nm I give up on this point because for whatever reason you have a brick wall built in your head you are unwilling to see past on the subject.
The OP asked why other people like the game. I am telling him that it doesn't matter why people like the game, he needs to try it for himself. I don't see what point I am missing exactly.
not that the point about where "hype" comes from.. nevermind
And you know what? For every single other MMORPG, the fans said the exact same things. We know, you love GW2. It can do no wrong. This post isn't about you, though. It's about the OP asking why people enjoy the game. I am simply telling him not to buy into the hype, it's not going to get him any further than it got people who purchased the last 100 MMORPG releases based on media and player reviews.
As oppose to all those people who think GW2 is just the same as any other MMO post 2004?
I do find it funny though that through all this where you have been trying to say that GW2 is no different you don't actually show any evidence to prove your point even though others have shown evidence to debunk your claims.
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I don't need to post evidence as to why playing a game is a better way to tell if you like it than reading reviews from fans or watching videos made for the media. That's just common sense.
If you preferace negative comments about GW2 that are based solely on opinions with "Hey I bought the game too" does that somehow give the poster a pass, or add credence to their comments?
I just see this more and more, people saying "I pre-purchased GW2 and played in all the BWEs but... _______________ (insert negative comment here)".
What happened to critical analysis?
I'm still waiting for that one thread where people say "Here is what is wrong with GW2" that isn't based solely on their personal preference in games.
"Loading screens" are not "instances". Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
I do like GW2. I pre-purchased, have played every beta weekend, and will be there for the the minute head start goes live. I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
and you are still missing the point completely.. but nm I give up on this point because for whatever reason you have a brick wall built in your head you are unwilling to see past on the subject.
The OP asked why other people like the game. I am telling him that it doesn't matter why people like the game, he needs to try it for himself. I don't see what point I am missing exactly.
not that the point about where "hype" comes from.. nevermind
And you know what? For every single other MMORPG, the fans said the exact same things. We know, you love GW2. It can do no wrong. This post isn't about you, though. It's about the OP asking why people enjoy the game. I am simply telling him not to buy into the hype, it's not going to get him any further than it got people who purchased the last 100 MMORPG releases based on media and player reviews.
As oppose to all those people who think GW2 is just the same as any other MMO post 2004?
I do find it funny though that through all this where you have been trying to say that GW2 is no different you don't actually show any evidence to prove your point even though others have shown evidence to debunk your claims.
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I don't need to post evidence as to why playing a game is a better way to tell if you like it than reading reviews from fans or watching videos made for the media. That's just common sense.
*woosh*
straight over your head.
Nope, I think it went over your head. I never said GW2 is no different than other MMORPGs. I said the hype for GW2 is no different. Which no one has posted any actual facts debunking this. People are excited, it's a new game. It's to be expected.
I'm just saying taking opinions of fans who have already payed money for the game, and videos made for the media or by other fans, isn't a good idea compared to playing it yourself. I have the last 8 years worth of MMORPG releases to back up that statement, what do you have?
Like I told Aerowyn in a earlier post, I think i have played enough of this style of mmo settings for the last decade. Either I am getting to old for mmo's or I haven't found a mmo to call home since SWG PreCU. The only game that is still giving me hope is the Repopulation.
Yeah I am enjoying my time in Eve and TSW, but I think I miss a real live mmo with player housing and player events in game. It's one thing to log into a game and go pew pew and join the hamster wheel of fun, it's another thing just to log into a game and just hang out either fixing your home, dropping harvestors in key for crafting, hunting down certain mobs for materials and just chillin at the guild house or cantina with other players (sorry about the rambling here).
Anyways, I hope GW2 is something different, maybe I over looked something in the game when I was playing BWE. I guess I will find out. If not, just gonna stick with what I got and try out different games out of my comfort zone if GW2 goes bust.
Nope, I think it went over your head. I never said GW2 is no different than other MMORPGs. I said the hype for GW2 is no different. Which no one has posted any actual facts debunking this. People are excited, it's a new game. It's to be expected.
I'm just saying taking opinions of fans who have already payed money for the game, and videos made for the media or by other fans, isn't a good idea compared to playing it yourself. I have the last 8 years worth of MMORPG releases to back up that statement, what do you have?
and how you can't see that still amazes me.. yes some is similar but overall it's very differen't for many reason as already stated before
And if in the blue if true you should be able to see the difference because it's not hard to see
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
If you preferace negative comments about GW2 that are based solely on opinions with "Hey I bought the game too" does that somehow give the poster a pass, or add credence to their comments?
