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I think a lot of the hate is fake...and misdirected.
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If you wanna find out who everyone is that tries to put the game out without having a clue about it, just go under the Hype (where you can place your rating) and read the comments.
You can literally make a list of these people and see how negative they are and what type of attitude they are putting in here day in, day out. ^_^
Didn't bothered to make a list but was kinda hilarious and at the same time a little bit sad to read their comments.
-"another linear fantasy mmo"
-"wow clone that does nothing new"
-"I give the game 3-4 months"
These are just a few examples there.
When I'm testing a game, I'm going to the forums, adding my preview there writing on what I experienced, what I think could be improved and what I think was good.
No matter if I like a game or not and if it's for me or not, I'm giving it a fair review and state things the way I experienced by explaining WHY I personally found good or bad so the developers themselves can look into it.
If the game doesn't interest me afterwards anymore, I'm leaving it behind and don't bother to go back and check again what was told or not, nor do I go back trying to flame the game for whatever reason cause it's unfair towards the people that like it and immature to say the least.
That's why I don't quite understand why all these people have to waste their and everyones time, posting only negative things about a game like 24/7, when they could had put this amount of time into something else that interestes them more.
If it only was "a couple", I'd agree.
sad really... your loss. The game is nothing like the few bad apples you've encountered.
Go to any youtube video about gw 2 and read the wow vs gw2 comments........ and flaming for pages there 2. I've had the same treatment on gw2 facebook page.
i think most fans of games now can be terrible and not just mmos..the entire gaming community is just pathetic if you ask me and not what games should be about.I just see gw2 as a little worse than the rest because some really do believe this game is the best thing since sliced bread....and thats not the problem at all...thats a great thing.The problem is how they react to other that question it.
so basically you are stereotyping an entire community based on a select few... seems pretty sad to me..
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
again you are stereotyping based on a tiny % of the overall community
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Keep on telling yourself it's "a couple" and "a select few", and you might believe it yourself.
I'm surprised that someone who's been living day and night on the forums the last months, have noticed so little.
Really??? ...every major news source for this game a tiny % of the community.ok, i see.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
I honestly didn't saw anyone being flamed by the community only because they were on the "fence".
Only saw it happening to people that went around posting negative things they would state as "facts", without having a clue about the game at all.
It also depends on the way one is posting you know?
Other than that the mmorpg.com community is not the whole community you will find in the game and the forumgoers won't even make one quarter of the whole GW2 community cause most people tend not to visit any forums at all.
So you can't really base everything on a forum or two as being the whole community and honestly, except of maybe 2-3 people that were very immature, I can say that everyone else was decent to great in the mmorpg.com guild wars 2 forums so far.
At least that's the experience I have made here so far.
Calling forum posters the fanbase is laughable. The great majority of fans do not post on forums. It is not some sample of the spectrum of players of the game more a concentration of a certain type of player.
The only way to have played GW2 already is to have preordered.
You say you won't play. So you didn't preordered.
Therefore you didn't play it.
But still, you're making an absolute armchair analysis about how the game will fail, and how people will cry.
Now do you realize how ridiculous you look ?
I took you as an example, to show exactly what we're talking about here, and why people are getting mad at such recurrent hate. You don't know what you're talking about, but you're still acting like an (armchair) analyst. This is what 80% of hate posts on this forum did look like during the last monthes.
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I really don't get this. Yes...this game has the biggest bunch of pricks to grace forums in some time. So what? In the whole scheme of things that is still such a small percentage of who will actually be in game. I simply don't see the point of staying away from a game because of some dicks on forums.
Why not get in the game and serve them up in PvP?
XD
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Long read but I think you'll find it worthwhile: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/360836/Guild-Wars-2-does-have-gear-progression-just-look.html
Top Tier Gear has the same "Stat Budget" but distribution is different to support different builds/playstyles.
Collecting complete "tailored" top-tier sets for all the builds you enjoy actually can be a decent grind (just hopefully in a good way). This fact is just often overlooked due to the lack of a "gear treadmill" and reduced disparity between "absolute top-tier" and "decent" gear.
Enjoy!
It would be nice if you actually READ what you respond to.
I never said that the ones on the fence got flamed. I talked about BROWSING the forums.
Try again, please.