I just see this more and more, people saying "I pre-purchased GW2 and played in all the BWEs but... _______________ (insert negative comment here)".
What happened to critical analysis?
I'm still waiting for that one thread where people say "Here is what is wrong with GW2" that isn't based solely on their personal preference in games.
You know what's wrong with GW2? It's that the developers gave us too much accurate information about the game instead of telling us lies to get out money and then run because the game doesn't have a sub. How dare they! I want a company that is greedy to the bone and wants to take our money then send us a pile of crap instead of a well put together game and go, "oh well, you bought it, next time read the fine print"
Why is it always one extreme or the other with some people?
If I'm playing a game, it's not with all of my free time.
Play this situation out in your head, just for a moment. People insist on having an open mind, so please do so.
You finish work, go out for some fun, maybe frizbee in the park, a trip to the arcade, shopping or just a nice walk with your family and then come home. Eat some dinner with the kids and then after everything is settled down, decide to have a nice drink with your wife while playing a video game for the remaining three hours of the night. We can be cooperative, laugh and have fun.
Seriously, WTF? Some people actually have real lives which involve having some pleasure in video games at some point. It's not "all or nothing".
Normally I choose not to respond to negative posts, but damn, get a clue. Some people actually have normal lives, I know, it's weird.
Posting an honest question on an MMO website is free, saves me from any impulse buying and stimulates a conversation. Win-Win. If that annoys you, too bad.
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Because it wasn't close to "all or nothing" in my post. You have been crying and lamenting for multiple posts now about how you don't have a choice about playing, You have complained that you have been looking at threads for days yet can't find anything to like.
If you already have the attitude to "decide to have a nice drink with your wife while playing a video game for the remaining three hours of the night. We can be cooperative, laugh and have fun" then you don't need this thread at all. If that's your goal when you play GW2 it'll be damn easy to achieve...
...and there were already about a dozen easy-to-find threads on the first few pages of this forum that would've informed you of that.
A lot of people think it's a very fun game. Either you will or you won't when you play, if you play.
Getting bent out of shape when someone calls you out on your posts in this thread - trust me the issue is with you not me.
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don't force yourself to sit through a game you don't enjoy. you have managed to think for yourself and come to a coclusion so i don't know why you'd want people to come along and undo that. it's not to your liking, that's that.
EDIT: to the poster above, plenty features of swtor were merely touched on in video blogs and there were only beta leaks of ilum. hard mode raids were untested by beta testers like myself until three weeks from launch and they weren't tested thoroughly at all. that's why they're so buggy to this day and why mobs had placeholder names on them after the game launched(boss beast 1, etc.). also, they kept the NDA up till 4 weeks to launch and controlled tightly what was allowed ot be filmed of the beta weekends. there was not a whole lot of pvp footage, ilum footage and such shown. they demonstrated OPs themselves in a canned, 5 minute presentation. all people were really allowed ot do was quest and they didn't go into much detail with the various game systems.
If you feel you have "no choice" about playing...
If "every moment of your free time" will be spent playing this game, with your wife...
And if you really don't want to play it as you seem to...
Then you were incorrect earlier... you do need marital counselling.
I mean let's face it, you are approaching playing this game like you have an upcoming multiple-root-canal dentist appointment that is going to last several months if not years.
Posting on here for strangers to give you advice on why YOU (who we don't know) should like the game? There are tons of threads on here already on why many of us like the game. There are many threads detailing the features of the game. I'm sorry but this was a really unnecessary thread. How about asking your wife why she likes it and what parts of it she thinks you might enjoy? Wouldn't that give you a much higher chance of getting the feedback you are looking for?
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Trying to say there was as much footage of all the systems in place for SWTOR as there is for GW2 is just straight up lie.
We get that you don't like GW2 but you need to find something else to do other than trolling a forum for a game you don't care about.
I do like GW2. I pre-purchased, have played every beta weekend, and will be there for the the minute head start goes live. I'm just saying, there were people who have hyped every single MMORPG to date and it's no different for GW2. You need to play a game to know if you like it, don't trust others opinions.
and you are still missing the point completely.. but nm I give up on this point because for whatever reason you have a brick wall built in your head you are unwilling to see past on the subject.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
You are very welcome. Also, with level scaling, playing with friends who are already far into the game is still easy. You don't have to worry about person x being level 40 but you only level 15. Your level 40 friend can still play with you and have a challenge.
As for everyone else, this isn't a debate about SWToR or GW2. This isn't a discussion of the hype. The OP asked us why we are interested in GW2, what attracts us to GW2. If you aren't posting this, why are you posting?
OP: While this thread isn't necessarily about what attracts us to GW2, it does include posts of when people became interested in GW2 and how they did. http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/view/forums/thread/361055/When-did-you-become-interested-in-GW2.html
The OP asked why other people like the game. I am telling him that it doesn't matter why people like the game, he needs to try it for himself. I don't see what point I am missing exactly.
not that the point about where "hype" comes from.. nevermind
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
The detailed competitive explorative dungeon sold me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGuH0miLtns
Also TotalBiscuits adventures in GW2 and my personal experience in WvW and bias interest in the GW2 lore continuing from GW1.
this is a valid statement here. your bit about the situation being the same for swtor with beta content and NDA is a not true though. i was in CBT and you are lying with that, maybe unintentional and you got caught up trying to make your point. anyway, swtor held tight with everything until 4 weeks to launch, high level content not shown, high level pvp not shown, video blogs not very descriptive, ilum footage only through leaks, ops untested. systems like crafting and other little features only glossed over in video blogs, people didn't try those things for themselves before the game came out.
there's a big difference between having some features playable and talking about the rest until launch and having almost every feature playable for months in beta.
in any case, topic is redundant. don't bother with GW2 OP, it's not to your liking. no good reason to try and have your mind made up for you. maybe wait until a free trial and give it another go.
And you know what? For every single other MMORPG, the fans said the exact same things. We know, you love GW2. It can do no wrong. This post isn't about you, though. It's about the OP asking why people enjoy the game. I am simply telling him not to buy into the hype, it's not going to get him any further than it got people who purchased the last 100 MMORPG releases based on media and player reviews.
Seriously? I mean really?
Why is it always one extreme or the other with some people?
If I'm playing a game, it's not with all of my free time.
Play this situation out in your head, just for a moment. People insist on having an open mind, so please do so.
You finish work, go out for some fun, maybe frizbee in the park, a trip to the arcade, shopping or just a nice walk with your family and then come home. Eat some dinner with the kids and then after everything is settled down, decide to have a nice drink with your wife while playing a video game for the remaining three hours of the night. We can be cooperative, laugh and have fun.
Seriously, WTF? Some people actually have real lives which involve having some pleasure in video games at some point. It's not "all or nothing".
Normally I choose not to respond to negative posts, but damn, get a clue. Some people actually have normal lives, I know, it's weird.
Posting an honest question on an MMO website is free, saves me from any impulse buying and stimulates a conversation. Win-Win. If that annoys you, too bad.
and this is the same idiotic crap people keep spewing around here.. so many people putting words in other peoples mouths it's sad.. I'm telling him you have to look where the hype comes from, what evidence is around to support it and how its presented there is a huge difference.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
I agree with many of the other selling points others have listed in this thread but, for me, the feature that stands out the most is simply the variety of things to do at any given time. I'll give you an example.
I enter a zone. I first head over to a heart on the map to do a "standard" quest. While running over to the heart a dynamic event starts right next to me and I go on a winding mission escorting a Hylek while being turned into any number of animals and fighting beasts with skills I've never seen before...quite a challenge. By the time I finish the dynamic event, I'm on the other side of the map and I happen to see a vista that I haven't yet explored. So, I have to figure out how to make it to the top of a cliff with just a few rocks and a vine or two jutting out of the side. After quite the jumping puzzle, I'm on top of cliff and am treated to an amazing view of the area...it's a GREAT sense of accomplishment. Then, I can use a waypoint to immediately go back and try that original heart that I never ended up hitting, or maybe I just go over to Hoelbrek and play some Keg Brawl (a mini-game that is very well thought out and could kill hours by itself).