I know people will cry because its the type of gamers we have today.Instant gratification cry babies who have never been spanked in their life.Spoiled brats who sit in class txting wanting everything in life handed to them.that is the reality of the youth of today and i can assure you..many will be in gw2.....and they are going to cry no matter what. oh and im not your example...but you can lick my cubics.
Yes you were my example, and a great one, to say so. You just assumed people would cry, because "it's like that nowadays, whatever the game". This is partly true, but you just can't make that affirmation without having played the damn game. You're being absolute in your judgement, leaving no space to other's opinions.
To sum it up for people who are having such a hard time understanding how society works :
You can criticize everything you want, anyone you want, as long as it stays civil, not absolute, and open to discussion.
I don't know, just make some friends in real life, try to debate over their tastes, whatever they are, and you'll see. It's basically Life 101.
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I could have but what's the point when it would have been completely out of context in its given state?
Praise also can be used in a way to troll in order to get people angry. I know for a fact that people I work with get flustered when someone says WoW is the best MMO ever to be created when the opposite can be said.
Just because you disagree doesn't mean it isn't any less true. I've experience more GW2 fanboism than I ever ran into with SWTOR.
As long as people clearly understand what the pitfalls of GW2 are, this time around, I think it'll be fine. However, so far people are weighing too much on GW2 to "save them".
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Oh you didn't?
I think you should read your own reply?
You typed this:
But I'm not going to play it. Because it has the worst fanbase I've ever encountered (well, maybe except Darkfall pre-launch), and I don't want anything to do with them. Browsing MMORPG.com and a few other forums isn't wise for someone on the fence - the fanatical hijacking of just about every thread in any subforum may be a huge turnoff. It was (and still is) for me.
From my understanding and based on what you wrote it looks as if the "fanatical fanbase will flame everyone that is on the fence and posts anything that might be negative".
That leads to you saying that you don't want to play the game because of the so called community that is "hijacking about every thread".
So my response were based on what I understood from your post and my response was friendly.
Unlike your response that tries to offend.
Anyway, I stated my point that from my experience in the last 8 years on these boards, I can say that people getting mostly negative responses after they posted something negative without backing it up or explaining with valid points most of the time, instead of getting "randomly attacked".
With that being said, I wish you all the best in everything you do and hope you will enjoy a other mmo that suits you more.
I have decided to buy gw2, like i have said i am not a hater of the game...just those who flame me for not thinking its the second coming of jesus.I dont know much about the game but what i have seen i like. ...and killing all the fanboys will be fun.
if i could pk them outside town i wouldbe allllll over this.
I like the way you're trying to split up the community into "us vs them". As if the people praising one game won't be bashing the next one they see. You can't honestly try to convince me, that they people on these fora love one game and won't bash other games, with the opposite being true as well - people pissing all over one game while praising their own "gem".
I'm certain that if I bothered to look through the forum, I'd find GW2 "lovers" bashing the crap out of another game. I could also easily find people bashing GW2 while worshipping, say, EVE Online or WoW.
I could continue to re-phrase myself and give more examples, but I think this would about cover it.
Eleanor Rigby.
I think we all need to give ourselves a serious slap whenever we feel the need to populate (overpopulate) or spice our posts/title with the words: Hate, hater, fanboy or fanboyism.
It is - Regardless of which side of the fence you're on: Counterproductive.
We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!!
(repeat ad infinitum)
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
First: You see so many "snarky suckerpunches" from people towards GW2 simply because the equal if not greater amount towards other non-GW2 titles is so great that no one can ever get a word in edgewise. Also, if we point out anything at ALL negative about GW2 that is obvious people blindly cover it up and ignore it. However, this always happens with new releases and people still in their "honey moon" state towards a title. Happened with Rift, Aion, TERA, SWTOR, still going on with TSW, and it'll happen with GW2.
Also, being "silent" towards obvious aspects of GW2 that people are trying to hype to "Godlike Status" only gives market leaders an incorrect image of where the market needs to go. Again, GW2 isn't a bad product, but it most certainly shouldn't be the market standard.
Second: That is currently my greatest issue on the forum right now. Seems like I can't go 5 pages on this forum without seeing a "Unlike GW2....this game does THIS horrible wrong...". Drives me absolutely up the wall, and fuels my desire to have discussions about GW2 like this one.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.