So, let's now say I'm tired of questing, tired of jumping puzzles, tired of mini-games, tired of exploring...then I just jump into World Vs World and siege a keep with my guild or take over a supply camp with just a few friends. If even that gets old, I just jump into the mists and play some spvp.
Heck, sometimes I may just feel like theorycrafting builds, which I can do by getting a character to level 2 (takes about 10 minutes) and porting them to the mists. This instantly makes them level 80 with full skills / traits / armor and I can try out all kinds of different builds on random NPCs that are hanging out in the fields there.
To sum up, the sheer variety of things I can do in this game is truly unbelievable. There is something in this game for almost any playstyle. I know a number of people that love pvp and won't bother touching pve and other people that are the polar opposite. Both types of people find things they love in this game. Anyway, that's my two cents on what sets this game apart.
The part you highlighted, thats not me putting words in your mouth. Thats an observation from your many previous posts replying to anyone who had any sort of criticism towards GW2.
If you honestly think taking fans opinions and videos made for the media is a better way of telling if you like the game than playing it, then I think you are the one missing the point.
As oppose to all those people who think GW2 is just the same as any other MMO post 2004?
I do find it funny though that through all this where you have been trying to say that GW2 is no different you don't actually show any evidence to prove your point even though others have shown evidence to debunk your claims.
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I don't need to post evidence as to why playing a game is a better way to tell if you like it than reading reviews from fans or watching videos made for the media. That's just common sense.
*woosh*
straight over your head.
If you preferace negative comments about GW2 that are based solely on opinions with "Hey I bought the game too" does that somehow give the poster a pass, or add credence to their comments?
I just see this more and more, people saying "I pre-purchased GW2 and played in all the BWEs but... _______________ (insert negative comment here)".
What happened to critical analysis?
I'm still waiting for that one thread where people say "Here is what is wrong with GW2" that isn't based solely on their personal preference in games.
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
Nope, I think it went over your head. I never said GW2 is no different than other MMORPGs. I said the hype for GW2 is no different. Which no one has posted any actual facts debunking this. People are excited, it's a new game. It's to be expected.
I'm just saying taking opinions of fans who have already payed money for the game, and videos made for the media or by other fans, isn't a good idea compared to playing it yourself. I have the last 8 years worth of MMORPG releases to back up that statement, what do you have?
@ OP
I am almost in the same boat with you.
Like I told Aerowyn in a earlier post, I think i have played enough of this style of mmo settings for the last decade. Either I am getting to old for mmo's or I haven't found a mmo to call home since SWG PreCU. The only game that is still giving me hope is the Repopulation.
Yeah I am enjoying my time in Eve and TSW, but I think I miss a real live mmo with player housing and player events in game. It's one thing to log into a game and go pew pew and join the hamster wheel of fun, it's another thing just to log into a game and just hang out either fixing your home, dropping harvestors in key for crafting, hunting down certain mobs for materials and just chillin at the guild house or cantina with other players (sorry about the rambling here).
Anyways, I hope GW2 is something different, maybe I over looked something in the game when I was playing BWE. I guess I will find out. If not, just gonna stick with what I got and try out different games out of my comfort zone if GW2 goes bust.
and how you can't see that still amazes me.. yes some is similar but overall it's very differen't for many reason as already stated before
And if in the blue if true you should be able to see the difference because it's not hard to see
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
You know what's wrong with GW2? It's that the developers gave us too much accurate information about the game instead of telling us lies to get out money and then run because the game doesn't have a sub. How dare they! I want a company that is greedy to the bone and wants to take our money then send us a pile of crap instead of a well put together game and go, "oh well, you bought it, next time read the fine print"
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Because it wasn't close to "all or nothing" in my post. You have been crying and lamenting for multiple posts now about how you don't have a choice about playing, You have complained that you have been looking at threads for days yet can't find anything to like.
If you already have the attitude to "decide to have a nice drink with your wife while playing a video game for the remaining three hours of the night. We can be cooperative, laugh and have fun" then you don't need this thread at all. If that's your goal when you play GW2 it'll be damn easy to achieve...
...and there were already about a dozen easy-to-find threads on the first few pages of this forum that would've informed you of that.
A lot of people think it's a very fun game. Either you will or you won't when you play, if you play.
Getting bent out of shape when someone calls you out on your posts in this thread - trust me the issue is with you not me.
Have a nice day.